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EK 2-class A380's - More Infos?

Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:55 am

Hi to you all,

EK will soon start 2-class configured A380's to CPH and BKK.
What will happen to the SPA-area (showers) on the upper deck (as there is no FirstClass cabin)? Any seatmap yet available? Will EK "refresh" their Business-/EconomyClass cabin?
 
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RE: EK 2-class A380's - More Infos?

Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:03 am

I think it has already been discussed on here. For memory the first class section becomes economy and economy also takes over the front of J . The strange thing is that the seat numbering for that section of Y has higher numbers than the J section behind. The J bar stays the same.
 
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RE: EK 2-class A380's - More Infos?

Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:20 am

Quoting Airvan00 (Reply 1):
The strange thing is that the seat numbering for that section of Y has higher numbers than the J section behind.

No, what seems rather more strange is the fact, that the J-cabin on the upper deck is behind the Y-Class - meaning the BusinessClass passengers have to wait until the EconomyClass passengers have disembarked upon arrival...
 
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:29 am

Not a problem. On all airlines that I have been on the cabin crew insure that the higher class pax exit before others,
 
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:35 am

Quoting Airvan00 (Reply 3):
Not a problem. On all airlines that I have been on the cabin crew insure that the higher class pax exit before others,

Except on this aircraft the UL exit door is in the middle of the Y cabin... not sure you can keep on the pax seated so the J class can exit first.
 
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:44 am

Quoting jbflyguy84 (Reply 4):


Except on this aircraft the UL exit door is in the middle of the Y cabin... not sure you can keep on the pax seated so the J class can exit first.

Hadn't thought of that. Maybe EK have, I suppose we will have to wait and see. The routes I fly will won't have these aircraft so I will never see the result.
 
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:45 am

Quoting Airvan00 (Reply 5):
Hadn't thought of that. Maybe EK have, I suppose we will have to wait and see. The routes I fly will won't have these aircraft so I will never see the result.

I do! both BKK and LGW, need to be careful what I book now!
 
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RE: EK 2-class A380's - More Infos?

Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:33 am

EK 2 class seat map here: http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Emi...Airlines_Airbus_A380_Two_Class.php

Interesting that they've added 10 more seats in Y on the main deck (and 120 UD).

How did they do this exactly? My guess is they moved galley cart stowage for MD-Y into the galley behind UD-J. It looks like the UD galley is the same size as on 3-class planes, but there are 18 fewer J seats to service. Does anyone if this is possible? I.e. does EK have a galley cart lift on its A380s?
 
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:40 am

I'm surprised they didn't also add a premium economy cabin on these aircraft. That's a much reduced J cabin!
 
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:41 am

Quoting Matt6461 (Reply 7):
EK 2 class seat map here: http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Emi...s.php

No worries about Y disembarking before J, based on SeatGuru, Emirates appears to have also succeeded in relocating the upper deck exits  
 
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RE: EK 2-class A380's - More Infos?

Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:15 pm

Quoting debonair (Reply 2):
No, what seems rather more strange is the fact, that the J-cabin on the upper deck is behind the Y-Class...

I imagine this was done because the bar is already designed to be in that area so they didn't need to re-config the plumbing, which speeds outfitting.
 
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:32 pm

Do we know what aircrafta re being retrofitted with F being removed?
 
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:59 pm

If the exit is in the middle of the Economy class cabin as many believe it is. I would imagine those economy passengers are ushered forward towards the stairs and down to the main deck quite quickly, and then business class passengers disembark from the Upper Deck.

Also, for embarking at DXB (and anywhere else), they can still keep the UD aerobridge as a premium bridge, and have Economy class passengers go up the internal stairs. This arrangement would have been difficult and slow if the Y-class was at the back, as they would have to go up the stairs and then towards the end of the aircraft, which would take a bit of time.

However, those positives aside, don't think that this arrangement is a good idea. Surely, they could have made a decent bar where the showers were.


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Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:18 pm

Quoting skipness1e (Reply 11):

Do we know what aircrafta re being retrofitted with F being removed?

Didn't think any were.

The two class are new deliveries due in the next few months think the first is A6-EOP
 
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:50 pm

I imagine there are two options for Y/J pax disembarkation from UD:

1) Crew will keep Y/C pax waiting until J/C pax disembark first from UD L Door 1, then Y/C would be allowed to disembark.

