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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:39 am

Quoting nascarnut (Reply 146):

No doubt there will be some bus ops but usually when a gate is vacated, the next departure is towed in from the layover. Saturday mornings at the moment there is something like 26 departures between 0615-1000, thats quite a lot with only 14 max airbridges, close to half those are widebodies from memory, mainly NZ at that time with LA, CZ and KE, then lots of VA, QF, JQ, NZ A320s, 737s.

1130-1500 is busy over summer most days with SQ, TG, MH, EK x3, CX, plus several NZ, QF, JQ, VA.

1630-1900 sees alot of arrivals including all the Chinese services, NZ heavies from SYD, MEL, BNE, NAN, RAR, LAN, and several narrowbodies. With 1800-2000 seeing alot of heavy departures, LAN, 3x EK, NZ to EZE, IAH, LAX, SFO, YVR plus again several narrowbodies, PR, NZ, QF, JQ, VA.

Yes they could do with more gates though last year.

Whos next? Who knows, AA have been building LAX for a while and AKL has been rumoured for a while and with SYD now set to start hopefully AKL is next. Air Asia X hopefully to. HU?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:57 am

Quoting NZ2 (Reply 148):
I just received an email from Air NZ advising that my Airpoints credit card had generated 2 free Koru lounge passes. Wouldn't they know within their data base that I am Gold elite thus don't need the free passes, saved them an email and me reading it? Anyone else received the same?

Yup, same here. I don;t mind, since my Gold status has just expired, and I have 6 passes I can still use (the rest has expired as well).

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:22 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 147):
Naturally would have thought NSN would have been the MX base for JQ or Air Centre One in AKL as they have a Dash8-100 and provide engineering maintenance on Bombardier aircraft

Air Centre One have neither a DHC-8 nor a maintenance facility. They are simply an FBO, albeit a very good one.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:38 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 46):
Does Qantas Links Q300s have ovens? by the look of http://www.qantas.com.au/travel/airl...aircraft-seat-map-dash-8/global/en they have an reasonable sized galley.

The aircraft don't have any ovens fitted. Crew meals in Sydney are preheated prior to departure and then loaded on the aircraft & this includes Q400's.

Quoting 777ER (Reply 73):
Quoting PA515 (Reply 67):

Those three 77Ws with the small door was certainly a stupid idea. Don't know how VA will ever sell those ones!

I've never understood this decision which obviously makes the aircraft less attractive should the leasing company attempt to release or sell the aircraft.

Quoting 777ER (Reply 142):
On this mornings Tv3's Paul Henry, the CEO of Hawkes Bay Airport was interviewed about JQ. The CEO confirmed the JQ Q300 MX is currently planned to be done in Australia but there are talks currently happening with JQ to have the Q300 MX done in Hawkes Bay

That's a long flight for a Q300 to attend a scheduled maintenance check.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:45 am

Quoting NZ2 (Reply 148):

I just received an email from Air NZ advising that my Airpoints credit card had generated 2 free Koru lounge passes. Wouldn't they know within their data base that I am Gold elite thus don't need the free passes, saved them an email and me reading it? Anyone else received the same?


Those passes are like gold now hard to get hold of due to lounge capacity with so many koru members and *A gold etc. they don't just hand them out willy nilly. However what you can do is use them for friends or business partners etc (or flick one my way I'll gladly relieve you of that burden   )
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:47 pm

Quoting PA515 (Reply 67):
Three have the small rear cargo door:VH-VPD (L/N 756 Jan 2009), VH-VPE (L/N 764 Feb 2009), VH-VPF (L/N 801 Aug 2009).

There is space for 8 pallets in the forward cargo compartment . After allowing for LD3's for baggage on a 300- passenger day there is only space for 2 pallets in the aft cargo compartment. BITRE statistic for CY2014 suggest that typically a VA flight to/from LAX had 10.6t of cargo aboard which is ~ 6 pallets. Thus from an operational point of view the pallet capcity of the forward cargo hold appears to be adequate and the smaller rear compartment door would appear to have minimal effect on VA 's trans-Pacific cargo operaions.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:52 pm

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 155):
Thus from an operational point of view the pallet capcity of the forward cargo hold appears to be adequate and the smaller rear compartment door would appear to have minimal effect on VA 's trans-Pacific cargo operaions.

