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Re: Comac C919 Production And Delivery Thread

Mon Aug 07, 2017 9:40 pm

They look like they are ready to break out in a Gangnam Style dance routine.

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That is a cool looking cockpit.
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Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:44 am

Hey Everyone

Its now been about 4 months since the maiden flight of the C919. How is the test programme coming along? Didnt find any news online. Super excited to fly this bird once its in commercial service!
 
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Re: Comac C919 Production And Delivery Thread

Tue Sep 19, 2017 9:19 am

Second Comac C919 Flight Imminent, Five Months After First Flight:

The Comac C919 will probably make its second test flight in October, five months after it first flew. The program has had many issues since the May 5 first flight, says Comac Chief Designer Wu Guanghui. None of these has been the result of some fault on Comac’s part, Wu says, declining to give details. Meanwhile, ground tests are underway on the second of the six flight-test aircraft.


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Thu Sep 28, 2017 8:07 am

Second flight has been performed.

The Comac C919 narrowbody airliner has completed its long-awaited second flight, with a two-and-a half-hour sortie from Shanghai's Pudong International airport.

Aircraft B-001A's second sortie comes nearly five months after its highly publicised first flight on 5 May.

Flight tracking sites show that it took off at 07:23 and landed at 10:09 local time, flying to the north of Shanghai, where it conducted several orbits over China's coast. It maintained a constant altitude around 10,000ft througout the mission.


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Re: Comac C919 Production And Delivery Thread

Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:04 pm

Comac release a photo of the C919 control room:

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Thu Sep 28, 2017 10:08 pm

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Comac release a photo of the C919 control room:

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Sheesh, looking like mission control for the space program.
 
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KarelXWB wrote:
Comac release a photo of the C919 control room:

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Sheesh, looking like mission control for the space program.

Missing screens.
1. Where is the top down view of controlled airspace?
2. Where is the stylized path showing the aircraft moving through test waypounts?
3. Where is the health and status screen?
4. Where is the 9 screen display of primary flight cameras?
5. Where is the real time mirrored avionics screen?
6. Where is the software mode screen?

For a 2nd flight, you might have six control rooms coordinating each with 20 to 50 engineers. One for the engines, the team could remain in the USA and France to monitor the LEAP engines. Another in the USA monitoring avionics.

Not to mention the wing & thermal group.


This looks like the 1990s control rooms that tested an aircraft and didn't know how costly an inefficient doing test points is. I'm glad I work for an Aerospace company that tests systems.

Oh...NASA still does test points...

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Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:33 am

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This looks like the 1990s control rooms


Except for the LCD monitors :chat:
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Re: Comac C919 Production And Delivery Thread

Fri Oct 06, 2017 11:14 am

The second C919 prototype has moved to paint.

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Re: Comac C919 Production And Delivery Thread

Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:31 pm

Last week the 3rd flight was delayed due to bad weather:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china ... SKBN1CH0GS

Yet there is still no sign of a 3rd flight. Has the weather not yet improved by now?
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Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:19 pm

I guess the EIS was 2019, wasn't it?
 
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Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:27 pm

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Last week the 3rd flight was delayed due to bad weather:

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china ... SKBN1CH0GS

Yet there is still no sign of a 3rd flight. Has the weather not yet improved by now?

Yea... It is progressing like ARJ-21 flight testing.

Does anyone have a link to the ARJ-21 flight test timeline?


And the weather will be as the party says. ;)
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Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:36 am

C919 finally made its 3rd flight.

Aircraft B-001A took off from Shanghai Pudong International airport at 07:38 local time. Comac tells FlightGlobal the aircraft completed 48 test points including the retraction and extension of its landing gear, banking turns, and tests of its longitudinal and transverse stability.

The narrowbody flew for 3h 45min, largely over Nantong city in the Jiangsu province and reached a maximum altitude of 3,000m.


There was also an initial engine run on the 2nd aircraft. First flight is planned before the end of the year.

The Chinese airframer adds that it also successfully powered-up the CFM International Leap-1C engines on its second flight test aircraft.

The jet will next conduct on-aircraft tests to ensure the functions of its various systems, in preparation for taxi tests and a first flight. The target is for the aircraft to fly by the end of the year.


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Fri Nov 03, 2017 8:57 am

And here is the 2nd C919, with the first C919 in the background:

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Re: Comac C919 Production And Delivery Thread

Sat Nov 11, 2017 2:45 pm

C919 jet completes first long-distance flight:

The Commercial Aircraft Corp of China Ltd (COMAC) said in a statement the C919 flew for 2 hours and 23 minutes from Shanghai to the central Chinese city of Xi‘an, traveling more than 1,300 km (800 miles) and reaching an altitude of 7,800 meters (25,590 feet).