2) UD J/C will disembark from UD L Door 1, UD Y/C would be permitted to go down the stairs to disembark from the lower MD fwd doors
 
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 2:53 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 10):

They needed to keep B/C Lounge which is popular for J/C pax, whereas if the J/C was moved to Fwd of the cabin that could have cost them Aft Lounge
 
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:20 pm

Quoting Clipper101 (Reply 14):
1) Crew will keep Y/C pax waiting until J/C pax disembark first from UD L Door 1, then Y/C would be allowed to disembark.

If you look at Seatguru's layout, they have 16 rows of Y-class on the UD. I highly doubt that you could get 16 rows in front of the UD L1 Door (and only 5 rows of business class between UDL1 and UDL2), so I think their exit is incorrectly shown on the diagram.

That means, in order for your scenario 1 to work, Y-class passengers would be forced to remain seated and not get up and block the aisles. That just ain't gonna happen!

Scenario 2 would be a possibility (and in my opinion probability), but still, it would take time to get rid of enough economy passengers in order to allow business class customers out. Plus, when they do eventually start disembarking, there will be slow economy passengers still getting up, blocking aisles. Not an ideal look when premium passengers have to accommodate economy passengers.

I simply do not think the bar is worth that hassle. A perfectly acceptable bar could have been placed somewhere else, either towards the front, or somewhere towards the middle of the deck.

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RE: EK 2-class A380's - More Infos?

Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:26 pm

I agree. The configuration seems a bit wacky.
How difficult would it have been to move the bar to the front of the aircraft? In fact, that may have helped them fit in more seats as there is so much empty space up front that is otherwise unusable.

Plus, regardless of all logistics, there's also the optics: I wonder how J passengers would like being seated 'behind' Economy passengers, and have to disembark after them.
 
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RE: EK 2-class A380's - More Infos?

Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:34 pm

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 16):

Correct, forgot about those seats behind UD L1 door, sorry. I then guess B/C have to wait their turn for disembarkation after all.

[Edited] True Seat Guru schematics in above link have clearly mislocated UD Door 1, which made for my confusion in Reply 14. There should be at least 6 Y/C rows (if not more) sitting between B/C & UD Door 1 based on available A380 UD cabin area.

[Edited 2015-09-02 09:02:58]
 
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RE: EK 2-class A380's - More Infos?

Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:38 pm

Quoting AT (Reply 17):
How difficult would it have been to move the bar to the front of the aircraft?

My guess is new RFC, new ERC, new project by itself that would need to take its time just for handful of aircraft, besides they would be altering something that is already proving popular

[Edited 2015-09-02 08:43:17]
 
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RE: EK 2-class A380's - More Infos?

Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:41 pm

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 12):
However, those positives aside, don't think that this arrangement is a good idea. Surely, they could have made a decent bar where the showers were.
Quoting AT (Reply 17):
How difficult would it have been to move the bar to the front of the aircraft? In fact, that may have helped them fit in more seats as there is so much empty space up front that is otherwise unusable.

For the bar up in the front, they would have had to design a completely new bar. I suppose the only economically feasible option they had was to keep the current bar design in the back of the plane-
 
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RE: EK 2-class A380's - More Infos?

Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:04 pm

Quoting Finn350 (Reply 20):
I suppose the only economically feasible option they had was to keep the current bar design in the back of the plane-

How expensive could that possibly be?

I agree it's a weird choice, but there are other explanations as well:

-the rear of the UD tapers in a way that might not accommodate EK's seating. Therefore the bar is better there than occupying full-width rows

-the front tapers too but you have the stairs to work around. Hard to efficiently place a central bar given the stairs and then a bunch of space behind them

-The galley cart lift is in the UD rear on most layouts, IIRC. EK added 10 Y seats to the MD, perhaps by moving galley stowage for MD-Y to the UD. In the 3-class layouts, that rear galley services 76 J seats. Here it services 58, meaning there's room for MD-Y's galley carts. Ten seats is a big deal.
 
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:07 pm

I can understand why they are putting the economy cabin on the upper deck forward. If the seat map is to be believed this will all be in front of the exit door meaning that it will be easy for J passengers to disembark first. The way DXB works I imagine economy passengers will be sent down the stairs (and boarded using the stairs) using the 1L bridge.

So... the reason J is located after of Y on the upper deck is because of the bar. I imagine this will be quite comfortable due to the lower capacity in J (and no first) compared to other aircraft.

One question though... Can they actually fit that many economy seats in the front cabin section of the upper deck?

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Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:27 pm

The Seatguru schematics are defiantly wrong. I think it is more likely that the exit will be around row 33. As I can understand why EX chose this configuration, I just hope that I never end up in it as a business class passenger ever.
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:25 pm

Does anyone know how many of the A380s will have this 2-class configuration ?
And apart from Copenhagen and Bangkok , will any other destinations get them ?
 
