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Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Mon Aug 17, 2015 7:48 am

Please continue the discussion here.

Previous thread:
Houston Aviation Thread - Part 1 (by IAHflyer97 Jun 12 2015 in Civil Aviation)
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:21 am

Quoted from last thread:

"HKG and PVG are the two biggest holes in Asia for IAH. Since it would probably be easier for SQ to switch SIN-DME-IAH to SIN-HKG-IAH than PVG."

HKG isn't a hole from IAH. Houston isn't a financial city nor do they have any alliance ties there. Not much of a local market nor exceptional fares.

PVG would have worked at one time and still could with a 787, but SQ cannot re route their flight through there.
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Mon Aug 17, 2015 9:34 am

Can we put IAH-HKG to rest for a while?

Here's an idea. SQ SIN-MNL-IAH. Could it be done?
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:45 pm

I don't think MNL is possible.

What about SQ doing a split?

Do IAH-DME-SIN 3ish times a week and do IAH-HKG/PVG-SIN the other days.

Surely there is enough demand at DME for less than weekly service?
 
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:49 pm

As far as F9 doing IAH-PHL, I think the loads have been pretty good.

Looks like they are matching the cheapest one-stop options on other airlines (Delta mostly).

Fares in the upper $100s lower $200s.

Randomly chose some off-peak dates in November (thu nov 5-tue nov 10).


$204 for DL via ATL
$218 for F9
$237 for a single UA non-stop
$338 for AA
$343 for the other UA non-stops
 
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Mon Aug 17, 2015 6:01 pm

Regarding SQ and the DME problems:
Maybe they could make nice with their Star Alliance partner SAS and have the plane do IAH-CPH-SIN, or even IAH-OSL-SIN. That would allow SK to drop the 73G flight to SVG for a while and allow for connections from IAH to SVG and Aberdeen. Then SK could feed some short haul intra-European flights into SQ for a connection to SIN.
Other than that, I don't really see what choices SQ has if they want to continue to service IAH other than to keep DME and hope that in 2 years either the price of oil or the political situation changes for the better.
 
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Tue Aug 18, 2015 12:26 am

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 1):
Houston isn't a financial city nor do they have any alliance ties there.

Finance is a highly fungible industry that can go anywhere. Finance is more likely to migrate to Houston than the oil and gas industry is likely to migrate to financial centers. That favors Houston, and when oil comes back, that will become pretty clear.
 
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Tue Aug 18, 2015 2:55 am

Quoting toxtethogrady (Reply 6):
Finance is more likely to migrate to Houston than the oil and gas industry is likely to migrate to financial centers

I am not disagreeing with any of your statements, but the relevance? I did not see where one of our newest Houstonians said that O&G was going to migrate to a "financial center'. I find his posts to be fairly bias free. It is not like he is the author of a certain 'air and space' blog or anything. That is an example of bias.
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Tue Aug 18, 2015 7:34 am

So if I'm not mistaken, today is the first day of regular 789 ops. I believe today starts IAH-GIG!
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:01 am

I was correct on my previous statement.

Next 789 service comes in September 24 on IAH-FRA
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:37 am

I think IF the Russian economy continues south as well as oil, the best bet would be for SQ to migrate it to another European city, not as Asian one. Take a city that, may not have high yields, but can help fill the back of the plane and let the IAHSIN market fill the front. FCO or BRU would be examples.

PVG would have been ideal, but the bilateral would be hard to overcome.

And no, I don't think HKG should be the target city.

Quoting toxtethogrady (Reply 6):

Um, no it isn't. But thanks for trying.
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Thu Aug 20, 2015 1:16 pm

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 10):
. FCO or BRU would be examples.

This would be the most likely answer IMO.
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Thu Aug 20, 2015 3:07 pm

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 10):
I think IF the Russian economy continues south as well as oil, the best bet would be for SQ to migrate it to another European city, not as Asian one. Take a city that, may not have high yields, but can help fill the back of the plane and let the IAHSIN market fill the front. FCO or BRU would be examples.

I think a better chance would be ZRH or CPH to tie into Star Alliance feeds. But I'm not sure how cosy SQ wants to get with their Star Alliance partners.

I agree PVG would be ideal, but it's not going to happen under the current rules. Plus landing slots there are getting increasingly difficult to obtain. Ask UA about that.
 
