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RE: Irish 18/15: It Just Keeps Getting Better!

Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:44 pm

Quoting EIRules (Reply 142):

EI have said next summer will see double digit growth in transatlantic capacity on this year so that has to mean new aircraft not just moving capacity

Looks like four new aircraft for next year!

A presentation slide at today's announcement indicated that three A330s would arrive and one 757 bringing the transatlantic fleet to 14 by the end of next summer.

We know of two A330s arriving in late summer directly from Airbus but the third must be coming earlier in the year in time for LAX to launch, maybe from Iberia? The 757 will obviously be sourced by Air Contractors in time for the BDL launch.

Willie Walsh also said there are "firm plans" to put wifi on the short haul fleets of the IAG airlines, EI included.

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Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:02 pm

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 150):
A presentation slide at today's announcement indicated that three A330s would arrive and one 757 bringing the transatlantic fleet to 14 by the end of next summer.

There are currently 8 A330s and 3 757s in fleet. The 2 new A330-300s and additional 757 will bring the total to 14 aircraft. There doesn't seem to be a third A330 arriving next year.

Perhaps the addition of EWR and choosing to use the UA terminal at LAX may indicate that co-operation with AA won't be as close as some (including myself) have expected? I'm quite surprised by this. Nevertheless, considering that the EI transatlantic fleet this time two years ago was only 7 aircraft but will soon reach double that figure at 14, I'm delighted with the progress EI has made.
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In other news, the inaugural Irish Aviation Students Association Aviation Symposium took place today. Judging from the photos shared by the organisation's Facebook page, the event was well-ended by third-level students keen on embarking careers in the Irish aviation sector. A number of discussion panels were held, focusing on areas such as aircraft maintenance, pilot training and aviation finance.

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Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:08 pm

Quoting EI121 (Reply 140):
Considering Willie Walsh said during the IAG takeover negotiations that EI would add 4 long haul routes by 2020, 3 of which were added today, I say we will see a less dramatic announcements in years to come. Lets wait and see.

I thought it was more along the lines of "4 routes on top of what EI had planned" The phrase "doubling their planned growth" was also used.

Quoting classiclover (Reply 143):
Alternatively there was some kind of lead time on the other seats which may have affected the service start.

This issue was apparent at the time. The B757 was a calculated risk and EI invested enough in changing the cabin layout as it was.

Quoting JAmie2k9 (Reply 147):
We all talk about American/EI/United and JetBlue code share and changes .......

JFK - JetBlue - Move to AA you drop JetBlue

Personally I never expected the B6 link to be chopped after the IAG purchase.

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 150):
A presentation slide at today's announcement indicated that three A330s would arrive and one 757 bringing the transatlantic fleet to 14 by the end of next summer.

Wouldnt mind a look at that presentation, any links avail?
Where did it take place btw?
 
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Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:14 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 151):
There are currently 8 A330s and 3 757s in fleet. The 2 new A330-300s and additional 757 will bring the total to 14 aircraft. There doesn't seem to be a third A330 arriving next year.

Ahh yes of course, you're right. I read the slide wrong, confused 7 routes for 7 aircraft.



So it is, two A330s and one 757 for next year.

EDIT:

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 152):
Wouldnt mind a look at that presentation, any links avail?
Where did it take place btw?

Didn't get to see it all personally, was just sent a few pictures by someone and also saw some via the usual social media!

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[Edited 2015-10-21 13:15:36]
 
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Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:56 pm

If I was BDL, I had $5 million to offer for a European service and the airline decided to start it in September, I'd be less than impressed, something about this announcement isn't quite right
 
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Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:01 pm

Quote:
Other potential destinations had been mooted ahead of the launch, including Miami and Philadelphia. Kavanagh would not be drawn on specifics, however, saying the airline was looking at "a number of new routes" for 2017.
http://www.independent.ie/life/trave...nnecticut-and-newark-34128106.html

Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 154):
omething about this announcement isn't quite right

Yeah.. No MIA..   
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Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:12 pm

So 2 new A330's arriving in September. 1 new 757.

LAX starting in May, assuming 757 also arrives in April/May.

757 takes over an existing A330 route. A330 flies to LAX.

New A330's arrive in September, BDL starts along with EWR.

