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Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:08 pm

The last USAirways flight has departed PHL for CLT. The flight will make the rounds to the former US hubs. It will continue to PHX and SFO and finally arrive PHL tomorrow morning as the last USAirways flight. All flights after 12:01am will be operated as American Airlines.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAL1939
 
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:12 pm

I hope it's in old paint...
 
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:14 pm

Is it possible that ATC will refer to them as "US Air" on the last leg kind of like how AirTran's final flight was called "Critter"?
 
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:19 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 1):
I hope it's in old paint...

It's an A321 operated by N152UW in US Airways livery.
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:34 pm

Looking on Jetnet, looks like there was over 450 employee's listed for the final flight. Now, I just see 3...
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:47 pm

Last I heard over 1000 employees listed for the SFO PHL leg, the system could npt get over 1000 listings and started back from scratch.
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:58 pm

Quoting chepos (Reply 5):

Last I heard over 1000 employees listed for the SFO PHL leg, the system could npt get over 1000 listings and started back from scratch.

Wonder if people were just trying to get standby/boarding passes for the last flight as a keepsake.
 
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:01 pm

Quoting 777ord (Reply 4):

Looking on Jetnet, looks like there was over 450 employee's listed for the final flight
Quoting chepos (Reply 5):

Last I heard over 1000 employees listed for the SFO PHL leg

Does that mean that 1450 employees are trying to get on the flight, or are somehow working the flight? Curious. Can you explain?
 
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:05 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 7):
Does that mean that 1450 employees are trying to get on the flight, or are somehow working the flight? Curious. Can you explain?


A friend of mine who works for PSA posted what looked like a passed-on "chain letter"-type push on Facebook yesterday for as many PMUS employees as possible to list as non-revs on the SFO-PHL segment as one last sign of US Airways pride.

It sounds more symbolic than anything.

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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:18 pm

Quoting chepos (Reply 5):
Last I heard over 1000 employees listed for the SFO PHL leg, the system could npt get over 1000 listings and started back from scratch.

  

Quoting stburke (Reply 6):
Wonder if people were just trying to get standby/boarding passes for the last flight as a keepsake.

  

Quoting DeltaRules (Reply 8):
It sounds more symbolic than anything.

Exactly.
 
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 4:20 pm

Most people are trying to get a boarding pass as a souvenir of the last flight. The flight is already full with revenue pax so I am sure everyone listed knows the chances of making the flight are slim to none.There is even a ZED pax on the list which is kind of funny.
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:00 pm

Oh, I had no idea the final flight for US (i.e 1939) will be operated by the Airbus A321-200. Pretty neat.
As by post time, this is the current situation as per screenshot:



Source: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE1939
AA, AC, DL, JM, KY, US
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:06 pm

On the upside the foreign atc and pilots will not get confused at the odd "Cactus" callsign anymore. The end of an era I used to fly as self loading freight on America West and PSA many years ago.
 
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:50 pm

Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 12):
On the upside the foreign atc and pilots will not get confused at the odd "Cactus" callsign anymore.

They haven't used the old Cactus callsign for a good couple of months now. IIRC the changeover to the American callsign was back in April.
 
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:56 pm

Well now that it's finally over, when are these pmUS planes going to get premium economy seats at the front
of coach for elite passengers?
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:59 pm

Quoting texdravid (Reply 14):
Well now that it's finally over, when are these pmUS planes going to get premium economy seats at the front
of coach for elite passengers?

The same time that substandard seats are put in the rest of coach.

But I think this thread may be better served as a tribute thread.
 
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:46 pm

The flight's now en route to PHX. Scheduled arrival at 3:46pm MST.
 
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:56 pm

Corporate recognized the fact there were so many NRSA's listed for the boarding pass... They created a fake one for everyone to have as a keep sake! NICE TOUCH!  
 
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:21 pm

It's a shame that US Airways bailed on PIT, yet again. Another slap in their face. Sad.
 
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:26 pm

As the final flight of US Air/Airways, it would've seemed appropriate to have a leg to PIT, IMHO.. given they're paying homage to SFO/PSA; although I believe PIT is a much bigger part of US's history than SFO or PSA.

Anyway, good luck to the US Airways family as they make this transition  
 
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:30 pm

The best farewell routing would have been a PIT-PHL-CLT-PHX-SAN-PHL routing. That would have been the best farewell tour to cover all of the headquarters and/or main hubs of the legacy airlines that made up the last version of US Airways.
 
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:52 am

Looking up the flight number, I'm seeing a PHL-SEA flight for tomorrow morning. I thought that 1939 ends at PHL?

This information is from flight aware.

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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:45 am

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 21):
Looking up the flight number, I'm seeing a PHL-SEA flight for tomorrow morning. I thought that 1939 ends at PHL?

