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Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:51 pm

Looks like they will be flown by the SkyWest Airlines side and not Express Jet. Planes will start arriving in August 2016 and all 19 on property by mid 2017.

Here is the link:

http://www.streetinsider.com/Corpora...19+Embraer+E175+Jets/10988921.html
 
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:40 pm

Will these be replacing other regional aircraft that were flying for DL, or is this an overall add? How close is DL to the maximum number of RJs allowed per the current contract?

Since SkyWest is flying these, I expect they'll be based out of LAX, SEA, and SLC.
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 1:56 pm

Quoting FSDan (Reply 1):
Will these be replacing other regional aircraft that were flying for DL, or is this an overall add? How close is DL to the maximum number of RJs allowed per the current contract?

As far as SkyWest is concerned, these planes are all additional new flying without replacing any current SkyWest DL flying. Delta, with this addition is pretty close to being tapped out on their RJ scope, although I do not know the exact figure on where they stand.

SKW had already planned to remove 4 CRJ200's this year, 4 CRJ700's in 2016 and 9 more CRJ200's in 2017 on their DL side due to contracts naturally ending before this was announced.

Quoting FSDan (Reply 1):
Since SkyWest is flying these, I expect they'll be based out of LAX, SEA, and SLC

I am sure these planes will be flown all throughout the SKW DL system, they also do a lot of DL flying out of MSP and DTW.
 
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:07 pm

These aircraft will be flown on the west coast per Chip Childs memo to ExpressJet employees.

[Edited 2015-10-21 08:07:41]
 
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:11 pm

Quoting FSDan (Reply 1):
Since SkyWest is flying these, I expect they'll be based out of LAX, SEA, and SLC.

Another push for SEA coming?
 
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:21 pm

Since OO is drawing down 17 birds over the next couple of years, it sounds like there will only be a net new flying of 2 aircraft
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:34 pm

Quoting EMB170 (Reply 5):
Since OO is drawing down 17 birds over the next couple of years, it sounds like there will only be a net new flying of 2 aircraft

That is if DL doesn't choose to extend any of the flying on those planes which lately they seem to be doing a lot of, considering the fuel prices. But either way it is better than just a net gain of 2 planes when you look at the contract differences between flying CRJ200's and E175's. Considering that until now SKW doesn't fly the E175 for DL, this should open the door down the road to do more. And who knows what will happen with the Republic E170/E175 DL flying, this could also be a leeway into getting those planes as well.
 
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:37 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 4):
Another push for SEA coming?

If it is, it will be interesting to see how Alaska reacts especially with the Horizon negotiations to get jets back in the fleet, although that might not come fast enough.
 
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:49 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 4):
Another push for SEA coming?

I really don't think this order is intended as a "push" for SEA... These planes will be flying out of SLC & LAX more than they will in SEA. DL primarily uses CRJ700's on the regional side out of SEA, and they can't even fill those up right now, I doubt they go to a bigger plane until they can fill up the smaller ones.
 
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:51 pm

Quoting OMNI435 (Reply 6):
That is if DL doesn't choose to extend any of the flying on those planes which lately they seem to be doing a lot of, considering the fuel prices. But either way it is better than just a net gain of 2 planes when you look at the contract differences between flying CRJ200's and E175's. Considering that until now SKW doesn't fly the E175 for DL, this should open the door down the road to do more. And who knows what will happen with the Republic E170/E175 DL flying, this could also be a leeway into getting those planes as well.

True, but oil prices can't stay low forever, and the economics of 50 seat CRJ-200s aren't great even with low fuel prices. Increasingly, 70/76 seats 2-3 times a day into a community is going to be the minimum for service to an airport. You may be right, but I wouldn't bet that the CRJ-200s will get contract extensions. The CRJ-700s might, but that could depend on how old they are and what kind of shape that they're in.

Also: Is OO having the same staffing issues as S5/YX? If not, it may also be an insurance policy for DL in the event that Republic can't fulfill all of the flying. Isn't DL suing YX to try and get out of some of their contracted aircraft because of the staffing issues over at YX and YX's subsequent lower completion rate?
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:01 pm

Is there any method to the madness in how DL is organizing their regional carriers. They seem very intertwined and spread out.

Will Compass maintain a presence in the West for Delta Connection, or is it reasonable to possibly assume they'll move Compass flying back into the Midwest after these planes come online?

It amazing to me that in just a few years the Ejets have literally turned up in every network carriers system, especially on the West coast, with AS, DL, UA, and AA all employing the type considerably.
 