Also the fact that SYD-LAX is longer than AKL-LAX, would limit the cargo that they could carry compared to NZ
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:32 pm

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 154):
However what you can do is use them for friends or business partners etc (or flick one my way I'll gladly relieve you of that burden

Not anymore, since they are now e-passes. Rule is that you can use them for friends/trelatives, but they must travel with you. And if that is the case, you can also get them in with your Gold card  

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:43 pm

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 154):
Those passes are like gold now hard to get hold of due to lounge capacity with so many koru members and *A gold etc. they don't just hand them out willy nilly. However what you can do is use them for friends or business partners

Not so golden. If the lounge is at capacity, they won't let you in on a pass, nor will they let anyone accompany you on a Gold card.

I'm getting to the point where I'm over lounge access anyway. Certainly at AKL, for the price of a cup of coffee in the International terminal you'll have more space, privacy, and peace than you will in the lounge itself. There really are some abysmal lounges out there........ * alliance at MXP, KL/AF at PVG would rank amongst the most atrocious that I've experienced recently. Most of the others are mediocre, and no better than terminal area itself apart from the free water and biscuit. Even SQ at SIN has gone downhill.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:00 am

Anyone know what the future holds of ZK-NGI after this month? I'm guessing that its to new to end up persevered?

Looks like there is an slim chance that ZK-NAD is still out there - http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=8200
If you check out the airport on Google Maps there is an 732 near the end of runway 31
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:02 am

Quoting gasman (Reply 158):
Certainly at AKL, for the price of a cup of coffee in the International terminal

I used the EK lounge on my way to SYD which is nice, but NZ have just booted out a bunch of airlines like CZ/KE/CI to allow more space (leading up to opening of new lounge) and the last 3 times I have not been cramped into lounge going to LAX/HKG/SIN in June. Food prices at AKL are horrendous and wifi is for 30min free. Even if I get a coffee to go it's worth a quick visit.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:48 am

ZK-NZH in the final assembly line @ Everett.

http://twitter.com/woody2190/status/638932587977674752

Quoting nascarnut (Reply 146):
Singapore back up to A380

Has this been actually confirmed yet?

Quoting 777ER (Reply 147):
Well think its safe to say that your wish will happen more often now

Lets hope so!

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 160):
wifi is for 30min free

This should be longer, especially in International.

Quoting zkncj (Reply 159):
Anyone know what the future holds of ZK-NGI after this month?

I don't believe that a buyer has been found (unlike ZK-NGJ, which apparently does). But if anyone was in the market for a 737-300, those ones are going to be the best. Lets hope that she has a bright future. Speaking of which, anyone else on ANZ557 this Sunday?

Quoting zkncj (Reply 159):
Looks like there is an slim chance that ZK-NAD is still out there

 Wow! Abandoned for twenty years? The amount of corrosion would be monumental! You'd have to ship it back to NZ, I guess. There's actually another photo in their database from 2009:
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6499800&nseq=0

Sad that a 737-200 hasn't been preserved somewhere around the country already. I wonder where the nose of ZK-NGM (the one that was used for the 75 anniversary exhibition at Te Papa) ended up?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:51 am

Quoting zkojq (Reply 161):
Sad that a 737-200 hasn't been preserved somewhere around the country already. I wonder where the nose of ZK-NGM (the one that was used for the 75 anniversary exhibition at Te Papa) ended up?

Hopefully it will end up in Auckland? surely they must be bringing it for the opening of the 75 Expedition at Auckland Museum later this year.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:55 am

Quoting zkojq (Reply 161):
I wonder where the nose of ZK-NGM (the one that was used for the 75 anniversary exhibition at Te Papa) ended up?

The nose is actually from NGK. NGM went to Mexico.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:00 am

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 160):
but NZ have just booted out a bunch of airlines like CZ/KE/CI to allow more space

Well I'd say that'd be more in line with the Skyteam lounge opening in SYD than anything else..
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:38 am

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 164):
Well I'd say that'd be more in line with the Skyteam lounge opening in SYD than anything else..

Wasn't this referring to NZ booting them out of the Auckland lounge, rather than SYD?

In SYD even DL still uses the NZ lounge, even though the SkyTeam lounge has opened.

What will be interesting, is to see what happens to the current Lounge space once NZ moves?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:09 am

Quoting zkojq (Reply 161):

Re SQ there is nothing so far saying the A380 isn't coming back. They are due to start premium economy to AKL with the A380 from OCT 25th. I understand it did pretty well load wise most of last year. No idea on yeilds though.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:14 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 165):
What will be interesting, is to see what happens to the current Lounge space once NZ moves?