This information is from flight aware.

Marc

Are you certain that what you're seeing is US1939 and not AA1939? As of 17OCT, US will cease to exist in all reservation systems.

I happened to look at the PHL-TLV flight. It was strange to see PHL-TLV as US but the return TLV-PHL leg as AA.

Will AA be putting "American" stickers over the US Airways name overnight tonight on the remaining US-painted planes? In the past, it seems that mergers and rebranding happened much faster. When NW bought RC, the Northwest name went on the planes overnight. When AA bought OC, the AirCal name disappeared overnight. Why do these things drag on for years now? Just a year or two ago, I saw a Midwest Airlines painted plane still flying for Republic. Midwest has been gone for years.
 
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:26 am

SO LONG USAIR/USAIRWAYS thanks for the memories.... I flew them many times...
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:26 am

Why didn't they deploy an A330 on this final itinerary?
 
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:24 am

I wish I had had enough cash on hand for even one segment of the flight. I hope someone from the site is on it and takes pictures. I'll really miss US.

Quoting Capt.Fantastic (Reply 19):
As the final flight of US Air/Airways, it would've seemed appropriate to have a leg to PIT,

I think that was how it should have originated: a flight from Pittsburgh and ending in Philadelphia when all was said and done. Not only that but considering that HP had a hub at LAS, a stop there would have also been symbolic.

Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Reply 24):
Why didn't they deploy an A330 on this final itinerary?

Probably because the amount of A330s is limited compared to A321s which I would assume some are kept in reserve for last minute swaps. Don't think the airline is willing to part with one of its handful of widebodies when it can serve international routes and bring in more revenue that the symbolic flight. Personally, I would have chosen a 757 instead.
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:52 am

Quoting B727skyguy (Reply 22):
Are you certain that what you're seeing is US1939 and not AA1939? As of 17OCT, US will cease to exist in all reservation systems.
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE1939

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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:43 am

Well, US is gone.....but AA essentially has left, too, IMHO. The gradual downhill slide to mediocrity continues, as the "US management team" slowly usurps the corporate and operational positions from the AA group. Before long, the company will also have an increasing preponderance of contract personnel (G2 types) in all but the hubs and large mkts, same as UA & DL (who also have regressed into also-rans). Sad, but indicative of the consolidation taking place in virtually all business endeavors in the developed world.
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:03 am

Quoting 777ord (Reply 17):

Corporate recognized the fact there were so many NRSA's listed for the boarding pass... They created a fake one for everyone to have as a keep sake! NICE TOUCH!

Nice little gesture. Costs them almost nothing and is good for morale.

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 25):
I'll really miss US.

I agree. For all the complaining people did about them, they always took good care of me when I flew with them, even back when they were America West.

To me, this is all very interesting. Little podunk America West Airlines, a LCC out of Tempe, managed to become US Airways and now is American Airlines, the biggest airline in the world. Say what you will about Mr. Parker but that's quite an accomplishment and he was the architect of a lot of it.
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:04 am

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 21):
Looking up the flight number, I'm seeing a PHL-SEA flight for tomorrow morning. I thought that 1939 ends at PHL?

That's just a glitch in FA. Notice it's scheduled for the 18th.

Quoting B727skyguy (Reply 22):
I happened to look at the PHL-TLV flight. It was strange to see PHL-TLV as US but the return TLV-PHL leg as AA.

Also, the current TLV-PHL that is in the air is operating as 401, instead of the typical 797.

Quoting B727skyguy (Reply 22):
Will AA be putting "American" stickers over the US Airways name overnight tonight on the remaining US-painted planes?

The big cutover that is happening tonight is all about branding and reservations/dispatch systems. LUS and LAA have been on one FAA certificate since April 8, 2015, which means all aircraft that aren't repainted have small stickers on them that say "Operated by American Airlines". That's all that's required; the aircraft can keep their US paint (and large titles) until it's their turn for a full repaint. But that'll still take months to complete. But all the branding in the airports are supposed to be changed by now, and all flights will now be known on board as "American Airlines".

Quoting B727skyguy (Reply 22):
Why do these things drag on for years now?

Because every merger is bigger than the last. The bigger the merger, the longer it takes.
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Sat Oct 17, 2015 5:08 am

The callsign is slightly different. Something like "All-American 1939".
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:11 am

Is anyone able to get an ATC audio recording when it lands in PHL?
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:39 am

A friend of mine is on it. They are serving snacks and champagne, even to coach passengers.

Quoting N763NW (Reply 31):
Is anyone able to get an ATC audio recording when it lands in PHL?

