Moderators: jsumali2, richierich, ua900, PanAm_DC10, hOMSaR

 
User avatar
TK787
Topic Author
Posts: 4475
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

Turkish Aviation September 2015

Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:04 pm

Hello Aviation Fans,
September already ???
Where did all the summer days go?
I guess everyone is busy working and enjoying the summer. My summer has been really busy. In the last month I have traveled US domestic with all these airlines; DL, AA, UA, US and this week WN for work. You seem to forget how noisy MD88s and ERJ145s can be.


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Mehmet Mustafa Celik - SpotTR



On with the Turkish Aviation News and recap:
-Above is the new TK Long Haul interiors. Same with A333s I flew lately. I like the material and the color of the seats and the new bigger screens with the new entertainment software. I wonder if this will be applied to the rest of the fleet?
-Winter 2016 TK 's IST-CPT becomes 343 instead of 333.
-TK announced a profit of 1B TL for the first half of 2015
-TK's IST-KUL going from 7 to 10 weekly
-A333 damaged at Khartoum is a write off??
-Rumors galore; TK to start IST-BOG-PTY-IST Feb16 3 x W with 77W. And now this, IST-SYD (with one stop?)
-TK to get 2 more 77Ws this month.
-Borajet to get 3 more E195s bringing the number up to 14 Ejets.
-I probably bought my last Comfort class JFK-IST ticket for Sept. My next flight in Nov15, I had to choose between 3 x A333 daily TK flights and no more Comfort  

Please continue with your news, rumors, photos... Thanks for visiting.
 
User avatar
OA260
Posts: 24271
Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:50 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:26 am

Thanks for a new thread TK787

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
Where did all the summer days go?

Indeed very chilly here this morning in Ireland.

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
And now this, IST-SYD (with one stop?)

Its certainly interesting and would fill a gap in the network. Add a great option from many markets too.

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
no more Comfort

Its a shame that product is going. It really was quite decent.
 
mxp
Posts: 485
Joined: Thu Aug 28, 2003 8:50 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:36 am

Thx for another thread
yesterday evening i flown BRU IST and we left 30 minutes late for traffic in IST and then had around 30 minutes holding point
I am agree the IST is full.
Tomorrow i will fly business VKO IST MXP cant wait
Alberto
 
User avatar
viasa
Posts: 1476
Joined: Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:29 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:42 am

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-A333 damaged at Khartoum is a write off??

AFAIK it was in Kathmandu...  

But has someone more information about the status for this frame (TC-JOC, cn 1522)?
 
User avatar
TK787
Topic Author
Posts: 4475
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:21 am

Quoting viasa (Reply 3):
Kathmandu

Wow, was that the doing of auto correct?? Thanks for catching that.
The latest news suggested that it is going to be a write off. After engines being removed and teams figured out that the repairs could top over $100M. Such a shame.
 
User avatar
PW100
Posts: 4112
Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2002 9:17 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:25 pm

Not sure if this was already shown here - I must admit that I do not closely follow all the Turkish Aviation monthly threads.

Anyway, rather impressive (and for some very depressive) video on the * MASSIVE * ground works for the new Istanbul airport.
http://www.theecologist.org/siteimage/scale/800/600/395653.png

Video
Airport works from 1:38.

Article from The Ecologist.

Rgds,
PW100
Immigration officer: "What's the purpose of your visit to the USA?" Spotter: "Shooting airliners with my Canon!"
 
User avatar
TK787
Topic Author
Posts: 4475
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:15 pm

Quoting PW100 (Reply 5):
rather impressive (and for some very depressive) video on the * MASSIVE * ground works

Thanks for sharing.
I know the area. I happened to work there for about a month 7 years ago. I remember rolling hills, sunflower fields, small villages. It is going to change for ever.
 
User avatar
TK105
Posts: 598
Joined: Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:40 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 01, 2015 7:52 pm

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):

Thanks. It is nice to welcome cool days as evening temperatures in Ankara is already below 15 degrees Celcius.

