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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:29 am

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 39):
And Lufthansa should receive its first A320neo during the week of the 51th.

First two actually, according to that thread.
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:47 am

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 39):
And Lufthansa should receive its first A320neo during the week of the 51th.

Does this mean like the 51st week of this year? So around Dec 20th?
 
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:51 am

Quoting crimsonchin (Reply 43):
Does this mean like the 51st week of this year?

Yes, this year. Between December 14 and 20.
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:52 am

That is how I read it. Many (esp German) companies use week numbers for scheduling.
 
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:53 am

Quoting crimsonchin (Reply 43):

Does this mean like the 51st week of this year?

As I understand it, yes
 
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:05 pm

And here we have the second LH A320neo (MSN 6864):


A320neo Lufthansa D- by XFW-Spotter, on Flickr

Still without engines though.

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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:04 am

Interesting flightpath over Ireland by D-AVVA today:
http://i64.tinypic.com/5felpv.png
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Thu Nov 19, 2015 10:54 pm

Any images of the A321neo with engines yet?
 
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:11 am

P&W certification is imminent.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...bo-after-2022-amid-slow-a380-sales

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The planemaker also expects to win certification from regulators by the end of this month for its A320neo powered by engines from Pratt & Whitney, Bregier said. Certification of an A320neo to be powered by engines from General Electric Co.’s and Safran SA’s CFM International venture is on track for certification in 2016, he said.
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Fri Nov 20, 2015 1:52 pm

CFM Leap-1A engine certification expected on November 20.

http://aviationweek.com/technology/c...ifts-veil-leap-engine-test-details
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:50 pm

JetBlue have become launch customer for “Maintenance Mobility”

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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Fri Nov 20, 2015 3:40 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 51):
CFM Leap-1A engine certification expected on November 20.

http://aviationweek.com/technology/c...tails

And now that's official!
http://www.snecma.com/media/20151120...easa/faa-certification?shadowbox=1
 
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Sat Nov 21, 2015 11:37 am

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 51):
CFM Leap-1A engine certification expected on November 20.

This is what we have available, respectively what I have managed to find:

*
. No. E.110 for Engine LEAP-1A & LEAP-1C series engines


Does it mean that the . LEAP-1A35A engine, rated at 143,05 kN - 32.160 lb s.t. is the only engine of the . LEAP-1A series certified so far or the whole accompanying technical documentation, maybe or probably, have not been arranged and published yet...

That what is quite certain, this engine is designed for the Airbus A321neo aircraft, and will be probably installed already on the Airbus A321-251N [MSN 6839], reg. D-AVXB, test aircraft ...


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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Sun Nov 22, 2015 8:53 am

A320neo P&W expecting certification this week, possibly Tuesday:
http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-...tient-sa-certification-524428.html

The article is en French, but a quick Google Translate run gave me the above info  
 
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:23 pm

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For now, it is expected that the Airbus A320neo aircraft will be certified with this type of engine; . PW1127G-JM, geared turbofan - architecture F]G[3LPC-8HPC ^ 2HPT-3LPT, 2.057 mm - 81" fan diameter, rated at 120,43 kN - 27.075 lb s.t. Whether and by some other type of the engine of the Pratt & Whitney PW1100G-JM engine series, remains to be seen ...

... and we will see how the list of the engines by which the Airbus A320neo aircraft will be certified, and complemented by, maybe and, some other Pratt & Whitney PW1100G-JM engines, as and those of . CFM LEAP-1A Series, will look like after all the engines, intended for that purpose, will be completed and certified…

In respect of the Airbus A320ceo family of aircrafts´ propulsion, three suppliers have been providing the turbofan engines for them: with its CFM56 engine [F+4LPC-9HPC ^ 1HPT-4LPT], offering the V2500 engine [F+4LPC-10HPC ^ 2HPT-5LPT] and whose PW6000 engines [F+4LPC-6HPC ^ 1HPT-3LPT] are only available for the Airbus A318 variant.

