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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:10 am

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 42):

Interesting to see a codeshare arrangement between a One World and Star* member.

RJ is reinstating AMM ESB AMM thrice weekly on October 25th. Pegasus was awarded the exclusive right to operate the route for a term of one year by Turkish CAA (Among the Turkey registered Airlines) at least between ESB and AMM and yet to disclose the schedules.

I wonder in this case if TK will be able to extend the codeshare agreement to include ESB AMM that could benefit TK.

Pegasus also got the exclusive right to operate ESB GYD ESB where Azerbaijan Airlines provide direct flights and TK codeshares...so may be a similar situation there too...

It is also intersting to see international airlines reinstating direct services to/from ESB yet TK elects to codeshare rather than competing...strangely TK does not codeshare Star * like LH with 2 daily ESB MUC but does any other, weard....So TK should codeshare with QR on the ESB DOH witht the same mentality I guess...
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Wed Sep 16, 2015 7:41 am

Quoting TK105 (Reply 41):

Thanks, nice report.

When I say in this site that ESB has premium pax potential everybody attacks me. Your report confirms my argument.

I am a businessman and fly to ESB from North America and Europe frequently. I have never seen an empty Business cabin on flights to ESB but I have seen empty cabin almost a couple o ftimes on flights to IST...When BA operated LHR IST ESB usually 90% of the Business class went onwards to ESB and likewise when AF operated CDG-IST-ESB once I remember the Business Cabin was full and not even one pax left at IST...It was a A310 and was replaced by A320 later on..

Good to hear that TK is considering a second daily Ankara Moscow, woow Aeroflot operated this route from 1956 until mid 90ies with twice weekly Ankara Moscow for over 40 years, they should be going mad to see this....what a change in traffic trends over the years....

Writing this as I flew ESB IST YYZ SEA by AC yesterday and ESB IST was a TK operated and AC marketed codeshare flight, again we had good 9 pax from Business class made it to AC in IST, that is almost half the C class cabin of TK 738 on ESB IST plus some other Y class pax that I could not count...By the way among the 28 Business Class pax on IST YYZ, the cabin was full, 9 from ESB, around 5 from DXB as I could see from their duty free bags so almost more than half from outside IST,

TK should think about a North America service from ESB seriously, may be Newark would be better than JFK actually....given that the route would need Star* connections onward to other North American destinations..Triangle route to include IAD could also be considered like ESB-NYC-IAD-NYC-ESB.

I am going to suggest AC to to extend YYZ IST to ESB on certain days of the week as YYZ is located N of US destinations and is a great market for offering US connections with US customs and immigation pre-clearance advantage..TK would go nuts if this happens, as a Director of Turkish Canadian Business Council I will try to push this as I am somewhat hopeless on TK doing anything from ESB. By the way AC is doing quite good on Turkey flights that is the only North American airline with year-round service to IST now as DL is seasonal and UA suspended IST.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Wed Sep 16, 2015 8:39 am

YB is launching yearround thrice weekly ESB MUC ESB and one weekly ESB CGN ESB as of 25 October....
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Wed Sep 16, 2015 2:35 pm

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 51):
When I say in this site that ESB has premium pax potential everybody attacks me. Your report confirms my argument.

Some random personal anecdotal evidence does not confirm anything.   

The proof is instead in the numbers - the actual statistics in passenger demand flows and pricing data which still indicates ESB is a smallish market and generates lower yields compared so market like IST.

Like many have said here before - airlines go where the money is. If Ankara was such a wonderful market airlines would be tripping over each other to serve it.
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:34 pm

Nice idea for ESB-EWR, but surely if there was that much demand for the States then BA would start a flight to LHR connecting onto their US network which is quite large.

They will be competing with their own flight via IST, LH via MUC and even Scandinavian. Why feed UA when they can get the passengers all the way to LAX (for example - or as near to the final destination) on their own flight.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Wed Sep 16, 2015 3:57 pm

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 50):
Interesting to see a codeshare arrangement between a One World and Star* member.

Outside alliance code-shares happen all the time.

For example in France - AF has long codeshared with Japan Airlines and Finnair in OW and now even Etihad while at the same time they complain about ME3 carriers.

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 51):
When I say in this site that ESB has premium pax potential everybody attacks me. Your report confirms my argument.

Its pretty interesting you keep arguing the same point over and over when the statistics prove otherwise.

