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Turkish Aviation November 2015

Sat Oct 31, 2015 4:39 pm

Hello there Turkish Aviation Fans,
Finally we have the TK retro beauty back:


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Here is a recap of news from last month and few more to add:
-On May 1st AC starts using 787-8 on YYZ-IST route
-TK drops Tokyo to 7xW startgin March 2016
-TK ups LAX to 11xW from S16
-Recently THY call center started having an option to continue in Arabic (besides Turkish and English)
-Atlasjet was to receive its first of ten Bombardier jets his month, what happened?
-TK starts 4xWDurban tag-on starting Nov5
-THY's Avci recently said that they will receive 49 jets in 2016. That is more than expected.
-TK to JFK to go back to seeing 2xD77Ws, 1xD333 next summmer.
-News that 2-3 77W frames to loose Comfort class this year.
-Pegasus carries 16.8M pax first 9 months of 2015; flying to a total of 102 destinations. Pegasus captures 28% of domestic and 9.4% of International market.
-If you haven't so, I would recommend the book by the BA747 pilot, Mark Vanhoenacker, "Skyfaring"
-Few DLM notes; my sister just bought a one way DLM-SAW ticket for next April for 15TL (that is $5), and also I heard from the station chief that during the winter they are reducing flights but going to use A321s/A330 between IST and DLM.

Please continue with your news, views, pictures, rumors, rants and all and as usual keep up the sense of humor.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Sat Oct 31, 2015 8:32 pm

I was at a certain reception where some certain officials said TK is starting IST-BOG-PTY  
The translator however messed it up a bit and said TK is starting ESB-BOG-PTY  
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Sat Oct 31, 2015 9:31 pm

Many fleet updates last month;

- TK A321 TC-JRL has now Star Alliance livery
- TC-JNC in beautiful retro livery and first foreign name "Kushimoto"
- TC-JJU has no longer San Francisco livery
- TK took delivery of 55th A321, TC-JTD
- Atlasjet take 2 Metrojet A320s: TC-AGO and TC-AGU.
- Pegasus take a B738 TC-CPY which was not taken by Malaysia
- Anadolujet/Sunexpress will return/returned 2 B737-700 (TC-SAZ and TC-SBB) and a B737-800 (TC-SNL) to lessor. Other B737-700s will follow.

There are many rumors of new destinations. TK add Hanoi to their wish list. Airkule.com wrote TK start Mauritius in December 2015. TK CEO said next year they will add %25 capacity to America. Atlanta and more flights to LAX we know. Other new destination maybe?

When comes the other destinations on their wish list?

On the TK presentation of June 2015, there are 43 new aircraft coming in 2016. TK officials talk last about 49 new aircraft. Anybody know something about the other 6?

[Edited 2015-10-31 14:32:31]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Sat Oct 31, 2015 9:46 pm

This is my first post in this special Turkish thread.
Any news/ updates about the new IST, and any idea what will happen to the old Airport
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:16 pm

Hello to all,
I have a question regarding connecting in Istanbul. Last night I was on board AZ702 from Rome and after we landed the captain made an interesting remark. He announced: "due to regulations at this airport" all passengers connecting to other flights (whether intl. or domestic) must collect their baggages and pass through customs and immigration. Is this something new or the captain made a mistake? I get the domestic part due to obvious reasons but didn't know one can't connect intl to intl in Turkey without legally entering the country (like in the US and unlike many other places)
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Sat Oct 31, 2015 11:01 pm

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):

Thanks for the new thread . The retro jet is something I was waiting for. Looks great  
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:18 am

Quoting boun (Reply 4):
I get the domestic part due to obvious reasons but didn't know one can't connect intl to intl in Turkey without legally entering the country (like in the US and unlike many other places)

As a foreign carrier they have no chance to offer baggage check through to the final destination. Probably that is what he meant.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Sun Nov 01, 2015 3:59 pm

How long will they keep the retro livery?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:47 pm

First of all I much like the retro   guess chances are big that will pass in ZRH one day!

Otherwise TK is really growing, btw thanks for sharing the news. My thought they simply go EK style  

I very much like to travel with them ALA-IST-ALA as they use the B739ER.

