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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:38 pm

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How is A319neo testing going?

D-AVWA has flown 9 flights since flying resumed on Aug 2nd 2017
D-AVYW has not flown since July 10th 2017


D-AVYW is not an A319neo.

Indeed, the only A319neo in circulation is MSN6464 D-AVWA, with CFMs (for some reason misidentified as A319-171N in the photo database here)




Any word yet on when/if a PW A319neo will make an appearance?

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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:43 pm

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Any word yet on when/if a PW A319neo will make an appearance?



MSN 6464 will be refitted with P&W engines after CFM certification is achieved, sometime next year.
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:49 pm

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Any word yet on when/if a PW A319neo will make an appearance?



MSN 6464 will be refitted with P&W engines after CFM certification is achieved, sometime next year.

Ah I see, so using one airframe for both certification efforts. Makes sense given the general scarcity of A319neo orders (and the especial scarcity of A319neo-17x orders given 38 of the 50 orders are for CFM, and the other 12 aren't disclosed).

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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:41 am

Delivery of Novair 2nd (and last) A321neo planned today

Airbus A321 -251N 7807 SE-RKB Novair delivery 10aug17 XFW-ARN ex D-AVZB
 
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Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:13 pm

Some nice shots of the latest baby bus
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:57 pm

AirAsia takes another NEO:

Airbus A320 -251N 7778 9M-AGG AirAsia delivery 12-13aug17 TLS-KRW-KUL ex F-WWDR
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:44 pm

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Former testbed MSN 6642 is being refurbished and will eventually go to AirAsia.

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A320neo Airbus Industrie D-AVVB for AirAsia by Tobias Gudat, on Flickr


MSN 6642 has now been repaint in AirAsia livery:

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Mon Aug 14, 2017 2:36 pm

Wiki says that up to July 31st there about 135 neos delivered. Is this about right?
 
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Tue Aug 15, 2017 9:26 am

Lufthansa's 9th A320neo, MSN 7710, has been spotted with its engines:

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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Mon Aug 21, 2017 3:36 pm

ANA's first A321neo got its engines installed.

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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Tue Aug 22, 2017 8:28 am

IndiGo #23 delivered:

Airbus A320 -271N 7618 VT-ITW IndiGo Airlines delivery 21aug17 TLS-DEL ex F-WWDN
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Tue Aug 22, 2017 2:23 pm

MSN 7192, ex-Qatar, has been ferried to CHR for re-paint in IndiGo livery.

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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Thu Aug 24, 2017 9:51 am

ANA's first A321neo started taxi trials.

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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:19 am

MSN 7083 for IndiGo (ex Qatar) was ferried TLS-DRS today.
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Thu Aug 24, 2017 10:56 am

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MSN 7083 for IndiGo (ex Qatar) was ferried TLS-DRS today.


I guess it will be converted to IndiGo standard, just like MSN 6904 and 6914 did at DRS.

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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:05 pm

Frontier MSN 7727 / N313FR, named "Chocolate the Moos", has been towed to the delivery centre.

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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:14 pm

Another Sri Lankan A321neo delivered:

Airbus A321 -251N 7697 4R-AND Sri Lankan delivery 26-27aug17 XFW-DXB-CMB ex D-AZAB


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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:12 am

If a spokeswoman uses damage instead of higher than expected wear and tear and they need extra time that doesn't sound encouraging..
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Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:40 am

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If a spokeswoman uses damage instead of higher than expected wear and tear and they need extra time that doesn't sound encouraging..


Does your post has a context?
 
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Mon Aug 28, 2017 12:08 pm

MSN 7540 Sichuan Airlines #1 got its engines installed.

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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Mon Aug 28, 2017 3:56 pm

Hawaiian's first A321neo is heading into final assembly in XFW.

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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Mon Aug 28, 2017 4:34 pm

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Fri Sep 01, 2017 1:08 pm

The 3rd A320neo for Vistara Airlines has been delivered VT-TNE ferried TLS-DEL for deliverey on the 31st Aug.
 
