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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:29 pm

https://twitter.com/Bradley_Hampton/status/641389824507670528

Doesn't look good!
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:31 pm

Reports are now that it is probable BA2276.
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:32 pm

Fingers crossed everyone is safe.
 
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:32 pm

That's look really bad! I can't really tell but it looks like a double engine fire..
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:32 pm

Looks like a BA 777, with flames coming from the engines. Wonder if they were GE90s or Trents?

Either way, I hope everyone evacuates safely.
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:33 pm

LAS Twitter account confirms fire is out: http://twitter.com/LASairport/status/641391470008758272

And that everyone escaped safely: http://twitter.com/LASairport/status/641391919822675968

[Edited 2015-09-08 16:36:32]
 
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:35 pm

Here's another picture:

www.twitter.com/ericmhays
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:37 pm

Wow... that could have been a lot worse.
 
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:38 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 3):
That's look really bad! I can't really tell but it looks like a double engine fire..

Landing gear fire it looks like to me. Too dark of smoke and I can see the left turbine pretty clearly in the linked picture.

Looks like a rejected take-off for unknown reason. It could be because of an engine failure.

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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:39 pm

A shot from CBS News:
http://i.imgur.com/o9f87x7.png

Here is a Periscope video of the firefighters extinguishing the fire: http://www.periscope.tv/w/aL9j9zExOT...VoQLKaZlWc-8wRlnctJS7BNRcJjL5vKQ==
 
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:39 pm

Quoting Okie (Reply 11):
Landing gear fire it looks like to me.

Had the same thought.
 
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:40 pm

Quoting A332DTW (Reply 10):
Wow... that could have been a lot worse.

It could have been a lot better. What can cause a double engine fire, on super reliable engines?
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:40 pm

The registration is G-VIIO.

[Edited 2015-09-08 16:45:26]
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:41 pm

Quoting BMcD (Reply 5):
FR24 confirming BA2276

It doesn't give us a reg but does give us Aircraft: Boeing 777-236(ER)
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:42 pm

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 4):
Wonder if they were GE90s or Trents?

It's G-VIIO if it's the same aircraft that operated LGW-LAS, a GE90 aircraft.
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:43 pm

Quoting Bruce (Reply 15):
Can anyone see the reg# on it?

G-VIIO
 
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:43 pm

Wow. Very glad to hear everyone is out. But the fire does look bad. Even with lots of smoke, and possibly fire only on engines... is this a write-off? And how on earth does this start on the runway?
 
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:43 pm

Quoting fbgdavidson (Reply 17):
It's G-VIIO if it's the same aircraft that operated LGW-LAS, a GE90 aircraft.

Beat me to it, it was G-VIIO.
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:43 pm

Quoting georgiaame (Reply 14):
It could have been a lot better. What can cause a double engine fire, on super reliable engines?

It doesn't look like an engine fire to me. Looks more like a landing gear fire.
 
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:45 pm

Quoting georgiaame (Reply 14):
What can cause a double engine fire, on super reliable engines?

Do we know that it's a double engine fire? So far it looks to me landing gear were on fire? Emergency braking?
 
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:45 pm

Quoting AirlineCritic (Reply 19):
Even with lots of smoke, and possibly fire only on engines... is this a write-off? And

Think it is too early for that. Boeing can do miracles, remember the 787 that caught fire and was returned to service? (Not trying to stir the A vs B pot on this, they did a great job returning that bird to service).
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:47 pm

They were taxiing out so I doubt they were going fast enough to heat up the brakes too severe.
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:48 pm

Airport worker reported:

"Working at the airport here in Las Vegas, hear a loud thumping behind us. Turn around and see the British Airways 777 engine on fire. Flames over the top of the fuselage."
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:48 pm

Quoting AirlineCritic (Reply 19):

is this a write-off?

Lol really? It's like happening right now and you are asking people sitting on their computers if it's a write off?

Quoting georgiaame (Reply 14):
Wow... that could have been a lot worse.

It could have been a lot better. What can cause a double engine fire, on super reliable engines?


It's not a double engine fire.
 
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:48 pm

Dramatic pictures. Hope everyone is safe.

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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:48 pm

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 22):
Emergency braking?

It was a large fire, which makes me question what the ignition source might have been. Hot brakes alone I doubt would cause that large a fire.
 
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:49 pm

It is reported as an outgoing flight catching fire. So taxing or rolling on the runway before the incident.
 
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:50 pm

https://instagram.com/p/7Y1vFOIcw8/

Evac in progress.
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:50 pm

Good news: McCarran Intl. is reporting everyone was evacuated safely with 2 being treated for minor injuries (likely from slide injuries or smoke inhalation).

https://twitter.com/LASairport/status/641394390859141121

I agree that it looks like a tire fire, the smoke color is a dead giveaway. It's really hard to get that kind of pitch black without a tire fire. May not be the cause, but it sure got to them.
 
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:50 pm

Quoting A332DTW (Reply 28):
It was a large fire, which makes me question what the ignition source might have been. Hot brakes alone I doubt would cause that large a fire.

