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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:15 pm

Quoting PA515 (Reply 148):

I've heard from an air nz employee that one of the 777-300's has been found to have severe corrosion in it. I think it might have been OKN, though I thought they said it was being flown back to Boeing to assess the damage.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:53 pm

Looks like ZK-OKN is on a ferry flight right now from AKL - VCV flt # NZ 6014 , anyone knows if this have to do with corrosion repair per reply 150 ?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:01 pm

With UA entrance on AKL-SFO, how iw AKL going to handle that flight? since it leaves in the USA peak
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:04 pm

Quoting zkncj (Reply 152):
With UA entrance on AKL-SFO

I'm not sure if this is the great news we've all been waiting for.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ticle.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11526074

Firstly, it's AKL-SFO. Not bad, but to provide decent competition to NZ it probably needed to be AKL-LAX. Secondly, it might all be Luxon-spin, but this is being pitched as yet another, not particularly threatening duopolistic codeshare type arrangement. All it might actually achieve for the traveler is to drive AA away from the table. I'd have far preferred them.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:43 pm

and thus we have the beginning of the end of the North America (minus Hawaii) monopoly.

Is ZK-NGI still in Christchurch or has she made her final departure?

Quoting cougar15 (Reply 129):
Spring chickens mate, there is a seperate thread on Lufthansa retiring their 735 and 733s shortly, all well on their way to 50-57K!

Haha. I'll miss the Lufthansa 737s also. Its years since I've been on one of them, unfortunately. I trust that Lufthansa has kept the interiors as spotless and well kept as Air New Zealand did with theirs.  
Quoting cougar15 (Reply 129):
Good mainternance (and I think we agree, both NZ & LH are good at that) and the little pig will probably soldier on forever.

Hopefully!

Quoting cougar15 (Reply 129):
She´s a tough old Girl & with the Reputation NZ MX has , I expect one or 3 will live to soldier on for another day......
cheers

Based on the date of their rollout, ZK-NGI and ZK-NGJ theoretically have the best possible chance of being the last 737Classics in service.

Quoting PA515 (Reply 148):
There was a post some months back that OKN and OKP were going to SIN in November for repainting.

I'd better get some more photos of ZK-OKP then, asap. Thanks for the reminder.

Quoting jamie86 (Reply 150):
I've heard from an air nz employee that one of the 777-300's has been found to have severe corrosion in it. I think it might have been OKN, though I thought they said it was being flown back to Boeing to assess the damage.

Sounds like an excellent opportunity to cancel the 777-300ER leases prematurely and order some much-more-comfortable A350-1000s.   

Quoting gasman (Reply 153):
yet another, not particularly threatening duopolistic codeshare type arrangement.

How many more will the Commerce Commission allow?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:57 pm

Quoting zkojq (Reply 154):
How many more will the Commerce Commission allow?

Eh? Are you suggesting the Commerce Commission is a a separate entity from Air New Zealand??
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:29 pm

Quoting gasman (Reply 153):

I have a feeling they're pre-empting a move from AA. And I'd assume they'd time it like NZ4 to make most of the connections SFO provides, but on a daily basis (compared to the extra flights NZ has). Bring on an AA announcement.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:37 pm

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 156):
I have a feeling they're pre-empting a move from AA.

That's the first thought that came into my head.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:49 pm

Quoting mariner (Reply 157):
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 156):
I have a feeling they're pre-empting a move from AA.

That's the first thought that came into my head.

I wish it were mine. The first thought that came in to my head (after "shall I have another coffee I've just brushed my teeth") was that this is a behind the scenes move to completely discourage (rather than pre-empt) AA from entering the market. It gives UA a piece of the action without too much risk, and avoids a price war on NZ's golden-egg USA routes. Win-win for those two. And yes, surprised the Commerce Commission are buying it. Did we even hear anything about it being subject to regulatory approval??
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:56 pm

Quoting gasman (Reply 158):
I wish it were mine. The first thought that came in to my head (after "shall I have another coffee I've just brushed my teeth") was that this is a behind the scenes move to completely discourage (rather than pre-empt) AA from entering the market.

