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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:40 am

Quoting qantas747 (Reply 97):
Reading an article posted on the MAB A350 thread.
http://oa.geodiction.com/articles/14...ings-and-firefly-%E2%80%93-for-now
The linked article suggests that Malindo is starting PER due to the exit of MH. I'm not sure of the truth of this as MH dropping PER seems ludicrous. But LCC competition may force their hand. Anyone know if there is truth to this?
Quoting qantas747 (Reply 97):
I hope to god not! MH has been around in PER for years, would be a HUGE shame to see them pull out. I'm hoping they mean the cancellation of the second daily rotation.

As noted in another thread its a badly written article. It says

Quote: To fill the Kuala Lumpur to Perth gap created by MAB’s cancellation of the route, the chief executive of the Lion Air Group’s Malaysian offshoot, Malindo Air, said he hoped to receive approval for opeate the route next month. Chandran Rama Muthy said he would launch B737 operations to Western Australia by November. Founded in March 2013, Malindo has eleven ATR72-600s, six B737-800s and six -900s. It expected to accept delivery of another four B737s by year-end.


The author of the article should have said something like the recent cancellation of the flight MH126/127 which operated 5 days a week. This is how I understood it.

MH124/125 is still operational and there has been no word of this being cancelled.

The 5 weekly MH126/127 flight had 1415 seats available in each direction every week, a daily OD 739 will have around 1442 seats in each direct every week. ( I have had to use the JT configuration of 10C/196Y to work off as I was unable to find a seat map for OD)

Here's the rest of the article as link doesn't work

Malaysia Airlines Berhad (MAB), in operation since September 1, will announce the reduction of its fleet in the next few days. “We have some capacity reduction in certain markets that is basically already in place. The company is in the midst of the exercise and will announce it in the next couple of days,” MAB chief, Christoph Mueller, told the New Straits Times. MAB pilots told This Week in Asia-Pacific Aviation in July that the carrier’s 13 remaining B777-200ERs would be scrapped or sold by early next year.

Mueller added MAB would keep its MASWings, Firefly, MASEngineering and MASKargo subsidiaries as standalone entities for now, despite previous reports that the regional governments of Sabah and Sarawak were likely to acquire MASWings and Firefly.

The MAB chief said the carrier’s rebranding exercise was on-going. Details would emerge in 12 to 18 months because the airline was focused on operational aspects for now. “The priority in the next couple of months will be to get the basics right. We will then start the year by renewing our products,’ he said. “In the next a couple of months we are going to renew the customer experience. We are considering a very light brand refresh so that our customers and employees can feel the fresh start.”

Product enhancements would include new long-haul business class products, information technology systems, catering and food concepts. “We do not have the financial means to work with a bang. We can’t repaint aircraft and refurbish all seats overnight. What you should expect is a quick succession of announcements and quick cut-over dates where we will work on seats, caterers, in-flight entertainment and so on,” Mueller said.

At press time, Air Lease Corporation and MAB signed long-term leases for four new A350-900s, with options for two more of the type as well as two A330-900neo.

Sovereign wealth fund, Khazanah Nasional, said it would “soon” disburse another 1.3 billion ringgit ($307 million) in conditional investment funding to MAB to pay for termination packages to approximately 7,000 staff the old MAS shed.

To fill the Kuala Lumpur to Perth gap created by MAB’s cancellation of the route, the chief executive of the Lion Air Group’s Malaysian offshoot, Malindo Air, said he hoped to receive approval for opeate the route next month. Chandran Rama Muthy said he would launch B737 operations to Western Australia by November. Founded in March 2013, Malindo has eleven ATR72-600s, six B737-800s and six -900s. It expected to accept delivery of another four B737s by year-end.

Fresh competition for both MAB and Malindo is on the horizon after Indonesia last week abandoned a punitive policy that had forced low-cost carriers (LCCs) to charge higher prices. The ruling was criticised by some carriers after it was enacted in a reaction to the Indonesia AirAsia crash last December 28. The rollback, which will become effective on September 28, permits LCCs to sell tickets for as low as 30% of the maximum fare of full service carriers, rather than the present 40%. The reversal represented a nod to growing business concerns that the weakening Indonesian and Malaysian currencies, coupled with slowing economies, was cutting into profits at Southeast Asia’s carriers. Suprasetyo, Indonesia’s transportation ministry director-general for aviation, said the lower price level was intended to bolster consumer purchasing power.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:12 am

Given the results of this weekends football finals there is a reasonable chance 1 or both Perth teams could make the Grand Final. With that in mind I looked at seat availability and price PER-MEL-PER over that weekend and saw very few direct flights available and even flights with connections priced in excess of $1200 return.