QF is up for a renovation soon. Wouldn't be surprised to see them move into there. It could also mean EK can expand into the current QF space too.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:28 pm

Quoting zkojq (Reply 161):
This should be longer, especially in International.

This is the same airport company that we're talking about right? The Airport company wouldn't know how to run an airport any worse if they tried. It's a national embrassment on the same level as John Key and his small penis complex regarding the New Zealand flag.

Quoting zkncj (Reply 165):
Wasn't this referring to NZ booting them out of the Auckland lounge, rather than SYD?

Yep I was refering to AKL.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:49 pm

Quoting PA515 (Reply 127):
Looks like they will have a spare aircraft after all. A cautious beginning.
Four aircraft from 01 Feb 2016 on NPE-AKL-NPE (4 rtn), NSN-AKL-NSN (4 rtn), NSN-WLG-NSN (3 rtn), PMR-AKL-PMR (3 rtn), AKL-NPL-AKL (3 rtn).
30 min turnarounds at AKL. 20 min turnarounds at NPE, NSN and WLG. 30 min turnarounds at NPL and PMR.

Certainly looks like it. I mapped out their schedule on 8 Feb, and it can comfortably be operated by four aircraft.

Something like this:
AKL0600-0645NPL0715-0800AKL0830-0930NPE0950-1050AKL1455-1540NPL1610-1655AKL1730-1815NPL1845-1930AKL
NPE0630-0730AKL0800-0925NSN0945-1020WLG1040-1120NSN1140-1305AKL1345-1510NSN1530-1605WLG1625-1705NSN1725-1850AKL1920-2020NPE
PMR0645-0750AKL0825-0930PMR1000-1105AKL1200-1300NPE1320-1420AKL1450-1550NPE1610-1710AKL1740-1905NSN
NSN0635-0800AKL0850-1015NSN1035-1110WLG1130-1210NSN1230-1355AKL1435-1540PMR1620-1725AKL1800-1905PMR

Plenty of opportunities to swap aircraft between the different patterns.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:48 am

Ref Jetstars Q300 operation. Does anyone know what the rules will be around the number of F/A's required on a 50 seater aircraft.
Under NZ CAA only 1 F/A per 50 passengers. I heard the CASA may be lower. If so this will increase JQ's operating costs.
Because JQ operate VH registered aircraft do they fly under CASA rules. Also do they have a New Zealand or Australian AOC
and would this have an effect on number of F/A's required.
Also, all the pilot positions were posted as AKL based but only 1 Q300 to be based in AKL.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:31 am

Quoting nascarnut (Reply 170):
Because JQ operate VH registered aircraft do they fly under CASA rules. Also do they have a New Zealand or Australian AOC

Jetstar is operating in New Zealand on an Australian AOC which brings the aircraft under CASA rules, therefore the 1/36 applies. Which is probably we're NZ is getting at when they said they have an better cost base than Jetstar.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:17 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 171):
Jetstar is operating in New Zealand on an Australian AOC which brings the aircraft under CASA rules, therefore the 1/36 applies.

They can apply to CASA for a concession to operate on a 1:50 basis. As both QF & VA groups already have such concessions for some of their aircraft I doubt it would be that difficult to obtain.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:46 am

Quoting nascarnut (Reply 170):
Also, all the pilot positions were posted as AKL based but only 1 Q300 to be based in AKL.

The crewing looks interesting if it is just the AKL crew base as the schedule (as posted by SXI899 above) looks like they'll need to slip crews at out stations.

For example, the last AKL-NPE flight arrives at 20:20 and the first flight the next morning leaves NPE for AKL at 06:30. This won't allow the required minimum rest between duties for the one crew to operate last in, first out. Not unless CASA mandate a minimum rest period between duties of eight hours rather than the ten hours the NZCAA requires.


Quoting nascarnut (Reply 170):
Because JQ operate VH registered aircraft do they fly under CASA rules. Also do they have a New Zealand or Australian AOC

They're operating under the TTMRA, so an Australian AOC but must abide by the more restrictive of any rule differences between the two countries, although I'm not too sure how well this last point is enforced.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:53 am

Quoting Mr AirNZ (Reply 163):
The nose is actually from NGK. NGM went to Mexico.

Right you are! Thanks for the correction.

Quoting nascarnut (Reply 170):
Also do they have a New Zealand or Australian AOC

They are using Eastern Australian Airlines' certificate, but its more complicated than that.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:10 pm

ZK-MVF has been out of action at WLG since 30th August. What happened?

http://flyinggeek.blogspot.co.nz Monday, August 31, 2015 'ATR72 under tow at Wellington'

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Sat Sep 05, 2015 6:26 am

Quoting PA515 (Reply 175):
ZK-MVF has been out of action at WLG since 30th August. What happened?