I don't see a lot of difference between "discourage" and "pre-empt", nor "fend off" as The Age thinks:

http://www.theage.com.au/business/av...tas-challenge-20151008-gk4an6.html

"Air NZ, United team to fend off Qantas"

All's fair in love and airline wars?

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:11 pm

Quoting mariner (Reply 159):

The age article is a good one - far better than the knee jerk Luxon-fallatio pumped out by the NZ Herald.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:47 pm

Quoting zkojq (Reply 154):
Sounds like an excellent opportunity to cancel the 777-300ER leases prematurely and order some much-more-comfortable A350-1000s.

An assumption still to be verified in real life three or four years from now.  
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:50 pm

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 156):
I have a feeling they're pre-empting a move from AA.

I don't know about that but the 35" legroom in economy plus sounds attractive. Any idea what upcharge UA are getting for this into Australia?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:56 am

NZ has announced they will be extending their additional NRT service (2x extra weekly until the 6th of May).
Good to see!
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:13 am

UA will be a daily lunchtime departure from AKL. Yay finally a time where I won't waste an entire day. Arrival in early morning has got to be good for same day East Coast connections (for those not using IAH..)
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Fri Oct 09, 2015 8:08 am

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 164):
UA will be a daily lunchtime departure from AKL. Yay finally a time where I won't waste an entire day. Arrival in early morning has got to be good for same day East Coast connections (for those not using IAH..)

Makes sense rather than having the aircraft sitting around all day at AKL.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:04 am

Quoting gasman (Reply 158):

Ugh, yet another NZ stitch-up. I must say this took me completely by surprise, but the effects will be minimal. The only good thing is that the UA flight will have much better timing, but we'll all still pay dearly for the privilege. NZ does seem to be doing a good job of bringing carriers (back) to NZ with the promise of collusion and jacked-up fares in exchange for a codeshare agreement. One really has to wonder if the Commerce Commission even reads these agreements, or is it just there to protect the government's holding in Air New Zealand, which sounds a bit like a conspiracy theory but I'm starting to wonder...
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Fri Oct 09, 2015 11:00 am

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 162):

AA MCE on the 777/787 has more legroom than that.. I don't think UA are trying to capture any Australian market with this. They already have MEL-LAX, SYD-LAX and SYD-SFO; plus the AKL-SFO doesn't allow for anyone to connect from Australia (apart from Perth, which would still be a 6 hr layover).
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Fri Oct 09, 2015 12:41 pm

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 164):
Arrival in early morning

about 4:00am ???
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:17 pm

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 168):
about 4:00am ???

The schedule eff. 01 Jul 2016 is in the announcement, but it doesn't say what days. 01 Jul 2016 is a Fri.

SFO-AKL 2245/0655 UA917 788
AKL-SFO 1320/0640 UA916 788

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:49 pm

Quoting jamie86 (Reply 150):
I've heard from an air nz employee that one of the 777-300's has been found to have severe corrosion in it. I think it might have been OKN, though I thought they said it was being flown back to Boeing to assess the damage.
Quoting shengzhurou (Reply 151):
Looks like ZK-OKN is on a ferry flight right now from AKL - VCV flt # NZ 6014 , anyone knows if this have to do with corrosion repair per reply 150 ?

'jamie86' appears to be correct: http://www.thenzsource.com

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08/10/2015 Air New Zealand Boeing 777-319ER ZK-OKN, which has been under maintenance at Auckland since 28th September, positioned Auckland - Victorville for further maintenance this evening as NZ6014

This appears to be unplanned maintenance. ZK-OKN was in SIN for 12 days of planned maintenance in March 2015.

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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Fri Oct 09, 2015 6:33 pm

Quoting PA515 (Reply 170):
This appears to be unplanned maintenance. ZK-OKN was in SIN for 12 days of planned maintenance in March 2015.

I once was shown the corrosion in the bowels of a NZ 747 and the confined space that there was to remove and replace the corroded metal. My host remarked that he had seen the same corrosion in another 747 that had just been painted over with a heavy coating of anti-corrosion paint . NZ were keeping their 747's for about 20- yrs , the owner of the other 747 about 12-yrs.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Fri Oct 09, 2015 7:23 pm

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 168):

In NW it will depart at 1500/ 1530 for an 0600/0630 arrival into SFO.