Perhaps those in the know could tell us if QF, VA, JQ and TT would consider additional flights should the WA teams make it? What considerations would there be? Where would aircraft/crew come from?

I remember seeing many of the Perth regulars at Essendon when Fremantle played a few years ago, it was interesting to see the BAe146's and F100s on this side of the country. Perhaps charters using Perth based aircraft are the only hope for fans heading east.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:33 am

Quoting ItsMike (Reply 101):
Given the results of this weekends football finals there is a reasonable chance 1 or both Perth teams could make the Grand Final. With that in mind I looked at seat availability and price PER-MEL-PER over that weekend and saw very few direct flights available and even flights with connections priced in excess of $1200 return.

Virgin have already put up a few extra flights, but they have been on sale for a while, so even those flights are already quite full and have high prices. But, they seem to put on some extra flights each year.

I expect Virgin to perhaps put up a few more flights this coming week, if not, then probably after the prelims, they'll decide how many extra flights they'll need.

When Freo went to the Grand Final a couple years ago, Virgin put on quite a few extra flights, yet, at PER, we saw passengers connect to MEL through destinations as far away as DRW and even HKT. Was even told my someone that a few passengers flew SQ PER-SIN-MEL.

In fact, on one of the ADL flights we had (E190), I think there were about 10 pax going to ADL and 90 pax connecting to MEL!

Now, that was with one team in the GF, now imagine if both go!

I'm sure the airlines are loving the distances being flown this year, with 4 games in Perth and a GF that might see 2 teams from Perth.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:36 am

I seem to recall hearing that some people also went via AKL.

Earlier this season I had planned to go to Darwin for the WCE v Melbourne game and from MEL it was cheaper to go via DPS than direct.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:08 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 90):
Quoting EK413 (Reply 84):
Any idea why QF have opted to retire the QF87/88 flight numbers which was the original evening departure flight no.

Qantas have been increasingly "clustering" their international route numbers in the same way they do their domestic flights.

The existing flights are QF127/128, so the logical sequence for the new flights are QF129/130 ... which is SYD-PVG-SYD. QF125/126 is BNE-AKL-BNE. So QF117/118 is kind of "same same but different".

I'm actually more surprised that they didn't either renumber BNE-AKL-BNE or SYD-PVG-SYD, or renumber the existing QF127/128 to QF115/116.

IMHO QF5/6 isn't too long for this world. I wouldn't be too surprised if it was renumbered within the next 12 months.

Yes, I have noticed a vast amount of retired flight numbers such QF45/46, QF65/66 which operated AKL & CHC services.

I don't remember the other Tasman flight numbers but we also had QF163 SYD-ADL-SIN?

Quoting ItsMike (Reply 101):
Given the results of this weekends football finals there is a reasonable chance 1 or both Perth teams could make the Grand Final. With that in mind I looked at seat availability and price PER-MEL-PER over that weekend and saw very few direct flights available and even flights with connections priced in excess of $1200 return.

I'd say all 4 would schedule additional capacity for the AFL Finals especially VA considering they are the official carrier.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Sun Sep 13, 2015 12:10 pm

If both PER based teams make it, just hold it in PER   
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:45 pm

Quoting EK413 (Reply 104):

I'd say all 4 would schedule additional capacity for the AFL Finals especially VA considering they are the official carrier.

Have just been through some archives for 2013 when the dockers were in the GF. VA was official airline for AFL back in 2013 as well. They operate 3 extra services, 1 x 737-700 and 2 737-800 whereas QF operate and extra 5 flights, 2 x 767-300, 2 x A330-200 and 1 747-400.

Quoting ItsMike (Reply 101):
With that in mind I looked at seat availability and price PER-MEL-PER over that weekend and saw very few direct flights available and even flights with connections priced in excess of $1200 return

Having looked at prices for QF the cheapest direct flight is about $2200 return. All flights operating MEL-PER the day after GF are $1400.

I would expect both QF & VA fleet planners are working on extra flights but nothing would be announced until after the prelims.