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:30 pm

6E removes altitude restrictions for NEO:
http://wap.business-standard.com/articl ... 983_1.html

Apparently, PW told them flying at lower altitude is useless.
 
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Sat Sep 02, 2017 8:25 pm

MSN 6946 (ex-QR) has been ferried back to TLS after refurbishment at DRS. Plane will be delivered to IndiGo.

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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:06 pm

Sichuan Airlines first A320neo (MSN 7540) has moved to the delivery centre.

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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:50 pm

Another Lufthansa delivered:

Airbus A320 -271N 7648 D-AINH Lufthansa delivery 01sep17 XFW-SXF ex D-AUBW
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:53 am

Sichuan MSN 7540 delivered:

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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:20 am

S7 Siberia Airlines second A320neo (MSN 7671) got its engines installed:

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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Tue Sep 05, 2017 11:35 am

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Hawaiian's first A321neo is heading into final assembly in XFW.


Will this be the first delivered A321 with Pratt engines?


I think ANA will be first. MSN 7839 performed its first flight in August.

From a production point of view, ANA is actually the 4th customer. Unfortunately, the Pratt A321neo has a difficult customer base. The first customer, Qatar Airways, rejected the PW1100G engine and is in the progress of switching to CFM. The second customer, China Southern Airlines, cannot take delivery of the A321neo until the CAAC certifies the aircraft. On the A320neo this process took some 12 months after EASA certification to complete so it doesn't look like delivery is imminent. The third customer, Air Asatana, is in the progress of deferring its A320neo family order due to economic slowdown.

That puts ANA - the fourth customer - in front, unless the CAAC accelerates the paperwork for China Southern Airlines.

The 5th customer is Sichuan Airlines, but it just received its first A320neo and is still waiting for engines for the next three A320neo aircraft. That puts the A321neo at the end of the queue.

The 6th customer is Hawaiian Airlines, which could become the second operator of the type after ANA, or third operator if China Southern Airlines gets CAAC approval before Q4.

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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:59 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
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Any word yet on when/if a PW A319neo will make an appearance?



MSN 6464 will be refitted with P&W engines after CFM certification is achieved, sometime next year.



So, the A319neo powered by CFM Leap-1A will get its type certificate around mid-2018 and then the A319neo powered by PW1100G will be certified around mid 2019. Is that correct?
 
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:58 am

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So, the A319neo powered by CFM Leap-1A will get its type certificate around mid-2018 and then the A319neo powered by PW1100G will be certified around mid 2019. Is that correct?


That seem to be correct.
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:03 am

The PW1100G bearing retrofit seem to have improved time on wing, and new production engines are performing much better now:

"The engine manufacturer adds its on-wing improvement package for the #3 carbon seal has improved time on wing, but it is still "experiencing some removals as anticipated, due to pre-existing wear prior to the retrofit".

"New production engines with a more comprehensive improvement package have reported zero issues."


https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... nd-440681/
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:22 am

Delivery of first PW powered A321neo today?

Airbus A321 -271N 7839 JA131A ANA All Nippon delivery 06sep17 XFW-OVB ex D-AVXR
 
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:34 am

Looks like it.

As predicted earlier, ANA becomes the first Pratt A3210neo operator.
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:33 pm

VirginFlyer wrote:
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MSN 6464 will be refitted with P&W engines after CFM certification is achieved, sometime next year.

Ah I see, so using one airframe for both certification efforts. Makes sense given the general scarcity of A319neo orders (and the especial scarcity of A319neo-17x orders given 38 of the 50 orders are for CFM, and the other 12 aren't disclosed).

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What is MSN 6620 doing?

I do not understand why using one airframe for the two engines makes sense. Aren't there some differences on the pylons? Is Airbus going to change the pylon too?

This is a very curious situation that I cannot understand, unless there is a willingness to defer the A319neo/PW indefinitely or even to cancel it altogether.

