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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 3): What is the basis of Neeleman's opposition to Open Skies? |
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 4): I 2nd the question? Brazil and the USA should open ties. I'd like to know why he is opposing this move I consider beneficial. |
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 3): What is the basis of Neeleman's opposition to Open Skies? |
Quoting airbazar (Reply 6): U.S. carriers need open skies in order to continue to expand. Greater expansion by U.S. carriers means more competition and therefore fewer profits. |
Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 12): How does its new partner/investor UA feel about this? |
Quoting LAX772LR (Reply 7): I'm guessing he doesn't feel Azul can grow fast enough as to make an immunized partnership worthwhile? |
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 9): AD's timing could not be worse; their new longhauls have to be hemorrhaging and open skies would only make it worse. |
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 13): I would imagine any carrier would be happy to not have any more Brazil capacity for the medium term. I can't imagine anyone wants to add any capacity regardless. |
Quoting PDPsol (Reply 10): Of course, Azul also suffers from certain disadvantages, relative to his US based peers, especially its cost of capital, which is getting, much, much, much higher as Brazil's financial and economic crises reaches gargantuan levels. |
Quoting MEA-707 (Reply 16): He's a hypocrite, advocating free trade and competition when it's beneficial (his times at Southwest, Westjet, JetBlue) and now trying to interfere and stall the free market with 19 century style government barriers. |
Quoting PanAm1971 (Reply 18): I don't mean to snarky but is there any evidence the agreement favors or serves the interests of Brazil? What benefit does Brazil get from the agreement? |
Quoting PanAm1971 (Reply 18): What benefit does Brazil get from the agreement? |
Quoting jfk777 (Reply 21): So why don't TAM, LAN or Aerolinias Argentinas fly to their alliance partners US hubs. NO TAM or LAN in Chicago or DFW, but JAL and BA are in those cities. AR in no where to be seen in Atlanta. |
Quoting jfk777 (Reply 21): Now that LATAM is in OW Charlotte and Philadelphia should be destinations for them from Santiago, Lima or Sao Paulo. The US3 moved beyond the Miamin "mentality" and its time the Latins do too. |
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 20): Problem was the dreams of a bright and unstoppable future have turned sour as the country experiences growing economic and political issues and ideas of protectionism creep in. |
Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 22): Those were some of the first routes to be axed as part of the merger between AA and US |
Quoting airbazar (Reply 15): I doubt very much that Azul is interested in a JV when they're not even interested in joining an alliance. |
Quoting jfk777 (Reply 24): Just because AA killed the Usairways route to Sao Paulo from Charlotte doesn't mean it was not worth flying. |
Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 17): Every business person advocates what is best for their bottom line. |
Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 26): That does not make it acceptable. |
Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 26): It should not be tolerated |
Quoting LAX772LR (Reply 27): ...to who? Apparently not the majority of folk on either side. Otherwise, why do they continue to accept it? (In)actions speak louder than words. |
Quoting LAX772LR (Reply 27): ...why not? |
Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 29): The majority? |
Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 29): You have spoken to this majority? |
Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 29): Because hypocrisy and greed are dangerous |
Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 29): and anti competition |
Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 29): I guess I expect society to not tolerate narrow minded greed |
Quoting LAX772LR (Reply 30): Don't have to.... they're speaking for themselves through their continued tolerance of this on a pan-societal scale. We wouldn't even be talking about this were that not the case. |
Quoting LAX772LR (Reply 30): Meh, they're also the foundations of business. |
Quoting LAX772LR (Reply 30): Why? Doesn't seem very realistic. |
Quoting jfk777 (Reply 24): Just because AA killed the Usairways route to Sao Paulo from Charlotte doesn't mean it was not worth flying. |
Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 26): That does not make it acceptable. It should not be tolerated but people like you either shrug it off or support this viewpoint of anything for their bottom line. |