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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:04 am

Taxied by it last night. It was parked outside the ATL mtc facility. Took a couple of pics but have never figured out how to post those into a thread.
 
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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:57 pm

Quoting northwestEWR (Reply 48):
Her final hour/cycle count:

Ship 6301
N661US
Hours: 107,926.4
Cycles: 14,146

One heck of a flying career!

Coincidentally, I was re-reading the April 2005 issue of Airways magazine today. It includes an item referring to two NW DC-10-30s,one of which, N211NW, was retired to the desert in January 2005 with 125,278 hours, a little over 14 full years in the air. It was delivered to SAS in 1974 and later operated for Swissair.

The other, N221NW, was still in service with NW as of January 1, 2005 with 125,230 hours. It was built in 1973 and delivered to Swissair in 1974. Both were apparently the highest-time airliners at the time.

Wonder what the current flying hours record-holder is?
 
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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:01 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 51):
Wonder what the current flying hours record-holder is?

I'd be interested to know.... Someone posted some numbers on Lufthansa's 747s that were up in the DC-10 neighborhood. Not sure if they have those beat. Incredible flight times on those DC-10s.
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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:38 pm

Quoting northwestEWR (Reply 52):
I'd be interested to know.... Someone posted some numbers on Lufthansa's 747s that were up in the DC-10 neighborhood. Not sure if they have those beat. Incredible flight times on those DC-10s.

N746SA or N748SA

ex KLM 742s with the SUD mod that flew for Southern Air for a while. IIRC they were retired in the 135,000 hour range.
 
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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:44 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 51):
Wonder what the current flying hours record-holder is

Probably KLM PH-BFA. Early line 747-400, and still flying a heavy schedule 26 years later. Probably up over 130,000 hours by now.
 
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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:46 pm

Quoting diverted (Reply 53):
N746SA or N748SA

ex KLM 742s with the SUD mod that flew for Southern Air for a while. IIRC they were retired in the 135,000 hour range.

Last SDR I could find from N746SA was from 9/26/08 with 132,922 hours and 23,431 cycles.
N748SA on 3/3/09 had 132180 hours and 24582 cycles. it served a bit longer but the later entries don't have hour/cycle info.
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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:12 am

Quoting BiggerJetsPlz (Reply 54):
Probably KLM PH-BFA. Early line 747-400, and still flying a heavy schedule 26 years later. Probably up over 130,000 hours by now.

PH-BFA, -BFB, -BFC, -BFD, -BFE and -BFF should all have passed 130.000 flight hours by now, or are very close, at around 16.000 cycles. They all passed 125.000 hours last years.
 
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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:50 am

The early KLM 744's are nominated for retirement once the 789 are coming. They are the highest cycled 744's in the world. The last one is I think planned to retire in March 2021 after exactly 50 years of 747 service with KLM... I think only Lufthansa will last longer because of the 748.
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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Tue Sep 15, 2015 3:13 pm

Hopefully i will get PH-BFC on Thursday to PEK    
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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:18 pm

Quoting na (Reply 56):
PH-BFA, -BFB, -BFC, -BFD, -BFE and -BFF should all have passed 130.000 flight hours by now, or are very close, at around 16.000 cycles. They all passed 125.000 hours last years.

With that record, these five KLM 744s must surely be the flight hour champions among active airplanes.
 
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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:23 pm

Quoting na (Reply 59):

Quoting na (Reply 56):
PH-BFA, -BFB, -BFC, -BFD, -BFE and -BFF should all have passed 130.000 flight hours by now, or are very close, at around 16.000 cycles. They all passed 125.000 hours last years.

With that record, these five KLM 744s must surely be the flight hour champions among active airplanes.

And quite possibly among retired airplanes. Those are some crazy numbers. Long live the Queen.
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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:11 pm

Quoting lijnden (Reply 57):
The last one is I think planned to retire in March 2021 after exactly 50 years of 747 service with KLM... I think only Lufthansa will last longer because of the 748.

How does BA fit in the comparison?

Quoting northwestEWR (Reply 60):
Long live the Queen

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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Tue Sep 15, 2015 9:28 pm

You know, I think there is a way to pay homage to Northwest on this plane and still keep the Delta name...

why not keep the front part, through the DELTA name as it is, but spiff it up, then let it dissolve into the last Northwest livery for the back half or so of the plane - including the Northwest tail as it was.