This situation clearly needs a good explanation.
 
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Wed Sep 06, 2017 7:49 pm

There is no MSN 6620 anymore, the production slot was canceled.

MSN 6464 was supposed to be the P&W A319neo testbed. After it emerged from final assembly, the pylon was changed to fit the LEAP engine. Airbus can change the pylon again to fit the P&W powerplant.
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Wed Sep 06, 2017 8:15 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
There is no MSN 6620 anymore, the production slot was canceled.

MSN 6464 was supposed to be the P&W A319neo testbed. After it emerged from final assembly, the pylon was changed to fit the LEAP engine. Airbus can change the pylon again to fit the P&W powerplant.


Well-well-well, it becomes even more intriguing.

So, I would like to put it clearly.
1. MSN 6464 was supposed to be A319neo/PW flight test article
2. MSN 6620 was initially planned to be A319neo/CFM flight test article
3. MSN 6464 was converted to be an A319neo/CFM flight test article
4. MSN 6620 is now cancelled

So, the A319neo/CFM will get its type certificate around mid-2018. And then maybe, just maybe. MSN 646 will be converted back to an A319neo/PW flight test article.

Questions:
1. When will the first A319neo/CFM enter into service after its certification?
2. When will the A319neo/PW be certified?

So, what's the plan?

This is even more interesting than I initially thought.
 
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:25 am

Next delivery

Airbus A320 -251N 7768 N313FR Frontier Airlines delivery 07sep17 TLS-YYRTPA "Chocolate the Moose" ex F-WWIU
 
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:24 pm

Wiley the Bison has been delivered:

Airbus A320 -251N 7727 N313FR Frontier Airlines delivery 07sep17 TLS-YYR-TPA "Wiley the Bison" ex F-WWTV


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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Thu Sep 07, 2017 3:28 pm

After a long delay, Tianjin Airlines took delivery of its first A320neo aircraft:

Airbus A320 -271N 7333 B-8952 Tianjin Airlines delivery 07sep17 TLS-TSE ex F-WWIF


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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Mon Sep 11, 2017 1:54 pm

Lufthansa #8 has been delivered.

Airbus A320 -271N 7588 D-AING Lufthansa delivery 11sep17 XFW-SXF ex D-AUBG
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:46 pm

And another one for Avianca:

Airbus A320 -251N 7698 PR-OBJ Avianca Brasil delivery 11-12sep17 TLS-SID-POA ex F-WWTL
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:38 am

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Lufthansa #8 has been delivered.

Airbus A320 -271N 7588 D-AING Lufthansa delivery 11sep17 XFW-SXF ex D-AUBG


Erm.... considering the german inbred gift for details, precision and rule of physics, how come #8 is D-AING ? G is the seventh letter... it ought to be a H... so D-AINH would be #8, correct? :confused:
 
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:42 am

D-AING was delivered after D-AINH, so G becomes #8 from a delivery point of view.
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Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:58 am

KarelXWB wrote:
D-AING was delivered after D-AINH, so G becomes #8 from a delivery point of view.


Thank you ! that explains it.... so, D-AING was the one that had some technical issue which needed fixing. :checkmark:
 
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:32 pm

Volaris MSN 7553 made its first flight today. Interestingly, engines nacelles are painted pink instead of black.

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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:56 pm

What engines will BA's have?
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:09 pm

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Volaris MSN 7553 made its first flight today. Interestingly, engines nacelles are painted pink instead of black.

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In my opinion the "Pink" engines suit well with the livery i also noticed that the titles have been changed too its more larger.
 
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Re: Airbus A320neo Family Production Thread - Part 7

Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:14 pm

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Sichuan MSN 7540 delivered:

Airbus A320 -271N 7540 B-8949 Sichuan Airlines delivery 04sep17 TLS-TSE ex F-WWBK

Saw this beauty in Chengdu two days ago when we were taxiing to the gate. Nice.

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