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AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:50 am

Its being reported over on Flyertalk.com that AA is ending its contract with Skywest. AA's schedule for LAX-SAN which used to be all SKYW aircraft now show it being Compass flown after about 10/17.

Oddly though, other routes still currently show certain SKWY routes.

Any word on this?
 
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RE: AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:17 pm

I was under the impression that OO doing Eagle flying was only temporary from the get go. LAX while the E175s came in and ORD to pick up the slack from the quicker then anticipated end to RP flying. They are also picking up more E145's on the EV certificate.

See press release from 2012

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...-code-share-partner-169435116.html

[Edited 2015-08-29 05:26:56]
 
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RE: AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:35 pm

Quoting washingtonflyer (Thread starter):
AA's schedule for LAX-SAN which used to be all SKYW aircraft now show it being Compass flown after about 10/17.

I don't know why the operator on this one route is indicative of anything either way. Such things change like the wind.
 
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RE: AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Sat Aug 29, 2015 2:00 pm

Well if you're swapping out a CRJ-200 with a E-175, I think some people would have big smiles on their faces.
 
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RE: AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:19 pm

Quoting washingtonflyer (Thread starter):
Any word on this?

From what I know about it all the OO flying done out of LAX is in fact ending but those (or at least some) of those aircraft are being moved over to PHX replacing OO aircraft flying there which are still in the US Airways color scheme.

It should be noted that SkyWest doesn't even have a long term contract in PHX anymore. It's basically just done ad hoc so to speak at this point.
 
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RE: AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Sat Aug 29, 2015 3:49 pm

The AA-Skywest agreement covered 12 fixed fee frames from LAX that is drawing down this fall and ends fully in 2016.
Additionally Skywest(ExpressJet) at the same time entered into an agreement for 11 fixed-fee frames out of DFW that ends in 2017.
Lastly, OO has 6 pro-rate frames in the AA system, but these are short term 120-day notice contracts.

On the US side, all the Skywest agreements have ended or are in process of ending this year covering 10 50-seaters and 4 70-seaters.

The AA-Skywest CPA by design was a short term contract and simply meant to aid AA with the capacity shortfall it was experiencing with Envoy including allowing Envoy to close it LAX base.
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RE: AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:59 pm

Rumor I was told is LAX aircraft changes will be loaded this weekend for other AE routes. We'll see if that is true when enilria posts his OAG thread.
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RE: AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:16 pm

It's been much talked about that once the merger is fully realized, PHX will see much more Eagle flying than compared to the US system. However the ERJ, if AA chooses to put it in PHX, creates haul issues in the summer with performance.
 
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RE: AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Sat Aug 29, 2015 5:31 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 2):

I don't know why the operator on this one route is indicative of anything either way. Such things change like the wind.

It's Compass E-175. I have a trip out there in October and I got a res change this morning. Went from a CRJ to an E-175 and the operator listed is Compass on the LAX-SAN leg so they must have just dropped the schedule change.
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RE: AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:03 am

Supposedly Compass is going to take over all the LAX American Eagle flying. Mesa and OO are doing AE flying out of LAX until Compass can get all the AE birds online. The AE remote terminal is going to be all Compass eventually.
 
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RE: AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:51 am

How does the footprint of a E170/175 compare to a CR2? Seems to me like hard stand space is going to get a bit more cramped without the CRJs there.

On another note, does AA plan on keeping the same frequency level with the E-jets? We're talking about a 50% boost in seats on any given flight.
 
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RE: AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Sun Aug 30, 2015 3:19 am

The XNA-LAX flight changes over to the Compass E175 on Sept. 9. Does anyone know if these birds will have ovens in the galleys to do a full meal service in F?
 
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RE: AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Sun Aug 30, 2015 5:44 am

E175s are loaded now except for TUS from what I can see.
 
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RE: AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:25 pm

I've not known any E-jet in commercial in North America to have ovens.

On the IAH-PHL flights I've taken (3.25 hours), F meal service would usually consist of a salad (bed of lettuce, and you'd be given choices of chicken or salmon and other fixings).
 
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RE: AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Sun Aug 30, 2015 1:28 pm

Quoting washingtonflyer (Reply 13):
I've not known any E-jet in commercial in North America to have ovens.

Thanks for the info, that was kind of what I figured.
 
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RE: AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Sun Aug 30, 2015 7:24 pm

Quoting washingtonflyer (Reply 13):
I've not known any E-jet in commercial in North America to have ovens.

The OO 175s operating for Alaska have them. I thought they were going to do the same with their UA birds, but am much less sure of that.
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RE: AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:40 pm

Quoting washingtonflyer (Reply 13):
I've not known any E-jet in commercial in North America to have ovens.
Quoting doug_or (Reply 15):
The OO 175s operating for Alaska have them

doug_or is correct. The Alaska PR announcements have been touting hot meals onboard the 175s.

Quote:
The 76-seat E175 jet will feature 12 seats in first class and 64 in coach, and boasts cabin dimensions on par with a 737. Onboard amenities include Wi-Fi Internet access, streaming inflight entertainment and 110 volt power in every first class seat. Food and beverage will include hot meals and picnic packs for purchase, in addition to Northwest microbrews and wine.
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RE: AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:10 pm

As of Sunday 3:00pm AA.com still shows Skywest on all intra CA flights out of LAX, where do you see its been uploaded and shows E175 instead?
 
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RE: AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:20 pm

Quoting deltaflyertoo (Reply 17):
As of Sunday 3:00pm AA.com still shows Skywest on all intra CA flights out of LAX, where do you see its been uploaded and shows E175 instead?

At aa.com I am seeing LAX to Fresno and Sacramento fully converted to Compass after Nov 5.
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RE: AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Mon Aug 31, 2015 12:08 am

As far as PHX goes, OO is going to be at I believe 13 or 14 CR2s by the end of September (Currently at 11 CR2s and 2 CR9s plus a generic CR2 spare due to MX issues with the APUs and the PHX heat).

As far as what is going to happen beyond that I am not sure.

On Sept 9th, the YV AA flying out of LAX is done I believe and the LAX-PHX routes become US flights.

Looking towards November/December, I show 2 addl CR9s for YV out of PHX with two less OO CR2s. PHX was originally slated to receive Compass E75s starting in September, then November and now it looks like it is late Dec.
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RE: AA Parting Ways With SkyWest?

Mon Aug 31, 2015 4:34 am

Compass E175's for Delta have ovens thanks to Northwest. When the merger happened, Delta initially wanted to remove them due to their USSR 1300 mile meal rule but of course that has changed.

At last check ex-Mesaba CM9's have ovens since they were NWA issued but the rest of the CR9 Delta Connx fleet did not.

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