Quoting PW100 (Reply 5):

This is indeed a dramatic (for locals also travmatic) story. But there is more to this. Around 3000 trucks are working 24 hours a day in 2 shifts. Quite a number of the drivers are from SE Asia. Deathly accidents are happening frequently. Sometimes it takes hours or days for others to realize a deathly accident occured due to extremely large scale of the project. I was told about a recent accident where it was only discovered 24 hr later when the truck did not show up for refuel and/or driver change for a long time. They discovered that the truck with its driver had been sunken in the lake while it had been unloading its load in to the lake.
The future is in the skies.
 
User avatar
Miami
Posts: 6163
Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:37 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Fri Sep 04, 2015 6:58 pm

TC-LJB delivery flight has been canceled.
Aviation is proof that given, the will, we have the capacity to achieve the impossible. - Eddie Rickenbacker
 
User avatar
OA260
Posts: 24271
Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:50 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Fri Sep 04, 2015 7:51 pm

Ellinair announced new route from 24/09. SKG-ADB twice weekly.


http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/Screen%20Shot%202015-09-04%20at%2020.45.06_zpseg7bsmf6.jpg

http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/Screen%20Shot%202015-09-04%20at%2020.43.36_zpsa0ko39p9.jpg


It is part of a joint scheme between the two cities to increase tourism. So far it is planned to run until March with increases depending on demand after that.
 
TKA380
Posts: 164
Joined: Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:05 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:36 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 8):
TC-LJB

When is it re-scheduled for then?
I also believe TC-LJC is due this month too, if not delayed.
 
User avatar
Miami
Posts: 6163
Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:37 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:45 pm

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 10):
When is it re-scheduled for then?

Might try tomorrow.
Aviation is proof that given, the will, we have the capacity to achieve the impossible. - Eddie Rickenbacker
 
User avatar
TK787
Topic Author
Posts: 4475
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Sat Sep 05, 2015 4:15 pm

New Star livery for TK:
http://www.trfleetnews.com/new-star-alliance-livery/

Also US state department warning for travel to Turkey:
Turkey Travel Warning Issued By State Department (by Sooner787 Sep 3 2015 in Aviation Polls)
 
777way
Posts: 6457
Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:38 am

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:14 pm

Whats the candle like thing at 10.20 in here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0icTQlztIA
 
User avatar
LAXintl
Posts: 24508
Joined: Wed May 24, 2000 12:12 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:32 pm

Little candle like flickering light.
Provides nice touch and cabin ambiance particularly when cabin lights are dimmed.

http://theluxtraveller.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/candle.jpg

=
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
 
777way
Posts: 6457
Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:38 am

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:57 pm

Nice, but do they serve meals in dimmed cabins at night? and this was put out in broad daylight.
 
thaiflyer
Posts: 349
Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2007 6:55 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:19 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 15):

Just a nice gesture which they place on your table during dinner.
During night flights they often leave them around the cabin to create some atmosphere.
 
LLA001
Posts: 215
Joined: Sun May 08, 2005 7:36 am

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Mon Sep 07, 2015 7:38 am

Turkish Aviation finally met with Periscope App,

A Passenger flying from İstanbul to İzmir with TK, began to stream live footage of the flight with this App and the title he had for the stream was " Live bomb at the airplane " , someone watching the live stream notified the authorities and when the airplane landed at İzmir, plane was pulled to a secure area where they searched the airplane for bombs and arrested the passenger.

Apparently " Live bomb at the airplane " phrase was a pun referring to the beautiful flight attendant instead of an actual bomb.

oh boy . . .

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/gundem/30000638.asp
 
User avatar
ankaraflyjet
Posts: 478
Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:34 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:42 am

Royal Jordanian from 25OCT15 intends to resume Amman – Ankara route, a route it suspended for 9.5 years. The airline currently proposed Embraer E195 operation, with 3 weekly flights. Reservation for this route is currently unavailable.

RJ161 AMM1025 – 1225ESB E95 47
RJ161 AMM1215 – 1415ESB E95 2

RJ162 ESB1310 – 1500AMM E95 47
RJ162 ESB1545 – 1735AMM E95 2
 
User avatar
OA260
Posts: 24271
Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:50 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:46 am

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 18):
Royal Jordanian from 25OCT15 intends to resume Amman – Ankara route, a route it suspended for 9.5 years. The airline currently proposed Embraer E195 operation, with 3 weekly flights. Reservation for this route is currently unavailable.

Nice to see them do this route and on the E Jet too.  
 