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 51):
By the way among the 28 Business Class pax on IST YYZ, the cabin was full, 9 from ESB, around 5 from DXB as I could see from their duty free bags so almost more than half from outside IST,

Clearly helps that AC has TK at their side and feeds them clients.

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 51):
TK should think about a North America service from ESB seriously, may be Newark would be better than JFK actually

Why would TK open new longhaul market from ESB that it does not even serve from IST  

Makes no sense. Also TK-UA really don't do much of anything so just dumping passengers at EWR is not going to be helpful.
If TK ever returns to EWR (remember they dropped the route to concentrate on JFK), it will be from IST not ESB.

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 51):
I am going to suggest AC to to extend YYZ IST to ESB on certain days

AC does not operate such tag flight in their network, in addition the AC IST schedule barely has enough time for turnaround back to YYZ in order to make YYZ hub bank timings let alone add a tag to ESB.

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 51):
By the way AC is doing quite good on Turkey flights that is the only North American airline with year-round service

Well you just mentioned bulk of the premium cabin was filled by connection traffic. Not necessarily anything to do with Turkey. It certainly helps AC they have codeshare and partnership with TK that helps fill their flights.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 53):
The proof is instead in the numbers - the actual statistics in passenger demand flows and pricing data which still indicates ESB is a smallish market and generates lower yields compared so market like IST.

  

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 53):
Like many have said here before - airlines go where the money is. If Ankara was such a wonderful market airlines would be tripping over each other to serve it.

  
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Wed Sep 16, 2015 9:46 pm

I noticed that the Iran Government today took delivery of an ex TK A343. That brought me to ask - does anyone know what is happening with TC-JDK & TC-JDL which are stored.

And when will the four currently in use each be withdrawn?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Thu Sep 17, 2015 9:05 am

So SAW is also reaching its limits. What is next?

http://www.airporthaber.com/wk-uploads/news/sabiha3_10.jpg
Source : Airporthaber.com
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Thu Sep 17, 2015 10:58 am

Quoting TK105 (Reply 57):

Mmmm..
I wish the new runway construction began by now. IST and SAW are becoming headaches like LGA. I wouldn't be homesick anymore  
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Thu Sep 17, 2015 12:32 pm

TC-LJC is painted now.
Here is a video of its first flight earlier. Notice the RAT (ram air turbine) deployed during landing. Pretty cool video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWO7sK17GXo
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:29 pm

Looks like soon we will see TK IST-MRU-TNR flights. I'm very happy to hear this as probably I was the first one to suggest this flight here on a.net.

Here is the official announcement of Goverment of Mauritius:

http://www.govmu.org/English/News/Pa...on-Antananarivo-via-Mauritius.aspx
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Sun Sep 20, 2015 2:16 pm

Quoting TK105 (Reply 60):

Why TK didn't announce this route? According to this article flights should begin next month and there is no announcement, no advertisement..
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Mon Sep 21, 2015 5:23 pm

@LAXintl

It would be very kind to see your fleet list of TK. Thank you!

@all

3 questions:

1) Can anybody confirm me that the owner of 25 oldest B737-800 (Delivery 1998 - 2002, TC-JFC until TC-JGF) is TK, so these 25 are not leased (Wet Lease, Financial Lease)?

2) Is TC-JGG and TC-JGI (both B737-800) wet-leased? If yes, which is the lessor?
TK has written they have 10 wet-leased B738 but I found just 8. I would make sense if this two are wet-leased.

3) According to Anadolujet.com there are 3 B737-700 left. Has TC-SBB (not flying according to fr24.com) left the fleet?

Thanks to all for help.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:37 pm

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 62):
It would be very kind to see your fleet list of TK. Thank you!

Here you are..

