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Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Sun Oct 11, 2015 6:13 pm

Would this even be possible? MH 370 being found in the Philippines?

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/...8.html?cx_tag=recommend4u#cxrecs_s

This seems to be quite far off from the "7th arc" and completely in the opposite direction from where they are searching and doesn't fit in with the Flaperon found recently on Reunion island.
 
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:38 pm

If this turn to be true:

We will have the CVR and FDR.

It will be on of the most bizarre things to happen in modern times

Will give a Black eye to a lot of military guys in a half dozen countries....

Completely INSANE if true.

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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:53 am

Is that island so remote that an ELT would have never been picked up? Seems highly unlikely...
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:54 am

And let's hope this doesn't get hidden also like what happend to the last piece of evidence from MH 370 (the part of the wing that was found on the island of Reunion).
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:01 am

Quoting RL757PVD (Reply 3):
Is that island so remote that an ELT would have never been picked up? Seems highly unlikely...

ELT's aren't the be all to end all that the media would make them out to be. They do fail.

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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 3:28 am

Latest news is that a SKELETON was found in the wreckage. This seems very improbable to me. Would a skeleton have decomposed or been eaten by fish in that time?
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:05 am

Quoting Lesfalls (Reply 4):
And let's hope this doesn't get hidden also like what happend to the last piece of evidence from MH 370 (the part of the wing that was found on the island of Reunion).

When you say "hidden" do you actually mean "transported by the country it was found in to a facility where its world-respected air accident investigation service could examine it"?

It is normal for the French BEA to issue interim public reports only if they discover something that requires immediate action to safeguard similar aircraft still flying. Otherwise you have to wait for the definitive report.
 
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:17 am

Quoting penguins (Reply 6):
This seems very improbable to me. Would a skeleton have decomposed or been eaten by fish in that time?

Well..not a lot of fish eat bones. They may have picked off the flesh, but the bones would still be there. If this fisherman saw the plane, with Malaysia paint on it, it may be sticking out of the water a bit, which would not make intact skeletons completely out of the realm of possibility. Am I skeptical? Of course, then again, stranger things have happened. I would guess it would likely turn out to be another false lead. Hopefully, I am wrong though!
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:35 am

Location of Tawi-Tawi just across from Malaysia, wonder if hijacking by Mindanao sepratists gone wrong.



[Edited 2015-10-11 23:37:36]
 
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:56 am

Folks, they haven't even confirmed what they found, isn't it far too early to speculate? Just saying...
 
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:05 am

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 10):
Folks, they haven't even confirmed what they found, isn't it far too early to speculate? Just saying...

Well..whats the point of this post then, if not to speculate??
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:23 am

Information? The news is interesting, but speculation is pointless unless the finding is confirmed.
 
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:01 am

Generally, I find the report hard to believe. Here's one of the reasons why:

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A report had been lodged at the Sandakan police station claiming that the wreckage was discovered in a forest at Pulau Sugbay, Tawi-Tawi in the Philippines early September.

So a potentially groundbreaking discovery has been made over a month ago and nobody has been able to verify it yet?
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:14 am

"The report also claimed human skeletal remains and a 70-inch by 35-inch Malaysian flag were inside the plane."


A "70-inch by 35-inch Malaysian flag" is basic equipment for a non government 777 ?
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:14 am

I looked up that island on Google Earth which has imagery from 2015. The island is tiny (about 3km long) and the imagery pretty high resolution (you get a good clear image of those shacks in the south). Wouldn't you think if the wreckage was there you'd either see parts of it, or at least a change of the vegetation in that area?

http://goo.gl/maps/4mNA9ihoyAo

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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:23 am

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 15):
I looked up that island on Google Earth which has imagery from 2015

Great work indeed. If the islands that you gave us the link for really is the island referred to, I find the whole story extremely difficult to believe as there is a small accumulation of huts in the island's south and I doubt that if a plane goes down on an island as tiny as this one, nobody will feel or see the impact and that it will take more than a year to find parts of an object as large as a Boeing 777
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 8:44 am

It wouldn't surprise me if there was a Malaysian aircraft there, but I find the idea of it being MH370 highly fanciful.

Generally your average fisherman isn't up to speed on aircraft types, it is easy to see how someone can see part of a crashed light aircraft with a Malaysian registration with flag, and associate it with the MH370 event.


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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:11 am

Quoting lgaviation (Reply 16):
If the islands that you gave us the link for really is the island referred to

I'm pretty sure this is it. The link in the first post reads: "A report had been lodged at the Sandakan police station claiming that the wreckage was discovered in a forest at Pulau Sugbay, Tawi-Tawi in the Philippines early September."