In QF fleet news

VH-EBK entered into service on Saturday operating QF501 BNE-SYD

http://www.theqantassource.com/qanta...330-200-vh-ebk-returns-to-service/

VH-EBI has been withdrawn from service. Last flight was QF19 SYD-MNL on Sunday where it is to have end of lease maintenance.

http://www.theqantassource.com/qantas-a330-200-vh-ebi-withdrawn/

VH-OQK returned from MNL maintenance last Friday and VH-OQF positioned to MNL for maintenance on Sunday.

http://www.theqantassource.com/qanta...returns-from-manila-maintenance-2/

http://www.theqantassource.com/qanta...positions-to-manila-maintenance-2/
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Sun Sep 13, 2015 11:05 pm

Quoting qf789 (Reply 106):
I'd say all 4 would schedule additional capacity for the AFL Finals especially VA considering they are the official carrier.

Have just been through some archives for 2013 when the dockers were in the GF. VA was official airline for AFL back in 2013 as well. They operate 3 extra services, 1 x 737-700 and 2 737-800 whereas QF operate and extra 5 flights, 2 x 767-300, 2 x A330-200 and 1 747-400.

All 4 airlines will schedule extra flights providing they have available aircraft. Due to licensing, only VA are allowed to advertise these as Grand Final flights though everyone understands why the extra flights are operating.

For Melburnians wanting a weekend in PER, grand final weekend will probably offer some amazing deals!!
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Mon Sep 14, 2015 12:49 am

BATIK AIR

Lion Air's full service subsidiary Batik Air is said to be planning flights to Perth from Denpasar/Bali in 2016 per CAPA.

We all know that the the Bali market (especially from the West Coast) is already saturated and with Lion's abhorrent safety record I doubt Australia flights will come easy (if at all) for the airline group.


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Virgin Australia has opened the doors of its stunning Brisbane lounge expansion as well as its new Premium Entry. I have to say that I absolutely adore the skylight, what a beautiful statement piece. I will let the pictures do the talking:

Photo tour: Virgin Australia's new Brisbane lounge, terminal - AusBT
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:13 am

Quoting qf789 (Reply 106):
In QF fleet news

Probably an opportune time to update this then:

A330-300

VH-QPA - in new config
VH-QPB - in new config
VH-QPC - in new config
VH-QPD - in new config
VH-QPE
VH-QPF
VH-QPG
VH-QPH
VH-QPI - in new config
VH-QPJ

A330-200

VH-EBA - in new config
VH-EBB - in new config
VH-EBC
VH-EBD
VH-EBE - still operating with JQ.
VH-EBF
VH-EBG
VH-EBI - withdrawn from fleet
VH-EBJ - in new config
VH-EBK - in new config
VH-EBL
VH-EBM - in Brisbane maintenance
VH-EBN
VH-EBO
VH-EBP
VH-EBQ
VH-EBR
VH-EBS - in new config
VH-EBV - in new config
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:54 am

remember the t shirt "I own an airline"on the front - "qantas" on the back
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Mon Sep 14, 2015 5:57 am

http://australianaviation.com.au/201...base-after-winning-25mln-contract/

The "rise of the Phoenix". Great to see, and their employee numbers have doubled, good luck to them.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:29 am

Quoting TN486 (Reply 110):

Yes great to see this route going again...surprised they are operating this with the E120 and not the M23..hopefully it will last...
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:36 am

Quoting QF175 (Reply 108):
Virgin Australia has opened the doors of its stunning Brisbane lounge expansion as well as its new Premium Entry. I have to say that I absolutely adore the skylight, what a beautiful statement piece. I will let the pictures do the talking:

You are right. It looks stunning. During his time at both QF and VA, JB has shown he has a real eye for aesthetics when it comes to delivering to customers. One can only wonder what the standard of domestic cabins and lounges would be without his influence. Now he has to convert the great looks into a great business financially.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:55 am

Quoting tullamarine (Reply 113):
You are right. It looks stunning. During his time at both QF and VA, JB has shown he has a real eye for aesthetics when it comes to delivering to customers. One can only wonder what the standard of domestic cabins and lounges would be without his influence. Now he has to convert the great looks into a great business financially.

Yup, that's his challenge. The new on-board product, lounges and other customer/product initiatives look really good, but lets be honest, anyone who had money to spend could have also done a similar job (albeit, they may have not done it which may not have suited everyone's tastes) . JB's issues are twofold:
1) VA is still operating at a yield disadvantage vs QF (whilst QF is slowly bringing down their cost base disadvantage relative to VA).
2) They've introduced a domestic business product that would be competitive against many international carrier's products, which was really there to win the premium market on PER-East Coast routes, but the downturn in mining means that the premium demand is no longer what it was 5-6 years ago and I'd guess that premium yields are also lower (for both QF and VA on PER flights). Sure the increase in traffic on the East Coast triangle route (MEL_BNE_SYD) has offset some of the PER decline, but the new VA business product is overkill for 1-2 hour flights. JB won't be getting the return on capital he anticipated when the decision was made to initially install the product. At least QF's new business product on the A332's can be deployed on Intl routes whereas VA can't (at present anyway, as their A332's only fly domestic).
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:27 am