REG / TYPE / CODE / MSN / SEATS / ENGINE
TC-JDM A340-311 343 115 270 CFM56-5C2
TC-JDN A340-313 340 180 270 CFM56-5C4
TC-JIH A340-313 340 270 270 CFM56-5C4
TC-JII A340-313 340 331 270 CFM56-5C4
TC-JNA A330-203 332 697 250 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JNB A330-203 332 704 250 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JNC A330-203 332 742 250 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JND A330-203 332 754 250 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JNE A330-203 332 774 250 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JNF A330-203 33R 463 281 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JNG A330-203 33R 504 281 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JIL A330-203 33J 882 220 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JIM A330-203 33J 901 220 CF6-80E1A4
TC-JIN A330-203 33J 932 220 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JIO A330-223 33A 869 223 PW4168A
TC-JIP A330-223 33A 876 223 PW4168A
TC-JIR A330-223 33A 949 223 PW4168A
TC-JIS A330-223 33A 961 223 PW4168A
TC-JIT A330-223 33A 977 223 PW4168A
TC-JIV A330-223 33A 1213 223 PW4168A
TC-JIY A330-223 33A 1221 223 PW4168A
TC-JIZ A330-223 33A 1118 223 PW4168A
TC-LNA A330-223 33T 874 269 PW4168A
TC-JNH A330-343 333 1150 289 RR TRENT772B-60
TC-JNI A330-343 333 1160 289 RR TRENT772B-60
TC-JNJ A330-343 333 1170 289 RR TRENT772B-60
TC-JNK A330-343 333 1172 289 RR TRENT772B-60
TC-JNL A330-343 333 1204 289 RR TRENT772B-60
TC-JNM A330-343 333 1212 289 RR TRENT772B-60
TC-JNN A330-343 333 1228 289 RR TRENT772B-60
TC-JNO A330-343 333 1298 289 RR TRENT772B-60
TC-JNP A330-343 333 1307 289 RR TRENT772B-60
TC-JNR A330-343 333 1311 289 RR TRENT772B-60
TC-JNS A330-303 333 1458 289 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JNT A330-303 333 1476 289 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JNZ A330-303 333 1487 289 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JOA A330-303 333 1501 289 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JOB A330-303 333 1514 289 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JOC A330-303 333 1522 289 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JOD A330-303 333 1529 289 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JOE A330-303 333 1571 289 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JOF A330-303 333 1616 289 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JOG A330-303 333 1620 289 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JOH A330-303 333 1622 289 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JOI A330-303 333 1629 289 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JOJ A330-303 333 1640 289 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JOK A330-303 333 1642 289 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JOL A-330-303 333 1644 289 CF6-80E1A3
TC-JOM A330-302 33L 1499 291 CF6-80E1A4
TC-JDO A330-243F 33X 1004 Freighter RR TRENT772B-60
TC-JDP A330-243F 33Y 1092 Freighter RR TRENT772B-60
TC-JDR A330-243F 33Y 1344 Freighter RR TRENT772B-60
TC-JDS A330-243F 33Y 1418 Freighter RR TRENT772B-60
TC-JCI A330-243F 33Y 1442 Freighter RR TRENT772B-60
TC-JOU A330-243F 33Y 1550 Freighter RR TRENT772B-60
TC-JLM A319-132 319 2738 132 IAE V2524-A5
TC-JLN A319-132 319 2739 132 IAE V2524-A5
TC-JLO A319-132 319 2631 132 IAE V2524-A5
TC-JLP A319-132 319 2655 132 IAE V2524-A5
TC-JLR A319-132 319 3142 132 IAE V2524-A5
TC-JLS A319-132 316 4629 132 IAE V2524-A5
TC-JLT A319-132 316 4665 132 IAE V2524-A5
TC-JLU A319-132 316 4695 132 IAE V2524-A5
TC-JLV A319-132 316 4755 132 IAE V2524-A5
TC-JLY A319-132 316 4774 132 IAE V2524-A5
TC-JLZ A319-132 316 4790 132 IAE V2524-A5
TC-JUA A319-132 31H 2404 132 IAE V2524-A5
TC-JUB A319-132 31H 2414 132 IAE V2524-A5
TC-JUD A319-132 31H 2452 132 IAE V2524-A5
TC-JPA A320-232 320 2609 159 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JPB A320-232 320 2626 159 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JPC A320-232 320 2928 159 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JPD A320-232 320 2934 159 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JPE A320-232 320 2941 159 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JPF A320-232 320 2984 159 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JPG A320-232 320 3010 159 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JPH A320-232 320 3185 159 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JPI A320-232 320 3208 159 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JPJ A320-232 320 3239 159 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JPK A320-232 320 3257 159 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JPL A320-232 320 3303 159 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JPM A320-232 320 3341 159 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JPN A320-232 320 3558 159 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JPO A320-232 320 3567 159 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JPP A320-232 320 3603 159 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JPR A320-232 320 3654 159 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JPS A320-232 320 3718 159 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JPT A320-232 320 3719 159 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JPU A320-214 32C 3896 150 CFM56-5B4/3
TC-JPV A320-214 32C 3931 150 CFM56-5B4/3
