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A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:47 pm

Seems to be serious! A plane is on fire in FLL, FL!

Source: http://www.airlive.net/2015/10/breaking-plane-is-on-fire-at-fort.html

Dynamic Air; seems to be a 767; never heard of this airline before.

[Edited 2015-10-29 09:50:34]
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:49 pm

Who is Dynamic I have never heard of them but according to wiki they only have 5 767s and now they are down to 4.
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:49 pm

Looks like a 767 freighter?
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:50 pm

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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:51 pm

Wow, from the looks of that video there are big chunks of the engine cowls floating freely in the wind...uncontained engine failure possibly?
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:51 pm

Looks like another engine failure, with lots of smoke, like BA at LAS.
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:51 pm

The Dynamic flight was a regularly scheduled 762 passenger flight to CCS. They began the route this summer.
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:52 pm

Quoting Sooner787 (Reply 2):
Looks like a 767 freighter?

Looks like a pax version, also rear slide can be seen deployed.
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:54 pm

Another angle



https://twitter.com/airlivenet/status/659774725950976000/photo/1
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:56 pm

WOW! That left engine looks worse than the BA Vegas jet
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 4:58 pm

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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:03 pm

Looks like a lot of damage to the wing and to where the wing connects to the fuselage. I believe the aircraft involved is N251MY, an almost 30 year old 767-200ER.

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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:06 pm

Looks like he was taxiing to runway 28R (a friend said they are on westerly operations today). Those folks are real lucky this happened on a taxiway at nowhere near takeoff power...
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:07 pm

I saw this on CNN before coming here. They said it was just like the BA 777 fire at LAS, so it must be true.
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:09 pm

CNN reports the aircraft had a fuel leak on by the left engine. From video looks like a United 737 is stuck on a taxiway, unable to move forward towards a terminal until the emergency equipment/767 is moved (I know there are bigger issues- just wonder how long it will take for the UA passengers).

has anyone found the selfies yet?
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:10 pm

This aircraft has had an interesting history. It started life with Kuwait Airways, one of three delivered to the airline; neither of the other two survived the Iraqi invasion and were flown to BGW and later destroyed in bombing raids.

9K-AIA went on to have several operators and since one 767 didn't make much sense, it was leased to several other carriers, including Egyptair, Qatar and Polynesian.

More recently, it served for five years with now defunct luxury carrier Maxjet and joined Dynamic Air only last month.

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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:11 pm

According to the FAA registration site, the aircraft was equipped with JT9D-7 engines
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:15 pm

Typical CNN reporting that it was on the runway, instead of on a taxiway!
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:16 pm

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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:18 pm

Damn! I was supposed to be down there today!

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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:20 pm

Any damage larger than a dent bigger than a 50c coin will turn a 30 year old 767 into a writeoff 
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:21 pm

Wonder how many people grabbed their carry on luggage before jumping down the slide...
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:22 pm

They only took delivery of it 6 weeks ago.
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:22 pm

4 exits used, L+R1, the over right overwing, and R2 door. Fire occurred near concourse C (SWA), passengers look to have been moved to concourse C.

Fire is extinguished, so now looks like personal are accessing the aircraft to begin investigation and other activities.

Update:

Two fire trucks just sprayed a white foam underneath the right wing of the aircraft, even though there is no smoke from any point of the aircraft. Is that just to soak up fuel?

Also the mobile command post for broward county fire arrived and is being set up.

[Edited 2015-10-29 10:35:43]
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:32 pm

Wow hope everyone got out ok! My brother in law works at FLL, wonder if he knows anything.
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:33 pm

I apologize if I'm wrong. I think it comes to this plane: Dynamic Airways´ Boeing 767-269(ER), MSN 23280, LN131, reg. N251MY, powered by twin . JT9D-7R4E4 engines. It first flew on 30. Jan 1986...

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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:40 pm

Quoting audidudi (Reply 22):
They only took delivery of it 6 weeks ago.

30 day return policy probably.... Too bad!   
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:42 pm

Quoting Web500sjc (Reply 23):
Two fire trucks just sprayed a white foam underneath the right wing of the aircraft, even though there is no smoke from any point of the aircraft. Is that just to soak up fuel?

More than likely to coat it as opposed to soaking it up. For that there is special material that is granular and booms that you use.
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:46 pm

Quite a unique history of ownership for this frame - https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/Boeing/767/23280/N251MY-MaxJet
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:46 pm

Dynamic is a shady charter operator. They do charters mainly to Guyana, and FLL-CCS. They were invloved in the EZJet Guyana scandal as well as accused of operating cabotage flights in Brazil. They are the some of the same people who ran Pace and Hooters Air.
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:46 pm

Quoting maddogjt8d (Reply 4):
Wow, from the looks of that video there are big chunks of the engine cowls floating freely in the wind...uncontained engine failure possibly?

Is that engine cowling, or flaps and ailerons? There's definitely a lot of material flapping in the stream of the fire hoses, isn't there?
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:53 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 30):
Is that engine cowling, or flaps and ailerons? There's definitely a lot of material flapping in the stream of the fire hoses, isn't there?

