1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

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timz
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1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:58 pm

Says 1967

http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/21830542980/sizes/k/

Does the drive-in theater mean it has to be the US? If so, how about Miami? What kind of aircraft, what time of day, and is it arriving or leaving?
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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:25 am

I am going to say that its departing based on the attitude and flap setting. While another notch of flaps or a longer viewing angle would say for certain, I am going with a fairly new 727 on this one.
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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:29 am

Having scrolled all the way to the right Im now going to double down on 727. That isnt a window frame but sure as heck looks the outline of a nacelle. The distance from the nacelle to the trailing edge of the wing is a match to the 727-100 as well. Also it appears to be mid morning and MIA is as good a guess as any. Was TWA flying to MIA in 67 though?

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[Edited 2015-10-16 17:32:12]
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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:32 am

Looks like an old DC-9 to me!
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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:42 am

diverted,

You may well be right. That isn't a 727 aileron. Possibly a DC-9-15. Maybe New York?
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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:42 am

Quoting diverted (Reply 3):
Looks like an old DC-9 to me!

Was going to say the same thing, looks very much like the DC-9-15 I fly.

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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:47 am

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 5):
Was going to say the same thing, looks very much like the DC-9-15 I fly.

100% a DC-9-10. I've changed those wing position lights a lot. Also, the engine nacelle is in the right side of the shot.

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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sat Oct 17, 2015 12:55 am

Based on the island chain, the curve of the beach in the foreground, and the tall structure on that beach, I'd say the plane took off to the northeast out of BOS and you're looking out over Broad Sound.
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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:12 am

Well with single piece flap, obviously not a 727, and I will say DC-9 as well
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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:47 am

Quoting Reply 7):
Based on the island chain, the curve of the beach in the foreground, and the tall structure on that beach, I'd say the plane took off to the northeast out of BOS and you're looking out over Broad Sound.

It's definitely BOS. I would say it had just taken off from what is now runway 33L and is still roughly on the runway heading going slightly northwest with the wing pointing towards the northeast.

Closest timetable I can find is June 1, 1968 when TWA only had 2 daily DC-9 departures from BOS, at 1730 BOS-PIT-ORD, and at 1955 BOS-PIT-DAY-ORD.

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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:53 am

Def BOS. That's the Nahant peninsula in the middle of the picture and Marblehead behind it.
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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:01 am

Ya thats Beachmont right at the end of the wing. Suffolk Downs is basically right under the plane
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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:38 pm

It is a DC-9 series 10 or 15. Look at the wingtip geometry. Every DC-9 and MD-80, MD-90 series has the same wingtip geometry.
Most likely a -10 or -15 due to lack of leading edge slats.
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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:58 pm

Quoting Dldiamondboy (Reply 12):
Most likely a -10 or -15 due to lack of leading edge slats.

There really aren't any -10s. They were built nearly entirely as -15s.

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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:02 pm

The browser tab is labelled "TWA, DC-9-10 taking off from Boston."

The whole album is great.
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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:43 pm

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 6):

100% a DC-9-10. I've changed those wing position lights a lot. Also, the engine nacelle is in the right side of the shot.

Great catch on he reflection of the engine nacelle on the flap, DL_Mech! I totally missed that. Once upon a time I lived in Nahant so I did recognize BOS. I was looking for the big Madonna monument on the top of the hill but that would not have been seen for a few more seconds.
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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:47 pm

Definitely a DC-9 wingtip and not nearly enough do-dads on the wing to be a Boeing.
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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:56 pm

DC9-51 vs DC9-15 wing


Although from a latter series, here is a comparison of DC-9 wings: -51 on left, -15 on right.

(source for left picture: 80s Boeings, DC-9 Trinity And A Date With Audrey (by HBIHLtoEZE Nov 6 2011 in Trip Reports) )

That confirms it, me thinks.

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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:04 am

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 13):
There really aren't any -10s. They were built nearly entirely as -15s.

Quite a few were built as -14s, at least 50. I think the -15 was slightly more numerous. Basically identical except for slightly higher gross weight, and of course the DC-9-15RC passenger/cargo convertible model with main-deck cargo door.
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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sun Oct 18, 2015 3:45 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 18):
Basically identical except for slightly higher gross weight, and of course the DC-9-15RC passenger/cargo convertible model with main-deck cargo door.

Which really are the only ones still flying today, in surprising numbers.

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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sun Oct 18, 2015 5:50 am

Going with DC 9 / derivative as well
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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:54 pm

Quoting delimit (Reply 14):
The browser tab is labelled "TWA, DC-9-10 taking off from Boston."

I may not be an expert on aircraft identification, but that's what I found as well. The full title for the photo is "TWA, DC-9-10 taking off from Boston, sep67"
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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:15 pm

What a wonderful set of pictures

Anyone know what the twin is later in the album?
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RE: 1967 TWA Pic-- What Airliner And Where?

Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:46 pm

Quoting shankly (Reply 22):
Anyone know what the twin is later in the album?
Nice Twin

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