TC-JPY A320-214 32C 3949 150 CFM56-5B4/3
TC-JAI A320-232 32G 3259 150 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JBI A320-232 32G 3308 150 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JUE A320-232 32P 2156 162 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JUF A320-232 32P 2164 162 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JUG A320-232 32P 2395 162 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JUI A320-232 32P 2401 162 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JUJ A320-232 32D 2522 150 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JUK A320-232 32P 2602 162 IAE V2527-A5
TC-JRA A321-231 321 2823 194 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRB A321-231 321 2868 194 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRC A321-231 321 2999 194 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRD A321-231 321 3015 194 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRE A321-231 321 3126 194 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRF A321-231 321 3207 194 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRG A321-231 321 3283 194 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRH A321-231 321 3350 194 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRI A321-231 321 3405 194 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRJ A321-231 321 3429 194 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRK A321-231 321 3525 194 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRL A321-231 321 3539 194 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRM A321-231 32R 4643 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRN A321-231 32R 4654 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRO A321-231 32R 4682 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRP A321-231 32R 4698 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRR A321-231 32R 4706 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRS A321-231 32R 4761 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRT A321-231 32R 4779 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRU A321-231 32R 4788 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRV A321-231 32R 5077 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRY A321-231 32R 5083 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JRZ A321-231 32R 5118 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSA A321-231 32R 5154 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSB A321-231 32R 5205 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSC A321-231 32R 5254 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSD A321-231 32R 5388 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSE A321-231 32R 5450 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSF A321-231 32R 5465 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSG A321-231 32R 5490 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSH A321-231 32R 5546 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSI A321-231 32R 5584 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSJ A321-231 32R 5633 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSK A321-231 32R 5663 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSL A321-231 32R 5667 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSM A321-231 32R 5689 180 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSN A321-231 32M 6508 178 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSO A321-231 32M 6563 178 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSP A321-231 32M 6599 178 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSR A321-231 32M 6652 178 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSS A321-231 32M 6657 178 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JST A321-231 32M 6657 178 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSU A321-231 32M 6709 178 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSV A321-231 32M 6751 178 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JSY A321-231 32M 6758 178 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JMM A321-231 32B 2916 151 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JMN A321-231 32B 2919 151 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JMH A321-231 32N 3637 178 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JMI A321-231 32N 3673 178 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JMJ A321-231 32N 3688 178 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JMK A321-231 32N 3738 178 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JML A321-231 32J 3382 194 IAE V2533-A5
TC-JFC B737-800W 78G 29765 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JFD B737-800W 78G 29766 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JFE B737-800W 78G 29767 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JFF B737-800W 78G 29768 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JFG B737-800W 78G 29769 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JFH B737-800W 738 29770 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JFI B737-800W 738 29771 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JFJ B737-800W 738 29772 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JFK B737-800W 738 29773 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JFL B737-800W 78G 29774 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JFM B737-800W 78G 29775 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JFN