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 163):

That takes care of a 787 with a couple of gap days then.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Sat Oct 10, 2015 1:18 pm

On the thread talking about QF starting PER-LHR in 2017 with their upcoming 787-9 planes, some mentioned NZ jumping them and doing AKL-PER-LHR and that got me thinking how NZ handles a sizable long haul network despite not having a large wide body fleet (compared to carriers such as LH, BA, DL, etc.).

How is NZ able to maintain a long haul network to IAH, LAX, SFO, YVR, NRT, PVG, SIN, PER, HNL, HKG, LHR, EZE with only 27 aircraft? I am assuming they'll have 27 planes by early 2017 once all of the 789 coming in.

Will they be expanding anytime soon once all of the 789 coming in?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:13 pm

Quoting VAM8789 (Reply 173):
On the thread talking about QF starting PER-LHR in 2017 with their upcoming 787-9 planes, some mentioned NZ jumping them and doing AKL-PER-LHR

I believe SRB was the first to talk about PER-LHR and the 789. SX1899 did up a flight plan for PER-LHR and on the day the block time was about 18-hrs. So any thoughts of the 789 doing the sector non-stop will have to wait until it loses more weight and the SFC of the engines improve.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:40 pm

Quoting VAM8789 (Reply 173):

All of those routes use about 23 aircraft mix 77W, 772,789,763. Some are less than daily. With the current fleet at 15 777, 6 789 and 5 763, by early 2017 it will be 15 777, 9 789,4 763 with likely increases to IAH and EZE at least with SFO dropping its extra frequencies with UA coming in, you may well see another new route during 2016 to. Over NZ summer fleet is stretched to max where as in winter there is quite a bit of downtime heavy maintenance carried out.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Sat Oct 10, 2015 10:24 pm

Quoting VAM8789 (Reply 173):
How is NZ able to maintain a long haul network to IAH, LAX, SFO, YVR, NRT, PVG, SIN, PER, HNL, HKG, LHR, EZE with only 27 aircraft? I am assuming they'll have 27 planes by early 2017 once all of the 789 coming in.

They are very smart with there fleet planning, the 77W,772,789 also operated short-haul services to MEL,SYD,BNE,RAR,NAN.

Aircraft have an pretty decent utilization, we're as some airlines long-haul fleet will sit on the ground for 12 hours inetween flights.

Were as an NZ 77W will operate something like this back to back. AKL-SFO-AKL-MEL-AKL-LAX-AKL-BNE-AKL-LAX-AKL
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:45 am

Quoting VAM8789 (Reply 173):
How is NZ able to maintain a long haul network

- NZ has low frequency to their longhaul destinations compared to many of the larger carriers which operate higher frequency.

- NZ has a fleet which is mostly young enough that it does not require age based maintenance checks. NZ 772s are maximum 10 years old, he majority of BA/AA 772s for example are prior to 2001 deliveries so require more downtime for additional maintenance requirements (as the NZ744s required before retirement)

Quoting zkncj (Reply 176):
Aircraft have an pretty decent utilization, we're as some airlines long-haul fleet will sit on the ground for 12 hours inetween flights.

It isn't that good. Apart from 12-14h wasted at LAX/SFO/YVR/HKG for example......
What NZ does well is adjust capacity to suit demand... switching between all types in their international fleet if demand fits. Other airlines are more set with specific types.

Quoting zkncj (Reply 176):
Aircraft have an pretty decent utilization

Low utilization type for type. Whereas NZ744s had low hours on retirement, compared to NW/KL/LH 744s of similar age when they were retired they were much lower.

Because they have low utilisation and usually have ground spares for substitution it is easier to maintain schedule without major delay by changing "gauge" .
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Sun Oct 11, 2015 6:10 am

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 177):
Low utilization type for type. Whereas NZ744s had low hours on retirement, compared to NW/KL/LH 744s of similar age when they were retired they were much lower.

Because they have low utilisation and usually have ground spares for substitution it is easier to maintain schedule without major delay by changing "gauge" .

I suppose it comes with the territory when operating aircraft so far away from the country of origin. If there's no spares, then the knock-on effects would be a nightmare to deal with, especially if the aircraft in question was about to depart for AKL-LAX-LHR.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:40 am

Plans to build a 134-bedroom luxury hotel at Wellington Airport have been given the green light.

