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SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:54 am

According to several sources, SAS will commence operations from CPH to BOS 26th march 2016. The service will be daily.

Source: http://www.business.dk/transport/sas-lancerer-fire-nye-ruter (only in danish, but this article cites a representative from SAS so I guess that it's official very soon)

The layout of the machine will be 20 business-seats and 66 seats in economy.

[Edited 2015-10-08 02:57:00]

[Edited 2015-10-08 02:57:38]
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:14 am

Talk about the rich getting richer! Go BOS!
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 10:53 am

Press release from SAS

http://www.sasgroup.net/en/sas-intro...w-daily-service-boston-copenhagen/

From Copenhagen: SK927 will depart daily at 12:50 arriving in Boston at 15:20.
From Boston: SK928 will depart daily at 17:30 arriving at 07.00 the following day.
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:20 am

Will this be in addition to the 737 operating the NYC route (and previously the SVG-IAH route)?
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:25 am

Quoting seansasLCY (Reply 3):
Will this be in addition to the 737 operating the NYC route (and previously the SVG-IAH route)?

737 on CPH-EWR is only in the winter season. When CPH-BOS starts the 737 is transfered to this route while SK901/902, the evening CPH-EWR flight, goes to A330/A340 as planned
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:26 am

I think, for summer they will change 2nd daily CPH-EWR to widebody and then will move Privatair 737 to BOS route. AFAIK, SAS is not able to cancel 737 lease for sometime.
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 12:42 pm

Wow - another nice addition Logan! Boston continues to attract carriers - GO BOS! Now this just leaves LATAM pending for Logan addition.
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:24 pm

I have a friend who flew them back to Houston, with only 5 pax...A few months ago.
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:38 pm

This is the way to use the wetleased Privatair 737... to initiate and explore new routes, and then upgauge is successful. Congrats BOS and SAS.
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:47 pm

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 4):
737 on CPH-EWR is only in the winter season. When CPH-BOS starts the 737 is transfered to this route while SK901/902, the evening CPH-EWR flight, goes to A330/A340 as planned

Could this possibly be that SK had contracted the Privatair 737 for a number of years and now has to find another use for it, after it's intended route got axed?
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 1:48 pm

Smart way to put the plane to *some* use instead of wasting it on yet another EWR frequency zzzz
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:00 pm

2 month head start on DY and Daily.... very smart move by SK.
That feeling when you sit at the end of a runway, brakes are released and the raw power takes over. Now that is a thing of beauty and it never gets old.
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:06 pm

Wow BOS keeps it on ... amazing!

A big kudos to Massport, SK, BOS ...

Quoting VS4ever (Reply 11):

2 month head start on DY and Daily.... very smart move by SK.

   that's exactly what I was thinking!
Someone must have said "DY may get OSL, but CPH is ours"  
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:06 pm

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 9):
Could this possibly be that SK had contracted the Privatair 737 for a number of years and now has to find another use for it, after it's intended route got axed?

This is exactly the reason, this route is a damage limitation exercise. The Privatair BBJ has to earn some revenue to cover the wet lease contract so brilliantly negotiated by SK management.
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:30 pm

BOS is en fuego! Developments in terminal E should be interesting to watch!
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 2:35 pm

Quoting invaders (Thread starter):
According to several sources, SAS will commence operations from CPH to BOS 26th march 2016. The service will be daily.

And *A just keeps getting bigger and bigger at BOS. Who could have guessed it after US merged with AA that it would lead to a *A international expansion.

Quoting VS4ever (Reply 11):
2 month head start on DY and Daily.... very smart move by SK.

I don't think these 2 services share the same customer base. The Privatair flight is an all J service while DY is a LCC. They couldn't be further apart  
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:01 pm

Quoting airbazar (Reply 15):
The Privatair flight is an all J service while DY is a LCC. They couldn't be further apart

not on this application ...they are 20J/66Y for this service
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 3:36 pm

Quoting airbazar (Reply 15):
I don't think these 2 services share the same customer base. The Privatair flight is an all J service while DY is a LCC. They couldn't be further apart  

I get that, but i would also state getting a 2 month recognition of a daily flight ahead of the competition who are only flying 1 weekly to start with is no bad thing.

This could be a prelude to future expansion, so while the market isn't initially the same, the future might be. But get in on the ground floor while you still can.
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:01 pm

So we know where the 737 on IAH-SVG is going to.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD BRING BACK THE PAYWALL!!!!
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:01 pm

Quoting VS4ever (Reply 11):
2 month head start on DY and Daily.... very smart move by SK.

Hmm. Maybe. I'm a bit sceptical, particularly if this is for damage limitation. 86 passengers is not a lot, but you still have a full crew.

I don't doubt that there are customers, but I doubt ultimate profitability of this route. Now, if it were run by DY or similar on narrow bodies, with a lower cost level... maybe I'd be more positive.
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:06 pm

Quoting AirlineCritic (Reply 19):
Hmm. Maybe. I'm a bit sceptical, particularly if this is for damage limitation. 86 passengers is not a lot, but you still have a full crew.

I don't doubt that there are customers, but I doubt ultimate profitability of this route. Now, if it were run by DY or similar on narrow bodies, with a lower cost level... maybe I'd be more positive.

