747classic wrote:

Nice (updated) summary : :



Original uploaded by Jamaal Hashi, see : https://www.facebook.com/groups/FarewellKLMBoeing747

Remark : PH-BFU was original scheduled for a December 2018 phase-out, however the aircraft is receiving some heavy maintenance (C-check or an extension check) at Jakarta (CGK) and is scheduled for a ferry flight back towards AMS today, see : https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ph-bfu

masonite wrote:

I found this on AviationTag's website, for anyone interested. Luggage tags made out of PH-BFR.

https://www.aviationtag.com/en/produkt/phbfr01/

I have a few of their tags made from a Lufthansa 747 and I love them.

JeremyB wrote:

According to an intern that wrote a blog for KLM, PH-BFB has logged 134.729 flight hours in 18.024 cycles. KLM also confirmed through facebook that she will be preserved at the Corenden Hotel next to Schiphol in February 2019.

na wrote:

JeremyB wrote:

How can PH-BFC have 8.000 hours less (which equals 1,5 years record of flying) than agemate PH-BFC retired half a year ago?

na wrote:

JeremyB wrote:

According to an intern that wrote a blog for KLM, PH-BFB has logged 134.729 flight hours in 18.024 cycles. KLM also confirmed through facebook that she will be preserved at the Corenden Hotel next to Schiphol in February 2019.

Wasnt that the record back in 2016? Or is this the final record? If the latter, its quite strange. How can PH-BFC have 8.000 hours less (which equals 1,5 years record of flying) than agemate PH-BFC retired half a year ago and still less than PH-BFD retired almost two years ago?

na wrote:

JeremyB wrote:

According to an intern that wrote a blog for KLM, PH-BFB has logged 134.729 flight hours in 18.024 cycles. KLM also confirmed through facebook that she will be preserved at the Corenden Hotel next to Schiphol in February 2019.

Wasnt that the record back in 2016? Or is this the final record? If the latter, its quite strange. How can PH-BFC have 8.000 hours less (which equals 1,5 years record of flying) than agemate PH-BFC retired half a year ago and still less than PH-BFD retired almost two years ago?

IWMBH wrote:

PH-BFB is 747-400 while the others are a -400M's, so they where used differently.

na wrote:

na wrote:

JeremyB wrote:

According to an intern that wrote a blog for KLM, PH-BFB has logged 134.729 flight hours in 18.024 cycles. KLM also confirmed through facebook that she will be preserved at the Corenden Hotel next to Schiphol in February 2019.

Wasnt that the record back in 2016? Or is this the final record? If the latter, its quite strange. How can PH-BFC have 8.000 hours less (which equals 1,5 years record of flying) than agemate PH-BFC retired half a year ago and still less than PH-BFD retired almost two years ago?

Typo. Of course I meant "How can PH-BFB have 8.000 hours less...

IWMBH wrote:

PH-BFB is 747-400 while the others are a -400M's, so they where used differently.

That could be an explanation, yes. Though that would be quite surprising is this ends in such significantly different numbers within one fleet (ca. 10% less flying time over the same period of time).

factsonly wrote:

na wrote:

Logic suggests PH-BFB should be closer to 150.000 hours.

Quick and dirty conservative estimate = 29 years, 350 days, 15 hours/day = 152.250 hrs

na wrote:

JeremyB wrote:

According to an intern that wrote a blog for KLM, PH-BFB has logged 134.729 flight hours in 18.024 cycles. KLM also confirmed through facebook that she will be preserved at the Corenden Hotel next to Schiphol in February 2019.

Wasnt that the record back in 2016? Or is this the final record? If the latter, its quite strange. How can PH-BFC have 8.000 hours less (which equals 1,5 years record of flying) than agemate PH-BFC retired half a year ago and still less than PH-BFD retired almost two years ago?