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:07 pm

Quoting flyboy80 (Reply 10):
It amazing to me that in just a few years the Ejets have literally turned up in every network carriers system, especially on the West coast, with AS, DL, UA, and AA all employing the type considerably.

They've really proven themselves as a great airplane, and from a customer stand point, they are far more comfortable than other regional jets. I'm a fan.

Maybe an interesting side note, when Intel Corp. went to Embraer to purchase new jets several years ago, Intel wanted to get the ERJ-145XR's (which they got). Embraer offered the -170 for the same price as the -145! Intel obviously said no to the offer and chose the XR's. Both great airplanes, but the -170 would have been much nicer for Intel employees, and it's not like those flights aren't packed with a waiting list. They are daily.
 
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:23 pm

Quoting flyboy80 (Reply 10):

They learned a very expensive lesson with Comair.....
 
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:32 pm

Quoting EMB170 (Reply 9):
Isn't DL suing YX to try and get out of some of their contracted aircraft because of the staffing issues over at YX and YX's subsequent lower completion rate?

While DL has filed a lawsuit against RAH (the parent company. YX does not fly for DL. S5 does), they have not at any point said that their end goal is to terminate their relationship with RAH. In fact, S5 is still planned (not sure how on earth they'd do it) to add 9 E70 aircraft for DL in 2016.
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:49 pm

Does anyone know how much wider the cabin cross section is on the Ejet series compared to a CRJ?

I know the E jets have the double-bubble which probably adds to roominess because the side walls are perhaps less curved.
 
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:49 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 4):
Another push for SEA coming?

Or moving Compass out...Compass may have been a temporary asset to see if the West Coast plan worked. Now they're starting to move 717s into the markets as well as the 175s and this looks like it might be a dedicated fleet. SkyWest has probably also hit close to critical mass on the 175 operation out west as well. If I'm not mistaken this will give them a 175 operation out west with the big three and Alaska.
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:51 pm

Quoting flyboy80 (Reply 14):
Does anyone know how much wider the cabin cross section is on the Ejet series compared to a CRJ?

Here's a start...

http://airinsight.com/2015/03/04/the-e-jet-and-crj-cabins/
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:32 pm

Quoting bhmdiversion (Reply 3):
These aircraft will be flown on the west coast per Chip Childs memo to ExpressJet employees.

Well, the announcement state they'd be flown by OO.........I'm sure with 19 a/c, they'll be flown more than on just the west coast.
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:37 pm

Hoping for an SLC/XNA with this
 
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:05 pm

So overall there is an expected net gain of two airplanes for the Skywest Airlines operated Delta connection operation when accounting for CRJ200 retirements in 2016?

It will be interesting to see how they organize the West Coast in the near future. Next summer I see many flights out of LAX operated by 717s, which were operated by E175s, and referenced on another thread.
 
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:05 pm

Quoting OMNI435 (Reply 8):
DL primarily uses CRJ700's on the regional side out of SEA

Compass flies more E-175's through SEA than you think. I think there will be fewer CRJ's flying through SEA in the future.
 
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:12 pm

I believe these aircraft will take Delta to the large RJ cap--is this correct? No more placements?
 
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:22 pm

I think the E175's are a good "starter plane" so that in the future the route will grow into a Boeing or Airbus rout - eventually.
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:50 am

Quoting OMNI435 (Reply 8):
I really don't think this order is intended as a "push" for SEA... These planes will be flying out of SLC & LAX more than they will in SEA. DL primarily uses CRJ700's on the regional side out of SEA, and they can't even fill those up right now, I doubt they go to a bigger plane until they can fill up the smaller ones.

You're wrong.

The 19 a/c order is a replacement for the ex-AC E90's DL planned to order and operated themselves until the pilots voted out contract.

The majority of the flying will be SEA. DL is aware of its product weakness running against AS mainline and all-E75 on OO operated for AS in a year. That's what this order is for.
 
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:29 am

Quoting simairlinenet (Reply 21):
I believe these aircraft will take Delta to the large RJ cap--is this correct? No more placements?
Quoting n7371f (Reply 23):

The 19 a/c order is a replacement for the ex-AC E90's DL planned to order and operated themselves until the pilots voted out contract.

Not to meet their target of 325 large RJs?
 
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RE: Skywest Adds 19 E175's To Be Flown For Delta

Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:46 am

Quoting WaywardMemphian (Reply 18):
Hoping for an SLC/XNA with this

That would be nice........give me some more options.
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