Makes sense in terms of aircraft utilisation. Poor time to start routes, however, and will be difficult to judge performance based on a September start.
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Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:24 pm

I'm quite surprised by EWR, and if one may be so blunt, I can't see it lasting very long because of the current UA service being a longstanding thing. I reckon that BDL will last mid-term because of the incentives, but after these temporary measures stop it is an unknown quantity. LAX will last (unless there's another financial crash), and given the frequencies both EI and ET are offering, I think there's plenty enough room for the two.

I think I'd be right in saying that we were all hoping for somewhere more adventurous like DFW or MIA, but expansion is expansion (and one can't argue with that). But I'm still somewhat disappointed that no airlines seems to be showing an interest in providing a more usable service between Ireland and Canada outside of Toronto or St. John's. Can anyone humour me with some speculation?  
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RE: Irish 18/15: It Just Keeps Getting Better!

Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:31 pm

Quoting A60Stock (Reply 157):
But I'm still somewhat disappointed that no airlines seems to be showing an interest in providing a more usable service between Ireland and Canada outside of Toronto or St. John's. Can anyone humour me with some speculation?  

Agreed - Montreal and Vancouver are ripe for the picking. Vancouver was done before, and Montreal presently has a token service. But that said, with up to 5 daily flights between DUB and YYZ in the peak, it can't be long until someone tries a new city.
 
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RE: Irish 18/15: It Just Keeps Getting Better!

Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:50 pm

Quoting SURFER (Reply 47):
Plan is 2 based in SNN and 2 in DUB.

So as things stand, SNN-BOS will be operated by a 757 next summer as normal. This further throws the AG102/AG103 rotation into question.

Quoting 321neo (Reply 151):
In other news, the inaugural Irish Aviation Students Association Aviation Symposium took place today.

I was there; very well organised with a nice mix of speakers. The Irish Aviation Authority was so impressed that they have already committed to sponsoring the 2016 symposium.

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 152):
Wouldnt mind a look at that presentation, any links avail?
Where did it take place btw?

Today's EI announcement took place at the Bord Gáis Energy Theatre.

I could see UA removing one of the two daily summer DUB-EWR rotations following the EI announcement.

[Edited 2015-10-21 14:55:34]
 
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Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:05 pm

Aer Lingus 2 new A330-302s MSN1742 & MSN1744 are showing due for delivery June/July 2016.
The B757-200 they are looking at is reportedly a Ethiopian machine MSN30319.
 
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Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:28 pm

Quoting psimpson (Reply 160):
Aer Lingus 2 new A330-302s MSN1742 & MSN1744 are showing due for delivery June/July 2016

More like Aug/Sep....9 frames a month,
 
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Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:52 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 159):

I think UA are here to stay personally !
 
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Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:57 pm

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 149):

There is that element however commercially limiting options is not always good, be honest here AA will benefit from US transit no EI.

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 152):
Personally I never expected the B6 link to be chopped after the IAG purchase.

In theory no however given the scale of AA operation in JFK it's hard to see the point of keeping both.

Quoting Cipango (Reply 156):

EI say a 17% increase in capacity which is in the region of 200.000 seats and not getting additional aircraft until September will not meet this.

I have a hunch that the B752 will arrive on time before next summer and will run the early morning JFK services until end of September.....

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 159):
So as things stand, SNN-BOS will be operated by a 757 next summer as normal. This further throws the AG102/AG103 rotation into question.

Have not seen the Heartford number just schedule, could it be that?

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 149):

Fair point however UA unlikely approached EI to say you an use T7 at LAX and on the other side why would EI want to use T7 specifically and approach UA.

I should stress T7 is subject to change at LAX.
 
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Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:59 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 159):
I could see UA removing one of the two daily summer DUB-EWR rotations following the EI announcement.

It would be summer 2017 before UA would possibly see a hit commercially however I can't see them going anywhere they do really really well out of DUB and suspect if they had enough larger aircraft DUB would see them.

They had an incredible summer this year, all routes did really well despite EI moving onto IAD and UA moving into a busy ORD route.

[Edited 2015-10-21 16:01:04]
 
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Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:24 pm

Quoting JAmie2k9 (Reply 164):
Fair point however UA unlikely approached EI to say you an use T7 at LAX and on the other side why would EI want to use T7 specifically and approach UA.

I should stress T7 is subject to change at LAX.