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Re: Comac C919 Production And Delivery Thread

Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:33 pm

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C919 jet completes first long-distance flight:

The Commercial Aircraft Corp of China Ltd (COMAC) said in a statement the C919 flew for 2 hours and 23 minutes from Shanghai to the central Chinese city of Xi‘an, traveling more than 1,300 km (800 miles) and reaching an altitude of 7,800 meters (25,590 feet).


http://www.reuters.com/article/us-china ... SKBN1DA0N4


Is such a long time between the tests usual?
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Re: Comac C919 Production And Delivery Thread

Sat Nov 11, 2017 7:32 pm

Is such a long time between the tests usual?


Flight activity picked up recently though. B-001A has been in the air on 03NOV, 05NOV and 08NOV locally at PVG before the aircraft performed the flight to it´s new base on 10NOV.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/b-001a#f7c0ce0
 
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Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:28 am

First flight test from Yanliang:

COMAC C919 just completed the first test flight after it relocated to Yanliang, China. A speical team from AVIC (Aviation Industry Corporation of China) is leading the test flight.


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Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:28 pm

The second C919 prototype has completed low-speed taxi tests.

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Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:14 pm

First flight of the second aircraft is scheduled for December 15.

See https://twitter.com/COMACAmerica/status ... 4216677376
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Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:48 pm

What is the cargo ability of the C919? I saw a picture where the underbelly didn't look that big. Well big enough for modern cargo handling processes. So I am curious.

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Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:04 am

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First flight of the second aircraft is scheduled for December 15.

See https://twitter.com/COMACAmerica/status ... 4216677376

https://twitter.com/COMACAmerica/status ... 0791493632 delayed
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What is the cargo ability of the C919? I saw a picture where the underbelly didn't look that big. Well big enough for modern cargo handling processes. So I am curious. '

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A quick search came up wirh 7pcs akh containers aka ld3-45. this is exactly that the a320 takes and would most likely be destributed 3 forward and 4 aft. And maybe the 1st aft position can be fitted with an extra fuel tank, which would make sense.

If you are used to dc-9-80s and 737-800/900 or even 757-300s, the belly space of modern airliners such as the ms21, a320 or c919 may be small. In reality they are more than enaugh. There is hardly any time in daily ops to load a bulk plane to it's full volumetric capacity, so the lower deck don't need to be big. Better use it for fuel and avionics.
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Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:21 am

Second a/c performed its first flight.

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Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:56 am

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Second a/c performed its first flight.

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Nice to see things picking up! She is a fine looking aircraft.
 
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Nice to see things picking up! She is a fine looking aircraft.


Yup. Similar in a way like 787 ( in relation to the A350 ).

Looks quite a bit stubbier than an A320. Why is that?
The slight increase in fuse diameter shouldn't do that, right?
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ACA345YYZ wrote:
Nice to see things picking up! She is a fine looking aircraft.


Yup. Similar in a way like 787 ( in relation to the A350 ).

Looks quite a bit stubbier than an A320. Why is that?
The slight increase in fuse diameter shouldn't do that, right?


It should be a smaller aircraft. The 1-class capacity is listed as only 168 pax, which is in between the A320 and A319. The nose is also notably shorter and more blunt.
 
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WIederling wrote:
ACA345YYZ wrote:
Nice to see things picking up! She is a fine looking aircraft.


Yup. Similar in a way like 787 ( in relation to the A350 ).

Looks quite a bit stubbier than an A320. Why is that?
The slight increase in fuse diameter shouldn't do that, right?


It should be a smaller aircraft. The 1-class capacity is listed as only 168 pax, which is in between the A320 and A319. The nose is also notably shorter and more blunt.

I'm not getting the C919 optimization. (I do get the MC-21s...).
Empty weight 42,100 kg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comac_C919#Specifications
A319NEO empty weight, err... I couldn't find a published # I believed

Well... we have the A321NEO at 50,800kg. Since the A321CEO is 7.7t higher..., A319NEO 43.1T and A320NEO 54.9
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A3 ... ifications
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A3 ... ifications

This implies a slight weight advantage if promise weight is kept.
But why the shortie? If anything, the C919 should have been built just a little longer than the A320NEO as the base and then an A321 competitor. Eh...

But COMAC must do far better than the ARJ-21, or the earlier MA-60, or Shanghai Y-10. This isn't China's first large airliner. Heck, look at all the military aircraft China builds! So why did the ARJ-21 fail so miserably when it was such a low risk project?