As for the Airbus A320ceo aircraft itself, it was certified with the several different types of and engines:




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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:54 pm

Quoting mfranjic (Reply 56):
In respect of the Airbus A320ceo family of aircrafts´ propulsion, three suppliers have been providing the turbofan engines for them: with its CFM56 engine [F+4LPC-9HPC ^ 1HPT-4LPT], offering the V2500 engine [F+4LPC-10HPC ^ 2HPT-5LPT] and whose PW6000 engines [F+4LPC-6HPC ^ 1HPT-3LPT] are only available for the Airbus A318 variant.

As far as I know, the PW6000 is no longer available as an option on the A318.

Secondly, your engine rating database for the A320ceo is not accurate.

The IAE V2527-A5 is available with a 26.6k rating on the A320 and A319CJ.
 
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:38 am

Quoting Chaostheory (Reply 57):
As far as I know, the PW6000 is no longer available as an option on the A318.

I could not find any source that would confirm the fact that the Airbus A318 is no longer offered with the . PW6000 engines, and the engine itself is still the same visible and present on both Airbus´ and Pratt & Whitney´s web sites as a part of their sales offer.

Quoting Chaostheory (Reply 57):
Secondly, your engine rating database for the A320ceo is not accurate.

The IAE V2527-A5 is available with a 26.6k rating on the A320 and A319CJ.

The data that I have put into my table were checked in the latest issue of the certificate of the Airbus A320 aircraft family. You may have a more accurate and fresher data so I am kindly asking You to send me the link of the document(s) in which I could see those accurate data so we could sort them together.

EASA.A.064 for AIRBUS A318 – A319 – A320 – A321

EASA.E.069 for V2500-A5 and V2500-D5 series engines

The engines of the types V2527M-A5 and V2527E-A5, aimed for Airbus ACJ as well as for the higher altitude airport Airbus A319 / Airbus A320 applications, are available with the enhanced rating, but none of those airplanes was certified with that thrust bumped engine, rated at 118,32 kN - 26.600 lb s.t..

Due to the fact that the mentioned aircrafts have not been certified with this engine, as such they are not even on offer, as can be seen in the attached certification sheet.


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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Mon Nov 23, 2015 11:46 am

Quoting mfranjic (Reply 58):
The data that I have put into my table were checked in the latest issue of the certificate of the Airbus A320 aircraft family. You may have a more accurate and fresher data so I am kindly asking You to send me the link of the document(s) in which I could see those accurate data so we could sort them together.

EASA.A.064 for AIRBUS A318 – A319 – A320 – A321

EASA.E.069 for V2500-A5 and V2500-D5 series engines

The engines of the types V2527M-A5 and V2527E-A5, aimed for Airbus ACJ as well as for the higher altitude airport Airbus A319 / Airbus A320 applications, are available with the enhanced rating, but none of those airplanes was certified with that thrust bumped engine, rated at 118,32 kN - 26.600 lb s.t..

Due to the fact that the mentioned aircrafts have not been certified with this engine, as such they are not even on offer, as can be seen in the attached certification sheet.

Just because the data isn't in the tcds, it doesn't necessarily mean the rating isn't certified and already flying. Some of the A320s I flew were certainly rated at 26.6k and a number of A319CJ operators do use the same rating.

I shall snoop around for publicly available sources.

Also, the data on the airbus website is not indicative of what is on offer in the airbus catalogues. The PW6000 had at last time of checking been dropped.

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/t534/chaostheory2/26.6k_zpsaf9njpks.jpg~original

http://www.pw.utc.com/Content/Press_Kits/pdf/ce_v2500_pCard.pdf

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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Mon Nov 23, 2015 10:01 pm

IAE V2527-A5 engine serial number V10920 thrust rating 26.6k is currently available for sale or lease by AJ Walter. Someone better let them know that rating isn't certified by the FAA or EASA!  Winkhttp://www.ajw-group.com/engines/engines-lease-sale/

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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:26 am

Another release suggesting PW certification today (24 Nov.)
http://www.touleco.fr/L-320neo-devra...ir-sa-certification-ce-mardi,17826

Different to my link in reply #55 is that this release says that both EASA and FAA certification are expected today in stead of the FAA a few days later as stated in the LaTribune link
 
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Tue Nov 24, 2015 11:43 am

The 6th Indigo A320neo (MSN 6860 / VT-ITF) emerged from paint in TLS.


