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777X & 787 Commonality?

Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:00 pm

There is one thread before on this exact topic, however it just had 3 replies, it didn't even address the question from the post about the passenger experience vs wing and cockpit design:

So..I cannot seem to find out if the newest 777 (8/9) will incorporate much of 787 technology, like lower cabin pressure and enhanced humidity and better air filters? Also, other features like the larger windows and increased percentage of composite materials. But mostly I'm curious about the aircraft I will be flying until I die!

I have flown the 787-8 a few times and this Wednesday on the 787-9 for the first time. I will be on UA from GIG to IAH, on the way here I was on the 777-2 and walked off tired. I recall my few 787 flights feeling much better, almost as if I walked from one room to another in my apartment, except it was from a 787 to jet bridge. Perhaps I was just too excited about my flight to feel the often icky feeling of getting off a long haul on a 767, A330, A340, 777 or 744 etc

What besides folding wings am I to look forward to?

Forgiveness in advance if this has been addressed elsewhere, and always, thanks!
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RE: 777X & 787 Commonality?

Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:11 pm

I think Boeing may use the 787 cockpit in the 777X, like they used a 777 cockpit in the 764. Hopefully both pilots will have a HUD.
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RE: 777X & 787 Commonality?

Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:50 pm

 
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RE: 777X & 787 Commonality?

Mon Aug 17, 2015 12:16 am

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 1):
I think Boeing may use the 787 cockpit in the 777X

Not sure that it'd be very advantageous to do so. The 787 sells and has sold perfectly well on its own. The objective here is to get more 777Xs sold.

With 1500+ original 777s to replace with 777X sales, it seems to me that it'd be far more enticing for those potential customers to not have to retrain their pilots to an all-new layout.

And while I realize many of those airlines will already have 787s in their fleet, there's no guarantee that they won't have kept their 777 pool separate from their 787 pool, which I suspect many of them will.
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RE: 777X & 787 Commonality?

Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:05 am

Ok, I won't ever be in the fight deck!

I do hope to be in a next generation business class set however. Will the 777X have 787 technology in the CABIN???

Increased cabin pressure, air filters and humidity control? Windows about 65% bigger? Electronic window dimming?

I read the link and did not see answers pertaining to my question of passenger comfort.
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RE: 777X & 787 Commonality?

Mon Aug 17, 2015 3:19 am

Quoting VC10er (Reply 4):
Increased cabin pressure, air filters and humidity control?
http://aviationweek.com/commercial-a...oeing-opts-787-cabin-altitude-777x

Quoting VC10er (Reply 4):
Windows about 65% bigger?

Yes
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777x/

Quoting VC10er (Reply 4):
Electronic window dimming?

No. Doesn't seem like it. It could very well be likely with the larger windows though.

Quoting VC10er (Reply 4):
did not see answers

Rockwell Collins does not deal with any of that stuff. They typically develop flight deck equipment.
 
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RE: 777X & 787 Commonality?

Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:45 pm

Thank you Karadion!

This thrills me to no end! I absolutely love to fly long haul and ultra-long haul. Yes, I do it for business and I am in business class. Yes, on United I will use a system-wide to upgrade to F, mostly on flights to Asia or India. Sometimes on Lufthansa when LH can accommodate the UA upgrade. (That BTW is an amazing perk for Star Alliance, more Star A partner airlines should do the same - it would be a great magnet to lure and keep premium flier who spends serious $$$ to fly)


In a few years United will have many 787's and A350's, if they installed a great BF seat it would be a quantum leap for them. I will hunt down which routes they will use either of the above, even if it has an extra leg. However I will shed a real tear when the 747's are gone. The end of travel in the nose cone
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RE: 777X & 787 Commonality?

Mon Aug 17, 2015 1:53 pm

Quoting VC10er (Reply 4):
Electronic window dimming?

Boeing is not planning to use the electro-chromatic dimmable windows from the 787. Instead, they are investigating adopting electrically controlled motorized window shades similar to those used on British Airways and business jets.
 
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RE: 777X & 787 Commonality?

Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:00 am

Quoting Stitch (Reply 7):

Do you have a source for this information? I see there's a recent article from back in April that suggests that they may use the electro-chromatic windows on the 777X.
http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...-expounds-cabin-philosophy-411235/
 
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RE: 777X & 787 Commonality?

Tue Aug 18, 2015 1:15 pm

Quoting Karadion (Reply 8):
Do you have a source for this information?

Last paragraph of http://aviationweek.com/advanced-mac.../boeing-rolls-out-777-upgrade-plan

Quote:
The aircraft maker is also preparing to offer a factory-fitted option for electrically controlled window shades, similar to the 777 system developed as an aftermarket modification by British Airways.


Said article was published about 30 days before the one you referenced, though.

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