I'm still waiting for a western certification of the C919. What is the plan? When? Who? I see rumors of EASA certification, but I haven't heard timelines, a program office being setup, or anything more than they are looking into the possibility. I'm aware of one EASA tour of the factory, but that didn't seem to be engineers to verify, but executives to discuss a contract to start the process... Has anything more material happened? Yes, I'm aware the LEAP-1C has FAA and EASA certification. :yawn: Since it is a LEAP-1A with a new nacelle and externals, that wasn't a high cost nor high risk certification.

Let us look at the same company's ARJ-21, 15 years into the project and still not in normal service (seriously, 3 aircraft for 4 flights per day on a size/mission that should be 6 flights per day per aircraft?!?).
COMAC's forced technology sharing initiative means that companies withhold their more competitive products. The bidders know that the technology shall be copied as has happened with so many products produced in China (see link on concerns). So the C919 isn't getting the latest. That makes the NEO/MAX much more competitive than they should be. (I'm much more impressed with the MC-21).
https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardabo ... a7ea42195f
A bit on the MC-21: https://leehamnews.com/2016/02/08/irkut ... -analysis/

One doesn't append a certification easily. The test programs are designed to meet FAA or EASA requirements. (or Russian, whose system of requirements has been upgraded to my satisfaction and their cold weather requirements are 2nd to none).

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Sun Dec 17, 2017 4:21 pm

It is 38.9m long apparently. Which is right in the middle of the A320 and 737-8. The 168 configuration is a spacious 32" IMU. Probably even a galley behind the front doors. If we compare it to easy jet's latest A320 (186 pax and space flex), it should be 180-186 with 2 lavs in front of doors 2. In a more traditional 2 class configuration 16 - 150 = 166 shouldn't be a problem. That's one row less than AA new 737-8MAX at 172.
If there is ever a stretch they should IMO go one row more than the A321, as well (45.5-46m). a more comfy all eco 240 and 4FA max 200 in 2 class.
 
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This implies a slight weight advantage if promise weight is kept.
But why the shortie? If anything, the C919 should have been built just a little longer than the A320NEO as the base and then an A321 competitor. Eh...


I was mistaken about the actual length, as mat66 notes it is actually slightly longer than an A320. As for the longer variant, I assume they just haven't gotten round to doing it yet, which makes sense for a completely new project. The A320 started out with one family member too. It will allow them to focus completely on ironing out all the kinks and delivering a working aircraft, rather than wasting precious resources on upcoming stretch models. COMAC has secured orders and options for almost 800 C919s, more than enough to establish the type in production and service. I believe that quite soon after EIS, COMAC will launch (relaunch?) the C919 in an updated version with an A321 sized stretch to compliment it, that will also be aimed at western operators. There was something recently about a western manufacturer showing interest in partnering with COMAC to do this, Bombardier maybe?


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I'm still waiting for a western certification of the C919. What is the plan? When? Who? I see rumors of EASA certification, but I haven't heard timelines, a program office being setup, or anything more than they are looking into the possibility. I'm aware of one EASA tour of the factory, but that didn't seem to be engineers to verify, but executives to discuss a contract to start the process... Has anything more material happened? Yes, I'm aware the LEAP-1C has FAA and EASA certification. :yawn: Since it is a LEAP-1A with a new nacelle and externals, that wasn't a high cost nor high risk certification.


It's more than just rumours:

http://aviationweek.com/awincommercial/ ... tification
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... pu-437781/
https://www.shine.cn/archive/business/t ... aily.shtml


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So the C919 isn't getting the latest. That makes the NEO/MAX much more competitive than they should be. (I'm much more impressed with the MC-21).


I'm not too impressed by the C919 myself, but honestly, the "not getting the latest [technology]" and "copy of the NEO/MAX" mantras are so tired. China produces some of the worlds best aircraft designers, and the past decisions to copy were deliberate political decisions to save resources. In most cases, Chinese manufacturers put up home-grown competing designs that ultimately failed due to the amount of resources that had to be investing in them, versus just continuing the development of Soviet designs.
And lets not forget that the A320 is a 30 year old design, and the 737 is 50 years old. They are not "latest technology", and even though they have been upgraded through time, they are still full of compromises related to the age of the designs. A clean sheet C919 doesn't have to use the latest technology in order to match those two.
 
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This implies a slight weight advantage if promise weight is kept.
But why the shortie? If anything, the C919 should have been built just a little longer than the A320NEO as the base and then an A321 competitor. Eh...


