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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:06 pm

The airline industry's war on color continues. Blandness will assimilate you. Resistance is futile.

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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Mon Nov 02, 2015 5:16 pm

Unfortunately I don't think CX cares what A-nutters think, perhaps Twitter or other online media need to see the public opinion. I wouldn't put it past a company to self employ "likes" to artificially favour themselves.
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:46 pm

Quoting winterlight (Reply 199):

Why? I know he's a designer or marketing guy, but does he work for Landor???  Wow!
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Mon Nov 02, 2015 11:30 pm

I like this new livery or 'slight tweaking of a timeless livery'.

The new livery still looks timeless and elegant yet simple and refreshing.

Sometimes less is more.

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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:24 am

Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 197):
Good god I wish they would go away.

I make the judgement based on CX being a listed client of Landor, perhaps they could have separated, but it seems unlikely. Their most recent tweaks of previous liveries have been a bit half fast but their other work is extremely impressive, they're behind the old CX livery, SQ, Etihad, Garuda, TK and of course the gorgeous BA Landor scheme.
 
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:45 am

Looking at the pics on the database, I actually like it. I think it's a good refresh on a livery that was starting to show it's age (very 90s). It is simple but I think it is very powerful. At the end of the day, from a brand point of view, the brush wing stands out on the tail and in the nose.

Btw, am I the only one that sees the "gray" stripe across the fuselage as light green? It looks light green to me.

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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:48 am

Now they need to change their name to Pastel Pacific. -ir

Quoting Coal (Reply 205):
Btw, am I the only one that sees the "gray" stripe across the fuselage as light green? It looks light green to me.

I see it as light blue-green (sometimes called 'sea foam'). -ir
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:59 am

Quoting Coal (Reply 205):
Btw, am I the only one that sees the "gray" stripe across the fuselage as light green? It looks light green to me.

I see it as a light grayish-greenish blue. Blue being the predominate color with a bit of green, and grey undertones. It's too blue and too light to be seafoam.
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Tue Nov 03, 2015 3:24 am

Quoting eal (Reply 196):
This, I would believe, is the work of Landor Associates.

It's not. The CX rebranding was handled by Eight, an HKG-based design firm.

http://www.underconsideration.com/br..._pacific_by_eight.php#.VjgonK6rRGM
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:10 am

They're based in Wan Chai the red light district of Hong Kong, starting to explain a lot!
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:53 am

Quoting CCA (Reply 209):
the red light district of Hong Kong

More like the Williamsburg of HK. Get your facts right.

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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:45 am

Quoting CCA (Reply 209):
They're based in Wan Chai the red light district of Hong Kong, starting to explain a lot!

What on earth are you talking about? Wan Chai is a prime business district in Hong Kong with one of the most expensive rent on the planet. The so call "red-light" district is really only 1 street of pubs and bars that used to cater to US navy in the past.

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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:26 am

Quoting YLWbased (Reply 211):
What on earth are you talking about? Wan Chai is a prime business district in Hong Kong with one of the most expensive rent on the planet. The so call "red-light" district is really only 1 street of pubs and bars that used to cater to US navy in the past.

Everywhere is expensive, besides the fact either side of Wan Chai is more expensive, Causeway Bay and Admiralty!

That "one" street runs right through Wan Chai, and it doesn't need the US Navy to function all year round.
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:22 am

It does seem a little bland. I associate full-service airlines with sophistication so this paint seems at odds at my image of Cathay.

As for that comment about Wan Chai, it really belongs to teenage imageboards, not a premier discussion site like A.net. It's like saying Regent Street businesses in London are bonkers for being right beside the red light district (Soho).
 
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:29 am

White has become a premium colour. You only need to look at top car manufactures to see them offering white. In a minimalistic world white is the new red which was the new black.

It looks clean and smart and truly reflects what I would expect from CX. If you want loads of colour just look back at BA's attempt and see how things fail big time.
 
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:21 pm

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 208):
rebranding was handled by Eight

Does this mean CX dumped Landor?
 
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Tue Nov 03, 2015 1:08 pm

Ad in the wordmark, why oh why does the top of the 'A' go above the top line for the other letters, if ever so slightly.

Quoting Lofty (Reply 214):
If you want loads of colour just look back at BA's attempt and see how things fail big time.

You're exaggerating what people have said about the red acting as a highlight to the many shades of green. No one is calling for a rainbow. Just...some kind of something to instill a bit of personality.
 