Iemand91 wrote:

Last commercial takeoff at LAX:


Source: https://twitter.com/AeronewsRO/status/1 ... 6703207424

IMG_8651 by Michael Ing, on Flickr

And back at Amsterdam; being towed to the hangar in preparation for the last 2 flights:



Source: https://www.facebook.com/groups/Farewel ... 554685153/

Meanwhile; PH-BFU is heading back to Amsterdam after maintenance at CKG: https://www.flightradar24.com/KLM9876/1eac4768

Iemand91 wrote:

747classic wrote:

Nice (updated) summary : :



Original uploaded by Jamaal Hashi, see : https://www.facebook.com/groups/FarewellKLMBoeing747

Just to correct some things; -BFO has also been scrapped (she's part of and -BFP is also mostly gone; i've seen images of her at Teruel's scrapping area with her wings chopped off.
So -BFP is probably gone by now too. Part's of -BFO has been used for ROC Hoofddorp and parts of -BFP have been used for Landstede in Zwolle.

The status of all other retired 747's is correct; but I can't really verify the current status of -BFE; It's very hard to gather information about that frame.

So all in all; at least 3 or 4 KLM 747-400's have been scrapped so far.

Remark : PH-BFU was original scheduled for a December 2018 phase-out, however the aircraft is receiving some heavy maintenance (C-check or an extension check) at Jakarta (CGK) and is scheduled for a ferry flight back towards AMS today, see : https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/ph-bfu

She was almost back at AMS at the time of your post.

Also; -BFT is now on her way to CGK for the same check: https://www.flightradar24.com/KLM9875/1eafc349

76er wrote:

Presently cruising over the Alps, touchdown one hour from now. Local TV station NH is supposedly showing the arrival live.

FB330 wrote:

I assume it was KLM pilots who brought her home today?

aristoenigma wrote:

Will PH-BFE be converted to some flying use by International Aerospace Group? Or does the cycle and hour count mean it can only be a parts source?

Iemand91 wrote:

Aircraft End-of-Life Solutions (AELS) is holding another auction, selling parts of PH-BFR (pictured in my post above) and bits of PH-BFF.

bennett123 wrote:

Beefstew25

Are you saying that you know it is still there?.

The caption says it was there in the 1990’s.

Iemand91 wrote:

Yesterday; PH-BFN operated KLM's first ever scheduled flight to Las Vegas. She then went on to Los Angeles and then back to Amsterdam.
About a 30 minutes ago; PH-BFH departed Amsterdam to do the same. These are flights specifically for the Consumer Electronics Show.
More about those flights here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1396693


Source: https://twitter.com/daisuke_YH/status/1 ... 9204234241


Source: https://twitter.com/jobertlommerse/stat ... 3119706112

A388 wrote:

Hello everybody. The BA 747 BOAC retrojet is the talk of the day these days. What's the status of the rumor of KLM painting one of their 747's in a retro livery to celebrate their 100th anniversary this year? Will KL still do this?

A388

na wrote:

Iemand91 wrote:

Yesterday; PH-BFN operated KLM's first ever scheduled flight to Las Vegas. She then went on to Los Angeles and then back to Amsterdam.
About a 30 minutes ago; PH-BFH departed Amsterdam to do the same. These are flights specifically for the Consumer Electronics Show.
More about those flights here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1396693

I photographed PH-BFN at LAX last week monday, unloading a Lamborghini Huracan in pouring rain!

Iemand91 wrote:

A388 wrote:

Hello everybody. The BA 747 BOAC retrojet is the talk of the day these days. What's the status of the rumor of KLM painting one of their 747's in a retro livery to celebrate their 100th anniversary this year? Will KL still do this?

A388

That's just something a lot of AVgeeks (including me) would love to see, but KLM has never said it had plans of doing so.
It wouldn't make much sense to paint a 747 that's going to leave the fleet within 2 years any way.
KLM had a 737 flying with retro colours (PH-BXA) for 10 years; it KLM wants to do something similar for their 100th anniversary it would make more sense to paint a 737 again; or a 777 or 787.

na wrote:

Iemand91 wrote:

Yesterday; PH-BFN operated KLM's first ever scheduled flight to Las Vegas. She then went on to Los Angeles and then back to Amsterdam.
About a 30 minutes ago; PH-BFH departed Amsterdam to do the same. These are flights specifically for the Consumer Electronics Show.
More about those flights here: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1396693

I photographed PH-BFN at LAX last week monday, unloading a Lamborghini Huracan in pouring rain!

