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Plane Door Falls On Golf Course

Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:17 pm

CBS news has reported that a door from a AA flight is found on golf course / article → http://cbsn.ws/1KwzXEO
 
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RE: Plane Door Falls On Golf Course

Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:33 pm

Would that be a case to get a drop-ball or would you need to play it as it lies?
 
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RE: Plane Door Falls On Golf Course

Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:50 pm

Should be "access panel" and not "door". It would have been much more serious had it been an actual door    And yes, some access panels have hinges and latches...
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RE: Plane Door Falls On Golf Course

Wed Aug 19, 2015 11:56 pm

Quoting LandSweetLand (Reply 1):
Would that be a case to get a drop-ball or would you need to play it as it lies?

I think AA is going to take a Mulligan on that one...   
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RE: Plane Door Falls On Golf Course

Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:17 am

Quoting LandSweetLand (Reply 1):
Would that be a case to get a drop-ball or would you need to play it as it lies?

That would be a case of go and buy a lotto ticket after your round of golf because you are lucky that that access panel did not land on your head and kill you!  
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RE: Plane Door Falls On Golf Course

Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:22 am

Did anyone else notice the panel didn't even create a divot in the grass in the article photos?



Quoting LandSweetLand (Reply 1):

Would that be a case to get a drop-ball or would you need to play it as it lies?

Wouldn't one just play through?

At the 19th hole, that panel probably grew to the size of a C-5's tail door...


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RE: Plane Door Falls On Golf Course

Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:27 am

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 5):
Did anyone else notice the panel didn't even create a divot in the grass in the article photos?

Considering it's from a 321, it's probably completely composite materials which would mean it doesn't weigh more than a couple pounds. I wouldn't expect it to careen towards earth and create a massive crater..
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RE: Plane Door Falls On Golf Course

Thu Aug 20, 2015 4:34 am

Almost an ace! Nice shot.
 
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RE: Plane Door Falls On Golf Course

Thu Aug 20, 2015 6:48 am

Quoting cabochris (Reply 7):

"Falling from the sky, twirling around in circles and land approximately 40 yards to the right of the green," he said.

Serious question, should the golfers or CBSN be moving it to get their 'story shot' or should it have been left where it landed, 40 yards away?
 
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RE: Plane Door Falls On Golf Course

Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:19 am

I think the bigger story here is the "other incident" referred to on the news clip. On Saturday another A321 at CLT took out some "runway lights" whilst attempting to land in windshear and was substantially damaged.
Do they mean the approach lights??? I haven't seen this reported anywhere.  Wow!
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RE: Plane Door Falls On Golf Course

Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:09 pm

Quoting imagoagnitio (Reply 8):
Serious question, should the golfers or CBSN be moving it to get their 'story shot' or should it have been left where it landed, 40 yards away?

I don't think it's going to hurt anything. There are laws about not touching aircraft wreckage in the USA, but I don't think this qualifies as wreckage, seeing how the incident is not an NTSB reportable accident.

The law in the US says that you can only move aircraft wreckage in order to save survivors (unless you are an NTSB investigator or FAA inspector).

I have personally picked up parts that have fallen off of aircraft, as I used to work at a small airport   Usually things like circular inspection panels that have fallen off, or the occasional screw, cotter pin, or nut...don't want those parts to cause FOD for subsequent aircraft.
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RE: Plane Door Falls On Golf Course

Thu Aug 20, 2015 8:19 pm

Quoting aviatorcraig (Reply 9):
I think the bigger story here is the "other incident" referred to on the news clip. On Saturday another A321 at CLT took out some "runway lights" whilst attempting to land in windshear and was substantially damaged.
Do they mean the approach lights??? I haven't seen this reported anywhere.  

That incident is being discussed here:

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RE: Plane Door Falls On Golf Course

Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:09 pm

I bet ground crew was going to get the open door for electric or drain pipe but there is a missing door. Ground crew may already report to pilot not to fly because of missing door. The plane must be repair as son as possible get replace new door.

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RE: Plane Door Falls On Golf Course

Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:26 pm

Quoting Q (Reply 12):
The plane must be repair as son as possible get replace new door.

I wonder if the access panel in question is on the MEL...you'd be surprised what a plane is allowed to fly without sometimes  
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RE: Plane Door Falls On Golf Course

Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:35 pm

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 4):
you are lucky that that access panel did not land on your head and kill you!

Unless it falling in a "knife edged" manner, I doubt there would be any injury--at least until it was reported to the press or lawyers!

Quoting liftsifter (Reply 6):
Considering it's from a 321, it's probably completely composite materials which would mean it doesn't weigh more than a couple pounds. I wouldn't expect it to careen towards earth and create a massive crater..


Quite sure it doesn't weigh anywhere near that much!

Quoting Q (Reply 12):
I bet ground crew was going to get the open door for electric or drain pipe but there is a missing door. Ground crew may already report to pilot not to fly because of missing door. The plane must be repair as son as possible get replace new door.

It would--or should be--reported so the arriving station doesn't take the "hit" for the damage. If anything, maintenance would probably just tape it over with high speed tape.
 
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RE: Plane Door Falls On Golf Course

Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:07 pm

"Falling from the sky, twirling around in circles and land approximately 40 yards to the right of the green."

That's pretty much how most of my golf shots end up!

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