User avatar
ankaraflyjet
Posts: 478
Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:34 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:51 am

Quoting OA260 (Reply 19):

Yes, ESB is expanding rapidly for Eastern network expansion but still European flights are limited. The international pax growth as of end of August is 10% for this year, not bad at all. The airport will pass 12 million pax for 2015 looks like, considering it was less than 10 m two years ago or less than 5 million 10 years ago, great progress.

With RJ coming in and daily QR flights now ESB has now two One World carriers and BA is needed urgently to reinstate ESB LHR...
 
Turkish350XWB
Posts: 487
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:23 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:59 am

New pax numbers are out.

IST Sep14-Aug15: 60.510.023 (first time passes 60 million pax!)
SAW Sep14-Aug15: 26.444.071
 
User avatar
TK105
Posts: 598
Joined: Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:40 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 08, 2015 12:50 pm

So DHMI published August 2015 pax numbers. Results are interesting:

(first 8 months)

IST : +9%
SAW : +19% (+23% dom)
ESB : +9% (+10% intl)
ADB : +10% (+13% dom, 0% intl)
AYT : -2% (+11% dom, -6% intl)

Turkey : +9.2%

Notes:
- SAW shall not only become biggest domestic terminal in 2016 but most probably become 2nd biggest airport in Turkey, passing AYT in 2015.
- TK keeps the double digit growth at around 10 to 11%
- Pegasus also keeps the double digit growth rate
- Against TK's and Pegasus' Istanbul centric international growth planning, ESB proves its value with 10% international traffic increase

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 20):
Yes, ESB is expanding rapidly for Eastern network expansion but still European flights are limited. The international pax growth as of end of August is 10% for this year, not bad at all. The airport will pass 12 million pax for 2015 looks like, considering it was less than 10 m two years ago or less than 5 million 10 years ago, great progress.

Against TK and Pegasus, ESB proves that it can do it.

On thursday, I will fly to DXB via DOH on QR. Avoiding IST hell and flying eastwards directly from ESB is priceless (by the way, I say priceless but actually price is half compared to TK or EK via IST). Moreover QR's flight times are excellent.
The future is in the skies.
 
emrecan
Posts: 845
Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2000 7:20 am

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:44 pm

Quoting TK105 (Reply 22):

If the fare of QR is half of TK and EK, it means that route does not perform well. I am afraid ESB is still far to get direct flights from Europe.
 
User avatar
TK105
Posts: 598
Joined: Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:40 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 08, 2015 6:58 pm

Quoting emrecan (Reply 23):

Huuh.. What is the relation between QR ESB eastward flights and ESB Europe direct flights? I'll further comment on your post once I'm back in a week, after experiencing the route both ways.
The future is in the skies.
 
emrecan
Posts: 845
Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2000 7:20 am

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:50 pm

Quoting TK105 (Reply 24):

If ESB was a destination with a demand you think, there would already be direct flights since now. You cannot find any reason other than the lack of demand for the carriers like BA or LH not flying direct to ESB.
 
User avatar
ankaraflyjet
Posts: 478
Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:34 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:29 am

Quoting emrecan (Reply 25):

LH is flying twice daily to ESB just so you know and the flighst are daily since 1970..the load factoras are quite high for two daily yearround A321 ESB MUC rotations,

BA has slot issues at LHR as you know and not that they do not want to ignore ESB but are restricted in continental European expansion with slot restrictions exLHR for a number of years now. Also BA has very high competiton by TK on UK Turkey traffic with TK's supeiror product in the market so the issue is not solely ESB having no potential. BA and LH has slot issues at IST as well...

The pax numbers are growing significantly at ESB and the daily IST ESB rotations now see more than 4 wide body a/c with 777 and 330 that carry more than half transit pax.

ESB needs some key routes to be served directly at once being LHR (or LGW but not STN), AMS, BRU, DUS, FCO (by AZ), CDG (or ORY), ZRH,

On Eastern routes DXB will be the next I think why EK could not do this is becasue of their being a sole widebody operator. If EK will introduce the route they may consider traingle routes or DXB ESB SAW ESB DXB to start with I guess or do DXB ESB ADB ESB DXB on some days to capture more Turkish pax eventually...
 