Quoting QF175 (Reply 108):
I will let the pictures do the talking

For all of the glitzy lights, there is very, very little of any substance in this new lounge expansion. For that, I will let the pictures do the talking. This is absolutely classic Borghetti and classic "Virgin" Brand. Lot's of glitzy lights and pretty pictures, but nothing of any substance. Lord alone knows that Qantas' lounges in Brisbane are woefully inadequate, but when they are expanded they will deliver a real premium product, albeit maybe one that doesn't catch so much attention as the try-hard Virgin approach.

Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 114):
JB won't be getting the return on capital he anticipated when the decision was made to initially install the product. At least QF's new business product on the A332's can be deployed on Intl routes whereas VA can't

Borghetti showed his hand as not giving a stuff about ROI or, indeed, the retail shareholders, when he announced their extravagant new business product even thought the old one was only a matter of years old. Their is no possibility whatsoever that VAH earned a positive ROI on their last A330 business seat.

I still live in excitement for the day that ASIC drags Borghetti into court for acting in a manner that is utterly prejudicial to their interests of minority share holders.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:15 am

NZ 789 ZK-NZE made its first appearance into Brisbane today. Very sleek machine.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e303/OZJIM/NZE_zpsmxr1hvvi.jpg

Both repainted JQ NZ Dash 8s are currently parked in BNE. Rumour has it all 5 will be here before going over to NZ.

RAF C17 ZZ173 was back in BNE again today. It's been a regular over the past few months.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:06 am

From 23rd September 2015 changes for seat selection on QF international flights will apply

- the $25 fee on economy saver and economy fares will be axed
- on Trans-Tasman flights the cost of seat selection will drop from $25 to $15
- seat selection of QF international flights bought on the cheapest economy sale fare will increase from $25 to $30

http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-to-ax...fees-on-most-international-flights
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:28 am

Quoting thai77w (Reply 116):

Surprising NZE has been around this long without making it to BNE until yesterday!
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:49 am

Quoting qf789 (Reply 117):

From 23rd September 2015 changes for seat selection on QF international flights will apply

- the $25 fee on economy saver and economy fares will be axed
Good news. QF has no reason as a premium carrier to charge for seat selection.

- on Trans-Tasman flights the cost of seat selection will drop from $25 to $15
Ridiculous. I only paid $5 to do this on JQ on a $100 TT fare.

- seat selection of QF international flights bought on the cheapest economy sale fare will increase from $25 to $30
Disgusting.

http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantas-to-ax...fees-on-most-international-flights

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:52 am

Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 114):
the downturn in mining means that the premium demand is no longer what it was 5-6 years ago and I'd guess that premium yields are also lower (for both QF and VA on PER flights).

I would say that both VA & QF think that by offering a fantastic J product for flights to PER, they can command a higher fare than with the standard recliner seen on 737s. So despite the weakening WA economy, fares will remain high due to the improved product (and also the reduction in available J seats). However I doubt that fare premium is enough to counter the low density of the J cabin on A332s.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 115):
This is absolutely classic Borghetti and classic "Virgin" Brand. Lot's of glitzy lights and pretty pictures, but nothing of any substance.

It fits extremely well with the Virgin branding, but I don't think it ages well. It's quite on-trend but often trendy design dates easily. Plus the abundance of white and glossy surfaces don't wear well and show damage/dirt quite easily. Needless to say I was not impressed recently with the condition of the VA SYD lounge, the older QF SYD lounge seems to have fared better.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:28 am

Quoting A320fan (Reply 119):
Good news. QF has no reason as a premium carrier to charge for seat selection.

Some premium carriers don't even offer the option at all for advanced seat selection on the cheaper fares (CX for example) and others charge far higher prices...have you looked at BA!

Quoting A320fan (Reply 119):
- seat selection of QF international flights bought on the cheapest economy sale fare will increase from $25 to $30
Disgusting.

Not really...you pay a cheaper fare for a reason...the fare comes with less options hence the lower price to other fare classes. Otherwise, just wait until online check-in for seat selection, that is and always has been free.