It honors the transition from Northwest to Delta, shows the heritage of the aircraft and lets the Northwest folk have a tail of familiarity... all while clearly showing what both looked like. Goodness knows, there's nothing particularly exciting about yet another big red widget tail.

One could paint painters working on the repaint on the sides, or just let it fade from one to the other. Even put the date of the merger on it. It'd be a nice testament to the people who made that merger go soooo smoothly.
 
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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Tue Sep 15, 2015 10:11 pm

Quoting NWAROOSTER (Reply 16):
I think the best Northwest livery that could be used would be the last livery used by Northwest Airlines. Delta could even consider painting it in the last Northwest livery on one side and the final Delta livery on the other side. But they will not.

In response to eugjinn, I mad the above statement earlier in this topic as I think this would be the best of both worlds.   

[Edited 2015-09-15 15:12:29]
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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:36 pm

Quoting ReinerS (Reply 58):
Hopefully i will get PH-BFC on Thursday to PEK

Will be PH-BFI tomorrow...

Anyone knows the numbers?  
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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:38 pm

Quoting eugdjinn (Reply 62):
why not keep the front part, through the DELTA name as it is, but spiff it up, then let it dissolve into the last Northwest livery for the back half or so of the plane - including the Northwest tail as it was.

That would be pretty neat. Way better than just a plain DL look.
 
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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Wed Sep 16, 2015 6:53 pm

Quoting NWAROOSTER (Reply 63):

Quoting NWAROOSTER (Reply 16):
I think the best Northwest livery that could be used would be the last livery used by Northwest Airlines. Delta could even consider painting it in the last Northwest livery on one side and the final Delta livery on the other side. But they will not.

In response to eugjinn, I mad the above statement earlier in this topic as I think this would be the best of both worlds.

With respect, while we are both suggesting a half and half - you proposed right half, left half. If you read what I wrote, I suggested front half, back half - and was being true to Delta branding. So, while yes, half/half was your idea.... I think I rather changed the game substantially. So I'm sorry if I take some umbrage at your claiming my improvement as your genius.

I personally think the tail was the best part of the old Northwest livery, and that showing it amongst the Delta liveries gives a nice resonance to the tipped red widget of the current logo, so nicely displayed on the 757 sitting right there.
 
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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Thu Sep 17, 2015 8:17 am

Quoting na (Reply 56):
PH-BFA, -BFB, -BFC, -BFD, -BFE and -BFF should all have passed 130.000 flight hours by now, or are very close, at around 16.000 cycles. They all passed 125.000 hours last years.

My flight is now on PH-BFF instead of PH-BFI. I am on board of this bird today, awesome.  
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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Thu Sep 17, 2015 5:21 pm

Quoting ReinerS (Reply 67):

My flight is now on PH-BFF instead of PH-BFI. I am on board of this bird today, awesome.

True plane nerd, wishing for the oldest, most used plane in the fleet. hehe. I'm right there with you, but it seems my luck is bad and I always get the newest  
 
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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:10 pm

Was a good start for the North Korean Aviation Tour this year.
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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:24 pm

Quoting n7371f (Reply 50):
Taxied by it last night. It was parked outside the ATL mtc facility. Took a couple of pics but have never figured out how to post those into a thread.

Add them to your profile....so click on your name at the right top.
Then click "view public profile"....and add your pics at the bottom.

Come back to this thread and click the white link "add images"...right above where I am typing now.

Please post those pics!

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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Mon Sep 28, 2015 9:10 am

Quoting notaxonrotax (Reply 70):
Please post those pics!

I second that!  
 
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RE: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:29 am

Quoting andrej (Reply 71):
I second that!

Hope he will....


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Re: 1st 747-400 Built Being Retired

Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:58 pm

I was at DTW traveling for my company just a couple of months after NW got its first 744. And as I was waiting for my flight a beautiful 744 pulled into a gate near where I was waiting. It could well have been N661US; I do not remember the registration. But I will always remember the thrill of seeing it, and I always wanted to fly on one. I finally got my chance 3 years ago tomorrow when I flew to the Philippines for the first time; I flew DL EWR-DTW-NGO-MNL, the last two legs on a 747. Even though I did not change planes in NGO I still had to get off it and go through Japanese security. Of course I also flew on 747's on the return flight, and the next flight in June 2014 I flew an EVA 744M (combi) from TPE to MNL, and also on the return flight. My last trip, on Oct. 1, 2014 I again flew an EVA 744M TPE-MNL but on the return on April 6 they had all been retired, and MNL-TPE was on a 77W.
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