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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:37 pm

Pegasus reported its earnings. Revenue up 14% year-on-year to US$924.9 million and operational EBITDAR up 22% to $218.0 million for first nine months of 2015.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:57 am

Reporting from IST; about to board TK1.
This airport is out of control!!!
There were about 40 people in front of me at passport control (Start GOLD line). I was sent to the new line at the TK Lounge Passport control, it was even worse. So I walked back to the original line. People are frustrated, everyone asking for special treatment and I think they should. Regular passport control points only half manned.
Airport is crowded for walking leisurely.
TK lounge is busting at seams. No food avail at certain stations, like "Pide station", lines forming for the next batch.
I am sooo happy that my favorite station is all left to myself "Help yourself Red Wine".
Hope it all goes smoother on board, (fingers crossed)
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:31 am

Quoting TK787 (Reply 51):
TK lounge is busting at seams. No food avail at certain stations, like "Pide station", lines forming for the next batch.
I am sooo happy that my favorite station is all left to myself "Help yourself Red Wine".

It is concerning to read the reports of the lounge on other forums too. A few regulars who I know and go through IST weekly report what you just have about food being severely reduced and not replaced when gone. Is this a cost cutting measure or are they simply overwhelmed? It used to be so well run. Reports of bad state of repair of parts of the lounge too. I guess they could do with two very large lounges given the size of the operation.
 
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Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:17 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 52):
Reports of bad state of repair of parts of the lounge too.

The last time I went to IST's TK lounge, the showers downstairs were out of order, and the waiting time for the showers upstairs was quoted to me as 3 hours (!). So no shower after CPT-JNB-IST. Very frustrating.
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Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:41 pm

Quoting UALWN (Reply 53):
The last time I went to IST's TK lounge, the showers downstairs were out of order, and the waiting time for the showers upstairs was quoted to me as 3 hours (!). So no shower after CPT-JNB-IST. Very frustrating.

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Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:20 pm

No surprise, TK is now Russia's largest foreign airline in market share as others such as once leader LH reduce activity.
So far in 2015 TK flew over 1-million customers on its Russia routes and is planning adding six more Russian destinations.

An analyst says it will be very hard for foreign carriers to build back up in Russia once things return to normal as TK will have grown larger becoming stronger particularly with the benefit of its much lower cost structure compared to European peers. (35-40% lower CASK)

Turkish Air Is Russia's Top Foreign Carrier as Lufthansa Recedes
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...reign-carrier-as-lufthansa-recedes

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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:10 pm

Did anyone else realize as well? TK has enlarged the ground time for many flights to 1:30h instead of the standard 1h turn around time.

Examples are FRA,AMS,TLV etc.

Seems like they are moving away from the changing around strategy away ....
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:54 am

Question: TK operates an A330-300 from Afriqiyah Airways (cn 1499 / TC-JOM) and was supposed to get another one (cn 1535 / TC-JON). What's the status on the second aircraft?

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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:50 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 51):
Hope it all goes smoother on board, (fingers crossed)
Quoting OA260 (Reply 52):
Is this a cost cutting measure or are they simply overwhelmed?

I am afraid to say, they just don't know how to deal with it.
One simple solution can solve a lot of the problems. "Portion Control"
At this point, people pick up a plate and ask the Chef to fill up their plate. Yesterday I saw people literally piling up food on their plates. One guy took 10 koftes. Lot of this stuff going to waste.
I'm sure like any buffet type service, every food item should be preportioned and people should be allowed to take only one and return for seconds. I think this will reduce the wait/waste by more than half if not eliminate.

About showers and bathrooms in general... I think there are not enough for all these travelers, period.

Rest of my TK1 flight was uneventful. 80% load with 231 pax on board.
Probably the smoothest flight ever, and 11 hours due to strong headwinds.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:26 pm

To what extent has TK benefitted from LH's week long crew strike. I was travelling from JFK-FRA-BHX and was extremely lucky to be on flights which weren't cancelled - when all other flights around them were. I know LH were rerouting onto other Star Alliance carriers including TK, but how much revenue do they get from rebookings?
 
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Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:20 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 58):
Question: TK operates an A330-300 from Afriqiyah Airways (cn 1499 / TC-JOM) and was supposed to get another one (cn 1535 / TC-JON). What's the status on the second aircraft?

Good question. I have not seen reference to TC-JON in any of the manuals yet.