I guess the A380 in future "Idea" is from the table?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:53 pm

Any chance of seeing IST-BOS upgraded to 2x daily or perhaps 773ER daily and a A332 or A333 3 or 4x weekly?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:43 pm

A few years ago whilst at an IATA conference, I heard mumblings of TK starting a low cost Long haul spinoff similar to Lufthansa's plans. Can anyone here give any weight to those rumours?

[Edited 2015-11-02 08:45:42]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:00 pm

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
Finally we have the TK retro beauty back:

She is certainly quite a beauty. Makes me remember back to the fond days with the A310 in late 1980s.

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 3):
This is my first post in this special Turkish thread.

Welcome.

Quoting UAEflyer (Reply 3):
Any news/ updates about the new IST, and any idea what will happen to the old Airport

New airport now planned operational by Q1 2018.

TK plans to move over for the IATA S18 schedule.

Old airport at moment either remains for GA traffic, or is closed and used for things like conference/fair grounds.

Quoting georgiabill (Reply 9):
Any chance of seeing IST-BOS upgraded to 2x daily or perhaps 773ER daily and a A332 or A333 3 or 4x weekly?

Not at the moment. BOS is still a small market. After planned LAX frequency adds, the TK US markets that could use more capacity are ORD and maybe IAD.

Quoting Chaostheory (Reply 10):
A few years ago whilst at an IATA conference, I heard mumblings of TK starting a low cost Long haul spinoff similar to Lufthansa's plans. Can anyone here give any weight to those rumours?

TK is a low cost carrier itself. Its longhaul CASK are 35% lower then European peers like LH.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:10 am

TK is adding additional international flights from ESB in addition to existing ESB FRA and ESB VKO by adding Vienna and Berlin.It is also rumoured that ESB VKO will go double daily soon but I guess that may require slots by Russian CAA..

TK is reinstating ESB TXL ESB and ESB VIE ESB from 22 and 24 December respectivley on a twice weekly basis. The ESB VIE route is already served by Pegasus from ESB on a yearound basis and ESB TXL by GW/EW and by SunExpress..

Still no news from AnadoluJet's bid in June to launch thrice weekly ESB LON, ESB BRU and ESB AMS... I wonder why TK is planning on a dual track expansion from ESB to serve some destinations by mainline TK and carve-out LON, BRU and AMS to AJet, may be they will revise their plans and expand TK mainline into those destinations too...Currently AJet's only international service exESB is to/from ECN

Also TK will continue ESB GVA ESB in S16 that they introduced in S15.

[Edited 2015-11-02 21:11:37]
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:27 pm

BoraJet is launching ESB BEI ESB thrice weekly from November 23rd.
The route was served from 1954 till 1990 by MEA historically and TK also did the route on and off between 60'ies until 1979.
It is great to see the two capitals being connected again.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Tue Nov 03, 2015 8:41 pm

TK starts MRU in December. 3pwk, going up to 4pwk.


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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:15 pm

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 14):

There is also a tag to Antanarivo.

TK160 IST 01:10 - 12:55 MRU 14:10 - 15:00 Antanarivo
TK161 Antanarivo 16:30 - 19:20 MRU 20:35 - 04:15 IST

That means another 2 new countries, now 112 served countries?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:28 pm

Turkey hopeful of bilateral expansion with India. According to this article

- TK intends to add AMD, ATQ, BLR, MAA, HYD & CCU with either Boeing B777-300ER or Airbus A330-300.
- TK also intends to upgauge DEL from Airbus A330-300 to Boeing B777-300ER
- Turkish officials are hopeful that bilateral talks will proceed smoothly after Indian PM visit to Turkey this month

http://www.financialexpress.com/arti...-six-new-gateways-in-india/160653/

Let's hope it works out!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:40 am

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 15):
TK160 IST 01:10 - 12:55 MRU 14:10 - 15:00 Antanarivo
TK161 Antanarivo 16:30 - 19:20 MRU 20:35 - 04:15 IST

TK needs to revamp its longhaul flight numbering. They are all over the place with these numbers, obviously because of historical reasons, but right now a regrouping of flight number is in order.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Wed Nov 04, 2015 6:01 am

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 17):

Agreed. 2xxx for domestic and 1xxx for Europe is pretty standard now, but for long haul, CIS, Africa and MidEast it is really all over the place.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Wed Nov 04, 2015 11:16 am