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 115):
For all of the glitzy lights, there is very, very little of any substance in this new lounge expansion. For that, I will let the pictures do the talking. This is absolutely classic Borghetti and classic "Virgin" Brand. Lot's of glitzy lights and pretty pictures, but nothing of any substance. Lord alone knows that Qantas' lounges in Brisbane are woefully inadequate, but when they are expanded they will deliver a real premium product, albeit maybe one that doesn't catch so much attention as the try-hard Virgin approach.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Tue Sep 15, 2015 6:41 am

Quoting A320fan (Reply 119):

And as a premium carrier they are removing the fee from the premium fares.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:44 am

Quoting qf789 (Reply 106):
They operate 3 extra services, 1 x 737-700 and 2 737-800

Where do you get that? I seem to remember a lot more extra flights than that from VA.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:58 am

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 118):
Surprising NZE has been around this long without making it to BNE until yesterday!

NZ doesn't usually operate the 789 to Brisbane, there is a couple of one off flights during September/October, as NZ currently has 2x 772 out of service for refitting so that has meant the 77W has an higher work load at the moment. Also there is a couple of one off AKL-LAX services on NZ3/4.

NZ use the 789 on:
AKL-SYD
AKL-PER
AKL-PVG
AKL-NRT
AKL-NAN (Daily Starting Soon)
AKL-SIN (Daily Starting Christmas).

NZ use the 77W on:
AKL-MEL
AKL-NAN
AKL-RAR
AKL-BNE
AKL-LAX-LHR
AKL-SFO

NZ use the 772 on:
AKL-SYD
AKL-MEL(extra flights on top of the 77W service)
AKL-BNE (extra flights on top of the 77W service)
AKL-LAX
AKL-IAH
AKL-HKG
AKL-SIN (becomming an 789)
AKL-SFO
AKL-YVR
AKL-RAR
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:37 am

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 123):
Where do you get that? I seem to remember a lot more extra flights than that from VA.

From the VA source

http://www.thevasource.com/routetracker.html

The 2013 GF was on the 28th September, 2 flights operated on the 26th and another operated on the 28th, a red eye if I recall
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:29 pm

QF has increased codeshare with WS. Routes added include

Calgary – Brandon
Calgary – Comox
Calgary – Edmonton
Calgary – Grande Prairie
Calgary – Penticton
Edmonton – Abbotsford
Edmonton – Grande Prairie
Edmonton – Kelowna
Edmonton – Regina
Edmonton – Saskatoon
Edmonton – Toronto
Toronto – Fredericton
Toronto – Quebec City
Toronto – Thunder Bay
Vancouver – Fort McMurray
Vancouver – Fort St. John
Vancouver – Prince George
Vancouver – Terrace
Vancouver – Victoria

http://airlineroute.net/2015/09/15/qfws-codeshare-sep15/
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:39 pm

In regards to the 2013 AFL Grand Final a lot of services were actually operated by Virgin Australia Regional Airlines, not Virgin Mainline. Quite a few Virgin F100s, along with their A320s went over at the time, full of Fremantle fans.

Apart from Virgin and Qantas. National Jet operated a number of BAE146 flights and Alliance operated F100s from Perth to Melbourne Essendon via Adelaide as charters. Essendon was a very busy airport that weekend!

As someone who is passionate about aviation. That week in 2013 was an awesome time to go and watch aircraft at Perth Airport. It was quite memorable to see so many different types with - VH-OJT, VH-OGG (B767 Disney cars livery) and a number of QF A332s at the same time. The gates were so busy at the QF terminal. That QF had A332s waiting quite some time on the taxiway for a gate.

On the topic of QF. I was watching Part 1 of the Peter Allen biopic that aired on Channel 7 last Sunday. The show was a ratings success. One thing that I really thought was missing during the ad breaks were some well known QF commercials. I Still Call Australia Home - A song Synonymous with both Qantas and Peter Allen for many years. Which was used as Qantas' advertising jingle from 1987-2009. It's just an idea for you QF, if you read this.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:12 pm

Quoting qf002 (Reply 7):
VH-EBI - leaving the fleet soon
Quoting jrfspa320 (Reply 69):
a couple of 332s being returned (I know there is 1?

Somewhat relevant: here is a photo of VH-EBH arriving at Getafe (Madrid) for her MRTT fitout.

http://www.hispaviacion.es/llega-a-g...ara-la-royal-australian-air-force/

Quoting qf789 (Reply 64):
QF117 SYD-HKG 1340-2005 Tues

Why is Tuesday's departure later than the others?

Quoting zkncj (Reply 76):
So does this mean from December AKL, will be the only airport to see all 3 JQ aircraft types? Q300,320,788?