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:06 pm

Quoting IAHWorldflyer (Reply 12):
I think a better chance would be ZRH or CPH to tie into Star Alliance feeds. But I'm not sure how cosy SQ wants to get with their Star Alliance partners.

There is more demand from the Houston business community, which sells the F and J seats to BRU for example. SQ does not play so well with Star as it is.

They also have to fill the XXX-SIN demand to make the route more viable.
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:11 pm

Quoting IAHWorldflyer (Reply 12):

If SQ was Star Alliance friendly and had a habit of codesharing, I would agree 100%.

However, SQ doesn't like to co-operate with anyone really much less UA, SK , or even LX.
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:24 pm

AA Returns Mainline To ORD-IAH (by ckfred Aug 24 2015 in Civil Aviation)

So AA is bringing mainline to ORD-IAH. Now all we need is to get LAX on an A319 or 321!
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:04 am

Some IAH updates:

Terminal A Gate Reassignments

AA and US have finally co-located on A25 - A30, while NK and F9 have taken over the former US gates A17 - A19. This happened a couple of weeks ago.

Frontier used to share A30 with AA but now has A19 all to itself with Swissport as ground handler.

Spirit now is using A17 and A18 with DGS handling.

A20, a ground level gate -- really just a door opening onto the ramp, no Jetway -- was formerly used by Sun Air Express for its Piper Navajo EAS service to VCT, and is now a storage spot for GSE and carts. Also, AA and NK tend to park planes RON on the other side of the service road from A20.

A24 next door to A20 appears to be unassigned, but today around 1600 Sun Country's 73G N710SY was there, being handled by Aviation Port Services. It flew to MSY as SCX8251 and then went from there to Sheppard AFB (Wichita Falls, TX) and Laughlin Int'l AZ as SCX 8201 -- probably a military charter.

By the way, the numbering of A-South's Jetway-equipped gates jumps from A19 to A24 because a future extension of that concourse would include gates A20 - A23, adding four.

A28 does not exist, but there is a door in the concourse wall between A27 and A29 where it would be located. AA seems content with this arrangement, as A27 and A29 can handle widebodies if necessary.


United Gates at Terminal A

United's A1, A2, A7 and A8 gates on the North Concourse now regularly get UAX (Republic) E170s. No Mesa E175s at this time. (There is also a United Club, and Air Canada uses A9.)

A7 and A8 have been striped to accommodate the A319-320 and B737 models, although Mainline flights haven't been sent there yet. Previously all of UA's Terminal A gates were the province of the E135-145 only. What will happen with the United's A3 finger, now unused, is unknown to me.


Terminal C North Demolition / Expansion

This project is continuing apace. The B84 gates are completely gone and the area they occupied is now encircled by green-sheeted fences with the signage of Manhattan Construction. Within the fence, much of the concrete ramp has been demolished and removed. The old boarding lounge / bus depot for B84 is now Manhattan's site HQ with desks and cubicles in place.

A sidenote -- there is a lozenge-shaped hillock or mound that exists in the grassy place just north of this area; it is now also in process of demolition. Does anyone here know what exactly that thing is? It has been there for some time -- and there are conspiracy theories, ha-ha, not for the me to repeat here!

Gates C24 - C26 have been closed, their ramp areas separated from the service road by barriers, and the concrete is being broken up. The Jetway for C26 has been removed, but the ones for C24 and C25 remain. United had been using the old C27 spot as a staging area for UAX bags, but that complex is set to be relocated to the South Concourse ramp space that was formerly C29.

All these moves will allow the C24 - C27 concourse to be extended to the meet the new North Concourse which will be located where B84 was.

Once that project is done, demolition of C14 - C23 can begin -- the first phase of IAH's International Terminal D expansion.

Whew!

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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Wed Aug 26, 2015 6:18 am

Thanks for the great update Scottie!
 
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:36 pm

Quoting Schweigend (Reply 16):
Terminal A Gate Reassignments

AA and US have finally co-located on A25 - A30, while NK and F9 have taken over the former US gates A17 - A19. This happened a couple of weeks ago.

Frontier used to share A30 with AA but now has A19 all to itself with Swissport as ground handler.

Spirit now is using A17 and A18 with DGS handling.

A20, a ground level gate -- really just a door opening onto the ramp, no Jetway -- was formerly used by Sun Air Express for its Piper Navajo EAS service to VCT, and is now a storage spot for GSE and carts. Also, AA and NK tend to park planes RON on the other side of the service road from A20.