Yep, there's good money to be made that way and KLM is the only airlines still doing that (it's the only airline with 747-combi aircraft left).
That's going to be a real loss and it's sad to see how the main deck cargo capacity at AF/KLM has shrunk in the last couple of years...

It is really going to happen! Our Boeing 747 will make its final journey from Schiphol Airport to the garden of the Corendon Village Hotel Amsterdam.

What will happen and when?

Starting shot: Tuesday 5 February 22.00 hours - Wednesday 6 February 07.00 hours
On Tuesday 5 February, the aircraft will drive at 22:00 on a gigantic self-propelled trailer of transport giant Mammoet from the hangar to leave Schiphol via the Zwanenburgbaan. The vehicle crosses the Two thousand El around midnight and goes step by step towards the Sloterweg, where the aircraft remains standing for two days to give the Mammoet employees the opportunity to transfer the used road plates for the second stage.

Crossing A9: Friday 8 February 00.00 hours - Saturday 9 February 05.00 hours
In the night of Friday 8 on Saturday 9 February, the most spectacular part of the transport takes place. Around midnight, the Boeing majestically crosses the A9. The traffic towards Haarlem is then equally quiet, the traffic from Haarlem to Schiphol is brought to a halt during the imposing crossing. Then the device continues with a snail's pace the route towards the Corendon Village Hotel. The aircraft will spend the last night in foreign air on the Schipholweg, directly opposite the final destination.

Saturday 9 February during the day (12.00-17.00)
In order to stay informed about the transport, there is a unique control room at the Corendon Village Hotel. This space is open throughout the day for livestreams and information about Corendon Mission 747. Only visitors with an entrance ticket are welcome in the control room.

Schipholweg and the final destination: Saturday 9 February 00.00 hours - Sunday 10 February 04.00 hours
In the night from Saturday to Sunday, the aircraft finally crosses the Schipholweg to take place in the garden of Corendon Village Hotel Amsterdam after 57 parking movements.

Sunday 10 February during the day (12.00-17.00)
The control room is open all day with information about Corendon Mission 747. Only visitors with an entrance ticket are welcome at the hotel.

VISITORS
During the transport three spotter spots have been set up along the route where spotters, enthusiasts and media can follow the plane from a reasonable distance. These places are exclusively for people who have an admission ticket. Furthermore, only visitors with an entrance ticket are welcome in the control room at the hotel.

Jag747400 wrote:

Iemand91 wrote:

A388 wrote:

Hello everybody. The BA 747 BOAC retrojet is the talk of the day these days. What's the status of the rumor of KLM painting one of their 747's in a retro livery to celebrate their 100th anniversary this year? Will KL still do this?

A388

That's just something a lot of AVgeeks (including me) would love to see, but KLM has never said it had plans of doing so.
It wouldn't make much sense to paint a 747 that's going to leave the fleet within 2 years any way.
KLM had a 737 flying with retro colours (PH-BXA) for 10 years; it KLM wants to do something similar for their 100th anniversary it would make more sense to paint a 737 again; or a 777 or 787.

na wrote:

Yep, there's good money to be made that way and KLM is the only airlines still doing that (it's the only airline with 747-combi aircraft left).
That's going to be a real loss and it's sad to see how the main deck cargo capacity at AF/KLM has shrunk in the last couple of years...