User avatar
LAXintl
Posts: 24508
Joined: Wed May 24, 2000 12:12 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:51 am

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 26):
On Eastern routes DXB will be the next I think why EK could not do this is becasue of their being a sole widebody operator. If EK will introduce the route they may consider traingle routes or DXB ESB SAW ESB DXB to start with I guess or do DXB ESB ADB ESB DXB on some days to capture more Turkish pax eventually...

ESB would be a good FlyDubai type market. I know FZ visited Adana and Antalya last winter though I dont know if the Turkey-UAE bilateral has room for such additional flights.

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 26):
BA has slot issues at LHR as you know and not that they do not want to ignore ESB but are restricted in continental European expansion with slot restrictions exLHR for a number of years now.

If BA felt there was enough money in Ankara they would find the slots by shuffling their network. Every year they are adding new routes from LHR.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
 
User avatar
ankaraflyjet
Posts: 478
Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:34 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Wed Sep 09, 2015 2:16 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 27):

Yes you are right and I am sure they will reinstate ESB LHR at one time again. It has been on and off a number of times before, it would be good for businessman like me really, I do YVR ESB at least once almost bi monthly and YVR-LHR-ESB would cut my travel time to from 21 hours to 15 hours....

I am usually doing YVR-YYZ-IST-ESB almost 23 hours door to door...YVR-IST-ESB would be cool but no YVR IST yet  (
 
emrecan
Posts: 845
Joined: Thu Feb 03, 2000 7:20 am

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Wed Sep 09, 2015 7:16 am

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 28):

We should tell BA to fly direct to ESB for ankaraflyjet  
 
User avatar
KarelXWB
Posts: 26968
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:13 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Wed Sep 09, 2015 1:28 pm

The next A330-200 is ready to join the fleet:

Quote:
Airbus A330 -223 939 TC-LNB Turkish Airlines in Star Alliance cs at IST 05sep15 prior introduction to service ex D-ALAB

History of the airframe:

http://www.planespotters.net/airfram...s/A330/939/TC-LNB-Turkish-Airlines
What we leave behind is not as important as how we've lived.
 
TKA380
Posts: 164
Joined: Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:05 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Wed Sep 09, 2015 3:39 pm

News are reporting that 59 foreign THY pilots have left in the past 6 months due to recent weakness of the Turkish Lira (which they are paid in). Would a Dollar or Euro salary not be more suitable for expats?
 
User avatar
LAXintl
Posts: 24508
Joined: Wed May 24, 2000 12:12 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Wed Sep 09, 2015 4:19 pm

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 31):
News are reporting that 59 foreign THY pilots have left in the past 6 months due to recent weakness of the Turkish Lira (which they are paid in). Would a Dollar or Euro salary not be more suitable for expats?

If you pay local and foreign pilots very differently you will have even more division in between them.

The whole idea of having near 800 foreign pilots was a bit of a cultural issue so treating them uniquely, and outside of the existing pilot union agreement would be even more problematic.

In good news however, THY has had good luck in recruiting pilots from other nations that have their own currency weaknesses such as from CIS, Greece, and various African and Far East nations.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
 
User avatar
OA260
Posts: 24271
Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:50 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Thu Sep 10, 2015 11:49 am

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 31):
News are reporting that 59 foreign THY pilots have left in the past 6 months due to recent weakness of the Turkish Lira (which they are paid in). Would a Dollar or Euro salary not be more suitable for expats?

They may need to look at paying them in USD/EUR . Im not sure how native Turkish pilots would react to this though. Quite a few Greek pilots who would no doubt be better paid in Euro than a very weak TRY.

It keeps falling .


ANKARA

The Turkish lira fell to a record low against the dollar in early morning trading on Thursday.

The lira briefly dropped to 3.0610, but then climbed back to levels around 3.045 after 8 a.m. local time (0500GMT).

http://www.aa.com.tr/en/economy/5904...ira-hits-record-low-against-dollar


Its good for would be tourists though and with a reduction in tourism figures and concern over recent events it might attract a few more.


In other news and not sure if it was posted before but from 25/10 TK will increase IST-TLV from 49 to 56 per week.
 
TKA380
Posts: 164
Joined: Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:05 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:42 pm

The exchange rate is 4.68 TRY now against the British Pound, not good at all - but for foreigners it's perfect for a bit of shopping. Get booking your flights to Turkey.
 