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:35 pm

About 15 at the moment and other confirmed routes include Gatwick, and Kuala Lumpur in first half of 2016

Others as aircraft become available are likely to include Birmingham and for certain some regional traffic centres and India.

They will be used where the high density 77Ws currently operate.

The third Manchester service could also see the two class 388 i'd expect.
 
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RE: EK 2-class A380's - More Infos?

Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:41 pm

Quoting Stitch (Reply 10):
I imagine this was done because the bar is already designed to be in that area so they didn't need to re-config the plumbing, which speeds outfitting.

And it gives them the option to easily reconfigure again at a later date.
 
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:00 pm

615 passengers on one flight. Now that's what I envisioned for the A380. I am very interested to find out how well it works....or doesn't.

Quoting Clipper101 (Reply 14):
1) Crew will keep Y/C pax waiting until J/C pax disembark first from UD L Door 1, then Y/C would be allowed to disembark.

That would be a nightmare for the cabin crew.

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 16):
That means, in order for your scenario 1 to work, Y-class passengers would be forced to remain seated and not get up and block the aisles. That just ain't gonna happen!

My first thought as well. Most passengers don't seem to listen to the cabin crew in the air but once the wheels touch the ground, they get completely deaf.

Quoting slinky09 (Reply 8):

I'm surprised they didn't also add a premium economy cabin on these aircraft. That's a much reduced J cabin!

Seatguru shows that at least Y passengers get between 32 and 34" of pitch.
What the...?
 
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 7:27 pm

Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 27):
That would be a nightmare for the cabin crew.

If you notice I recalled this comment in a later reply, it seems this erroneous Seat Guru schematic played its trick on me.

In general, if you happen to travel on one of EK’s other aircraft: B777, A340 or A330, their cabin crew do a good job in segregating pax disembarkation. Based on my observations:

A) When the access is only the Fwd Door 1: Crew keep holding B/C & Y/C when F/C are disembarking, keep holding Y/C when B/C disembark then comes the Y/C turn.

B) When the access is Fwd Door 1 & Door 2: Crew let F/C disembark from Door1, hold B/C who want to disembark from Door1 until F/C is clear. They hold Y/C from disembarking from Door 2 until B/C disembarkation from Door 2 is clear.

C) When access is from Doors 1, 2 & most Aft Door 4/5 (usually happens at DXB when aircrfat is parked at the ramp & is served by stairs on all doors): Same as (B) above added to it crew will let Y/C disembark from most Aft Door 4/5.

[Edited 2015-09-02 12:43:17]

[Edited 2015-09-02 12:46:30]
 
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:19 pm

Quoting Clipper101 (Reply 28):
If you notice I recalled this comment in a later reply, it seems this erroneous Seat Guru schematic played its trick on me.

I can see that but on every flight I've been on, (and it has been years since I've flown EK), a bunch of people stand up and start getting their overhead belongings out and try lining up at the doors, virtually as soon as the wheels touch down.

They don't always sit down the first few times the flight attendants remind them to stay seated until the plane is parked at the gate.

Perhaps it won't be an issue but with over 600 people on board, I can see how things might get backed up.
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:01 pm

Quoting AT (Reply 24):
Does anyone know how many of the A380s will have this 2-class configuration ?
And apart from Copenhagen and Bangkok , will any other destinations get them ?

In the case of London, Gatwick will get this A380 from the beginning of January 2016.
 
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Wed Sep 02, 2015 9:37 pm

Most would agree that having Y in front of C on the upper deck is far from ideal, and I think there are three possibilities as to why this came about.
1) Keeping as much commonality with existing configurations due to budgetary constraints. This, I think, is unlikely because the return in investment, even from a relatively small subfleet is going to be significant.
2) The decision to proceed with the 2 class configuration came too late from a supply chain point of view. So, an optimal layout could not be adopted in time.
3) EK has plans to reconfigure existing frames into 2 class at some point in the future. For example, when the Trent powered frames are delivered, could they be dedicated to the longest A380 routes, leaving some frames available for regional flying?
Of course, it could be that they just couldn't come up with anything better, but it is interesting speculating, nonetheless!
 
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Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:06 am

Quoting BHXLOVER (Reply 26):
And it gives them the option to easily reconfigure again at a later date.

It won't be easy to reconfigure from 2 to 3 class, unless all the plumbing for the shower is still built for the 2 class version.

Perhaps, it will be easier to reconfigure 3 class to 2 class.

I still don't buy into the idea that doing it this way is better for the bar. It can't be that costly to redo a bar area either at the front or mid-cabin somewhere, especially as it will become quite a big sub-fleet.
 