Pulau Sugbay is the island, Tawi-Tawi is the province, and that's exactly where my Google Earth link takes you.

But there's no 777 wreckage there, so we might as well lock this thread and go on with our lives.

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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:21 am

I didn't doubt you, I just have a bit of skepticism regarding newspaper articles based on a line of Philippine sources ending with some Filipino fisherman not even personally contacted by the newspaper.
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:45 am

They found A skeleton in the pilot's seat. One. Also, the current national Malaysian flag dates back to 1963:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Malaysian_flags

This is another aircraft. It may well have been there for decades. The flag may even be an even older provincial flag.

The state of the skeleton is in itself no indication of age. In the jungle, a body can turn into a skeleton within weeks. I see no mention of the A/C being in the water, did I miss that part?

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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:17 pm

Quoting lgaviation (Reply 16):
If the islands that you gave us the link for really is the island referred to, I find the whole story extremely difficult to believe

There is not even an airstrip it seems.

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 18):
But there's no 777 wreckage there, so we might as well lock this thread and go on with our lives.

Fully agreed on that.
It's interesting though how rumours like that come about or how they are created.
Maybe there is a hitherto undiscovered single-engine wreck of some description.
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:37 pm

Quoting seahawk (Reply 12):
Information? The news is interesting, but speculation is pointless unless the finding is confirmed.

This is A.net - without speculation, the MH370 threads would be up to Part 2 about now, not 80-something...
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:16 pm

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 15):
I looked up that island on Google Earth which has imagery from 2015.

Imagery is from 11/29/2013 on my Google Earth. The copyright is 2015, but the imagery date on the lower right corner is 1013.

If this was a credible report the media would be all over it by now. Nothing to see here...
 
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:26 pm

Quoting copter808 (Reply 23):
Nothing to see here...

Well said. Yet another goofy conspiracy theory.
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:09 pm

Quoting copter808 (Reply 23):
Imagery is from 11/29/2013 on my Google Earth

That's still after the incident. And even better, in 2013 the trail in the vegetation would be even more visible than in 2015.

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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:21 pm

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 25):
That's still after the incident. And even better, in 2013 the trail in the vegetation would be even more visible than in 2015.

But the plane disappeared on March 8th 2014.

Either way, i really doubt that a 777 could crash without a trace on such a small island which has a human settlement on it.

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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:50 pm

Quoting Lesfalls (Reply 4):

And let's hope this doesn't get hidden also like what happend to the last piece of evidence from MH 370 (the part of the wing that was found on the island of Reunion).

What are you referring to? As far as i know nothing was hidden about the flap.
 
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:53 pm

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 10):
isn't it far too early to speculate?

Well, isn't that what we do on a.net with every crash (or incident) thread?
 
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:57 pm

Quoting 747megatop (Reply 28):
Well, isn't that what we do on a.net with every crash (or incident) thread?

Or order, or merger, or new route, or canceled route, or new livery, or...
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:03 pm

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 24):
Well said. Yet another goofy conspiracy theory.

agree
 
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:19 pm

Quoting 747megatop (Reply 28):
Quoting N14AZ (Reply 10):
isn't it far too early to speculate?

Well, isn't that what we do on a.net with every crash (or incident) thread?
Quoting rangercarp (Reply 29):
Or order, or merger, or new route, or canceled route, or new livery, or...

From the forum rules:

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Of course, sometimes we tend to speculate due to lack of new information. But this case is so "bizare" and as many posters said most probably not related to MH370, that I think it's much to early to speculate such as "hijacking by Mindanao sepratists gone wrong" for example...

Ok, that's just my opinion. Go ahead if you think its worthwile.
 
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:30 pm

A bit confused lately? The pieces found in Reunion belonged to the MH370? Or these pieces in Philippines? Is a bit far away one place to the other, and I don't believe in the "bilocation" of a plane wreckage.
Plus: why is there so little press about MH370 lately? Also about MH17? The final report should be ready in the next few weeks, but... So far it seems these two planes not only vanished from the sky but also from most media (western and eastern media)...
 
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:35 pm

The whole "skeleton strapped into the cockpit with a flag waving in the background" seems like something I'd see at a pirate themed mini-golf course.

If this turns out to be legitimate wreckage of MH370 I'd be very-very-very surprised. I doubt the wreckage even exists and was a rumor that got passed around by islanders that some how, made its way to a news outlet.
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:47 pm

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 25):
That's still after the incident. And even better, in 2013 the trail in the vegetation would be even more visible than in 2015.