User avatar
OA260
Posts: 24271
Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:50 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Thu Sep 10, 2015 6:48 pm

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 34):
The exchange rate is 4.68 TRY now against the British Pound,

Lets hope it stays that way for my trip later in the year  
 
User avatar
TK105
Posts: 598
Joined: Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:40 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:25 am

Greetings from DXB.

As I also mentioned above, for the first time I did ESB-DOH-DXB with QR. I would like to share with you my experience:

Daily DOH-ESB-DOH flights have an interesting feature: Flights leaving DOH early in the morning and leaving ESB in the evening have very good loads due to connections to Far East and Australia. But flights leaving DOH in the afternoon and leaving ESB in the afternoon are not so loaded. As a result, each flight is full on one leg, and half full on the other leg. I'm lucky that I can always fly the half full legs which actually provides excellent connection times to DXB. This also explains the reason my ticket is cheap.

The real surprise was my connection flight to DXB, QR1014: It was on a 787-8, my first flight on this type. It was a 2 year old plane (A7-BCE) and all in all I really liked the type. It is as quiet as an A320 and though it is 9 abreast, it felt very comfortable. Moreover its large windows provides very good outside viewing.

But hey, surprises never ends. As we taxied to take off, I was watching activities and new Doha Airport from my window seat. Finally we were number one for take off and was waiting for the landing traffic. I could see the approaching plane to our run way, it was very close by. But suddenly our plane jumped on to run way. I was shocked. I even closed my eyes. Luckily I was not the only one to see this: Our plane quickly made to nearest exit and left the run way. But it was too late and the approaching plane aborted its lending and went for a go around as I could see it flied shortly above us. I was so nervous obviously thinking that even my mother-in-law could drive a car better! After circling taxi ways one more time, we took off uneventfully and landed to DXB without issues though traffic was heavy as usual.

I checked what has happened on FR24 database (simply go to database for DOH, 10-Sep-2015, 18:20 UTC). The plane that did a go around was Jet Airways 9W 556 / JA 1556 (VT-JBE B738). Woowww....  
The future is in the skies.
 
User avatar
TK787
Topic Author
Posts: 4475
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Fri Sep 11, 2015 3:01 pm

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 28):
I am usually doing YVR-YYZ-IST-ESB almost 23 hours door to door.
Quoting TK105 (Reply 36):

Thanks for the short TR. Sounds existing, to say the least  

Looks like this time it is for real; -LJB TK's latest 77W will be on its delivery flight:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/THY6900
and the next one -LJC is getting a paint jobs these days.
 
User avatar
KarelXWB
Posts: 26968
Joined: Sun Jul 15, 2012 6:13 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:08 am

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 10):
When is it re-scheduled for then?
I also believe TC-LJC is due this month too, if not delayed.

TC-LJB was delivered three days ago.

Quote:
Boeing 777 -3F2 44124 1331 TC-LJB Turkish Airlines delivery 11sep15 PAE-IST


TC-LJB Turkish Airlines Boeing 777-300 - C/N 44124 / LN 1331 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr
What we leave behind is not as important as how we've lived.
 
wing
Posts: 1366
Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2000 9:10 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:05 pm

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 31):
News are reporting that 59 foreign THY pilots have left in the past 6 months due to recent weakness of the Turkish Lira (which they are paid in). Would a Dollar or Euro salary not be more suitable for expats?
Quoting OA260 (Reply 33):
They may need to look at paying them in USD/EUR . Im not sure how native Turkish pilots would react to this though. Quite a few Greek pilots who would no doubt be better paid in Euro than a very weak TRY.

It keeps falling .

These are fake news, most probably created by the pilot recruitment agencies to force the company pay more to their clients or create excuse for the expats to be paid in foreign crrencies.The fact is almost 200 foreign pilots joined THY since the last yaer.

I have never heard any of the expat pilots who are unhappy of his working condition in Turkey.The Turkish lira weakens against the Euro/Us dolar effecting everybody in the country,not only expats.Everything is almost 30% more expensive here compared to this time last year and it is the same for Turkish pilots(and people).So paying only expats in Euro is unacceptable.Ofcours the doors are open for anyone who is not happy and wants to leave.
follow me on my facebook page" captain wing's journey log"
 
1g
Posts: 194
Joined: Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:43 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:06 pm

Quoting wing (Reply 39):
These are fake news

Can you please elaborate on this, in the sense how do you know these news are fake?