B737-800W 738 29776 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JFO B737-800W 738 29777 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JFP B737-800W 78G 29778 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JFR B737-800W 738 29779 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JFT B737-800W 738 29780 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JFU B737-800W 738 29781 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JFV B737-800W 78G 29782 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JFY B737-800W 78G 29783 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JFZ B737-800W 738 29784 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGA B737-800W 738 29785 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGB B737-800W 738 29786 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGC B737-800W 738 29787 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGD B737-800W 738 29788 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGF B737-800W 738 29790 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGG B737-800W 78G 34405 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGH B737-800W 738 34406 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGI B737-800W 738 34407 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGJ B737-800W 738 34408 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGK B737-800W 78G 34409 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGL B737-800W 738 34410 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGM B737-800W 78G 34411 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGN B737-800W 738 34412 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGO B737-800W 738 34413 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGP B737-800W 738 34414 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGR B737-800W 738 34415 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGS B737-800W 78G 34416 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGT B737-800W 78G 34417 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGU B737-800W 78G 34418 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGV B737-800W 78G 34419 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGY B737-800WSFP 78G 35738 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JGZ B737-800WSFP 78G 35739 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JHA B737-800WSFP 738 35740 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JHB B737-800WSFP 738 35741 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JHC B737-800WSFP 738 35742 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JHD B737-800WSFP 738 35743 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JHE B737-800WSFP 738 35744 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JHF B737-800WSFP 738 35745 165 CFM56-7B26
TC-JHK B737-800WSFP 78D 40975 151 CFM56-7B26
TC-JHL B737-800WSFP 78D 40976 151 CFM56-7B26
TC-JHM B737-800WSFP 78D 40980 151 CFM56-7B26
TC-JHN B737-800WSFP 78D 40981 151 CFM56-7B26
TC-JHO B737-800WSFP 78D 40987 151 CFM56-7B26
TC-JHP B737-800WSFP 78D 42000 151 CFM56-7B26
TC-JHR B737-800WSFP 78D 40989 151 CFM56-7B26
TC-JHS B737-800WSFP 78D 40991 151 CFM56-7B26
TC-JHT B737-800WSFP 78D 42001 151 CFM56-7B26
TC-JHU B737-800WSFP 78D 42002 151 CFM56-7B26
TC-JHV B737-800WSFP 78D 40992 151 CFM56-7B26
TC-JHY B737-800WSFP 78D 42003 151 CFM56-7B26
TC-JHZ B737-800WSFP 78D 42004 151 CFM56-7B26
TC-JVA B737-800WSFP 78D 40988 151 CFM56-7B26
TC-JVB B737-800WSFP 78D 40990 151 CFM56-7B26
TC-JVC B737-800WSFP 78D 42005 151 CFM56-7B26
TC-JVD B737-800WSFP 78D 42007 151 CFM56-7B26
TC-JVE B737-800WSFP 78D 42006 151 CFM56-7B26
TC-JVF B737-800WSFP 78D 42008 151 CFM56-7B26
TC-JVG B737-800WSFP 78D 42009 151 CFM56-7B26
TC-JYA B737-900ER 79B 40973 151 CFM56-7B27
TC-JYB B737-900ER 79B 40974 151 CFM56-7B27
TC-JYC B737-900ER 79B 40977 151 CFM56-7B27
TC-JYD B737-900ER 79B 40978 151 CFM56-7B27
TC-JYE B737-900ER 79B 40979 151 CFM56-7B27
TC-JYF B737-900ER 79B 40982 151 CFM56-7B27
TC-JYG B737-900ER 79B 40983 151 CFM56-7B27
TC-JYH B737-900ER 79B 40984 151 CFM56-7B27
TC-JYI B737-900ER 79B 40985 151 CFM56-7B27
TC-JYJ B737-900ER 79B 40986 151 CFM56-7B27
TC-JYL B737-900ER 79D 42010 169 CFM56-7B27
TC-JYM B737-900ER 79D 42011 169 CFM56-7B27
TC-JYN B737-900ER 79D 42012 169 CFM56-7B27
TC-JYO B737-900ER 79D 42013 169 CFM56-7B27
TC-JYP B737-900ER 79D 42014 169 CFM56-7B27
TC-JKJ B737-700W 73W 34297 124 CFM56-7B24
TC-JKK B737-700W 73W 34298 124 CFM56-7B24
TC-JKO B737-700W 73W 34300 124 CFM56-7B24
TC-JJE B777-300ER 77C 40707 337 GE90-115BL
TC-JJF B777-300ER 77C 40708 337 GE90-115BL
TC-JJG B777-300ER 77C 40791 337 GE90-115BL
TC-JJH B777-300ER 77C 40792 337 GE90-115BL
TC-JJI B777-300ER 77C 40709 337 GE90-115BL
TC-JJJ B777-300ER 77C 40710 337 GE90-115BL
TC-JJK B777-300ER 77C 40711 337 GE90-115BL
TC-JJL B777-300ER 77C 40793 337 GE90-115BL
TC-JJM B777-300ER 77C 40794 337 GE90-115BL
TC-JJN B777-300ER 77C 40795 337 GE90-115BL
TC-JJO B777-300ER 77C 40796 337 GE90-115BL
TC-JJP B777-300ER 77C 40797 337 GE90-115BL
TC-JJR B777-300ER 77B 44116 349 GE90-115BL
TC-JJS B777-300ER 77B 44117 349 GE90-115BL
TC-JJT B777-300ER 77B 44118 349 GE90-115BL
TC-JJU B777-300ER 77B 60401 349 GE90-115BL
TC-JJV B777-300ER 77E 44119 349 GE90-115BL
TC-JJY B777-300ER 77E 44120 349 GE90-115BL
TC-JJZ B777-300ER 77E 44122 349 GE90-115BL
TC-LJA B777-300ER 77E 44121 349 GE90-115BL
TC-LJB B777-300ER 77E 44124 349 GE90-115BL