Also true, but could this also be a market test for them, to see if its going to work. I grant you profitability is definitely going to be tough without commanding premium prices, but if it's seen as a way to get into the market as a loss leader and grow from there, i'd see that as a good move. No different really to EK testing with a 772 then up gauging (albeit on a very different seat level).

However given the history here, I suspect sadly you maybe closer to the mark.
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:37 pm

So their bet is that what failed in Houston will work in Boston, and I think with it being a shorter flight, a smaller plane, and with Boston being a more 'diversified' market, it might work. No one should look for any bargain fares, though.
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 4:42 pm

Quoting invaders (Thread starter):

Now, it is also important to note that in the article it is mentioned that: "[Boston] (...) is a hotspot for the american biotech-industry and has long been high on the wishlist among danish companies" why I would guess that SAS has a substantial customer basis for opening the route - and even when doing it daily from the start.

So let's guess: what will be the next destination for SAS´s long haul operation?

[Edited 2015-10-08 09:43:26]
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 5:09 pm

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 9):
Could this possibly be that SK had contracted the Privatair 737 for a number of years and now has to find another use for it, after it's intended route got axed?

The aircraft is on a three year lease to SAS

Quoting ChrisNH (Reply 21):
So their bet is that what failed in Houston will work in Boston, and I think with it being a shorter flight, a smaller plane, and with Boston being a more 'diversified' market, it might work. No one should look for any bargain fares, though.

SVG-IAH was with an all business configuration on a rather long route to cater for a niche market. CPH-BOS will be two-class configuration and a much more diverse market that SVG-IAH
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:18 pm

Nice addition to BOS! Today we have no non-stop service to Scandinavia and in the next 7 months we'll have 2 carriers flying non-stop there. Very nice!

I get that SAS needed somewhere to send this 737 since it's still under contract. But I also wonder if due to their schedule they're looking to operate, if the 737 was the only size aircraft they could use due to gate constraints @ BOS for a 3:20pm arrival?

[Edited 2015-10-08 11:30:57]
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:32 pm

Quoting clrd4t8koff (Reply 24):
But I also wonder if due to their schedule they're looking to operate, if the 737 was the only size aircraft they could use due to gate constraints @ BOS for a 3:20pm arrival?

They use the 737 because that is the only aircraft they have available. Alle their A330/A340 capacity is fully utilized next summer
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 6:59 pm

Quoting Someone83 (Reply 25):
They use the 737 because that is the only aircraft they have available. Alle their A330/A340 capacity is fully utilized next summer

Sorry to go a bit off-topic. What aircraft has SK ordered to replace their A340s and A330s? Are they planning for a split A330NEO and A350 future widebody fleet?
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 7:41 pm

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 26):
Sorry to go a bit off-topic. What aircraft has SK ordered to replace their A340s and A330s? Are they planning for a split A330NEO and A350 future widebody fleet?

They've ordered A330-300 Enhanced, which is one of the names for the 242tn MTOW variant with longer range. They've also ordered A350-900 which will arrive in a few years. The first A330-300E has already arrived. SK is keeping the current A330-300s for a while longer, they've just been retrofitted with new cabin config during heavy maintenance. The A340s will also be kept longer than originally planned, and some if not all will also get the new cabin config.
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:50 pm

Quoting JetBuddy (Reply 27):

What I fail to see is what SK´s future expansion can lie in - in my POV SK simpely hasn´t got the planes ((8 A359s), 4 A333-242ts (2 are to be delivered) & 4 233ts and 8 A343s) for a future expansion. With a current LH fleet of 14 airliners, from where 8 are quads, my bet is that SK is going to have to order some new airplanes some time in the future.
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:39 pm

Quoting ZealandFlyer (Reply 28):
What I fail to see is what SK´s future expansion can lie in - in my POV SK simpely hasn´t got the planes ((8 A359s), 4 A333-242ts (2 are to be delivered) & 4 233ts and 8 A343s) for a future expansion. With a current LH fleet of 14 airliners, from where 8 are quads, my bet is that SK is going to have to order some new airplanes some time in the future.

Since they'll keep the original A330-300s, they'll end up with a slightly larger widebody fleet after the new planes have been delivered. But I think you're right.. they will need more widebodies if they want to keep on expanding. Which is the reason they've decided to keep the A340s flying for a bit longer.. but eventually they'll need replacements.

Personally I think the A330neo would be a great fit. Tons of commonality with the original A330, and Rolls-Royce engines with partial commonality with their current RR powered fleet. The A350-900 is great, but might be a bit large for some routes.
 
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:40 pm

Congrats to SK  
Quoting VS4ever (Reply 11):

DY will probably get affected a lot with them just operating 1x weekly over SK operating Daily.
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Thu Oct 08, 2015 9:48 pm

Thanks a lot JetBuddy.
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RE: SAS To Open BOS From CPH On Privatair 737

Fri Oct 09, 2015 2:15 pm

Official Boston Globe story: https://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2015/10/08/scandinavian-airlines-offer-nonstop-service-copenhagen/c78Gf7YidYlI6FEjveDWwJ/story.html

Keep it going Logan!

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