Most recent used A330 arrival was TC-LNB stored Kingfisher aircraft which entered service in Star Alliance colors in Oct.
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Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:35 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 59):
One simple solution can solve a lot of the problems. "Portion Control"
At this point, people pick up a plate and ask the Chef to fill up their plate. Yesterday I saw people literally piling up food on their plates. One guy took 10 koftes. Lot of this stuff going to waste.
I'm sure like any buffet type service, every food item should be preportioned and people should be allowed to take only one and return for seconds. I think this will reduce the wait/waste by more than half if not eliminate.

Yes well sadly some do not know how to behave in lounges and grab anything and everything they can. I have seen it in many lounges from BA/UA/IB/AF/SK etc... plates half full and just left along with expensive drinks. Maybe the idea of staff in these areas serving the food rather than passengers taking it might be a good idea. It is a sin to leave food !

Quoting TKA380 (Reply 60):
I know LH were rerouting onto other Star Alliance carriers including TK, but how much revenue do they get from rebookings?

They have been using TK a lot from DUB-IST-XXX for those that were on LH DUB-FRA-XXX Im sure 1: its good revenue 2: its good PR for TK and maybe some passengers who chose LH will look at TK in future.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:40 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 62):
Maybe the idea of staff in these areas serving the food rather than passengers taking it might be a good idea.

At IST lounge Chefs serving the food, but people keep asking to pile more and more...
What I suggest is pre-portioned plates to be in display cases and people pick one plate at a time, like IKEA cafe style.
I will try to take some pictures of the mess this weekend when I go back.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Fri Nov 13, 2015 12:34 pm

Regarding the lounge, the main problem that bothers me the most is that there is not enough staff the clear the used plates/glasses from the tables. It is always filthy, no matter what time of the day it is
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:23 pm

Quoting northstar80 (Reply 63):
that there is not enough staff

The other day, I asked one of the staff, if he has ever seen a person removing a bottle of wine from the wine tray and bring it to table.
He said : "Yes, not one but total of 3 bottles and asked the server to bring a fourth bottle" ( ....some people!!!)
 
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Fri Nov 13, 2015 1:35 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 64):

Well I have seen in the BA Galleries First lounge at LHR someone with a flask pouring whiskey into it ! I kid you not...
 
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Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:55 pm

Can anyone summarise the remaining number of A330's and B777 yet to come from the original order of 15+5 of each?
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Fri Nov 13, 2015 4:34 pm

IIRC,

-1 more 77W this year, 6 more next year and 3 more in 2017
-no more A333 this year, 5 more in 2016 and that's it.
-2 more 332F next year, 1 more in 2017 and that's it.

Please correct if I'm wrong.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:04 pm

DHMI has put out some early guidance on the 3rd airport.

Initial phase 1 forecast capacity guidelines effective Q1 2018:

Average Hourly Movements: 90 (65 at IST today)
Parking spots: 181 (incl remote apron spots)
Annual pax capacity: 90mil

Future phases will raise pax capacity to 150mil and hourly movements to excess of 150 once all 4 terminals(with 165 jetway gates) and 6 runways are developed.
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Fri Nov 13, 2015 6:56 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 69):

I think this capacity is already not enough. We can expect above 75M passengers for the first operational year of 3rd Airport which is >80% capacity. However I expect a rapid increase in demand soon after, once limitations of IST is over. We can see 90M+ annual passangers much before than what is planned.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Fri Nov 13, 2015 7:45 pm

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 57):
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 60):

This aircraft is the reason why TK has changed the expected end year fleet from 300 to 299. According to planespotters, TC-JON has status 'ntu = not taken up'

Quoting TK787 (Reply 67):
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 68):

Kotil and Ayci spoke about 49 aircraft next year. From where and what type are the 6 aircraft not listed?
 
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Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:04 pm

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 71):
This aircraft is the reason why TK has changed the expected end year fleet from 300 to 299. According to planespotters, TC-JON has status 'ntu = not taken up'

What about tc-lnb, also still not in service!
 
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Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:28 pm

If we could know all bilateral details, we could expect next moves of TK according to new destinations and frequency changes.

At ICAN15, SHGM has signed 36 new bilaterals. Which countries? How many frequencies?

Here is the list of countries with bilaterals..

http://web.shgm.gov.tr/tr/uluslarara...skiler/2188-uluslararasi-iliskiler
 
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Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:20 pm

Yes the 3rd airport will be quite busy from the first day, but if we remember additional phases will be completed rather fast.
Phase 2 is mere 2 after opening which that adds an additional terminal and runway. I am sure phase 3 and 4 could be move up also if demand warrants.