Ground equipment damage to an aileron and aileron tab. Awaiting spares as these are items that are not generally kept on the shelf due to the horrendous cost.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:40 am

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 176):
Ground equipment damage to an aileron and aileron tab. Awaiting spares as these are items that are not generally kept on the shelf due to the horrendous cost.

Thanks NZ1. Will this extend the retirement date for NGI?

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:20 pm

Has anyone kept track of flight increases into CHC this Christmas. Capacity out of CHC will almost double compared to what they
have at the moment. Just off the top of my head below are some of the increases

CI 6 x weekly A333 to TPE via MEL or SYD
CZ 3 x weekly 787 to CAN
SQ 10 x weekly 772 to SIN, increase of 3 over current schedule

I don't have a breakdown of VA/JQ/QF and NZ additional flying to Australia. Looks like a good Summer for Christchurch Airport
along with the usual Deep Freeze operation, Christchurch ramp will be busy.
Only thing missing is EK upgrading to A380 on the CHC-SYD service. Maybe due to no gate able to use two airbridges for boarding.

Along with AKL's increased service looks like a good summer for travel to/from NZ
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Sat Sep 05, 2015 5:55 pm

'Air New Zealand flight simulator ride'

Start price: $1,500 Closes Fri 25 Sep, 9:30 pm

2 hour session. Up to three seated pax, minimum age of 14. Must be used within six months.

Proceeds to Mount Albert Grammar School Foundation (Rowing Fund)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/travel-even...s/activities/auction-943622558.htm

Doesn't say which simulator. Probably 763.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:21 am

Does anyone have an idea when the new NZ lounge will open at AKL? I had heard August a while back but no such luck...
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:27 am

Quoting PA515 (Reply 177):

Thanks NZ1. Will this extend the retirement date for NGI?

No it won't. Last 733 flight is this evening, NZ557 AKL-CHC. End of an era.

NZ1

[Edited 2015-09-06 00:32:01]
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Sun Sep 06, 2015 8:36 am

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 181):
No it won't. Last 733 flight is this evening, NZ557 AKL-CHC. End of an era.

Surprised how little media attend NZ557 got tonight, even nothing on NZ own social media
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:12 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 182):

Quoting NZ1 (Reply 181):
No it won't. Last 733 flight is this evening, NZ557 AKL-CHC. End of an era.

Surprised how little media attend NZ557 got tonight, even nothing on NZ own social media


Met a journalist onboard. I also found out the captain had an interview with some radio network. Maybe the attention is just yet to arrive?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Sun Sep 06, 2015 9:23 am

ZK-OXK is on delivery as ANZ6097.

http://www.flightradar24.com/ANZ6097/7578f01

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:11 am

Quoting NZ2 (Reply 180):
Does anyone have an idea when the new NZ lounge will open at AKL? I had heard August a while back but no such luck...

End of next month apparently.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Sun Sep 06, 2015 1:07 pm

Air New Zealand's final 737 service (ANZ557, AKL-CHC, ZK-NGI, 2015-09-06) by ZK-NZE, on Flickr

I was lucky enough to be aboard ANZ557! The crew were absolutely fantastic and I really can't speak highly enough of them - they really do encapsulate all that I like about the airline. There were loads of of Air New Zealanders (past and present) queueing at gate 30 before the flight wanting to get final photos of ZK-NGI. Once aboard, Captain David Morgan announced the special nature of the flight. There was a fire engine at the gate, which must have given us a watercannon salute as we pushed back (I didn't actually see this, but the gate area was very wet as we taxiied past whilst all the other ones were dry). Takeoff from 05 was smooth, we cruised at 34,000ft. There was a little turbulence 15 minutes after departure, but we were warned of it. We were given special 'farewell 737' cupcakes. About halfway through the flight the cabin crew (as well as Captain David Morgan) started serving passengers some special Champagne and then five minutes before the top of descent there was a toast to the aircraft, its service at Air New Zealand and to the crew who have operated them. Captain Stringer performed a very gentle landing on runway 20 and taxiied us quickly to the gate. A hearty round of applause was given as the aircraft touched down and again as we docked at the gate. As everyone exited, the crew were quite chatty and talked openly about their experiences on the aircraft. Plenty of people went to the flight deck for a photo and the flight crew shook everyone's hand as they exited.