A24 next door to A20 appears to be unassigned, but today around 1600 Sun Country's 73G N710SY was there, being handled by Aviation Port Services. It flew to MSY as SCX8251 and then went from there to Sheppard AFB (Wichita Falls, TX) and Laughlin Int'l AZ as SCX 8201 -- probably a military charter.

By the way, the numbering of A-South's Jetway-equipped gates jumps from A19 to A24 because a future extension of that concourse would include gates A20 - A23, adding four.

A28 does not exist, but there is a door in the concourse wall between A27 and A29 where it would be located. AA seems content with this arrangement, as A27 and A29 can handle widebodies if necessary.

Thanks for the update, Scottie. So what is up with AC? I heard that they are (or soon will be) utilizing 'D', can anyone confirm or deny this rumor?
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:12 pm

Hope when the new C north is done the gates will be re numbered C1-14... There needs to be a solid number gap between C north and C south. Passengers can (AND DO!!) get confused which direction to go. C29 on the south has caused so many passengers looking for C20-26 to go wrong on a daily basis it's sad.
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:22 pm

Quoting Schweigend (Reply 16):
Terminal C North Demolition / Expansion

Here's a pic I took at the beginning of the month with a partial view of the former B84 gates.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u252/AznMadSci/Birthday%202015/Airplane/9CCBD87A-8B49-4363-91DB-10FB55F27A2F_zpsg2bw8p9j.jpg

Here's my version of an aerial view of the airport with the site cleared for C-North.

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u252/AznMadSci/Birthday%202015/Airplane/F6A5F163-3695-47F7-AB53-17DDEA5405C5_zpswardiyhf.jpg
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:12 pm

I'm confused. What's happening with the 789's?
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Thu Aug 27, 2015 5:43 pm

Quoting IAHflyer97 (Reply 21):
I'm confused. What's happening with the 789's?

As deliveries accelerate this Fall, UA will be adding them into many routes currently flown with 77E and some 763 equipment. By December, I think GIG, SCL, EZE, FRA, AMS, and NRT will be flown by 789's. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm looking forward to getting to fly this jet on several routes out of IAH!
 
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:56 pm

Quoting IAHWorldflyer (Reply 22):

As deliveries accelerate this Fall, UA will be adding them into many routes currently flown with 77E and some 763 equipment. By December, I think GIG, SCL, EZE, FRA, AMS, and NRT will be flown by 789's. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm looking forward to getting to fly this jet on several routes out of IAH!


That was the plan, but another thread says otherwise. It says they will be moving to LAX and SFO leaving us with none.
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:31 pm

Quoting IAHflyer97 (Reply 23):
That was the plan, but another thread says otherwise. It says they will be moving to LAX and SFO leaving us with none.

They can't leave those routes without an aircraft. I'm pretty sure some of those 3 class 777s are coming IAHs say.
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:33 pm

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 24):

They can't leave those routes without an aircraft. I'm pretty sure some of those 3 class 777s are coming IAHs say.


A landing EVERYONE can walk away from, is a good landing.

Any idea how long GIG will stay 789? May have to hop on the IAH-LAX flight before it leaves for a few years.
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:36 pm

Anyone have updated progress pictures of the new international terminal at HOU.

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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:34 pm

Quoting IAHflyer97 (Reply 23):
That was the plan, but another thread says otherwise. It says they will be moving to LAX and SFO leaving us with none.


When I responded to your question earlier, I had not seen that other thread.

Looks like SCL and EZE will be 789 until 26 March 2016, then transition to 763 the next day. In a way it makes sense, since South American traffic is highest during North American winter. Doesn't mean I'm not a tad disappointed however. Still, I look to have some flying on those birds come January and February, so I can enjoy it while it lasts! Though I like the 2-3-2 seating on a 763 better, I do find the 787 to be a quieter ride, and the increase in humidity is noticeable to my sinuses after a 10+ hour flight.
 
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:03 pm

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 24):
They can't leave those routes without an aircraft. I'm pretty sure some of those 3 class 777s are coming IAHs say.

Probably not the three class 777's. What routes that go back to a 777 will be a two class which I like better anyway.

Quoting IAHWorldflyer (Reply 27):
Looks like SCL and EZE will be 789 until 26 March 2016, then transition to 763 the next day. In a way it makes sense, since South American traffic is highest during North American winter. Doesn't mean I'm not a tad disappointed however. Still, I look to have some flying on those birds come January and February, so I can enjoy it while it lasts! Though I like the 2-3-2 seating on a 763 better, I do find the 787 to be a quieter ride, and the increase in humidity is noticeable to my sinuses after a 10+ hour flight.

