|Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 128):|
Counter the 787?
Counter the 779X?
There are PLENTY of products in the Airbus lineup that are both competitive and compelling. The A350 is selling great, and the 777 replacement market is only going to get stronger. The A330neo is a low cost, low risk option to compete with the 787. Airbus even has a narrowbody that is starting to stretch it's legs and can theoretically go into some traditionally WB markets, taking some very low end WB sales.
Conversely, Boeing has a range-limited 78X, a quite-large-almost-niche 777X program, and ..... crickets. I think it would be silly to bring either the MAX9 or the 748i into the conversation for risk of getting laughed out of the forum.
Which lineup would I prefer to have:
To me, not a difficult choice. I'd currently choose Airbus. More capable narrowbody, low cost low end widebody, more modern high end widebody, and a viable VLA.
The problem I see with Airbus' lineup is that I see a huge consolidation of size within a similar size bracket.
I doubt the A330-800neo will have any sizable orders anytime soon. The A330-900neo should do well, but the A350-900 is right there. Any airlines wanting some additional capabilities would easily go for the A359, which has proven to be a financial success.
The A350-1000 is not selling as fast as I expected it to, and the 777X has nearly outsold it by a ratio of 2:1. It's lighter, burns less fuel, but as I said on another thread, the 777-8 trumps the A35K with range, and the -9, with size.
The A380 may be a viable VLA, but it's not selling. The 747-8 isn't either.
The fight is more ferocious on the narrowbody end. The A319neo has been outsold by the 737 MAX 7, but that hardly counts, seeing as the smallest of those families never sell anymore.
The A320neo and 737 MAX 8 are true competitors and each are very attractive to the airlines. The real star of the Airbus narrowbody line is the A321neo. The 737 MAX 9 falls short of it on every front.
The 787 is doing well, the best selling model being the -9. As time goes by, I believe we'll see the -8 fall out of favor and be replaced by an NLT, which I'll touch on in a second. And then we have the 787-10, which is claimed to be the most efficient widebody airliner on the market, which will surely give the A350-900 a run for the money. As the recent order by EVA shows, the 787-10 will certainly be popular in the years ahead.
Boeing's next fight is the NSA (and) NLT, which would effectively replace the 737, 757, 767-200 and, possibly, the 787-8. Two planes the size of the 737 and two larger models the size of the 757, developed side by side, is what I envision, and a lot of people are thinking Boeing could launch said aircraft as early as 2018/19.
While Airbus has the:
A319neo (which won't sell well)
A330-800neo (which probably will sell slow, if at all)
A380 (which has a questionable future as well)
Boeing has the:
737 MAX 7 (which won't sell well as well)
737 MAX 8
737 MAX 200
737 MAX 9
787-8 (which will probably fall out of favor as time progresses)
747-8i (which isn't selling)
But what happens if those aircraft that's don't sell well are removed and new aircraft are introduced?
) Airbus Supertwin (A360?) (OR
777-8 (perhaps replaced by a 777-9LR)
So the reality is, I'd choose both. Both companies have planes I would want to use.