From a previous post the plans were:

Stage 1 = 2017:
- Main terminal with 680,000sq meter
- Additional satellite building 170,000sq meter - the total capacity of both terminals will be 90mil passengers per year
- 88 jetway contact gates
- Car park for 42,000 cars
- three independent runways
- 3.1mil sq meter apron

Stage 2 = 2019
- additional terminal - 200,000 sq meter
- additional runway + additional high speed taxiways for existing runways
- additional 1mil sq meter apron

Stage 3 = 2021
- additional terminal - 200,000 sq meter
- additional runway + taxiway systems
- additional 1mil sq meter apron

Stage 4 = 2025
- additional terminal - 250,000 sq meter
- additional runway + additional taxiways
- Additional 0.9mil sq meter apron

Key facts:
- 1.5mil sq terminal space area
- Capacity of 150mil passengers per year
- 6 runways (4 parallel + 2 crosswind parallel) all VLA capable
- 165 jetway contact gates
- intra-terminal rail connection
- 3 separate maintenance hangar areas
- 8 cargo ramp areas
- Apron space for 500 aircraft spread over 6.5mil sq meters
- Direct airport auto parking lots for 70,000 cars
- Additional adjacent facilities including hospital, hotels, mosque, congress center, waste recycling and water treatment facility.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:18 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 44):
Is the reelection of Recep Erdogan and his party good for TK and Turkish aviation, airports, etc.?

Yes, yes, and yes.

The AK party and its liberal economic policies are very much driving forces behind the growth we've seen.
From deregulation of domestic market place, abolishment of many travel related taxes, privatization, huge focus on transportation infrastructure (road, rail, air), pursuit of open-skies policies, etc all directly had big positive impacts.

To be sincere we have to say that these were part of the economical plans made by the Minister of Economy of the year 2001/2002 Kemal Dervis of the Ecevit cabinet. After the crisis and change of government the now ruling party decided to continue this policies. Saying it is "invented" by AKP is not right, benefits are showing within their term.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 45):

He and his party are generally good for modernising Turkey and getting projects fast tracked even if some have caused concern by various environmental groups/heritage organisations. ( according to my Turkish friends ) . What many young more European Turks fear is a further crackdown on civil liberties and freedoms they have enjoyed. Only time will tell.

But you have to credit him for the work done in the aviation sector for sure.

In depends on how you define "modernising". You are right if it comes to shiny buildings, but definitely wrong if it comes to society and civil rights.

Turkish economy is presenting good numbers as a result of cheap money. When interest rates start increasing and money is withdrawn from Turkey abroad Turkish economy will crack down... Let´s not forget that the base for business is that property is under guarantee. We will see how foreign companies are willing to accept that there is basically no independent jurisdiction in Turkey. And when economy cracks down in Turkey, aviation will also see a setback.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:01 pm



Quoting boun (Reply 43):
EK at SAW puzzles me because if the airline were so desperate regarding slots in IST, they could have tried bigger equipment ( maybe the new 2-class 380s).

Just to clarify this. A380 ops at IST are not authorized, so that's not an option for EK. 380 ops constitute too much of a disruption.

[Edited 2015-11-14 10:16:17]
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Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:11 pm

Quoting Turkish350xwb (Reply 75):
Turkish economy is presenting good numbers as a result of cheap money. When interest rates start increasing and money is withdrawn from Turkey abroad Turkish economy will crack down... Let´s not forget that the base for business is that property is under guarantee. We will see how foreign companies are willing to accept that there is basically no independent jurisdiction in Turkey. And when economy cracks down in Turkey, aviation will also see a setback.

Hopefully the aviation sector will see less of a set back as TK builds on its transit hub. We already saw a downtown in Turkish tourism and what happens on Turkeys borders will very much determine growth for next year but as with Greece even in difficult times airlines can still flourish like A3/OA are doing now. There could be a downturn in domestic growth and even a decline but lets hope international and transit are not hit too much.
 
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Sat Nov 14, 2015 6:36 pm

Quoting Turkish350xwb (Reply 75):
To be sincere we have to say that these were part of the economical plans made by the Minister of Economy of the year 2001/2002 Kemal Dervis of the Ecevit cabinet.

Even if given a road map, we must recognize that was 14+ years ago.

Certainly lots has occurred in between globally and the AKP government has certainly adapted and managed very well to guide the economy and keep the planes flying.

The Economist magazine two weeks ago in story about Turkey mentioned how GDP per capita had tripled under AKP leadership something almost unheard of in such short period globally (in less than 1 generation) and was the number one OECD in economic growth.

So like them or not, the AKP have done amazing and we are seeing much of their hard work in the aviation sector - be it with THY, infrastructure, etc.
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Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:32 am

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 78):
Even if given a road map, we must recognize that was 14+ years ago.