That looks like the remains of the lower closeout panels, aft of the spar, forward of the flaps. IIRC, they are made of fiberglass epoxy and don't hold up well to heat of this magnitude.
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:53 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 15):
This aircraft has had an interesting history. It started life with Kuwait Airways, one of three delivered to the airline; neither of the other two survived the Iraqi invasion and were flown to BGW and later destroyed in bombing raids.

9K-AIA went on to have several operators and since one 767 didn't make much sense, it was leased to several other carriers, including Egyptair, Qatar and Polynesian.

Wow, never realized this is the plane had so much history. Maybe its was time for her to retire!
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 5:59 pm

Quoting asuflyer (Reply 29):

I believe they also have some Asian operations as they are currently hiring bilingual flight attendants who speak Cantonese/ Mandarin. This is the description from their job hiring website.

Dynamic International Airways LLC is a US Certificated FAR PART 121 AIR CARRIER providing safe, affordable, long haul, point-to-point air service. Airline is headquartered in Greensboro, NC and offers service from airports in New York, Guyana, Florida, Venezuela, Hong Kong, Palau with its fleet of B767 wide body aircrafts. Recently company has added œInternational in its official name as reflection of its transition into international long haul carrier.

I am trying to decide if this is good marketing for the airline considering prior to this incident no one would be able to name this airline. Obviously bad press, but at least There are no fatalities and people now know that this airline exits and provides service to Venezuela.

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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:03 pm

FLL is closed, per their Twitter account. I hope no one was injured.
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:10 pm

Quoting B757Forever (Reply 31):
That looks like the remains of the lower closeout panels, aft of the spar, forward of the flaps. IIRC, they are made of fiberglass epoxy and don't hold up well to heat of this magnitude.

Cool! Didn't know that, so thanks for the knowledge!

Quoting Web500sjc (Reply 33):
I am trying to decide if this is good marketing for the airline considering prior to this incident no one would be able to name this airline. Obviously bad press, but at least There are no fatalities and people now know that this airline exits and provides service to Venezuela.

Yeah, they're gonna need a name change. This is not a good way to enter the public consciousness.
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:16 pm

Quoting Reffado (Reply 34):
I hope no one was injured.

I live in South FL and was watching the local coverage of the fire. Depending on the station I was watching, 10-15 people were taken to local hospitals for smoke inhalation and injuries associated with the evacuation. None of the stations mentioned any serious injuries.

I found it ironic that when the local TV stations went to commercial, the commercials were for injury lawyers.
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:18 pm

Should it still be closed when Norwegian arrives, what's their divert option?
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:20 pm

Surprised no one had heard of them as they do have 7 767s (http://av-info.faa.gov/detail.asp?DSGN_CODE=2DYA&OPER_FAR=121&OPER_NAME=DYNAMIC+INTERNATIONAL+AIRWAYS+LLC) THe only reason I am familiar with them is because I have been doing some research of US 767 operators for some things at work, .
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:26 pm

Quoting Reffado (Reply 34):
FLL is closed, per their Twitter account.

Why is the entire airport closed? There is a runway available on the south side.  
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:28 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 39):
Why is the entire airport closed? There is a runway available on the south side.  

My guess is because the ARFF is occupied, and could not handle another emergency, should one arise.
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:29 pm

Quoting readytotaxi (Reply 37):
Should it still be closed when Norwegian arrives, what's their divert option?

FLL has a ton of potential alternates that could handle a 787. If you're trying to say something specific as to Norwegian's ops, MCO would be their closest station. I'm not familiar with who handles them and that handler's presence at closer possible airports.
 
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:30 pm

NPR says Captain of another aircraft on the ground at FLL reported seeing a fuel leak on Dynamic Air plane prior to fire. That makes sense, based on photos.
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:34 pm

Are these the same guys who have the Kingair operation, that did spraying and military contract work back in the day?
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:39 pm

Quoting IADCA (Reply 41):

Yep could be MCO, and perhaps that is where most of them wanted to go anyway.  
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 6:48 pm

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 39):

Why is the entire airport closed? There is a runway available on the south side.

It looks like it may be a while longer before the airport can open due to the fire fighting equipment all being deployed. Currently the airport is closed until 6pm. A few planes are holding. There's been a UA 757 IAH-FLL that has been holding over an hour, but if they don't open up until after 6pm as is currently indicated, the planes holding will eventually divert.

Lots of diversions. MCO is picking up most the diversions, but PBI, MIA and TPA all have had some diversions.

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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:16 pm

New audio from Fort Lauderdale plane fire. (CNN)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkdnLVE9Wtg

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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:17 pm

Damn...

At least I was able to caught it on its main destination with that livery, in Caracas a couple of weeks back


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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:17 pm

Quoting D L X (Reply 40):

My guess is because the ARFF is occupied, and could not handle another emergency, should one arise.


Yep ARFF Index is temporarily degraded.
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RE: A Plane On Fire In FLL

Thu Oct 29, 2015 7:24 pm

FAA OIS advisory estimates FLL reopening at 2220Z (620pm) for air carrier ops.

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