They were also to use the UA terminal at SFO, this was listed in the GDS, and then it changed to the international terminal.
 
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Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:08 am

With EI's expansion, and SK's comment that in order to build a hub they need a bigger variety of destinations, what do we think the future of the EI fleet would be.

I think it's looking more and more likley that the A350 is too much plane for them. The strategy seems to be instead of adding capacity to existing gateways, to push it to secondary destinations, for which they will need smaller aircraft. Frequency and variety of destinations is what a hub needs

I think a combination of the 321NEO/LR (this aircraft seems tailor made for them) and the 330-NEO (west coast of businer east coast) would be ideal for EI.

Thoughts?
 
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Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:30 am

Quoting al2637 (Reply 167):

A350 is not to much and you will see capacity added rather than new routes in 2017. The 350 will only have around 30 more seats and EI operate at up to 96% capacoty on T/A routes. Many also forget the cost saving per seat which is aroind 20% and it will be needed coming up against DY and others in the coming years.
 
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Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:42 am

And on a lighter note, look at what was spotted on FR24!

Back To The Future's Delorean On FR24 (by coal Oct 21 2015 in Civil Aviation)

For those who don't understand the relevance to this thread, the original DeLoreans were built in Belfast
 
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Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:44 am

But how many routes can sustain daily 350 service. Isn't it better if trying to build a hub to offer more frequency and breadth of destinations.

For instance, if SFO is looking like it needs a capacity increase, they'd be better off looking at adding SJC, similar to what they did yesterday, adding EWR (instead of JFK), and undoubtedly BDL will take some of their existing BOS (and NYC) traffic.

I can see the same eventually happening with MIA taking traffic from MCO, and adding DFW with AA onward connections will take traffic currently flowing over the other gateways etc. etc.
 
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Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:02 am

Quoting al2637 (Reply 170):
JFK/BOS/ORD can suistain at least 2 daily 350 ops while SFO could also suistain a daily service, LAX as well.

There is an element of increasing service and opening services but I so no reason that a meridian term goal of EI will be 3 daily widebody to JFK/BOS.

As for the new routes taking form BOS/JFK, it will however demand is so high to JFK/BOS any passengers moved away will be filled straight away with more.

[Edited 2015-10-22 03:07:13]
 
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Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:18 am

Quoting al2637 (Reply 167):
I think it's looking more and more likley that the A350 is too much plane for them. The strategy seems to be instead of adding capacity to existing gateways, to push it to secondary destinations, for which they will need smaller aircraft. Frequency and variety of destinations is what a hub needs
Quoting al2637 (Reply 170):
For instance, if SFO is looking like it needs a capacity increase, they'd be better off looking at adding SJC, similar to what they did yesterday, adding EWR (instead of JFK), and undoubtedly BDL will take some of their existing BOS (and NYC) traffic.

I did think that the A330NEO would be a better aircraft for EI, if they are going to continue to focus on the North America market, but EI management have looked closely at the A350, A350R and the A330NEO. I suspect that the A321LR was also looked at in great detail. EI management might not have been the most dynamic, or responsive bunch, but under CM they made some very shrewd decisions and I don't think many could criticise the operational performance and fleet choices EI have made to date. We know EI already see the A332 as too small. I would have guessed the 339 was almost made for EI, but they obviously prefer the operational flexibility the A359/A359R offers. They may feel that even the newest A333Es are too marginal for the west coast routes. The selection of the A359 suggests that EI do see a some potential in Asia, even against EK and EY. Otherwise I don't think they would have bothered.
I think its fair to assume that the 757s will eventually be replaced by A321LRs, at some point. I certainly wouldn't bet against the speculation up-thread that the 4th 757 will do the daylight JFK until the launch of BDL.
 
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Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:20 am

possibly even the a35K down the line for growth to the east coast...
 
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Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:24 am

Quoting JAmie2k9 (Reply 168):
350 is not to much and you will see capacity added rather than new routes in 2017. The 350 will only have around 30 more seats and EI operate at up to 96% capacoty on T/A routes. Many also forget the cost saving per seat which is aroind 20% and it will be needed coming up against DY and others in the coming years.

I agree. things will change a lot over the next few years and there is a chance that EI will introduce a premium Y. I think one of the key challenges for EI will be capacity at T2 and they will want the DAA to move ahead with this.