Wellington Airport chief executive Steve Sanderson confirmed the news on Monday morning, saying it would cost about $35 million, subject to final tender, and construction would begin late-2016.

The 134-bedroom hotel will have a four-star rating and include a restaurant, bar and conference facilities. The hotel would open in late 2017, if design and construction costs meet expectations.

It will be built onto the northern end of the terminal, right next to international departures, and would would be internally linked to the passenger terminal.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...rtfolio-at-wellington-airport.html
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:59 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 179):
It will be built onto the northern end of the terminal, right next to international departures, and would would be internally linked to the passenger terminal.

Struggle to see we're they are going to find the room?
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:35 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 180):
Struggle to see we're they are going to find the room?

Apparently like this... that's the drop-off area on the upper deck...



Should work well for Wellington along with the Hilton and convention centre opposite Te Papa...



[Edited 2015-10-11 22:38:13]
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:34 am

Quoting motorhussy (Reply 181):

Looks like a scaled down version of the Novotel outside AKL, I like the terminal integration. I guess they're trying to differentiate the airport away from being a mostly domestic hub and push for more international services, and this hotel gives a clearer option for crews etc.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:46 am

OriginAir and Kiwi Regional bookings are going well according to their CEO's. KRA is seeing a 50% load factor for their first flights currently with OriginAir adding more NSN-WLG services.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/n...ew-airlines-prove-popular-in-skies
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:35 am

ZK-NZH has been rolled out:
http://flic.kr/p/ztgiEz

Quoting gasman (Reply 155):
Are you suggesting the Commerce Commission is a a separate entity from Air New Zealand??

Lol!

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 161):
An assumption still to be verified in real life three or four years from now.

Indeed, though it can't be any worse than the 77Ws in Y....can they?  
Quoting 777ER (Reply 179):
Plans to build a 134-bedroom luxury hotel at Wellington Airport have been given the green light.

Lets hope they have a spotting deck on top like at Rydges Sydney.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:06 pm

Quoting ZKOJQ (Reply 184):
Indeed, though it can't be any worse than the 77Ws in Y....can they?

A350 just feels like a 777 with 3-3-3. Better than a 787 but not as good as a 747.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:46 am

http://www.christchurchairport.co.nz...t-surprises-a-milestone-passenger/

Looks like CHC has welcomed it's 6 millionth passenger within a 12 month period!

The last time this happened was in October 2010, and re-reaching this is a significant milestone for post-earthquake Christchurch
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:55 am

UA has announced that new bookings and ticketing after Nov 4 will be getting 2 pieces of checked luggage ex Australia or New Zealand. By comparison NZ allows 1 piece @ 23kg and charges NZ$95 (if prepaid online) for an extra piece (to LAX/SFO/IAH/YVR only) and NZ$200 to other destinations (connecting flights etc).
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:07 am

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 187):

Excellent news! Hopefully NZ and HA follow.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 15, 2015 5:43 am

Quoting 777ER (Reply 188):
Excellent news! Hopefully NZ and HA follow.

HA already offer 2 x 32kgs checked baggage allowance to any North American destination on their network  
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:16 am

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 187):
getting 2 pieces of checked luggage ex Australia or New Zealand

It might have been good a few years ago, the exchange rate is rubbish now. Also I prefer my bag to be on the carousel within 15-20min rather that wait for everyone's second piece to be unloaded.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:53 am

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 190):
It might have been good a few years ago, the exchange rate is rubbish now. Also I prefer my bag to be on the carousel within 15-20min rather that wait for everyone's second piece to be unloaded.

Oh come on Rob don't be so negative!  
Most people will still only check 1 bag in and a 787 isn't exactly a 77W/744/A380
I don't think NZ will switch back to 2PC (unless AA jumps in and also does it). Possible they might change to a 30kg allowance with multiple pieces I suppose.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:07 am

Quoting aerorobnz (Reply 190):
Also I prefer my bag to be on the carousel within 15-20min rather that wait for everyone's second piece to be unloaded.

I agree. Baggage is a scourge. If I'm travelling for three days or less I take cabin baggage only. And I keep well within the cabin baggage limits a) because I'm a conformist and b) because lugging too much cabin baggage around the airport, into lounges etc. is a pain in and of itself.

