Qantas59
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QF DC-4 Staffing Question

Fri Oct 09, 2015 10:01 pm

Qantas continued to operate the DC-4 until February of 1977 on SYD-NLK.
My question is if anyone on this forum knows if actual QF flight and cabin staff crewed these flights, or were they crewed by other arrangements?
Thanks for any info.
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zkncj
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RE: QF DC-4 Staffing Question

Sat Oct 10, 2015 12:10 am

Weren't the NLK services at some stage part of an wetlease with NZ/
 
Gemuser
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RE: QF DC-4 Staffing Question

Sat Oct 10, 2015 12:11 am

Quoting Qantas59 (Thread starter):
if actual QF flight and cabin staff crewed these flights, or were they crewed by other arrangements?

Most definitely "normal" Qantas staff. The idea of "outsourcing" flight staff did not exist in this country, at that time. I flew the service in mid 1972.

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Gemuser
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RE: QF DC-4 Staffing Question

Sat Oct 10, 2015 12:22 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 1):

Weren't the NLK services at some stage part of an wetlease with NZ/

The NLK-AKL sector was in "association" with ANZ, whether that was a wet lease or something else I don't know. The SYD-NLK sector was a straight QF service.

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Viscount724
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RE: QF DC-4 Staffing Question

Sat Oct 10, 2015 12:32 am

Quoting gemuser (Reply 3):
The NLK-AKL sector was in "association" with ANZ, whether that was a wet lease or something else I don't know. The SYD-NLK sector was a straight QF service.

Operated by QF but with a TE flight number, much like today's codeshares.
 
Jetstar315
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RE: QF DC-4 Staffing Question

Sun Oct 11, 2015 6:55 am

There's a pretty good history of flights between SYD-NLK and AKL in the following:

http://www.livinglibrary.edu.nf/_/Ai..._operated_into_Norfolk_Island.html

The 1955-1975 section relating to NLK-AKL charters by QF is not quite accurate. QF chartered their DC-4s to Tasman Empire Airways Limited (TEAL) 1955-1965 using QF Tech and Cabin Crew, and then TEAL changed their name to Air NZ. The new company continued the use of the QF DC-4s from 1975-1977 (still completely crewed by QF) when QF finally withdrew the DC-4s from service, and then used NZNAC F27s.

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