Quoting atal17 (Reply 16):
- TK intends to add AMD, ATQ, BLR, MAA, HYD & CCU with either Boeing B777-300ER or Airbus A330-300.
- TK also intends to upgauge DEL from Airbus A330-300 to Boeing B777-300ER

If this materializes, TK will be A380 ready for some US destinations
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Wed Nov 04, 2015 3:44 pm

TK now sponsoring rugby.

http://twitter.com/TurkishAirlines/status/661911923626278913/photo/1

Official partners of European Rugby Challenge Cup and the Rugby Champions Cup.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Thu Nov 05, 2015 6:42 am

Changes to the South African network for S16 (with more inconsistent flight numbering) include the end of nonstop operations to CPT as well as the introduction of 3 additional JNB terminators:

4 weekly IST JNB MPM as TK039/040
3 weekly IST JNB CPT as TK040/041
4 weekly IST DUR CPT as TK058/059
3 weekly IST JNB terminator as TK162/163

If I am not mistakes TK058/059 was previously used for the Singapore services.

The new terminator service to Johannesburg has a nonstandard schedule for TK's longhaul network:

TK162 IST JNB 2105 0555+1
TK163 JNB IST 0725 1800

Connectivity at IST for these flights must be better in the evening than in the morning.

I assume that the suspension of the CPT nonstop terminators might be for the NS16 only and that TK may reintroduce a CPT nonstop for NW16.
 
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:47 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 20):

I was wondering when they would do that. A wise move given the recent World cup and publicity it generates.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:11 pm

Three additional weekly IST IAD flights from next summer:

TK177 IST IAD 0640 1110
TK178 IAD IST 1240 0555

Thrice weekly with A333.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Thu Nov 05, 2015 4:41 pm

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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:46 pm

Quoting Miami (Reply 24):
Three additional weekly IST IAD flights from next summer:

TK177 IST IAD 0640 1110
TK178 IAD IST 1240 0555

Thrice weekly with A333.

Weird schedule, bad for connections!

Flight should have departed 1,5h later and arrived back later. That would have been optimal for connections
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Thu Nov 05, 2015 9:58 pm

Is there any source to find out details of bilaterals between Turkey and other countries?

I just found a list of countries but no details (how many flights to where is allowed).
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:19 pm

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 25):
bad for connections!

which end IAD (with UA) or IST
Airlines flown: A3, AA, AC, AF, AM, BA, B6, CA, CO, CX, DL, EA, EL, IB, LH, MI, MQ, NH, NW, NZ, OU, PE, QF, S4, SQ, TP, UA, US, VS, WE, WN

2019: CX BOS-HKG, WE HKG-HKT, CA HKT-PEK-EWR, B6 EWR-BOS
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:43 pm

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 21):

The new terminator service to Johannesburg has a nonstandard schedule for TK's longhaul network:

TK162 IST JNB 2105 0555 1
TK163 JNB IST 0725 1800

Connectivity at IST for these flights must be better in the evening than in the morning.

Same bank as 2nd souteast asia bank like BKK, KUL

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 25):

TK177 IST IAD 0640 1110
TK178 IAD IST 1240 0555

Thrice weekly with A333.

Weird schedule, bad for connections!

Connects incoming Middle East pax to IAD, and pax from IAD to Europe.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:56 pm

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 25):
Weird schedule, bad for connections!

Its basically exactly same schedule as the early TK3 to JFK that departs at 0720 next summer and TK4 returning at 0540.

Flight should be able to pick up the Mideast/Africa 3-5am arrivals at IST and on return be able to connect to virtually anything after 7am from IST.

I think TK has enough experience with TK3/4 to see what opportunity there is from similar timed IAD flight.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:38 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 29):
Its basically exactly same schedule as the early TK3 to JFK that departs at 0720 next summer and TK4 returning at 0540.

7:20 makes a lot more sense, but 6:40 allows only for connections from Yanbu, Riyadh and Tel Aviv... All other connections are far east or european and would not make a lot of sense.