F-WWBN / VT-ITF Airbus A320-271NEO smn 6860 Indigo by DigitalAirliners.com, on Flickr

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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:59 pm

Might be nothing, but the EASA website gives a new A32x family Type Certification Document:
http://i67.tinypic.com/bfl3qq.png

The website gives Issue 18 as the latest issue, but when you click the downloadlink you get issue 17, again might be nothing but maybe issue 18 includes the neo!  
 
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:23 pm

It seems the press is now receiving e-mails from Airbus that P&W powered A320neo received joint EASA and FAA certification.
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:25 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 64):
It seems the press is now receiving e-mails from Airbus that P&W powered A320neo received joint EASA and FAA certification.

Nov 24 (Reuters) - Airbus AIR.PA

Airbus' A320neo receives joint EASA and FAA type certification
“This double seal of approval represents a great achievement for Airbus. It recognizes the hard work performed by all the teams at Airbus and Pratt & Whitney. It demonstrates the A320neo is meeting all requirements,” said Fabrice Brégier, Airbus President and CEO
 
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Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:42 pm

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Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:17 pm

The video also shows the test equipment onboard MSN 6720:

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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:11 pm

so when are the first deliveries
a: possible
b: expected
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:49 pm

FF to delivery can be as low as one week for the A320 family, but I'd expect a bit more for the first NEOs. LH, which is the third airline after Qatar and Indigo, expect their first two in week 51 (14.-20. Dec).
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:26 pm

First engine run on the QR A320neo:
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CUriw52XIAA0sSC.jpg:large

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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:26 pm

Although the story on the new . A320neo aircraft has somehow silenced in last days, it will follow us yet for a long time. Now we have available EASA´s and FAA´s new certificates for both, Airbus A320-271n aircraft and its . PW1127G-JM geared turbofan engine. It remains to be seen the certification sheet of the Airbus A320-251n aircraft, powered by . LEAP-1A twin-shaft turbofans...


Airbus [A318 – A319 – A320 – A321] * * TCDS No.: EASA.A.064 Issue: 18 *
Airbus [A318 – A319 – A320 – A321] * * No. A28NM Revision 19 *


. PW1100G-JM * * TCDS No.: IME.093 Issue: 02 *
. PW1100G-JM * * TCDS NUMBER E00087EN Revision 1 *


To those . V2500 and . CFM56-5B engines, certified with the current . A320ceo aircraft, now we can add the new one . PW1127G-JM geared turbofan engine aimed for the Airbus A320-271n aircraft ...




Nice regards

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P.S.

EASA, FAA, IAE and CFM logos in the text are the links to the documents named next to them.

The Airbus A320 aircraft engines´ database I have put together according to the latest editions of the certificates of the aircraft itself as well as its . V2500 and . CFM56-5 engines.

My position is that the only authoritative source of the reliable information is the technical documentation of the relevant institutions, EASA and FAA, and which is regularly updated. All the other sources of the information, such as the brochures and different webpages might be only approximate, unprofessional and unreliable, but each of us is free to believe in what we want to, and so that the data from these sources are reliable and accurate. I have realized, if I want to stay credible and consistent, that I have no too much choice ....
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:54 pm

Quoting mfranjic (Reply 72):
My position is that the only authoritative source of the reliable information is the technical documentation of the relevant institutions, EASA and FAA, and which is regularly updated. All the other sources of the information, such as the brochures and different webpages might be only approximate, unprofessional and unreliable, but each of us is free to believe in what we want to, and so that the data from these sources are reliable and accurate. I have realized, if I want to stay credible and consistent, that I have no too much choice ....