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:35 pm

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 216):
Ad in the wordmark, why oh why does the top of the 'A' go above the top line for the other letters, if ever so slightly.

Quoting Lofty (Reply 214):
If you want loads of colour just look back at BA's attempt and see how things fail big time.

You're exaggerating what people have said about the red acting as a highlight to the many shades of green. No one is calling for a rainbow. Just...some kind of something to instill a bit of personality.

Yup, completely agree with what you are saying here... Just because some people feel things livery is bland and needed color, it doesn't mean we need a rainbow either. Certain accent of color (like the previous livery) is what was needed to bring out the overall look of the design. And I think those people who doesn't like the negative feedback doesn't quite get this point. So Yes color is needed, but we are not asking for a rainbow.
 
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:00 pm

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 208):
It's not. The CX rebranding was handled by Eight, an HKG-based design firm.

http://www.underconsideration.com/br..._pacific_by_eight.php#.VjgonK6rRGM

Interesting.

Quoting Lofty (Reply 214):
It looks clean and smart and truly reflects what I would expect from CX.

The clean, minimalist aspect grows on you, and it is how they say, "on trend". A lot of designers always say less is more, well often not.

What bothers me most is the interaction between the dark of the tailfin right up against the light of the upper empennage. Secondly, I would have tapered that hugely thick cheatline narrower towards the nose. Thirdly, I might have put a thin pinstripe of Jade green between the white upper fuselage and the greenish-blue lower sides from the nose, gradually fading away to nothing in the middle of doors 1 and 2.

Quoting Lofty (Reply 214):
If you want loads of colour just look back at BA's attempt and see how things fail big time.

Now the BA Utopia tailfins (or 'World Tails' as some called them) were truly magnificent. Leave it to some stiff a.. Brits not to appreciate the significance or artistry. BA truly was then what EK is today.
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:41 am

Love the new livery. The tail looks like it has come out hiding! Well done. Can't wait to see her in YYZ!!

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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:49 am

Quoting CF-CPI (Reply 167):
When are they going to finish painting it?

That was my gut reaction as well. As if it started the first session in the paint shop, then suddenly stopped.

How utterly bland. They didn't even try a swoosh-type extension from the tail fin or anything. Just a couple of lazy stamp-ons, re-use the logo on the side, and that's it.
 
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Wed Nov 04, 2015 4:18 am

Overall, I like the new branding, but the new livery bothers me. The tail seems out of place with the rest of the design. Heavy color on the tail with light on the rest.

I took the liberty and adjusted the tail as I saw fit. Seems to flow a bit better, IMO. *ducks*   

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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:17 am

Quoting f18raider (Reply 221):
Overall, I like the new branding, but the new livery bothers me. The tail seems out of place with the rest of the design. Heavy color on the tail with light on the rest.

Absolutely agree. And your effort looks pretty excellent to me.

And with just a touch of red - needed to offset the almost ill looking lighter tones - I think this could have been a real win.

I wonder what Landor are thinking right now.
 
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:40 am

Agree the tail looks stuck on like a bad plastic model, I attempted to come up with a modification but my computer froze  
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:16 pm

Quoting eal (Reply 215):

Landor was not dumped. Landor finished up their relationship years ago.

I am glad to see they kept Landor's #1 most important contribution: the "Brush Wing" symbol. Liveries change over time, but just like Singapore, Thai, Alitalia (also by Landor), they didn't throw out the baby, just freshened the bath water.

I think it became bland, I miss the touch of red IMHO, but it still carries the airline's LOGO and basic unique blue-green color. Landor can still clam the best part. (and I am being objective as I am no longer with Landor)
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:29 pm

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 216):
Ad in the wordmark, why oh why does the top of the 'A' go above the top line for the other letters, if ever so slightly.

It is pretty common with some letters ('o' or 'e' being typical examples) to make them slightly larger so they visually appear the same size as other letters when viewed from a distance. Making the A the same size as the others can, based on the shape, make it appear visually smaller than the others and thus a little strange.
 
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:31 pm

Theres something nice about it, yet it dosent seem right, the logo needs to be next to the title.

Here logo moved up so its wing joint in on the grey line and red stripe added under title


http://s17.postimg.org/4czzy52cv/cathay2a.png

[Edited 2015-11-05 16:19:56]
 
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Fri Nov 06, 2015 12:15 am

Quoting intotheair (Reply 164):
Overall, this is a really smart evolution that keeps what was best about the old look and fine tuning it. They didn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. This could have been much, much worse.

