717atOGG
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N581HA Retired?

Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:40 pm

I was just checking Flightaware and noticed that N581HA flew from HNL to MCI 4 weeks ago and hasn't returned. Has it been stored or retired or is it a glitch?
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RE: N581HA Retired?

Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:12 pm

ATS performs heavy maintenance on HA's 767s at MCI.
 
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RE: N581HA Retired?

Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:34 pm

581 should be one of the last 767s to fly for HA. Right now the schedule has last 767 leaving around 2021.

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RE: N581HA Retired?

Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:06 am

Isn't 581 one of the 763ERs that HA owns outright (with 580 and 582)? Those will be the last 763s to leave HA's fleet.
 
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RE: N581HA Retired?

Sun Sep 27, 2015 3:11 pm

Ok thank you everyone.  
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RE: N581HA Retired?

Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:19 pm

Don't they have one of those old DL A models still running around?
 
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RE: N581HA Retired?

Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:50 pm

Yes they do. I saw it while landing at OGG. It's N583HA.
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RE: N581HA Retired?

Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:20 pm

N594HA is still around as well. Flew on it both ways SJC-OGG last year and saw it at OGG again last month.

I'm guessing this and 583 will be the next to go? They don't have winglets and seem to be the oldest in the fleet, being ex DL rather than new builds.

These two seem to do a disproportionate number of trips to SJC. Wonder if its planned or just a coincidence...
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RE: N581HA Retired?

Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:34 pm

Quoting 717atOGG (Reply 6):

Yes they do. I saw it while landing at OGG. It's N583HA.

583 is an ex LTU, ER still in service. AFAIK it gets retired next year. 594 is the last ex DL a/c and will also be retired sooner than later. This leaves the remaining 6 -ERs with winglets, 580-582 and 588, 590 and 592.
 
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RE: N581HA Retired?

Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:44 pm

583 only has 98,000 hours on it, and just 17000 cycles. Plenty of life left in her. 594, though it has just 87,000 hours, has an incredible 35,000 cycles. That's getting into WN levels of utilization.
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RE: N581HA Retired?

Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:47 pm

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 9):
583 only has 98,000 hours on it, and just 17000 cycles. Plenty of life left in her. 594, though it has just 87,000 hours, has an incredible 35,000 cycles. That's getting into WN levels of utilization.

583 has flown long-haul all her life and 594 presumably flew quite a bit of domestic short hauls at DL before joining HAL and the t-pac world. I would imagine when 583 is retired it will join her sisters 584, 585 and 586 in the scrap yard.
 
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RE: N581HA Retired?

Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:09 am

Quoting 717atOGG (Thread starter):

It's in MCI for a mx check and is leaving soon, only to be replaced by another 767 for a similar check.
 
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RE: N581HA Retired?

Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:31 am

I'll be sorry to see the B763's go. They were always a nice ride. Seats and space seemed decent and its still nice to fly a widebody across the Pacific.

Slightly illogical that I would prefer a 25 year old B767 over a new B738 I know, but there's something reassuring about an old Boeing!

I guess SJC is a prime candidate for the A321 which to my mind will be a downgrade...
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RE: N581HA Retired?

Mon Sep 28, 2015 11:45 am

Unless something has changed N583HA and N594HA will be gone soon. 1 this year. the other early next year.
The 7 others will be around for at least 10 more years.
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RE: N581HA Retired?

Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:26 pm

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 13):
Unless something has changed N583HA and N594HA will be gone soon. 1 this year. the other early next year.
The 7 others will be around for at least 10 more years.

Not quite. 589 left earlier this year and 587 recently left the fleet. Presumably 583 and 594 will be retired next year, leaving the final 6 to fly until the 2020 timeframe. Of course, these fleet plans are always subject to change. Just my opinion, but I wouldn't be surprised to see 767 retirements accelerated once the 321neo's start arriving.

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