Certainly lots has occurred in between globally and the AKP government has certainly adapted and managed very well to guide the economy and keep the planes flying.

The Economist magazine two weeks ago in story about Turkey mentioned how GDP per capita had tripled under AKP leadership something almost unheard of in such short period globally (in less than 1 generation) and was the number one OECD in economic growth.

So like them or not, the AKP have done amazing and we are seeing much of their hard work in the aviation sector - be it with THY, infrastructure, etc.

Yeah, sure   A friend's very close friend is in a fairly high position in the Turkish Statistical Institute and we got an impression of how these numbers are "calculated" - by directive from the government... As I tell, we will see if economy is on solid feet as propagated once the shiny facade is breaking down.
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Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:55 am

Sunday morning 6am, at International Transfers, there were close to 1000 people in front of me. Crazy!!!!!
I ended up clearing passport/customs and going upstairs and go through passport control to get back inside. Insane  
 
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Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:18 pm

Quoting Turkish350xwb (Reply 75):
Saying it is "invented" by AKP is not right, benefits are showing within their term.

While this is not a political discussion, one cannot in good conscience ignore the hard work and foresight of people like long time transport minister Binali Yıldırım.
He certainly did not receive a ready 20-year road map from anyone, he very much drove many of the changes we have seen in ground/rail and air transport in Turkey himself. He made radical changes to previous government policy, everything from opening and deregulating domestic airline sector, abolishment of ticket taxes, major focus on transport infrastructure projects, successive rounds of TK privatization, opening ties with foreign nations and liberal air service agreements etc.

Quoting TK787 (Reply 80):
Sunday morning 6am, at International Transfers, there were close to 1000 people in front of me. Crazy!!!!!
I ended up clearing passport/customs and going upstairs and go through passport control to get back inside. Insane

I don't recall if we have discussed it here, but TK is extending its flight banks at IST to spread the activity further.
For example now starting at 4AM there is a growingly large international arrival bank. Before this used to be closer to 530-6AM.
Also the last departure bank at night now runs almost till 2AM, so airport is basically almost a nonstop 24/7 operation. They even have a few random 3AM flights to places like Najaf, Basra, Baghdad.
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Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:09 pm

Seems security will be stepped up in Istanbul and IST and other airports.

Thank god they foiled it.


Turkey says it foiled Istanbul plot on same day as Paris attacks

Antalya (Turkey) (AFP) - Turkish authorities foiled a plot to stage a "major" attack in Istanbul on the same day as the deadly gun and suicide attacks in Paris, a senior official said on Sunday.

http://news.yahoo.com/turkey-foiled-...plot-same-day-paris-182410034.html
 
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Tue Nov 17, 2015 4:57 pm

I see with MAS out of the IST market, TK will further increase KUL from 10 to 14x weekly using A333 eff May 2016.

Also TK released its October traffic stats and is well on its way to break 60mil enplanements in 2015. 10-month boardings so far total 51.9mil growth of 12.1% from 2014.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:18 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 83):

Is there a possible tag on this route to KUL? The aircraft is on ground nearly 7 hours? DPS or HKT?

[Edited 2015-11-17 13:26:45]
 
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Wed Nov 18, 2015 12:59 am

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 84):

I like the idea of HKT. There's clearly a market with QR 11 weekly & daily with EY & EK.
 
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Wed Nov 18, 2015 4:16 am

Quoting Yakamoz (Reply 84):
Is there a possible tag on this route to KUL?

The new flight TK062/063 is on the ground in KUL for just 90 minutes, so no chance for a tag there. I don't know in how far TK would still be interested to tag an addition to the established TK060/061. With CGK now delinked from SIN and SGN apparently next in line for a terminator, it seems as if TK is moving away from the tag ons.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:38 am

Final report of the KTM accident is out:

http://www.tourism.gov.np/uploaded//...AIRLINE-Final-Report-finalcopy.pdf

In summary:

"The probable cause of this accident is the decision of the flight crew to continue
approach and landing below the minima with inadequate visual reference and not to
perform a missed approach in accordance to the published approach procedure."

In addition,

the damages to the aircraft seem to be quite severe!

[Edited 2015-11-18 01:39:34]
 
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Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:13 pm

In the news, it is stated that TK plans to grow another 20% in 2016 which is very ambitious if you ask me considering the situation at IST . As you may remember, TK also planned 20% growth for 2015 but later it was revised to 12% which is still a success.
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Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:58 pm

Well TK has 43 airplanes for delivery in 2016 per its investor update.