I was last off; the final passenger to disembark from an Air New Zealand 737 service. 
Quoting NZ1 (Reply 181):
No it won't. Last 733 flight is this evening, NZ557 AKL-CHC. End of an era.

They'll be missed!

Eventually I'll write a proper trip report..... Hopefully by the end of the week. A big thanks to certain members here for their advice as to which flight would be the 737's final service with Air New Zealand.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:28 pm

Quoting zkojq (Reply 186):

Thanks for the post and your photos.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:32 pm

Can the 789s do PTY? Rumors from this part of the world is that PTY Govt is actively pursuing them and has offered themthe same deal as EK and LH got. When it comes to the checkbook, the govt of panama is not shy

With a CM codeshare it would do well

Maybe even AKL-LIM - PTY
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Mon Sep 07, 2015 11:42 am

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 188):
Can the 789s do PTY

Sure. The flight time would be similar to IAH at about 14.5 hrs westbound . The line in the sand for the 789 is about 16hrs.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:05 pm

the times for the new Air China service to AKL -

CA CA783/NZ3888 Beijing 00:40 18:10 Auckland 12:30 Daily
CA CA784/NZ3889 Auckland 20:00 04:30+1 Beijing 13:30 Daily

the inbound flight is clearly aimed at flights within New Zealand. But 04:30 in PEK wow! at least your be in time for when the airport train starts to the city.

http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/air-china-alliance
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Mon Sep 07, 2015 6:48 pm

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 189):
Sure. The flight time would be similar to IAH at about 14.5 hrs westbound . The line in the sand for the 789 is about 16hrs.

Just that NZ's current 789s are probably an tad to heavy to get 16hours range out of them, with 313 seats compared to the recommended 260ish.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:03 pm

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 190):

the times for the new Air China service to AKL -

CA CA783/NZ3888 Beijing 00:40 18:10 Auckland 12:30 Daily
CA CA784/NZ3889 Auckland 20:00 04:30+1 Beijing 13:30 Daily

the inbound flight is clearly aimed at flights within New Zealand. But 04:30 in PEK wow! at least your be in time for when the airport train starts to the city.

I was surprised CA got an AKL turnaround of 1810 - 2000 as this is a very busy time, especially for Air NZ. PEK slots are difficult for foreign carriers to obtain, except between about 0030 and 0500, so maybe this now applies to CA as well. I hope Air NZ hasn't sacrificed anything to get this codeshare.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:12 pm

Quoting zkncj (Reply 191):
Just that NZ's current 789s are probably an tad to heavy to get 16hours range out of them, with 313 seats compared to the recommended 260ish

Compard to UA for example NZ saves about 850kg in seat weight by virtue of their high % of light Y and Y+ seats. But at max passenger they give back about 4400kg. My best estimate is that NZ 789's are good for a few minutes south of 16-hrs. Now when you hear Joyce talking of DFW-MEL with a 789 it tells you the weights are coming down and the SFC is improving , or both.
With that scenario, by the time NZ gets #11 and 12 JFK-AKL might be possible.   
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Mon Sep 07, 2015 8:55 pm

ZK-MVF returned to service on Sunday afternoon after a WLG-WLG testflight. Also, ZK-OKC was towed to the International hard standing area for about an hour yesteday morning, presumably for engine tests after the refit.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:06 pm

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 193):
With that scenario, by the time NZ gets #11 and 12 JFK-AKL might be possible.  

Isn't this already possible with a 772-LR?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:11 am

Quoting gasman (Reply 195):
Isn't this already possible with a 772-LR?

The load range chart suggests ~ a 36t payload westbound JFK-AKL on a 17.5hr day which is comfortably more than the typical 270-seat passenger load.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Wed Sep 09, 2015 5:58 am

I am looking to book a one way fare with NZ from HKG to AKL, I get off a cruise ship there and need a ride home for the wife and I. Booking one way on the website takes me to the HKG site which is logical, and the fare is in HKD, about $5,800 including tax, or about NZD1250.

Question is, does NZ ever special fares out of HKG? Just wondering if it is worth watching and waiting since flight dateis not till early next year....

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:14 am

Quoting NZ2 (Reply 197):
Question is, does NZ ever special fares out of HKG? Just wondering if it is worth watching and waiting since flight dateis not till early next year....

I have seen PE for that price out of HKG...hang about a bit, unless it's a notorious HKG busy time,
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 164

Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:29 am

@NZ2, sometimes the cruise operators themselves have access to special fares which aren't for sale publicly...have you checked with the cruise company ?

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