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Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:03 am

A crazy idea, has a mobile stair connected to the upper deck door and
ensure that buses with enough seats are waiting at the gate before the 380 arrives.

So that all of J passengers can take the bus directly to the immigration point and no need to walk anymore.
I am sure it will be a lot quicker then waiting those Y passengers on upper deck to vacate the arises.
It will not dilute the "premium feeling" of J passengers significantly, especially in airport where
the A380 gate don't have a jetbridge that can connected to the upper deck (they have to go down the stair anyways).
And EK is loading a fully loaded 380 on an outerbay in DXB on regular basis so I believe they can handle the situation nicely.
 
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Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:55 am

Quoting AT (Reply 24):
Does anyone know how many of the A380s will have this 2-class configuration ?

At the moment 15 two-class A380's are planned.

Quoting AT (Reply 24):
And apart from Copenhagen and Bangkok , will any other destinations get them ?

Gatwick and Kuala Lumpur.
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Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:16 pm

reply 27
Seatguru shows that at least Y passengers get between 32 and 34" of pitch.

True but it also appears to say that they are using 17.5in seats.Which is odd as they aren't.Well not on the ones I have flown on- they all appear (to me) to be at least 18in seats if not more.Indeed this is their biggest USP IMHO
 
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Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:19 pm

No way in the world you are able to keep Y class passengers seated for the C class passengers to disembark.
As soon the wheels hit the tarmac people are starting to get up to get their bags.
And as a business class passenger I would be really pissed off if i had to wait for all the holiday making families to retrieve their stuff and kids and to get of the plane.
I don't travel for fun and can miss this kind of holdups as tooth pain.
Unless they find a way to get this organized I will give it a pass eve while the bar is a nice thing.
 
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Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:07 pm

The J class seat configuration is different from the other A380s...
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Emi...mirates_Airlines_Airbus_A380_B.php
 
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Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:39 pm

Quoting Clipper101 (Reply 18):
True Seat Guru schematics in above link have clearly mislocated UD Door 1,

The scale is wrong but not only here. Look at SQ's or LH's diagram in the same site and the position of the UD doors is different across all of them.

One thing is clear to me, they will keep the Y cabin forward of the UD exit, and the J cabin aft of the exist. This way Y will board and deplane through the cabin stairs and LD exit, and the UD exit will be for the exclusive use of the J cabin. The big question that remains is how they will be able to fit that many Y seats in such a seemingly small space. Is it an illusion because we're used to seeing premium seats in that space so it appears at first that it's not possible to fit that many Y seats up there?
 
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Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:58 pm

Quoting airbazar (Reply 38):
One thing is clear to me, they will keep the Y cabin forward of the UD exit, and the J cabin aft of the exist. This way Y will board and deplane through the cabin stairs and LD exit, and the UD exit will be for the exclusive use of the J cabin. The big question that remains is how they will be able to fit that many Y seats in such a seemingly small space. Is it an illusion because we're used to seeing premium seats in that space so it appears at first that it's not possible to fit that many Y seats up there?

Can't be. In the seat guru diagram they have only 10 rows of J class between door U1L and U2L, while in the 3-class version they have 15 rows. Obviously, they wouldn't reduce by that amount, so some of that space must be Y-class behind U1L.

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Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:40 pm

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 39):
Can't be. In the seat guru diagram they have only 10 rows of J class between door U1L and U2L, while in the 3-class version they have 15 rows. Obviously, they wouldn't reduce by that amount, so some of that space must be Y-class behind U1L.

It's a different hard product. Each row of J seats in the 2-class is almost equivalent to 2 rows of seats in the 3-class map.
Notice how the 3-class J row has only 4 seats vs. 8 seats in each row of J in the 2-class plane. If you were to count in rows of 4 seats, the 2-class plane has about 14 rows of J seats.
 
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Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:47 am

Quoting airbazar (Reply 40):
It's a different hard product.

No, it isn't a different hard product. You've fallen foul of SeatGuru's many inconsistencies. The only difference between the J seats on the 2-class vs. 3 class EK A380 is the graphic used by SeatGuru.

If you look closely you can see there are the same number of seats between UD L2 and L3 (including the bar).

Quoting airbazar (Reply 40):
Notice how the 3-class J row has only 4 seats vs. 8 seats in each row of J in the 2-class plane.

It does look a bit that way but in actual fact there are still only 4 seats per row.
 
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Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:24 am

Quoting JoeCanuck (Reply 27):
615 passengers on one flight. Now that's what I envisioned for the A380. I am very interested to find out how well it works....or doesn't.