KLM is definitely doing a special livery for their 100th. Some of KLM's last 747 planes wont be leaving until the same time as some of British Airways' Last Jumbos. I suspect KLM will apply a cheap decal instead of a whole repaint because I suspect all their 744's going into the 2020's have already been repainted with the revised cheatline. As a KLM lover, I'd love to see a full repaint on the 747-400 and am hopeful it will come. Imagine a white top 747-400

A388 wrote:

Jag747400 wrote:

Iemand91 wrote:

That's just something a lot of AVgeeks (including me) would love to see, but KLM has never said it had plans of doing so.
It wouldn't make much sense to paint a 747 that's going to leave the fleet within 2 years any way.
KLM had a 737 flying with retro colours (PH-BXA) for 10 years; it KLM wants to do something similar for their 100th anniversary it would make more sense to paint a 737 again; or a 777 or 787.


Yep, there's good money to be made that way and KLM is the only airlines still doing that (it's the only airline with 747-combi aircraft left).
That's going to be a real loss and it's sad to see how the main deck cargo capacity at AF/KLM has shrunk in the last couple of years...

KLM is definitely doing a special livery for their 100th. Some of KLM's last 747 planes wont be leaving until the same time as some of British Airways' Last Jumbos. I suspect KLM will apply a cheap decal instead of a whole repaint because I suspect all their 744's going into the 2020's have already been repainted with the revised cheatline. As a KLM lover, I'd love to see a full repaint on the 747-400 and am hopeful it will come. Imagine a white top 747-400

Jag747400 I think you're mistaken. KLM's 747's are all leaving the fleet before British Airways' 747's.

I also do hope KLM will come with a retrojet to celebrate their 100th anniversary. Maybe one of their first livery like on their DC3's is a good one. Their white livery on their 747's is nice but that livery came much later. One of their first liveries will suit a 100th anniversary much better in my opinion.

A388

Iemand91 wrote:

The City of Bangkok was placed on self-propelled modular transporter (SPMT)'s today.
The transportation starts this Tuesday.


https://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/ ... volle-gang


https://www.facebook.com/LuchtvaartNL/p ... permPage=1


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... ge=1&ifg=1



https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... ge=1&ifg=1


https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... ge=1&ifg=1

Iemand91 wrote:

One of the KLM 747 freighters is in Jakarta at the moment for D-check.
She also received the 'new' dolphin livery but with some minor tweaks:


https://www.instagram.com/p/BtP309mFApH/

Compare it with the previous 747 cargo repaint (PH-CKA):

https://www.airliners.net/photo/KLM-Roy ... /5132471/L

-CKB is scheduled to return to Amsterdam Saturday night. Now -CKC is the only remaining 747 freighter with the 'old non-wavy' livery.

A388 wrote:

Jag747400 wrote:

Iemand91 wrote:

That's just something a lot of AVgeeks (including me) would love to see, but KLM has never said it had plans of doing so.
It wouldn't make much sense to paint a 747 that's going to leave the fleet within 2 years any way.
KLM had a 737 flying with retro colours (PH-BXA) for 10 years; it KLM wants to do something similar for their 100th anniversary it would make more sense to paint a 737 again; or a 777 or 787.


Yep, there's good money to be made that way and KLM is the only airlines still doing that (it's the only airline with 747-combi aircraft left).
That's going to be a real loss and it's sad to see how the main deck cargo capacity at AF/KLM has shrunk in the last couple of years...

KLM is definitely doing a special livery for their 100th. Some of KLM's last 747 planes wont be leaving until the same time as some of British Airways' Last Jumbos. I suspect KLM will apply a cheap decal instead of a whole repaint because I suspect all their 744's going into the 2020's have already been repainted with the revised cheatline. As a KLM lover, I'd love to see a full repaint on the 747-400 and am hopeful it will come. Imagine a white top 747-400

Jag747400 I think you're mistaken. KLM's 747's are all leaving the fleet before British Airways' 747's.

I also do hope KLM will come with a retrojet to celebrate their 100th anniversary. Maybe one of their first livery like on their DC3's is a good one. Their white livery on their 747's is nice but that livery came much later. One of their first liveries will suit a 100th anniversary much better in my opinion.

A388