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 62):
1) Can anybody confirm me that the owner of 25 oldest B737-800 (Delivery 1998 - 2002, TC-JFC until TC-JGF) is TK, so these 25 are not leased (Wet Lease, Financial Lease)?

They were on financial lease. They should all be owned at end of the lease term.

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 62):
2) Is TC-JGG and TC-JGI (both B737-800) wet-leased? If yes, which is the lessor?

I think you have your terms mixed up. Wet-lease means someone else operates the aircraft for you.

Maybe you are asking for dry or operating lease instead?
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:28 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 63):

Thank you very much for the list!

1) TK write in their presentation they have 25 owned B738. So that should be the oldest one's. How long is approximately an aircraft leasing? TK owned them after 12-13 years.

2) I mean opeating lease, sorry. So are these two leased from a leasing company like ALAFCO?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:56 pm

I have some friends visiting from Istanbul, seasoned travelers and they had nothing but complaints about their trip on TK from IST. 7am leave IST and breakfast was served 3 hours after takeoff, that is a rough start and they had many other complaints about cabin service. Not good   , Since I will be on TK2 tomorrow, one of my last Comfort Class flights  
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:33 pm

I'm taking my first flight with TK in February, ORD-IST-MLE and back. I'm so excited, after hearing such great things about TK. I purchased Y seats at a great fare ($1,200 r/t). I'm now trying to upgrade to Premium Y using my United miles but the website is not allowing me, probably because I got such a great deal. Would it help to call customer service? Any suggestions appreciated!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:46 pm

Quoting hrc773 (Reply 66):

Hello there,
Just to let you know TK has Premium Y only on 12 of its 77Ws and they are about to eliminate this class altogether soon.
I am not sure if you will have it on ORD-IST. Meaning I am not sure if TK sends those 12 frames to ORD.
(Just checked and looking at the last weeks flights, TK uses 2 class 77W on IST-ORD. Only J and Y, no Y+.
There is your answer.)
Most likely you will not have it on MLE, since that is a A330 route.
I would try calling TK and ask for the upgrades. If that doesn't work try to buy an upgrade before the flight or on the day of at the airport. Again, if it is one of those 12 x 77W frames. It should be around $300 one-way to upgrade from Y to Y+.

Good Luck and Bon Voyage.
 
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Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:55 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 67):
Just checked and looking at the last weeks flights, TK uses 2 class 77W on IST-ORD.

On the other hand, yesterday TK used TC-JJO on the ORD-IST route, that is a 3 class bird. It could have been a equip. swap, because all other days are showing 2 Class. So, I would still call TK and see if they could do something.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:24 pm

Thanks so much, TK787! Very disappointing to hear that I might not be able to upgrade on the 777 legs of my trip (I wasn't counting on that for the legs to MLE). I'll definitely try to call and see what I could work out. Maybe I even have enough miles for biz class; that would be great, except that their Y+ looks really nice and quite enough for me.
Thanks again!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:54 pm

You cannot use UA miles to upgade to Y+. Simple as that. UA MP does not recognize the product so there is no mechanism to do it.
And if there was it would be UA's job to do so if it was on UA ticket stock, while TK could never pull UA miles as they dont have control of them.

As far as the airport upgrade, that also could be tricky if the ticket was issued by UA. If ticket was issued by TK then yes they can sell you a day of departure upgrade on space available basis.
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Wed Sep 23, 2015 2:58 pm

Quoting hrc773 (Reply 69):

You will definitely fly with a 777 with 49 business class seats from ORD. No chance for a Y+ upgrade but business..
 
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Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:42 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 70):
You cannot use UA miles to upgade to Y+. Simple as that. UA MP does not recognize the product so there is no mechanism to do it.

Mileage Plus states that you may use MP miles for upgrading on select *A carriers, according to the website. I actually tried using their own tool to do this. The reason for not being able to upgrade was because of the fare type that I booked on; it's way too low.