I apologise if I came off as overbearing in my responses above.

I can be a stickler for details at times. I understand if you want your data to be consistent.
 
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Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:23 pm

Quoting speedygonzales (Reply 70):
FF to delivery can be as low as one week for the A320 family, but I'd expect a bit more for the first NEOs. LH, which is the third airline after Qatar and Indigo, expect their first two in week 51 (14.-20. Dec).

That assumes there is no or very little rework required after the certification. Do we know what the status is in that regard?
 
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Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:47 pm

Quoting Chaostheory (Reply 73):
I apologise if I came off as overbearing in my responses above.

I can be a stickler for details at times. I understand if you want your data to be consistent.

Please don´t, Chaostheory ... As for me, You really have no reason to apologize. I am sure that behind all You have written, not a smallest bad intention was existing, and Your last post clearly shows that You're a great young man. I am very pleased that we met here and I believe we will continue to meet through the different threads. After this, everything will be easier. I'm sure of it …  

Nice regards

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P.S. I ask You to trust me that Your claims on IAE V2527 engines I have not dismissed easy at all. In the meantime I was trying pretty hard to get any response and relevant information regarding V2527M-A5 and V2527E-A5 engines, so I have refered to AJW-group with three e-mails, to EASA with two e-mails and to FAA, IAE, P&W and MTU Aero Engines with one e-mail to each. So far, I did not get a single reply, but it's just a matter of moment when the responses will start coming, one by one   Since I can´t see Your e-mail address in Your profile, I am not able to forward You these e-mails, and if You are willing to see them, I´ll be very glad to share them with You. My e-mail address is available in my profile....
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:29 pm

Any pics available of the 1st A321neo's with engines attached?
 
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:40 pm

Now that the plane is certified, at least in part, I say that we open Airbus A320NEO Production and Delivery Thread Part 1.
 
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The bigger fan diameter looks so great on the NEO
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Quoting gatibosgru (Reply 79):

The bigger fan diameter looks so great on the NEO

   And I agree to that with *both* engines.   


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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:42 pm

Qatar A320neo MSN 6772 taxiing under its own power:

http://flic.kr/p/BHYY2N
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

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Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 84):

AIB772A should only be a couple of days away. Too bad XFW ground ops aren't visible on FR24.
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:17 am

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 84):
Qatar A320neo MSN 6772 taxiing under its own power:

http://flic.kr/p/BHYY2N

Interesting that they only painted (activated?) one of the overwing exits. Thats a thing I've only noticed on Saudias A320s before. Did QR choose such a low number of seats that they only need one overwing exit?


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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:25 pm

Looks like Lufthansa's first A320neo has moved to the flight line. First taxi tests should follow shortly.
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Fri Dec 04, 2015 9:16 am

Nice head shot of the first QR A320neo:


A320 Qatar Airways A7-AJB by XFW-Spotter, on Flickr
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:43 am

QR's first A320neo is now airborne on its first flight:

http://fr24.com/AIB772A/82ab947
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:05 pm

F-WNEO is over Bolivia. http://fr24.com/AIB271/82adbc7
 
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Fri Dec 04, 2015 3:28 pm

Seems that F-WNEO crossed the pond without anyone noticing.
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Fri Dec 04, 2015 4:56 pm

Quoting gatibosgru (Reply 78):
The bigger fan diameter looks so great on the NEO

I can't wait to see the A321NEO with these BIG engines. Think it will look spectacular  

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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 87):
Seems that F-WNEO crossed the pond without anyone noticing.

Oh, I noticed... Check my logbook  

Just not a fan of constantly posting look what MSNxxxx did!
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RE: Airbus A320NEO Production Thread - Part 8

Fri Dec 04, 2015 5:32 pm

Is this the hot and high campaign or just extreme altitude campaign of the PW 320NEO?
 
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