Technically the Q300s are operated by Eastern Australian Airlines/QantasLink.

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 89):
That's because Lion knows they won't get permission to operate from Australia. And quite rightly too!

  

Quoting atal17 (Reply 91):
Effective 11NOV15, 1 daily KUL-PER on the B737-900ER

This will presumably be the first 737-900/737-900ER service to Australia or New Zealand. Have any -900s ever visited before?

Quoting atal17 (Reply 91):
Well, it happened Malindo Air launches Perth

A 50 minute turnaround time seems very tight.

Quoting qf789 (Reply 106):
VH-EBI has been withdrawn from service. Last flight was QF19 SYD-MNL on Sunday where it is to have end of lease maintenance.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:18 pm

Quoting TN486 (Reply 110):
Good to see them back flying "the milk run"
Quoting jrfspa320 (Reply 112):
Yes great to see this route going again...surprised they are operating this with the E120 and not the M23..hopefully it will last...

I remember in the very late 90s when Airnorth had the Brasilia operating the milk run six times per week (Mo-Sa down and Mo-Fr & Su back). Also, at the time Airnorth had an evening Cessna service DRW-KTR around five days per week and a morning flight KTR-DRW. I hope the route does well for them. It is amazing to me that the demand has not been there in recent years for connecting services from KTR and TCA to the southern capitals.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:58 pm

Quoting ZKOJQ (Reply 128):
A 50 minute turnaround time seems very tight.

That's about standard for a narrowbody. Here in PER QZ turns their aircraft around in 35 minutes. On widebodies the quickest is TZ at 1hr10 mins.

On the AFL GF I googled the 2006 GF final when the WCE last played. I found the following article which mentioned that QF had put on an extra 24 flights between PER-MEL in the days leading up to the GF.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/afl/despe...ghts/2006/09/29/1159337313446.html

In my search I also came across a schedule that was operated on the Friday (eve of GF), the last 4 flights operated early on the Saturday morning - found it on a search though I didn't take note of the website

QF1216 Melbourne 00:50 00:44 Departed
QF1224 Melbourne 01:00 00:58 Departed
QF1214 Melbourne 01:15 01:57 Departed
QF1250 Melbourne 01:30 01:33 Departed
QF1254 Melbourne 02:00 01:50 Departed
QF480 Melbourne 06:10 06:24 Departed
QF1212 Melbourne 08:10 08:09 Departed
QF1226 Melbourne 08:55 09:10 Departed
QF762 Melbourne 09:10 09:08 Departed
QF1222 Melbourne 10:15 10:19 Departed
QF802 Melbourne 11:25 11:38 Departed
QF476 Melbourne 13:40 13:45 Departed
QF768 Melbourne 15:40 15:40 Estimated
JQ147 Melbourne(Avalon) 17:15 17:15 Estimated
QF776 Melbourne 18:05 18:05 Estimated
QF1252 Melbourne 19:40 19:40 Estimated
QF648 Melbourne 23:50 23:50 Estimated
QF1242 Melbourne 00:10 00:10 Estimated
QF1256 Melbourne 00:45 00:45 Estimated
QF1224 Melbourne 00:50 00:50 Estimated
QF1214 Melbourne 01:15 01:15 Estimated
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:30 pm

EY462 AUH-MEL has just landed in PER, operated by A6-ETS
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Tue Sep 15, 2015 7:55 pm

Quoting ZKOJQ (Reply 128):
Technically the Q300s are operated by Eastern Australian Airlines/QantasLink.

Makes for an great tag on the end of there radio Adds, yet Qantas doesn't market that your Tasman flight is operated by 'Jet Connect'
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:22 pm

Quoting A320fan (Reply 119):
- seat selection of QF international flights bought on the cheapest economy sale fare will increase from $25 to $30Disgusting.

Why so? If you don't want to pay the premium, take another carrier! This is market forces at work . . .
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:11 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 124):

I didn't realise that... think I assumed, since they operate everything else at BNE regularly. Thanks for setting me straight!

Quoting ZKOJQ (Reply 128):
Quoting qf789 (Reply 64):QF117 SYD-HKG 1340-2005 Tues
Why is Tuesday's departure later than the others?