OR TK is trying something out by offering much longer layovers for passengers and giving the chance for discovering the city.... This is what EK does quite successfully.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:04 pm

New pax numbers are out, traffic 11/2014 - 10/2015
IST 61.342.593 --> IST will have > 62 million pax in 2015 (and probably overtake FRA to become #3 in Europe
SAW 27.335.968 --> SAW will have > 28 million pax in 2015
In total both Istanbul airports will have handled > 90 million pax in 2015
 
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Fri Nov 06, 2015 2:09 pm

Some more stat info here in this article about DUB. Mentions IST and ESB.


In that category, Tel Aviv was the fastest-growing airport, with a 25.1pc increase in passenger traffic. Istanbul was second with 24.1pc, Ankara third with 19.5pc and Athens fourth with an 18.3pc increase.

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...pes-busiest-airports-34174321.html
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:18 pm

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 15):
TK160 IST 01:10 - 12:55 MRU 14:10 - 15:00 Antanarivo
TK161 Antanarivo 16:30 - 19:20 MRU 20:35 - 04:15 IST

These flights only seem bookable until the end of March. Will this just be a seasonal flight?
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Fri Nov 06, 2015 6:36 pm

Turkish Airlines cancels flights to Egypt's Sharm al-Sheikh for two days

ANKARA (Reuters) - Turkish Airlines canceled flights to Sharm al-Sheikh in Egypt on Friday and Saturday nights over security concerns, after a Russian airliner which took off from there crashed on Saturday.

The flag-carrier dispatched a security team to Sharm al-Sheikh airport to assess security procedures earlier on Friday.

http://news.yahoo.com/turkish-airlin...-al-sheikh-152519896--finance.html
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:44 pm

Latest TK financials are out.

Operating profit USD $1.27Bil with $877 million net profit in the first nine months of 2015

EBITDAR margin 26.2 percent.

First nine months saw ASK increase of 12.6 percent with 46.5 million passengers carried.

They now estimate to end 2015 with 61.7mil pax carried.

According to its quarterly presentation - TK figures it now can cover 76.8% of global international passenger flows and serves 42 of 50 top airports. In comparison LH provides 78.1% coverage at 44 of 50 airports, BA 77.6% serving 43 of 50, EK 74.1% at 41 airports and AF 67.1% covering 39 top airports.

TK also says its provides the highest connectivity between Europe-Africa-Middle East with 19,250 potential O&D flight pairs compared to 8,550 for LH and 8.544 by BA.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:59 pm

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 31):
New pax numbers are out, traffic 11/2014 - 10/2015
IST 61.342.593 --> IST will have > 62 million pax in 2015 (and probably overtake FRA to become #3 in Europe
SAW 27.335.968 --> SAW will have > 28 million pax in 2015
In total both Istanbul airports will have handled > 90 million pax in 2015

Thanks for that. I think its near certain IST will pass FRA simply based on growth rate. FRA year to date growth is 3.6pct while IST is 9pct+

FRA has not reported October yet, but as of September it stood at 47,280,714 passengers. Even a busy month at FRA is about 6mil pax, but we know October is not very busy, so lets say 5mil pax max would put it at about 52mil. Similarly Nov & Dec are not going to be very busy either and based on last year I don't see FRA breaking above 61mil.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 35):
Operating profit USD $1.27Bil with $877 million net profit in the first nine months of 2015
EBITDAR margin 26.2 percent.

 Wow!
Wow. Even with weak currency profits increasing. And what great margin.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:16 am

Delta updated its S16 schedule this weekend.

IST resumes May 1st.

Route now scheduled to operate with 246 seat 764 until Sept 6 when 226-seat 763 takes over until Oct 4th.
This previous summer DL used a 293 seat A333 at IST.

In comparison TK will be again be 3x daily on the route with mix of A333 and 77W.

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 36):
think its near certain IST will pass FRA simply based on growth rate. FRA year to date growth is 3.6pct while IST is 9pct+

Pretty amazing how sleepy Yesilkoy has turned into one of the worlds busiest airports. I can remember the time when one could wait 10 minutes between seeing aircraft movements.

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 36):
Wow. Even with weak currency profits increasing. And what great margin.

Guess Kotil was right one year ago when he said a weaker currency would actually benefit TK.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Mon Nov 09, 2015 1:47 am

Quoting HB-IWC (Reply 23):
Three additional weekly IST IAD flights from next summer:

TK177 IST IAD 0640 1110
TK178 IAD IST 1240 0555

Thrice weekly with A333.