You're right. It could be worse. Much much worse.

A simple red outline of the brushstroke on the tail and on the fuselage would have done wonders

Quoting CX Flyboy (Reply 178):
Red no longer features as part of the corporate colour scheme and does not appear anywhere. Gold however is,

A shame--I thought the green and red complemented each other very nicely.
 
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:39 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 226):
Here logo moved up so its wing joint in on the grey line and red stripe added under title

A more muted tone of red carried through to the nose and somehow replicated on the tail and we might have asomething. At least a starter.

Quoting Polot (Reply 225):
Making the A the same size as the others can, based on the shape, make it appear visually smaller than the others and thus a little strange.

Ok, but all I see now is a sticky-out 'A', which is just as bad, no?
 
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:47 am

Classy and clean update in my opinion. I especially love the dark shade on the tail. I'm personally glad the red is gone, to me it didn't fit with the rest of the old livery.
 
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:21 am

I think it'll grow on me.

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5710/22713468261_21f6b8d4f1_o.jpgCathay Pacific 777-300ER B-KPM by Martin Tack, on Flickr

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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:54 am

Quoting Miami (Reply 230):
I think it'll grow on me.

I love it now! I do miss the red and I think they could have incorporated some of it into the new livery, but I think it's a great, modern take on the previous livery.

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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:05 am

The shade of green under the cockpit around the nose of current CX plane is something I am going to miss based on this re-branding.... I don't see any beauty with that shade of grey across the fuselarge. The tail looks OK.
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:18 pm

It's still not growing on me. It just seems unfinished.

Minimalist is one thing but this seems to be missing something in its execution.
 
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:29 pm

Looks like B-KPD is the next B777-300ER to be painted in the new color scheme, it is in Xiamen since Sunday.
 
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:45 am

B-KPD was painted not too long ago.
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:23 pm

CX A350 has rolled out of the paint shop but the weather in the area is poor.
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:34 pm

A350 roll out!



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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:46 pm

I can see why they ditched the green band on the nose now. Would have looked totally awkward on the A350 nose.
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Sun Nov 22, 2015 7:17 am

Have they used the same size font on both the A350 & 777?

It looks much larger on the A350 and obviously small on the 777.
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:30 pm

Now that the A350 has been painted, hopefully we will see clearer photos soon. Looks good so far.

I believe the next two planes to be re-painted are a passenger A330-300 and more interestingly a 747-400F.

It will be interesting to see how the livery is adapted to the 747 cargo fleet as the new livery has "CATHAY PACIFIC" above the greyish cheat-line, which, if keeping the location of the cheat-line in line with the current livery, would mean the titles would either have to remain in place within the cheat-line or be up in the hump of the 747. Probably what will happen is a smaller cheat-line enabling the lettering to remain in its location but still be above the cheat-line.
 
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Sun Nov 22, 2015 5:36 pm

I dont get why the brushwing logo is located where it is, it should be up there next to title or moved slightly up so that the top of teh grey band runs through the middle of the V part that forms the wing/body joint.
 
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:47 am

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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Mon Nov 23, 2015 3:00 am

I like that night pic. The livery looks very nice there.
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:28 pm

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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Sat Nov 28, 2015 1:19 am

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 244):

Looks sharp!
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:25 pm

Seeing this scheme I think PIA should have stuck with their bland look that came out in 2004, be part of the growing club of such branding. Layout of logo, title looks very CX http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/middle/5/3/6/0500635.jpg
 
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:47 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 246):

It looks nothing like the PIA scheme, and has much more colour on the tail and along the fuselage with the cheat line.
 
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:33 pm

Quoting AA100 (Reply 247):

It looks like a total rip off of the PIA scheme how can you not see it?

The logo behind the cockpit, the placement of the lettering and the logo on the tail plus the colour.

As you correctly pointed out CX basically left the old blue cheat line (perhaps the had lots left over) and thought if we reverse the colours on the tail no one will notice!
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RE: New Cathay Pacific Livery Update?

Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:38 am

Quoting CCA (Reply 248):
Quoting CCA (Reply 248):

Hmm but the PIA scheme that was shown in the picture was practically all white, with a curved line coming from the top of the fuselage in the middle. Yes they might have the same colour pallet but that seems about it.

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