I could also see EI take up some of its A350 options as -1000s, for use on peak routes.
 
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Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:28 am

Quoting opticalilyushin (Reply 169):
And on a lighter note, look at what was spotted on FR24!

LOL! Very good! Social media was filled with references to it yesterday! I always have to grin when I see a DeLorean - its rare to be able to say "yeah, that was built here!"
 
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Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:43 am

Quoting al2637 (Reply 170):
But how many routes can sustain daily 350 service.

Currently I would say ORD and JFK sustain a larger aircraft (and its not that much larger) JFK may see a drop in traffic due to EWR being launched.
I would say that SFO needs an A333 or even an A350, howver lets wait and see how the LAX route affects its loads.

Quoting al2637 (Reply 170):
I can see the same eventually happening with MIA taking traffic from MCO,

MCO flights are mostly point to point, very little onward to MIA.

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 172):
I did think that the A330NEO would be a better aircraft for EI, if they are going to continue to focus on the North America market, but EI management have looked closely at the A350, A350R and the A330NEO.

They already looked at the A330neo and decided the greater fuel savings of the A359 was a better choice,even with the higher acquisition costs. We know that Airbus would happily have switched EI to the NEO to free up A350 slots for others..
 
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Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:53 am

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 176):
MCO flights are mostly point to point, very little onward to MIA.

Yea, but I was thinking maybe the folks that would do a dual center holiday, fly to MCO, drive to MIA, and fly back etc.

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 176):
They already looked at the A330neo and decided the greater fuel savings of the A359 was a better choice,even with the higher acquisition costs. We know that Airbus would happily have switched EI to the NEO to free up A350 slots for others..

Agreed, I'm just wondering out loud if EI have had a change of strategy, in that rather than just adding capacity to existing cities, the plan is to add the capacity to other cities within a region, which I think is a very shrewd decision if trying to build a hub.

Interesting times for EI!

In other news, not sure anyone picked up on this yet.. confirmation from EI that they are talking to FR about feeding long haul.
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/t...on-north-american-routes-1.2400280
 
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Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:14 pm

Quoting EI121 (Reply 140):
Stephen Kavanagh of EI: "Building a hub is critically dependent on the number of routes. We will follow quickly the 2016 initiative with more expansion in 2017. It may be that we will add new routes, as we have today, but I would certainly see an opportunity to grow existing gateways and build frequencies. We will build a scale of the operation but I would see that as a balance between new and existing."

Well is is too early to start the 2017 speculation games...?

I agree that MIA seems like a logical add, and beyond that, I - selfishly - would love to see DFW get another link to Europe.

Quoting JAmie2k9 (Reply 147):
It could be damaging to EI in a big way, routes such as IAD I think feed is impotent. One would expect the T7 at LAX is a clear indication of UA/EI together as I can't see UA allowing them in otherwise.

Willie Walsh said before he wouldn't change things which damaged EI so perhaps this is part of it? Now OW may not be happy but I'm sure Willie can talk them round if it is the case of UA staying.

We'll see. Personally, if IAG is serious about integrating Aer Lingus not only into oneworld but, more importantly, into the existing AA/IAG transatlantic ATI/JV, I cannot conceive of a way that Aer Lingus - under those circumstances - could continue extensive codesharing within the domestic U.S. with one of AA's primary rivals. The United codeshare may persist for another year or two, but if/when Aer Lingus is integrated into the oneworld ATI/JV, I still suspect that domestic codesharing will largely switch to AA - possibly concurrent with further growth into AA hubs (like MIA and DFW). As a result, there would be some routes that benefit or suffer somewhat in terms of feed and online connectivity from the change, but overall there's really virtually no major U.S. market of consequence that United can get connecting Aer Lingus passengers to that AA can't.
 
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Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:17 pm

I see on another thread that Madrid-Barajas Airport reportedly has rejected the proposed US preclearance facility there because Willie Walsh wants it exclusively for the EI EU > US transfer hub through Ireland.
 
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Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 179):

I'm not sure I'd believe that as the reason, seems a little self defeating
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Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:01 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 179):
I see on another thread that Madrid-Barajas Airport reportedly has rejected the proposed US preclearance facility there because Willie Walsh wants it exclusively for the EI EU > US transfer hub through Ireland.