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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:24 pm

Quoting eielef (Reply 32):
Also about MH17? The final report should be ready in the next few weeks, but... So far it seems these two planes not only vanished from the sky but also from most media

Tomorrow, actually, for the MH17 report:
MH17 Final Report Published 13 October 2015 (by factsonly Oct 12 2015 in Civil Aviation)

But with little to no new information, why would you expect any media coverage? There were reports when the flaperon was found and when French authorities issued preliminary results of their examination, but until more information is known, you won't see much media coverage.
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:28 pm

Quoting Andy33 (Reply 7):
It is normal for the French BEA to issue interim public reports only if they discover something that requires immediate action to safeguard similar aircraft still flying. Otherwise you have to wait for the definitive report.

Beyond the news that internal part #s within the part confirming it was a part of the MH370 airframe, not quite sure what else we'd be expecting them to say.

It's not like the metal parts can tell us where the rest of the plane is.
 
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:00 pm

Quoting litz (Reply 36):
Beyond the news that internal part #s within the part confirming it was a part of the MH370 airframe, not quite sure what else we'd be expecting them to say.

Depending on the type of damage to the part, they may be able to determine if it separated in a "low" speed ditching or due to aerodynamic forces in a high speed dive, those sort of things.
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:12 pm

Quoting copter808 (Reply 23):
If this was a credible report the media would be all over it by now. Nothing to see here...

I wouldn't give the media that much credit, but it does seem unlikely.
 
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:04 pm

The whole thing seems very odd, from the parts in France that took so long to verify to this potential development. The whole thing from day 1 has been a huge mess, as Tim Clark said, someone knows something and for whatever reason it is being kept private.
 
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:57 pm

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 30):
Ok, that's just my opinion. Go ahead if you think its worthwile.

And you can always not read this topic. The fact is, this is about a real event that happened and is a rumour or news story about that real event. I am not saying that I believe the story, just saying this talk is about a real factual event that happened, like it or not.
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:54 am

Quoting penguins (Reply 5):
Latest news is that a SKELETON was found in the wreckage. This seems very improbable to me. Would a skeleton have decomposed or been eaten by fish in that time?

I found a picture of the fishermen finding the wreck
http://www.alicia-logic.com/capsimages/rts_076TurnerDouglas.jpg
 
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:30 am

sure looks like the front of a dc 3/4 def not a B777

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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:55 am

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 4):

ELT's aren't the be all to end all that the media would make them out to be. They do fail.

ELT's are not required on jets, because the assumption is that jets are always on instrument flight plans and hence there whereabouts are always known. This has proved to be an unsafe assumption many times, but the rule has not yet been changed to the best of my knowledge.

Quoting txjim (Reply 40):

I found a picture of the fishermen finding the wreck

That is clearly a Douglas prop plane, not a 777.
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:00 am

Quoting greasespot (Reply 41):
sure looks like the front of a dc 3/4 def not a B777

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Quoting txjim (Reply 40):
I found a picture of the fishermen finding the wreck
http://www.alicia-logic.com/capsimages/rts_076TurnerDouglas.jpg

TXJIM is a big fan of Romancing the Stone I'd say.
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:02 am

Quoting greasespot (Reply 41):
sure looks like the front of a d dc 3/4 def not a B777

Agree, but looks like a capture from a movie to me.

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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:03 am

Quoting SEPilot (Reply 42):
That is clearly a Douglas prop plane, not a 777.

True enough, Michael Douglas was the producer of the 1984 movie that used this prop.
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:15 am

Quoting txjim (Reply 40):
I found a picture of the fishermen finding the wreck
http://www.alicia-logic.com/capsimag...s.jpg

Sure looks like Harrison Ford, or Michael Douglas.

[Edited 2015-10-12 19:24:52]
 
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:41 am

Quoting txjim (Reply 40):

I'm going to take a wild guess and suggest possibly that it was an attempt at humour!

Interestingly though- because it's the Philippines 90% of the world has discounted this... Because it doesn't fit with the Inmarsat calculations.

I won't discard anything for now- but even back in the mh370 threads (prolly around part 20) I was saying I wasn't comfortable with the calculations being treated as infallible, no matter how much peer reviewing is done.

I'm not saying it's wrong, just that I wouldn't be surprised if it were... It happens a lot- Beagle 2, the faster than the speed of light burst from gran sasso to CERN...
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:47 am

Quoting liquidair (Reply 47):

The discovery of the flaperon on Reunion Island puts more credibility to the Inmarsat theory, and less on this new "discovery".

Unless you're a proponent of the "America did it" conspiracy theory, that is.
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RE: Bizarre MH 370 Wreckage Claim

Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:52 am

I wonder if this 'sighting' is just a scam for the locals to get some spending and $$$$'s or attention from the government. Most likely this is an old crash that no one realized had happened, possibly from WWII.

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