I read 59 pilots quitting their jobs from pretty reputable news sources in Turkey (Although the reputability of even the largest news sources can be debated these days). Hurriyet, Haberturk and Airporthaber being some of them.

[Edited 2015-09-14 12:07:37]
 
User avatar
TK105
Posts: 598
Joined: Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:40 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:09 pm

I'm back to ESB with QR. Again on the return leg I had a fantastic trip and really liked the pieceful New Doha Airport.. Loads were better towards ESB and interestingly business class was totally full.

I also had some time to discuss with different people from Turkish Expats about their experience and most people are complaining about TK due to expensive fares, which is mostly higher compared to EK. As a result they try to use QR,FZ, G9 or Pegasus especially when traveling with family.

Another interesting idea popped up during these discussions was about Sharjah, SHJ. As you may know, DXB is in the middle of Dubai and 2-3km to Sharjah. SHJ is closer to Dubai then DWC. Moreover many people prefer to stay in Sharjah instead of Dubai due to lower rental costs. As a result, for many people SHJ is a very good alternative to DXB. We all know that TK and DHMI will not extend Dubai-Turkey bilateral to protect TK. However Sharjah-Turkey probably have a separate bilateral as G9 flies daily to SAW and 3w to AYT. TK can benefit from this agreement and fly SHJ to crate a back door to DXB market while stoping EK.

My wish is as follows: TK can fly minimum daily IST-SHJ and 3w ESB-SHJ (as much as bilateral permits). I'm sure these flights will be full from day 1. Businesses in Ankara will benefit a lot from such a flight.

By the way, I heard that due to demand for flight between ESB-Moscow, TK is now considering a second daily flight.
The future is in the skies.
 
TKA380
Posts: 164
Joined: Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:05 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:18 pm

 
User avatar
Miami
Posts: 6163
Joined: Sat Sep 15, 2012 8:37 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:50 pm

I heard TK will have a 77W in a special livery for their MIA inaugural (like SFO). Can't wait to see it!
Aviation is proof that given, the will, we have the capacity to achieve the impossible. - Eddie Rickenbacker
 
atal17
Posts: 447
Joined: Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:56 am

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:15 am

TK increases Tel Aviv to 9 daily flights (8 IST + 1 SAW)

The new TLV flights connect well to TK's North America/Europe bank of departures, bolsters their presence on the Israel-USA market.

TK864 IST1910 – 2115TLV 321 D
TK865 TLV0900 – 1120IST 321 D

Source:- airlineroute.net
 
User avatar
TK787
Topic Author
Posts: 4475
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:51 pm

Quoting atal17 (Reply 44):

I wonder if Elal will be back anytime soon to IST?
 
wing
Posts: 1366
Joined: Sun Oct 01, 2000 9:10 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 15, 2015 5:33 pm

Quoting 1g (Reply 40):
Can you please elaborate on this, in the sense how do you know these news are fake?

I work in there and the people who are said to be left are still there  
follow me on my facebook page" captain wing's journey log"
 
Turkish777X
Posts: 376
Joined: Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:38 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:24 pm

Quoting atal17 (Reply 44):

TK864 IST1910 – 2115TLV 321 D
TK865 TLV0900 – 1120IST 321 D

9h on the ground, really???
 
TKA380
Posts: 164
Joined: Thu Oct 02, 2014 10:05 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:53 pm

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 47):

It's closer to 12h on the ground. I don't quite understand that, plus crew will have to be accommodated. There are so many flights coming and going back to IST while this aircraft would be on the ground.

There's even a TLVIST flight at 9:50am, just 50 minutes later. With that said, it certainly works very well connecting from/to MAN (which I checked), and I am sure it will for other Europe routes.
 
User avatar
mercure1
Posts: 4755
Joined: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:13 am

RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:28 am

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 48):
I don't quite understand that

You guys are missing the point. With a dense schedule, all you see is the added frequency but not the aircraft turn sequence. Its almost certainly FIFO principle, so no that frame does not need to site in TLV that long.
mercure f-wtcc

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos