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WSJ: Disappearing Euro Flag Carriers

Thu Sep 24, 2015 3:49 pm

Read this over my morning coffee and thought it was a well written analysis of European consolidation. It's worth a look:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/europes-...aring-national-airlines-1443022201

*I didn't know Korean bought into Czech and is using Prague as a Euro beach head.
 
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RE: WSJ: Disappearing Euro Flag Carriers

Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:09 pm

The article is behind a pay wall unfortunatelly.

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RE: WSJ: Disappearing Euro Flag Carriers

Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:38 pm

Yes, very sad to see some of these old names slowly disappearing. I just recently returned from a trip to PRG and was shocked at how few OK flights are operated there now compared to the past.
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RE: WSJ: Disappearing Euro Flag Carriers

Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:43 pm

Quoting motif1 (Reply 1):
The article is behind a pay wall unfortunatelly.

Google the title and open the link via google. It defeats the wsj paywall.
 
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RE: WSJ: Disappearing Euro Flag Carriers

Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:46 pm

Quoting DL747400 (Reply 2):

Yes, very sad to see some of these old names slowly disappearing. I just recently returned from a trip to PRG and was shocked at how few OK flights are operated there now compared to the past.

Is it really sad though? I was born and raised in Eastern Europe. I look forward to the day when there are really only 3 legacy carriers. Just let the big boys do the flying, no need for airlines with fleets of 20-30 planes. Airlines prove the unfortunate fact that European countries can't move away from their history, otherwise the continent could be doing much better right now.
 
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RE: WSJ: Disappearing Euro Flag Carriers

Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:46 pm

Quoting motif1 (Reply 1):
The article is behind a pay wall unfortunatelly.

Just Google the article title. Redirected link: WSJ: Europe’s Disappearing National Airlines.
 
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RE: WSJ: Disappearing Euro Flag Carriers

Thu Sep 24, 2015 4:50 pm

Copy and paste the article title into a Google search. WSJ articles will display if you click them from a Google search.
 
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RE: WSJ: Disappearing Euro Flag Carriers

Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:07 pm

Quoting DL747400 (Reply 2):
I just recently returned from a trip to PRG and was shocked at how few OK flights are operated there now compared to the past.
Quoting ItalianFlyer (Thread starter):
*I didn't know Korean bought into Czech and is using Prague as a Euro beach head
Quoting motif1 (Reply 1):
The article is behind a pay wall unfortunately.

Well OK is in a similar situation as AB in a way: http://blogs.wsj.com/emergingeurope/...h-capital-into-csa-czech-airlines/

Still better than what happened to MA with LO and RO also being future candidates for consolidation. Smaller government owned carriers got shafted by opening markets and many have disappeared already.

As for non-EU carriers buying minority stakes in EU carriers, I think that will continue. Not everything can and should go to LH Group (i.e. SN, LO, OU, etc)
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RE: WSJ: Disappearing Euro Flag Carriers

Thu Sep 24, 2015 5:53 pm

Quoting HALtheAI (Reply 5):
Just Google the article title. Redirected link: WSJ: Europe’s Disappearing National Airlines.

Thank you for the link and thanks to the OP for the interesting article.

I for one hope that airlines like Bulgaria Air survive. I enjoy flying them very much. I have no idea how they are making it work though but there seems to be a niche with all other European carriers delegating their SOF flights to Bulgaria Air.

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