I can't think of a situation where I would need two checked bags unless I was emigrating (happened once in adulthood) or going on a major shopping expedition (never happened). But if the facility for two checked bags is there, I believe a lot of people would take advantage of it. One has to be a fairly experienced traveler to realise that the amount of baggage taken is inversely proportional to one's travel enjoyment.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:01 am

Quoting gasman (Reply 192):
One has to be a fairly experienced traveler to realise that the amount of baggage taken is inversely proportional to one's travel enjoyment.

Yep. For example my checked luggage for 4 weeks away in both tropics and polar regions was 9kg. Usually it is around 6-7kg. Nevertheless, with two SLR bodies and an 80-400mm lens means my hand carriage is taken up with that and a laptop so I always have to check a bag.

When the exchange rate was at 80-90c I was doing 2 shopping trips a year to USA. Even with that in mind I'd barely pack 20kg on my return even on a 2 for 3PC allowance.

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 191):
Oh come on Rob don't be so negative

I would prefer UA (which is notoriously shit - yes even on 787s) say they were investing in increasing overall service inflight service and areas of ground handling (where they are weakest) rather than give us more luggage allowance...

Practicality and a better departure time than NZ will mean that occasionally have to use UA, but this allowance isn't going to mean much if their service standards remain so low that they ave always been.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:40 pm

ZK-OKF has completed the upgrade and had an engine run yesterday. It does NZ135 / NZ136 AKL-BNE-AKL today and will need to do a longhaul this evening if ZK-OKD goes into the hangar today for the upgrade.

It looks like ZK-OKN will be out of action until at least early Nov. The Air NZ website schedule now has NZ6 / NZ5 as a 77E every second day until Thu 03 Dec, except Thu 19 Nov when NZ8 / NZ7 is the 77E. Previously a 77E replaced a 77W on NZ6 / NZ5 or NZ8 / NZ7 for 28 days from early Nov to early Dec so ZK-OKN and ZK-OKP could go to SIN for a repaint.

Will be interesting to see if OKN keeps it's SIN appointment. Serious corrosion after 4.5 years seems unusual. Presumably Boeing is liable for all costs under warranty provisions.



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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Thu Oct 15, 2015 9:42 pm

Quoting PA515 (Reply 194):
Will be interesting to see if OKN keeps it's SIN appointment. Serious corrosion after 4.5 years seems unusual.

Certainly corrosion severe enough for an aircraft to fail its WOF is extremely unusual. I doubt we've heard the last of this.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:02 am

Quoting gasman (Reply 195):
Certainly corrosion severe enough for an aircraft to fail its WOF is extremely unusual.

what is the basis for this statement? It could be that the Boeing warrantee calls for the aircraft to be returned to them for this particular warrantee service. If it could be done in AKL maybe the NZ shop with the 77E refits going on does not have the capacity at this time. There could be other reasons to.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:48 pm

Quoting sunrisevalley (Reply 196):
what is the basis for this statement? It could be that the Boeing warrantee calls for the aircraft to be returned to them for this particular warrantee service. If it could be done in AKL maybe the NZ shop with the 77E refits going on does not have the capacity at this time. There could be other reasons to.

Sure, the fact that the aircraft is being returned to the dealership for repair does not in itself mean the issue is catastrophic. But for corrosion sufficiently bad to warrant repair (often minor corrosion is simply observed) in an aircraft under 5 years old is definitely unusual.

[Edited 2015-10-16 14:55:21]
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:54 pm

Quoting gasman (Reply 197):
But for corrosion sufficiently bad to warrant repair (often minor corrosion is simply observed) in an aircraft under 5 years old is definitely unusual.

I wonder if this could be related to a cargo chemical spill or something, from memory an A330 was written off in the past due to a chemical spill in the hold.
 
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RE: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 165

Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:42 pm

Quoting gasman (Reply 197):
But for corrosion sufficiently bad to warrant repair (often minor corrosion is simply observed) in an aircraft under 5 years old is definitely unusual.

I agree with that. What sort of anti-corrosive treatment does the hidden metal get . It is quite within the realm of possibility that someone screwed up and there was a part that didn't get treated.

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