Hot brakes causing tires to burn? Would cause the kind of smoke we've seen in the pictures... just wondering why the hot brakes lead to the tire fire... hot brakes should be a normal occurrence.

Maybe there is something we don't know yet.
 
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:51 pm

Visually this somewhat reminds of the British Airtours 732 fire at MAN back in the 80s, thankfully everyone escaped injury
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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:54 pm

Quoting Bruce (Reply 15):

Per Planefinder reg is G-VIIO.

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Tue Sep 08, 2015 11:56 pm

Quoting AirlineCritic (Reply 32):
Hot brakes causing tires to burn

Definitely, though I have a hard time believing it's just tires that caused that large a fire. First thing that came to my mind was fuel leak on hot brakes. I don't know, maybe 777 landing gear is a lot larger than I thought... it has 12 tires on the main.
 
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Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:00 am

Quoting A332DTW (Reply 35):
Definitely, though I have a hard time believing it's just tires that caused that large a fire.

Could one tire explode and in the process damage an hydraulic line nearby, making that fluid to ignite?
 
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Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:00 am

There are some serious flames from wing level:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0Ecr5h_Y-M
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Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:02 am

Quoting BMcD (Reply 37):
There are some serious flames from wing level:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0Ecr5h_Y-M

Wow, you make out the people evacuating on that one. That would be a very scary situation with flames that large.
 
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Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:02 am

Quoting AirlineCritic (Reply 19):
And how on earth does this start on the runway?

Probably uncontained engine failure that pierced the tanks. Then fuel ignited with the hot breaks. Scary.
 
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Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:03 am

Quoting BMcD (Reply 37):
There are some serious flames from wing level:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0Ecr5h_Y-M

Is it just smoke and optical illusion, or does that fire look like it's just front of the landing gear?
 
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Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:04 am

Quoting Okie (Reply 11):
Landing gear fire it looks like to me. Too dark of smoke and I can see the left turbine pretty clearly in the linked picture.

That's a pretty good thought, but after looking at the video looks more like an engine fire. Or else somebody needs to tell the fire department that the wheels are UNDER the wing! But that's DEFINITELY the most logical thought.

Quoting georgiaame (Reply 14):
What can cause a double engine fire, on super reliable engines?

Darned good question! FOD maybe? Something ingested during the start of the takeoff roll. Could someone have placed something inside the cowls and forgotten about it? Guess we will have to wait for a bit more information before we can speculate.
 
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Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:05 am

Quoting BMcD (Reply 37):
There are some serious flames from wing level:

That is a VERY interesting video.

Some observations:

This is prior to fire crew arriving, and they can't take too long. So it is very early in the event. The flames are huge, considering that. Started quickly, not as a long-term heating of breaks to ignite tires.

You can see the evac starting. Must have been scary and dangerous to evacuate amid that smoke and flames next to you.

And flames indeed at wing level!

Random guess at this stage: unconfined engine failure.

Thoughts?
 
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Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:05 am

Quoting A332DTW (Reply 40):
Is it just smoke and optical illusion, or does that fire look like it's just front of the landing gear?

Its hard to tell, to me it looks like there are flames coming out from the engine cowl. I could be wrong, the video could be misleading but to me it looks like that is where the flames were originating. I didn't see any flames at the "ground" level per se.
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Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:06 am

How is it this story is over an hour old and there are no new photos/video (can't they put a news helicopter over it) to show what is going on. The initial photo looks like the plane is fully engulfed but seeing that media as a whole isn't reporting the story makes me wonder if this is all very minor and that was an illusion of sorts.
 
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Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:06 am

After watching that video, I'll throw another one out there... cargo hold fire?
 
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Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:06 am

Pretty sure it was a brake fire. When I worked for UA Ramp in Vegas, we had a 737-300 at the gate. I noticed fluid dripping on the tire, and suddenly, a huge plume of thick black smoke came out. It turns out that a brake line cracked, and fluid dripped onto the hot brakes. Luckily, it didn't erupt or cause a major fire. I ran up to the cockpit and told the crew. They hadn't started boarding yet, and the pilots took quick action.

Not sure what the Temps are in LAS right now, but I am sure it's over 100. Mixed with hard brakes, a recipe for something like this to happen. I could be wrong, but it looks like brakes and tires burning to me.

So glad everyone is okay!

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Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:07 am

Quoting BMcD (Reply 37):
There are some serious flames from wing level:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0Ecr...h_Y-M

And basically no smoke from behind the wings where the wheels are.
 
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Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:07 am

Quoting F9Animal (Reply 46):
Not sure what the Temps are in LAS right now, but I am sure it's over 100. Mixed with hard brakes

Open to be corrected as wrong but I've read this flight was leaving Vegas, not arriving so not sure if that would heat the brakes.
 
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Wed Sep 09, 2015 12:08 am

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 4):
Wonder if they were GE90s or Trents?

GE90s.

....this aircraft was the former "Chelsea Rose" 777.

I hope she's still airworthy after this.  
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