Possibly just that's how they were able to line up slots for that day, at a guess.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Wed Sep 16, 2015 12:29 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 115):
I still live in excitement for the day that ASIC drags Borghetti into court for acting in a manner that is utterly prejudicial to their interests of minority share holders.

but of course you would RyanairGuru, everyone know's how much you love AJ (yet you were quiet when he made decisions that cost Qantas multi-millions) and how you dislike JB.
JB is trying to grow VA and to capture more key accounts etc. Part of this is having up to date product (I'm not saying it was necessary to throw out fairly new seats - although they will probably find a home for them somewhere else).
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:47 am

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 135):
but of course you would RyanairGuru, everyone know's how much you love AJ (yet you were quiet when he made decisions that cost Qantas multi-millions) and how you dislike JB.

One day Ryanair may tell us exactly what JB did to him. It is a passionate dislike....must be more than being denied an upgrade.

I admit I like JB's sense of style but he needs to convert this into a profitable business model now and by all indications he will achieve this in FY16. I also admire AJ for turning around QF just when it looked like he was going to fail....if he resumes dividends soon I'll like him even more.

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 135):
they will probably find a home for them somewhere else).

I wonder if there is a market is sticking these at the front of some 73Hs. You'd probably have to sacrifice a row of Y but 8 seats of the old J class seats in the front of a 73H would be a clear differentiator particularly on the longer 737 routes from QLD, NT and WA. Having said that, I admit I haven't checked if this is even physically possible. I assume you could do it on an A320 but it may be a squeeze on a 737.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Wed Sep 16, 2015 1:48 am

Quoting ZKOJQ (Reply 128):
Why is Tuesday's departure later than the others?

QF stated that they were after daily slots, but could only muster 4x weekly after other airlines relinquished their slots. So it's likely QF couldn't get the same slot for Tuesday. Qantas says slot congestion at HK limiting growth

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 135):
(I'm not saying it was necessary to throw out fairly new seats - although they will probably find a home for them somewhere else)

SQ use the same model J seat on A330s and refurbished 772/773s. VA could pass (sell?) them on to SQ to be re-covered.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:16 am

Quoting qfvhoqa (Reply 137):
Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 135):
(I'm not saying it was necessary to throw out fairly new seats - although they will probably find a home for them somewhere else)

SQ use the same model J seat on A330s and refurbished 772/773s. VA could pass (sell?) them on to SQ to be re-covered.

Considering that SQ is a shareholder in VA this is a very likely possibility.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:00 am

Quoting tullamarine (Reply 136):
You'd probably have to sacrifice a row of Y but 8 seats of the old J class seats in the front of a 73H would be a clear differentiator particularly on the longer 737 routes from QLD, NT and WA.

As long as QF keeps recliners in J on 737s, VA probably won't ruffle the status quo. Flight length doesn't always mean higher yields though. MEL-DRW is a longer flight than MEL-PER but there doesn't seem to be much demand for a better J product.

Quoting tullamarine (Reply 136):
I assume you could do it on an A320 but it may be a squeeze on a 737.

Airlines have no problem fitting lie-flat seats on 757s, so I don't think cabin width would be an issue on 737s. Whether the floors are strong enough, I don't know.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Wed Sep 16, 2015 4:51 am

Quoting tullamarine (Reply 136):
One day Ryanair may tell us exactly what JB did to him.

Just like those from the anti-AJ faction might one day tell us exactly what AJ did to them to deserve the torrent of abuse that he copped here and elsewhere. RyanairGuru has been perfectly civil in expressing his views.

Sure, AJ made the very expensive decision to shut QF down for a couple of days and put a definitive end to the slow-bake campaign being waged by a couple of the unions. That decision had a purpose though, and it would probably have cost QF far more financially to allow the situation to drag on for another 6-12 months while the bureaucracy got themselves sorted out and the matter finally came to some sort of conclusion.

JB, meanwhile, has been busy making an endless chain of poor decisions since he joined DJ. While they might seem relatively minor in individual value, add them up and the total financial impact over the coming years will be huge. While QF's future is exciting (growing profitability, new aircraft, additional capacity, new routes etc), VA's looks bleak. The patience of it's major shareholders is starting to wear thin and there's no clear strategy for the future.

JB has taken an agile, energetic and rather profitable little carrier and turned them into a bloated clone of what QF was 5 years ago.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Wed Sep 16, 2015 5:24 am

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 135):
but of course you would RyanairGuru, everyone know's how much you love AJ (yet you were quiet when he made decisions that cost Qantas multi-millions) and how you dislike JB.
Quoting qf002 (Reply 140):
JB has taken an agile, energetic and rather profitable little carrier and turned them into a bloated clone of what QF was 5 years ago.