Its too far out to determine what they will do after March.

Here is what is showing for the winter:

IAH-NRT got switched back to a 777.
IAH-GIG/AMS/SCL/FRA remain a 789.
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Thu Aug 27, 2015 11:15 pm

Just FYI there are three.. Count'em three UA 789s on the Everett flight line ATM .. 0957-59.
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:27 am

Recent news from the Air New Zealand 2015 annual results

"Luxon said Air NZ’s new Auckland-Houston and Auckland-Buenos Aires services, which kick off in December, were selling “incredibly well”, particularly in Australia."

Speculation on the NZ Aviation thread that IAH could be in for frequency increases and/or upgauge to 77W in the not too distant future

[Edited 2015-08-27 20:56:48]
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:48 am

Quoting byronicle6 (Reply 30):

Recent news from the Air New Zealand 2015 annual results

Luxon said Air NZ’s new Auckland-Houston and Auckland-Buenos Aires services, which kick off in December, were selling “incredibly well”, particularly in Australia.

Speculation on the NZ Aviation thread that IAH could be in for frequency increases and/or upgauge to 77W in the not too distant future


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Doesn't surprise me. Seemed like a perfect fit from the get go.
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:57 pm

So we have mainline returning to MEM and CLT on UA?
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:41 pm

Quoting wnflyguy (Reply 26):

Anyone have updated progress pictures of the new international terminal at HOU.

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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Sun Sep 06, 2015 11:58 pm

Quoting IAHflyer97 (Reply 32):

So we have mainline returning to MEM and CLT on UA?

Did you take the time to check the United flight schedules on December 17th and after?

12/17/2015
5:45 p.m. 9:10 p.m. Nonstop
Houston, TX, US (IAH - Intercontinental) Charlotte, NC, US (CLT) 2h 25m total
UA 814 Airbus A320

7:10 p.m. 8:40 p.m. Nonstop
Houston, TX, US (IAH - Intercontinental) Memphis, TN, US (MEM) 1h 30m total
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Tue Sep 08, 2015 5:35 pm

WestJet launches today. WS 1534 is now inbound and due in about 2 1/2 hours, anyone making tracks to IAH to get a few snaps? Like to see a few Water Cannon shots.

According to a post at IAH Spotters, the loads for the inaugural flight aren't looking so hot, 30-40 % in either direction, can anyone confirm?

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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:52 pm

Just saw Westjet fly over my place. They brought in a little 736 today  
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:43 pm

Mario Diaz and the HAA have done a great job attracting service from Asian carriers in the last couple of years. Does anyone think that IAH would be able to attract a South American carrier that would compete a bit with United's monopoly on routes to our southern neighbors? LAN could run an IAH to LIM service to tie into connections further south, or AV could serve BOG, again with connection opportunities. I suspect that traffic flows from IAH to South America are mostly generated from people in Houston doing business there, as opposed to South Americans needing to travel to Houston, since most Latin American traffic probably flows to MIA and NYC. Therefore, is there enough demand for a carrier without strong ties to IAH to enter the market?
 
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Thu Sep 10, 2015 10:44 pm

Quoting IAHflyer97 (Reply 36):


Just saw Westjet fly over my place. They brought in a little 736 today


I believe its planned as a B736 for now....
 
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:29 am

Hello fellow Houstonians (and others). Haven't gotten go out too often to spot, but did some spotting tonight.

Cargolux 747-8F, Singapore 77W, UA 787, EK A380, etc.  

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2mT7sdmZIY
 
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:53 pm

Beautiful videography, KPDX.

It's nice that a new international terminal is being built, but it is a shame there is nothing in the works for a new FIS arrivals area (lower level of terminal E). I do landside ops for HAS, and one of our main jobs is traffic control in the passenger arrival areas. FIS is a mess, as most of you know. It's the only terminal arrival area that mixes commercial and private vehicles (well, we try to separate them as best we can but people ignore the signs), curb space is insufficient and the curved approach to the curb results in people stopping at weird angles that block multiple lanes of traffic. In addition, it is the only arrival area that has large numbers of pedestrians with baggage crossing the traffic lanes (to get to parking and associated elevators).