Seems to be hearsay from the Spanish press - MAD has logistical reasons, such as US flights using every terminal there, to deal with. Until they are in a position to replace T1, 2, and 3 with a single terminal, there really isn't much point to doing it. It will only add severe logistical headaches. Besides, MAD doesn't have geography on it's side for US connections - DUB does. MAD is suited to South American connections - which it does more extensively than any other IAG carrier.
 
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Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 179):

That is simply not true.
 
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Thu Oct 22, 2015 8:09 pm

Unions at IB would love it was true, give them something to moan about.

While on unions, anyone know what happened with EI crew remember in the last year they were going to strike if they didnt get the 5/3 roster or whatever it was. Did EI agree or just give them something small to keep them happy?
 
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Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:17 pm

Quoting JAmie2k9 (Reply 183):
While on unions, anyone know what happened with EI crew remember in the last year they were going to strike if they didnt get the 5/3 roster or whatever it was. Did EI agree or just give them something small to keep them happy?

I was thinking about that yesterday with the new route announcements. I know the crew members got the three days off after operating the SFO flight but not sure if they got it for anything else.

Also what happened to the unions protesting the IAG deal. Seems once the government agreed to sell the unions went quiet.
 
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Thu Oct 22, 2015 9:33 pm

Quoting EI121 (Reply 184):

Yeah it was some time after the T/A hours, they then wanted full 5/3 lfor all crew as they say all cariers operate this. At the time I think EI said it would cost up to 20 million to facilate it but all went quiet. Good point about IAG thing as well.
 
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Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:10 pm

Quoting commavia (Reply 178):
We'll see. Personally, if IAG is serious about integrating Aer Lingus not only into oneworld but, more importantly, into the existing AA/IAG transatlantic ATI/JV, I cannot conceive of a way that Aer Lingus - under those circumstances - could continue extensive codesharing within the domestic U.S. with one of AA's primary rivals. The United codeshare may persist for another year or two, but if/when Aer Lingus is integrated into the oneworld ATI/JV, I still suspect that domestic codesharing will largely switch to AA - possibly concurrent with further growth into AA hubs (like MIA and DFW)

I would have similar thoughts; it's difficult to see how the current UA partnership could continue post entry into the OW JV. It's akin to dating the arch-enemy of your partner in marriage whilst hoping that everyone remains happy with arrangement.

MIA will make far more sense when the AA relationship is (re)established as it will open up the Latin American market to EI flyers.

Overall, I feel that BDL has to be the most interesting of the routes announced; and not because it has long featured on my "must see destinations" list, but because of the potential impact it could have on EI's long-haul fleet and network strategy for many years to come. DUB-BDL would seem an ideal candidate for an A321neoLR if it can provide a positive contribution using the B757 (ex subsidies, of course).
 
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:00 am

Just seen this on another thread on this forum and taught it worth a mention, WS say they will be sending the 767 to DUB

https://twitter.com/WestJet/status/656614478981799937
 
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Fri Oct 23, 2015 7:29 am

Quoting RRTrent (Reply 187):
Just seen this on another thread on this forum and taught it worth a mention, WS say they will be sending the 767 to DUB

Good news for Dublin, though possibly bad news for EI and AC Rouge; presunbly WJ will maintain the route to Halifax (continue that to YUL?) and make YYZ nonstop.

In other news, this morning's ET 500 to IAD declared an emergency, squawking 7700 and returned to DUB.
 
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RE: Irish 18/15: It Just Keeps Getting Better!

Fri Oct 23, 2015 8:22 am

Quoting RRTrent (Reply 187):

Not a surprise really the success of the operation at DUB saw impressive figures and if anywhere was a candidate for it DUB is.

Quoting kaitak (Reply 188):

AC Rouge is trying to tap into the DUB-YYZ-Caribbean traffic. They recently did a push with a TO to Cuba with special fares for instance. They realise they need that kind of traffic.
 
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RE: Irish 18/15: It Just Keeps Getting Better!

Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:00 am

Quoting JAmie2k9 (Reply 183):
anyone know what happened with EI crew remember in the last year they were going to strike if they didnt get the 5/3 roster or whatever it was. Did EI agree or just give them something small to keep them happy?