Given the fact that TK long haul flights are never on time, 1:30 turn around time is pretty ambitious.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Mon Nov 09, 2015 9:47 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 37):
Pretty amazing how sleepy Yesilkoy has turned into one of the worlds busiest airports.

If someone is interested in the latest developments of IST: Googlemaps updated that map.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:31 am

Wooooow,

Emirates entering into the backyard of TK:

EK119 DXB1715 – 2015SAW 332 D
EK120 SAW2205 – 0420+1DXB 332 D

Does that mean that the bilateral between the two countries changed? I did not know that they were able to operate to SAW.

No matter what, this is a serious blow to TK, since a lot of business travellers from Kocaeli or Bursa can get to SAW much faster.

[Edited 2015-11-09 03:37:21]
 
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Mon Nov 09, 2015 4:44 pm

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 40):
No matter what, this is a serious blow to TK, since a lot of business travellers from Kocaeli or Bursa can get to SAW much faster.

Dont you already have FZ and PC flying SAW-DXB?

I suspect its because EK inability to get slots at IST for 3rd flight so they went to SAW instead.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:04 pm

Is the reelection of Recep Erdogan and his party good for TK and Turkish aviation, airports, etc.? My general impression, from afar and perhaps very biased (and without having looked into the situation very carefully beyond the media headlines), is that he is authoritarian, controls the press, is not too concerned about democratic values and has been in power for a very long time. On the other hand, strong leadership may preserve stability and sometimes may be necessary to get things done when the alternative might be that there would be so many competing voices that nothing could be agreed upon.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:24 pm

EK at SAW puzzles me because if the airline were so desperate regarding slots in IST, they could have tried bigger equipment ( maybe the new 2-class 380s). They have been 11w for a lot of time, I am sure they could also have introduced an extra 4w even maybe a a sub-daily 3rd flight. Over the years IST has lost many frequencies by foreign carriers (DL, KL, AF, Air Baltic, now LH ...)
However I am assuming those slots were available for fair reallocation.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:27 pm

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 41):
Dont you already have FZ and PC flying SAW-DXB?

Yes.

SAW is also served by Air Arabia, Qatar and flyNAS

Quoting reality (Reply 42):
Is the reelection of Recep Erdogan and his party good for TK and Turkish aviation, airports, etc.?

Yes, yes, and yes.

The AK party and its liberal economic policies are very much driving forces behind the growth we've seen.
From deregulation of domestic market place, abolishment of many travel related taxes, privatization, huge focus on transportation infrastructure (road, rail, air), pursuit of open-skies policies, etc all directly had big positive impacts.

Btw - one major correction - Erdogan was not standing in the last election. He is president and had his own election last year. This election was a parliamentary one.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:38 pm

Quoting reality (Reply 42):
TK and Turkish aviation, airports, etc.?

He and his party are generally good for modernising Turkey and getting projects fast tracked even if some have caused concern by various environmental groups/heritage organisations. ( according to my Turkish friends ) . What many young more European Turks fear is a further crackdown on civil liberties and freedoms they have enjoyed. Only time will tell.

But you have to credit him for the work done in the aviation sector for sure.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:52 pm

Quoting bahadir (Reply 38):
Given the fact that TK long haul flights are never on time, 1:30 turn around time is pretty ambitious.

Not for summer. If they depart without crazy delay, arrive always on time or earlier. Winter is another story...

Turnung araound in 90 minutes will be pita of course  
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:59 pm

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 40):

wooow, rabbit off the hat !!!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Tue Nov 10, 2015 12:59 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 44):
SAW is also served by Air Arabia, Qatar and flyNAS

Interesting that those along with FlyDubai plus now Emirates so many Arab airlines made a home at SAW.

Any particular demographic or political reason ??
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Tue Nov 10, 2015 7:41 am

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 48):

Interesting that those along with FlyDubai plus now Emirates so many Arab airlines made a home at SAW.

Any particular demographic or political reason ??

The best reason, as mentioned before, lack of slots at IST. Most airlines would like to serve IST as it is much closer to the tourism hot spots, but there is no room anymore.

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