Should be on Live ATC forever.
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:59 am

Quoting hufftheweevil (Reply 29):
all aircraft that aren't repainted have small stickers on them that say "Operated by American Airlines". That's all that's required; the aircraft can keep their US paint (and large titles) until it's their turn for a full repaint.

AFAIK, the new operating certificate says "American Airlines and/or US Airways, Inc.," so AA isn't using the little "Operated By" stickers.
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:29 pm

Quoting Capt.Fantastic (Reply 19):
As the final flight of US Air/Airways, it would've seemed appropriate to have a leg to PIT, IMHO.. given they're paying homage to SFO/PSA; although I believe PIT is a much bigger part of US's history than SFO or PSA.
Quoting FLYjoe (Reply 20):
The best farewell routing would have been a PIT-PHL-CLT-PHX-SAN-PHL routing. That would have been the best farewell tour to cover all of the headquarters and/or main hubs of the legacy airlines that made up the last version of US Airways.
Quoting D L X (Reply 15):
Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 25):
I think that was how it should have originated: a flight from Pittsburgh and ending in Philadelphia when all was said and done. Not only that but considering that HP had a hub at LAS, a stop there would have also been symbolic.

I agree SAN would have been better than SFO but there is no LUS redeye before 10p PT / midnight DFW time for it to work. DCA was LLUS HQ at least since the beginning of the jet age and and would have been great too.

As far as LAS, you could also make the point BWI, DAY, IND, SYR, and to a lesser extent MKC and CLE but you have to draw the line somewhere.
 
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:03 pm

Quoting KGRB (Reply 33):
AFAIK, the new operating certificate says "American Airlines and/or US Airways, Inc.," so AA isn't using the little "Operated By" stickers.

I stand corrected. I never noticed that. Interesting that each of the last 3 mergers all went about this a different way:

DL/NW simply dropped the NW name.
UA/CO's certificate uses the DBA section to include both names.
AA/US's certificate puts both names in the main identifier of the certificate. I guess they'll just wait until all the aircraft are repainted to change it to AA only.
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:47 pm

Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 26):
Quoting B727skyguy (Reply 22):Are you certain that what you're seeing is US1939 and not AA1939? As of 17OCT, US will cease to exist in all reservation systems.
Quoting Cadet985 (Reply 26):
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE1939

Probably just a flightaware issue.

https://flightaware.com/live/airport/KMWH

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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:53 pm

Quoting hufftheweevil (Reply 29):
LUS and LAA have been on one FAA certificate since April 8, 2015, which means all aircraft that aren't repainted have small stickers on them that say "Operated by American Airlines".
Quoting KGRB (Reply 33):
AFAIK, the new operating certificate says "American Airlines and/or US Airways, Inc.," so AA isn't using the little "Operated By" stickers.

I just saw an LUS A321 close-up last Saturday. KGRB is right. There are no stickers or any indication of "Operated by American" on the planes.
 
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Sat Oct 17, 2015 6:42 pm

Quoting hufftheweevil (Reply 29):
That's all that's required; the aircraft can keep their US paint (and large titles) until it's their turn for a full repaint. But that'll still take months to complete

You mean after several months the entire fleet will be repainted? I thought they weren't even halfway finished and that it will still take a couple of years.

Quoting B727skyguy (Reply 37):
I just saw an LUS A321 close-up last Saturday. KGRB is right. There are no stickers or any indication of "Operated by American" on the planes.

There are no plans in the coming days or weeks to at least cover up the name US Airways and display American until remaining aircraft are fully repainted? Has any other airline merger in the US continued to fly planes with the old name for months or years remaining until the planes were fully repainted?
 
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:25 pm

Quoting afcjets (Reply 38):
You mean after several months the entire fleet will be repainted? I thought they weren't even halfway finished and that it will still take a couple of years.

Painting of the LUS fleet is scheduled to be complete by the end of next year.
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RE: Final USAirways Flight 1939 Has Departed

Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:04 pm

Quoting spyglass (Reply 27):
too, IMHO. The gradual downhill slide to mediocrity continues, as the "US management team" slowly usurps the corporate and operational positions from the AA group. Before long, the company will also have an increasing preponderance of contract personnel (G2 types) in all but the hubs and large mkts, same as UA & DL (who also have regressed into also-rans). Sad, but indicative of the consolidation taking place in virtually all business endeavors in the developed world.

Quite the opposite, in fact. AA's agents voted to keep the CWA union which represented US, and the new TA reached a few weeks ago will restore the AA jobs outsourced in 2012 and gives agents industry-leading pay.

Quoting afcjets (Reply 38):
Has any other airline merger in the US continued to fly planes with the old name for months or years remaining until the planes were fully repainted?

Not the name, but it's been 5 years since the UA/CO merger and there are still planes flying around in CO colors...   

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