Count me in! If Ek fills these aircraft and makes a truckload of money, some Aneters will get an aneurism, they will say Tim Clark is a magician and makes people fall for mirrors, in the end the A380 is a high density aircraft for high traffic city pairs, I think this aircraft will make some other rethink their strategies on yield, Casm and traffic.

Interesting months ahead indeed !

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Fri Sep 04, 2015 2:52 am

Quoting airbazar (Reply 38):
Is it an illusion because we're used to seeing premium seats in that space so it appears at first that it's not possible to fit that many Y seats up there?

Do the basic calculations -- four rows of F along each side is 320" of cabin length at 80" pitch each. That's enough for 10 rows of Y at 32" pitch.

Three rows of F in the centre is 240" of cabin length, enough for 8 rows of Y at 32" by the time you also remove the small bar at the top of the stairs and replace it with a standard bulkhead.

Ten rows at the window and eight in the centre matches up exactly with the gap in row 33 on the seat map.

I would expect the small Y cabin behind UD1 to only be used when every single other Y seat is filled. That will minimise the number of flights where J passengers have to wait, and even then it will only be ~50 passengers if they send the passengers in the forward cabin down the stairs (or hold them back). Not an issue IMO given that these aircraft are intended for non-premium routes.
 
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Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:48 am

Quoting parapente (Reply 35):
True but it also appears to say that they are using 17.5in seats.Which is odd as they aren't.Well not on the ones I have flown on- they all appear (to me) to be at least 18in seats if not more.Indeed this is their biggest USP IMHO

I think that's Seatguru thing. I doubt that EK would introduce a crappier product with the only advantage being bigger aisles. No, I think EK will keep the 18" seats, just to show they can keep cattle class comfy...and not have to deal with another brand of seats.
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Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:55 am

Quoting debonair (Thread starter):
Quoting qf002 (Reply 43):
I would expect the small Y cabin behind UD1 to only be used when every single other Y seat is filled. That will minimise the number of flights where J passengers have to wait, and even then it will only be ~50 passengers if they send the passengers in the forward cabin down the stairs (or hold them back). Not an issue IMO given that these aircraft are intended for non-premium routes.

Agreed, at DXB I expect the forward cabin to be held back on arrival. However on departure I expect the Y pax to board on the lower level and climb the internal stairs. Don't forget, at DXB the departure gates are on different levels in the terminal depending on class of passenger. I'm sure whole teams of terminal supervisors spent a lot of time on this before the aircraft were even ordered.

Maybe that small Y cabin will become exclusive to high status Y passengers who have access to the J lounges.( and J departure gates)
 
thaiflyer
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RE: EK 2-class A380's - More Infos?

Fri Sep 04, 2015 5:59 am

Quoting qf002 (Reply 43):
I would expect the small Y cabin behind UD1 to only be used when every single other Y seat is filled. That will minimise the number of flights where J passengers have to wait, and even then it will only be ~50 passengers if they send the passengers in the forward cabin down the stairs (or hold them back). Not an issue IMO given that these aircraft are intended for non-premium routes.

Don't agree with this statement.
They would have to block the whole section to keep it free.
And you consider only First class premium passengers?
As mentioned before i would be really pissed of if the business class passengers have to wait until the holiday makers are deplaned.
Most of us don't travel for fun and try to get on our way as soon as possible.
 
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RE: EK 2-class A380's - More Infos?

Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:03 am

RE: Seat width

I don't know how reliable seatguru's graphics are but if there is a difference in seat width, might it be due to the curvature in the cabin wall on the upper deck?
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RE: EK 2-class A380's - More Infos?

Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:51 am

This is a screenshot from an EK booking next year on DXB-KUL using the newly-configured A380.

It seems the UD1 doors are between rows 33 and 34. As for Y class passengers being able to select a seat on the upper deck, there appear to be no problems on my booking. In fact, the upper deck cabin is most likely to be filled first because when you choose seats on the website, that's the cabin you see first.


 
thaiflyer
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RE: EK 2-class A380's - More Infos?

Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:13 am

Quoting airpearl (Reply 48):
This is a screenshot from an EK booking next year on DXB-KUL using the newly-configured A380.

It seems the UD1 doors are between rows 33 and 34. As for Y class passengers being able to select a seat on the upper deck, there appear to be no problems on my booking. In fact, the upper deck cabin is most likely to be filled first because when you choose seats on the website, that's the cabin you see first.



Very disappointed in EK for this layout and did not expect it.
Good reason to avoid those 2 class planes as a plague.

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