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/mileageplus/awards/upgrade/default.aspx
 
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Wed Sep 23, 2015 3:45 pm

Quoting emrecan (Reply 71):
You will definitely fly with a 777 with 49 business class seats from ORD. No chance for a Y+ upgrade but business.

I'm basing my assumption that there is Y+ on this flight only by doing a search on seatguru.com. It's probably not very reliable, but when you search for a Feb. 12 departure out of ORD on TK 6, it does show a three-class aircraft.
 
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Wed Sep 23, 2015 4:05 pm

Quoting hrc773 (Reply 72):
Mileage Plus states that you may use MP miles for upgrading on select *A carriers, according to the website. I actually tried using their own tool to do this. The reason for not being able to upgrade was because of the fare type that I booked on; it's way too low.

Like I said there is no mechanism to upgrade to something that is not recognized by UA MP.

Try to get a Y+ award on any airline using MP and see how that goes.

What UA mentioned regarding upgrade is the next class of service (eg - Business) not Y+ which is still Y class as far as MP is concerned.

Quoting hrc773 (Reply 73):
Feb. 12 departure out of ORD on TK 6, it does show a three-class aircraft.

I just looked at GDS, there is no Y+ shown on such date. Also you can go to THY.com and try to book comfort class and you get a notice that its not being offered on that flight.

Assuming you have a TK issued ticket you can always try to buy upgrade to Biz at the airport.
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:38 am

Few notes on my last TK2 flight:
-TK was consistent. Check in was a breeze. Even on a full flight people still check in 3 hours earlier, so when I arrive an hour earlier I was the only one. Also TSA lines were short at 6pm JFK.
-I really like the service and offerings of Lufthansa Lounge at JFK.
-Our plane "Yildiz" was in great shape, seats/IFE worked, bathrooms kept stocked.
-19 hazelnuts were served as usual   Chicken or Cod?? Food offerings are getting smaller but I really don't care, service was good.
-For a change, there were no kids running around all night long. And we deplaned through a bridge. Passport control, picking up luggage and traffic were all pretty easy; maybe due to being the first day of Bayram.

It is going to be a shame not to be able to keep the Comfort Class for TK. I will miss it.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:28 pm

TC-LJC just delivered, the total number of 777-30ER's in the fleet is now 22.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:48 pm

TK flight in Islamabad got delayed due to bomb threat.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:45 pm

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 76):

And the 54th A321 is delivered to. Registration: TC-JTA.
I've read TC-LJB got the Name "Ayasofya".
 
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Wed Sep 30, 2015 5:50 am

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 76):
TC-LJC just delivered, the total number of 777-30ER's in the fleet is now 22.
Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 78):
And the 54th A321 is delivered

It is incredible. When we started these threads, the TK fleet was around 100 frames.
Congragulations to TK still growing.

Check out this annual report from 2006:
http://www.turkishairlines.com/download/thy_annualreport2006_en.pdf
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation September 2015

Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:48 am

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 76):
TC-LJC just delivered, the total number of 777-30ER's in the fleet is now 22.

Delivery flight of TC-LJC was on September 28.

Quote:
Boeing 777 -3F2 44123 1337 TC-LJC Turkish Airlines delivery 28sep15 PAE-IST


TC-LJC Turkish Airlines Boeing 777-300 - C/N 44123 / LN 1337 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr
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Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:51 am

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 80):

Great pic and good to see another delivery.   


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Turkish Airlines revised year-end results


Turkey’s national carrier, Turkish Airlines has revised its yearend passenger and load factor targets. The targets are down on September 19, after it did the same for its yearend revenue expectation last month. Turkish Airlines revised its yearend passenger number from 63 million to 61.7 million and load factor from 80.3 to 78 percent, according to its revised targets released in a written statement to the Public Disclosure Platform (KAP).

The company closed 2014 with 54.7 million passengers and 78.9 percent in load factor.

Turkish Airlines revised its yearend revenue forecast from $12 billion to $11 billion in August as further pressure was expected over revenue due to currency fluctuations in August.

The company’s passenger numbers rose by 11.7 percent to 40.7 million in the first eight months of the year compared to the same months of 2014. Its load factor was announced at 78.8 percent by a 0.8 percent of decrease from the same period of the previous year.

http://airtraveller.org/index.php/co...hairlines-revised-year-end-results

[Edited 2015-09-30 03:25:29]
 
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