Also for growth, earlier this year did they not announce they will grow SAW based fleet to 100 frames? So they dont need to put or grow IST much as they have big opportunity on other side of city to pursue.
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Fri Nov 20, 2015 7:02 pm

All TK personell were freed from the hostage situation in the Radisson Blu hotel in Bamako, Mali.

Apparently the assailants set free hostages who could recite verses from the Quran. But I'm not sure if the TK personell were set free or rescued by the police.

http://m.hurriyet.com.tr/malideki-ot...-personelleri-kurtarildi-40016710.
 
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Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:12 pm

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 89):

I'm very interested in the 6 more aircraft Ilker Ayci mentioned. He talks about 49 aircraft next year.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:17 pm

When will TK announce a decision on the 787 or A350? I am hoping TK will split the order. Perhaps a mix of 787-9'S and 787-10'S for the 787'S and the A350-900'S and A350.1000'S for the A350'S.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:18 am

According to a new interview with the CEO of the new Istanbul airport project, TK is going to get a new longe of approx 10-11 thousand sqm. Is this really sufficient?

I mean they have sth around 5k atm at IST, but they are planning to grow much further at their new base and doubling the lounge will not be sufficient, I think.
 
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Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:17 pm

Guys until the new airport is built it will be hard for Turkish to expand too much. Sabiha itself is starting to have capacity issues.
 
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Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:23 pm

TK already is considering decentralizing its operation through small hub in ADB.
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Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:52 pm

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 93):

According to a new interview with the CEO of the new Istanbul airport project, TK is going to get a new longe of approx 10-11 thousand sqm. Is this really sufficient?
I mean they have sth around 5k atm at IST, but they are planning to grow much further at their new base and doubling the lounge will not be sufficient, I think.

From what I have seen TK will have multiple lounges at the new airport. For example they will also build one for transit economy passengers - a first in the world.
I'm sure what was mentioned in the article was for the initial first phase when the airport opens with 90mil capacity. I understand there will be additional lounges for example in the satellite terminal, and as additional phases are built in the other terminal buildings as well.

In additional all the alliances are looking at lounges. Skyteam already has a unified lounge at IST and both them and OW are looking at doing similar at the new airport.
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Mon Nov 23, 2015 4:18 pm

After so many million miles of flight, I still afraid of flying. But these 2 youngsters clime to the summit of Istanbul 3. Bridge secretly above the clouds, without any safety. Wooowww. Ok, perhaps it is not as difficult as crossing between summits of World Trade Center Towers on a rope, but still amazing.

http://webtv.hurriyet.com.tr/haber/u...de-olum-oyunu_122890?startVideo=16
The future is in the skies.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:52 pm

Quoting TK105 (Reply 97):

Crazy video !!! Thanks for posting.

Just got back again few days of travel and here is a few notes on TK on JFK-IST-WAW-IST-JFK;
-Some experiences are consistent but some wildly different. On the way from IST to WAW we had a Turkish and a French pilot up front, on the way back from WAW Turkish/Spanish duo commanded. Just can not understand why our pilot "Jose" insisted on speaking Turkish. His Turkish sounded as bad as the judge's accent on "The Midnight Express".
-Both WAW flights were FULL and on older A321s (7-8 yrs old) with 3-3 seats up front in J with the middle seat blocked. For the second time in 5 months I was upgraded to J during boarding on TK. Totally unexpected and I could get used to it. On a 2.5 hrs flight I had to choose between veal, chicken or pasta main courses. The appetizers were great and the flying Chef always addressed me with my name and kept the champagne coming.
-Contrary to my recent experiences, IST was calm both Sunday and Monday. No lines, the TK lounge was NOT densely populated. Great experience. I wonder if I got lucky with the times of the day, but what a difference compared to my arriving flight and transfer experience a week earlier.
-How about this takeoff/landing combo; Yesterday TK 11 used 17R for takeoff, and the landings were being done on 5.
It was strange to wait for a plane to land on 5, before a plane can take off on 17. The winds were calm, weather nice. What could be the reason? Thanks.
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:03 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 98):

I got upgraded at the gate as well. I am a Gold Star Alliance member so I guess that helps. Regarding runway 17, IST prefers 35 because when planes take off from 17 they interfere with landings on 5 due to spacing. Must have been a wind issue as IST takeoffs from 17 make the traffic situation at IST even worse than it usually is!
 
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RE: Turkish Aviation November 2015

Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:16 pm

Quoting ahmetdouas (Reply 99):

Same here, TK Elite Plus (Star Gold). Helps.
About the runways, like I said there was not wind/weather issue. Perfect flying weather, why do this combo??

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