Huge headache for us, but more importantly, for the passengers. Only good thing going for the area is the entrance to parking is right there at the entrance so you can point that out as a less-stressful option than continually circling. Amazing how many people don't want to pay $3, though.
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:40 pm

I noticed when booking some future travel that AF is down-gauging the IAH-CDG flight to an A330 this winter. Takes effect after New Year's. I don't recall, did they also use this aircraft type last winter? I thought it went from 77W to 77E last year, but I could be mistaken.
If A330 is new for the daily, I wonder if AF is taking a hit on premium demand out of IAH due to downturn in the Energy sector?
 
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:01 pm

Quoting IAHWorldflyer (Reply 41):
If A330 is new for the daily, I wonder if AF is taking a hit on premium demand out of IAH due to downturn in the Energy sector?

AF has a history of up-gauging and down-gauging IAH over the years, so I am not too surprised. Not certain, but aside from SK, which departs next month, I have heard that AF is the weakest of the European operators out of IAH, (someone will correct me if I am wrong, I am sure). No doubt the energy sector is taking a hit and as a result, Houston will feel the effects. Looks like IAH might be in for a rough ride next year .
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:23 pm

Quoting IAHWorldflyer (Reply 41):
I thought it went from 77W to 77E last year, but I could be mistaken.

Certain days of the week, even in the summer, were 77E for AF, I think those were the slower travel days.

We haven't had an A330 in years, so it will be a nice sight in the lineup at D, an A340 would be better though! 
Quoting thomasphoto60 (Reply 42):
I have heard that AF is the weakest of the European operators out of IAH

They have the Schlumberger contract, and since they just laid off thousands of employees, that there is the biggest hit to AFs premium traffic, (which is what IAH is all about). Maybe UA can pop back in to the IAH-CDG game with the 787 or 3-class 763, it would be nice to have more UA European options, and I've been kinda wanting to go back to Paris anyway lol.
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:54 pm

Quoting TWA772LR (Reply 43):
Maybe UA can pop back in to the IAH-CDG game with the 787 or 3-class 763

Maybe, but I wouldn't bet on it.
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:49 pm

For those who care about such things: At IAH the TermanaLink inside security and InterTermanal Train outside have been renamed Skyway and Subway respectively. From a passenger perspective this is a smart move.
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:54 pm

Quoting thomasphoto60 (Reply 44):
Maybe, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Yeah, not seeing it. UA doesnt gain anything by re-opening this route. If I were them, I would get rid of IAH-MUC and open IAH-BRU or IAH-ZRH instead. MUC doesnt give IAH anything that FRA doesnt and there isnt much of a local market between the two. BRU opens up Africa as does ZRH. ZRH also has a more diverse set of destinations than MUC.
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:57 pm

Quoting iahcsr (Reply 45):
For those who care about such things: At IAH the TermanaLink inside security and InterTermanal Train outside have been renamed Skyway and Subway respectively. From a passenger perspective this is a smart move.

Yeah, I noticed that last week. While nice, I still prefer.....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tommill.../14345182972/in/dateposted-public/

Perhaps a merging of the two designs
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:42 am

Quoting thomasphoto60 (Reply 47):

Quoting iahcsr (Reply 45):
For those who care about such things: At IAH the TermanaLink inside security and InterTermanal Train outside have been renamed Skyway and Subway respectively. From a passenger perspective this is a smart move.

Yeah, I noticed that last week. While nice, I still prefer.....

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tommill.../14345182972/in/dateposted-public/

Perhaps a merging of the two designs

The 'Subway' is still 1960's technology... I wonder if any study has been done on the cost/benefit of upgrading the system? It still does the job but maintaining such old equipment has to be $$$
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RE: Houston Aviation Thread - Part 2

Thu Sep 24, 2015 7:02 pm

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 46):
Yeah, not seeing it. UA doesnt gain anything by re-opening this route. If I were them, I would get rid of IAH-MUC and open IAH-BRU or IAH-ZRH instead. MUC doesnt give IAH anything that FRA doesnt and there isnt much of a local market between the two. BRU opens up Africa as does ZRH. ZRH also has a more diverse set of destinations than MUC.

I have to say I agree with you. Further, the MUC departure IIRC is around 9:20am, which makes it too early for many connections. I really dislike getting up at 3;30am in Europe to catch some 6:30am flight to MUC to connect back to IAH. For this reason, I love the late departure UA has out of FRA . I think if UA could push back the MUC departure to 10:30 or 11:00 they could pick up some additional connecting traffic for the route.

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