There was a compromise deal agreed upon. Which gave more roster stability to crew but did not require the company to implement 5/3. While 5/3 is very efficient, EI crew are in an unusual position of operating both long and short haul while adhering to minimum FTL's. This made actual operation of 5/3 more difficult that just changing a roster. (ie FR crew operate to FTL's but do not have T/A flights)

Quoting JAmie2k9 (Reply 185):
At the time I think EI said it would cost up to 20 million to facilate it but all went quiet.

Thats brillant! EUR20M = approx 800 crew at 25K p.a.!!!
Considering that EI currently have 1100-1200 cabin crew who operate an average of 850+ hours per year.

In fact it would have required a readjustment of scheduling and would have required EI to hire some more crew (mybe as many as 80) as 5/3 pattern needs full numbers to work. However 5/3 has the advantage of reducing sick leave and roster dissatisfaction among crew. Which negates the demand for standbys.
The EI argument was that it would mean "more days off for cabin crew", however the plan would mean longer working days so yearly productivity would have remained the same. And airline work towards monthly/yearly hours, not days on/off.

Quoting EI121 (Reply 184):
Also what happened to the unions protesting the IAG deal. Seems once the government agreed to sell the unions went quiet.

Well once the Govt agreed to sell there was nothing any opponents of the deal could do, any further protests would have been a waste of effort.
 
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RE: Irish 18/15: It Just Keeps Getting Better!

Fri Oct 23, 2015 10:07 am

Quoting kaitak (Reply 188):
In other news, this morning's ET 500 to IAD declared an emergency, squawking 7700 and returned to DUB.

Another GENx shutdown. I'd be getting very worried about my ETOPS certification if was Boeing right now.
 
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RE: Irish 18/15: It Just Keeps Getting Better!

Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:13 am

Quoting EIDL (Reply 191):
Another GENx shutdown. I'd be getting very worried about my ETOPS certification if was Boeing right now.

With all the issues experienced with the 787 in the past, the cynic in me says that if it was Airbus and not Boeing, the FAA would have grounded it back when it was having battery problems, but that's a whole other discussion   
 
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RE: Irish 18/15: It Just Keeps Getting Better!

Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:34 am

Hi guys

Can anyone point me in the direction where i can find a map/diagram of the oceanic tracks/nav points etc etc for Ireland

Cheers in advance!

SS2
 
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RE: Irish 18/15: It Just Keeps Getting Better!

Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:00 pm

Googling "Irish airspace waypoints" might help and throws up the following amongst other links.

http://www.iaa.ie/safe_reg/iaip/Publ...20Files/2009/EI_AIC_2009_11_en.pdf
 
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RE: Irish 18/15: It Just Keeps Getting Better!

Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:27 pm

ET to use Dublin as a fuel stop for its new flight to New York beginning in June 2016.

The flight to EWR is set to begin in June and it will be used by one of their new A350's!

Ethiopian To NY In June 2016 (by dkny Oct 23 2015 in Civil Aviation)
Let's fly! Unless it's on a CRJ 200, then I'll stay down here.
 
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RE: Irish 18/15: It Just Keeps Getting Better!

Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:39 pm

IAD goes daily B752 to free up A332 for LAX, MCO drops back from 4 to 3 weekly, that gives 5 slots for LAX and the 2 rest spaces for the A330 fleet remain. No other cuts outside early morning JFK and SNN-BOS capacity.

[Edited 2015-10-23 08:46:11]
 
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RE: Irish 18/15: It Just Keeps Getting Better!

Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:51 pm

Will the DUB 757 ops still be crewed by SNN-based cabin staff?

BA193 (LHR-DFW) has taken a medical detour to SNN. The aircraft is a 77W.
http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/1023/736...ethiopian-airlines-dublin-airport/
 
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RE: Irish 18/15: It Just Keeps Getting Better!

Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:54 pm

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 197):

Given the second B752 will remain at SNN I don't see why, DUB will have two 752 based and SNN will have two based. I wouldn't know much about how they crew operators but would think SNN will not be crewing DUB this year. SNN don't crew the YYZ 752 do they?
 
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RE: Irish 18/15: It Just Keeps Getting Better!

Fri Oct 23, 2015 4:31 pm

Quoting opticalilyushin (Reply 32):

I flew Brussels Airlines for the first time the other night BRU-LHR. Was quite impressed with the product. Comfortable seats and friendly crew with a decent BOB. Looking forward to trying out the BHD-BRU service.

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