Anyone for a Boeing vs Airbus discussion?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:16 am

Quoting qf789 (Reply 130):
That's about standard for a narrowbody. Here in PER QZ turns their aircraft around in 35 minutes. On widebodies the quickest is TZ at 1hr10 mins.

Hmmmm....the 737-900s are quite big narrow-bodies though. Doesn't leave much time if the inbound flight is delayed.

Quoting zkncj (Reply 132):
yet Qantas doesn't market that your Tasman flight is operated by 'Jet Connect'

It says 'operated by JetConnect' on the fuselage next to the L1 door though.


Quoting tullamarine (Reply 136):
It is a passionate dislike....must be more than being denied an upgrade.

I've noticed this.

Quoting tullamarine (Reply 136):
he needs to convert this into a profitable business model now and by all indications he will achieve this in FY16.

I've got no argument about this at all.

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 134):
Possibly just that's how they were able to line up slots for that day, at a guess.
Quoting qfvhoqa (Reply 137):
QF stated that they were after daily slots, but could only muster 4x weekly after other airlines relinquished their slots. So it's likely QF couldn't get the same slot for Tuesday.

That would explain it. Thanks.

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 138):
Considering that SQ is a shareholder in VA this is a very likely possibility.

Also, SQ has one or two more A330s to be delivered. So it might save them some money if they can have them refurbished and fitted in time.

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 141):
Anyone for a Boeing vs Airbus discussion?

  
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:15 am

Quoting ZKOJQ (Reply 142):
Quoting qf789 (Reply 130):That's about standard for a narrowbody. Here in PER QZ turns their aircraft around in 35 minutes. On widebodies the quickest is TZ at 1hr10 mins.
Hmmmm....the 737-900s are quite big narrow-bodies though. Doesn't leave much time if the inbound flight is delayed.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:31 am

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 138):
Considering that SQ is a shareholder in VA this is a very likely possibility.

Do Fiji Airways have any more A330s coming? Or any other aircraft with new J class? They have the same seats as well (of course with different coverings).

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:07 am

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 144):

FJ are due to receive an A333 this year. Though would their relationship with QF prevent them buying seats from VA?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:16 am

Quoting http://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/media-releases/more-tassie-flights-and-jobs-for-qantaslink/:
Qantas today announced it will add more services between Hobart and east coast cities next year, with flights conveniently timed to benefit business travellers and customers connecting to Qantas international routes.
From 8 March 2016, QantasLink will operate a total of 46 return services per week from Hobart to Sydney and Melbourne, up from 35 services currently.
QantasLink CEO John Gissing said the additional services were in response to market demand – both in terms of overall capacity and time of day.
“Our new schedule offers more options for QantasLink flights throughout the day, with early morning flights delivering customers to Sydney or Melbourne early enough for a full day of business meetings,” Mr Gissing said.
“The additional 11 return services per week add an extra 2,420 seats to-and-from Hobart on our two-class Boeing 717 jet aircraft.
“Customers travelling to or from Qantas’ international destinations, such as Shanghai, Los Angeles, Tokyo and Johannesburg, will now have shorter connection times in Sydney and Melbourne.
“It also means there’s even more choice for Qantas customers wanting to holiday in Tasmania.”
The increase in flying also means an increase in jobs, with an additional 10 pilots and 15 cabin crew required at the Hobart base to operate the flights, which will almost double the current workforce.

Great to see expansion from Qantas... where is the aircraft(s) coming from though? Are there more 717's coming online or just reshuffle from WA with the slow down?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:53 am

Quoting TruemanQLD (Reply 146):
Great to see expansion from Qantas... where is the aircraft(s) coming from though? Are there more 717's coming online or just reshuffle from WA with the slow down?

Cobham is about to receive 2 more 717s. They are ex-Blue1 – Delta took the other 3 they had.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Wed Sep 16, 2015 10:07 am

Quoting qfvhoqa (Reply 137):
SQ use the same model J seat on A330s and refurbished 772/773s. VA could pass (sell?) them on to SQ to be re-covered.
Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 138):
Considering that SQ is a shareholder in VA this is a very likely possibility.

SQ getting hand-me-downs from VA? I wouldn't have thought so. SQ would've ordered their seats well in advance anyway as there is a fairly long lead time for seats.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 128

Wed Sep 16, 2015 11:40 am

Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 148):
SQ getting hand-me-downs from VA? I wouldn't have thought so. SQ would've ordered their seats well in advance anyway as there is a fairly long lead time for seats.

Well, SQ would have known about VA's seats well in advance as well. And, if the seats are refurbished, they would look new and no one would be the wiser.

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