I was mistaken about the actual length, as mat66 notes it is actually slightly longer than an A320. As for the longer variant, I assume they just haven't gotten round to doing it yet, which makes sense for a completely new project. The A320 started out with one family member too. It will allow them to focus completely on ironing out all the kinks and delivering a working aircraft, rather than wasting precious resources on upcoming stretch models. COMAC has secured orders and options for almost 800 C919s, more than enough to establish the type in production and service. I believe that quite soon after EIS, COMAC will launch (relaunch?) the C919 in an updated version with an A321 sized stretch to compliment it, that will also be aimed at western operators. There was something recently about a western manufacturer showing interest in partnering with COMAC to do this, Bombardier maybe?


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I'm still waiting for a western certification of the C919. What is the plan? When? Who? I see rumors of EASA certification, but I haven't heard timelines, a program office being setup, or anything more than they are looking into the possibility. I'm aware of one EASA tour of the factory, but that didn't seem to be engineers to verify, but executives to discuss a contract to start the process... Has anything more material happened? Yes, I'm aware the LEAP-1C has FAA and EASA certification. :yawn: Since it is a LEAP-1A with a new nacelle and externals, that wasn't a high cost nor high risk certification.


It's more than just rumours:

http://aviationweek.com/awincommercial/ ... tification
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... pu-437781/
https://www.shine.cn/archive/business/t ... aily.shtml


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So the C919 isn't getting the latest. That makes the NEO/MAX much more competitive than they should be. (I'm much more impressed with the MC-21).


I'm not too impressed by the C919 myself, but honestly, the "not getting the latest [technology]" and "copy of the NEO/MAX" mantras are so tired. China produces some of the worlds best aircraft designers, and the past decisions to copy were deliberate political decisions to save resources. In most cases, Chinese manufacturers put up home-grown competing designs that ultimately failed due to the amount of resources that had to be investing in them, versus just continuing the development of Soviet designs.
And lets not forget that the A320 is a 30 year old design, and the 737 is 50 years old. They are not "latest technology", and even though they have been upgraded through time, they are still full of compromises related to the age of the designs. A clean sheet C919 doesn't have to use the latest technology in order to match those two.

I've read those articles. Until EASA announces engineers in China, it is rumors and PR. China isn't yet allowing insight into early testing. They did the same thing to the FAA on the ARJ-21.

The NEO is an old design. In production with an established supply chain. The MAX is the same. Matching existing product means competing on price. Do you really believe the C919 will match the in service reliability at EIS? Within 2 years of EIS? 5 years? When do you expect EIS? I'm seeing delays similar to the ARJ-21,albeit not as bad. Don't you think the mandated technology sharing might inhibit PIPs? (Other than engines).

When is the first PIP scheduled? For the NEO, We know Pratt will PIP. The SHARP PIP. Weight reduction PIPs. Maintenance reduction PIPs. Boeing has a history of PIPs too. Recall NG fuel burn dropped 10% in the first decade.

It is already too late for timely C919 PIPs to start engineering. There is a 5 year lag between start of a major PIP and Please point me to the PIPs. I know about MC-21 PIPs. That plane is lighter thanks to CFRP.

If you are going to compete in the big leagues, step up. The NEO and MAX will be superior planes(compared to today) by C919 EIS.
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How do we know this ? And "designer" is vague, what you need are engineers and managers, and a company with the right culture for these people to thrive.
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In other news, here's the old Y-10 being moved a short while ago:

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Flugzeug Y-10 wird in Shanghai ausgestellt. Ein Prototyp der Shanghai Y-10, Chinas erstes heimisches Passagierflugzeug, wird auf einem Lastwagen transportiert, um in Shanghai ausgestellt zu werden (Foto vom 26. Dezember 2017). Bei der Y-10 handelt es sich um ein viermotoriges Schmalrumpf-Flugzeug, das in den 1970er Jahren vom Shanghai Aircraft Research Institute entwickelt wurde. Es machte 1980 erfolgreich seinen Jungfernflug, doch das Programm wurde 1986 eingestellt.

Google translate: Aircraft Y-10 will be exhibited in Shanghai. A prototype of the Shanghai Y-10, China's first domestic passenger airliner, is being transported on a truck to be exhibited in Shanghai (photo taken on December 26, 2017). The Y-10 is a four-engine, narrow-body aircraft developed by the Shanghai Aircraft Research Institute in the 1970s. It successfully made its maiden flight in 1980, but the program was discontinued in 1986.

Note: I feel its not worth opening a new thread for this little news, so please bear with this one-time hijack......

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Clearly someone omitted the NO STEP markings, sigh...
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Clearly someone omitted the NO STEP markings, sigh...

That is the tail fin (the guy is standing on the rudder). Would be odd to have no step markings there.
 
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Mon Jan 01, 2018 2:43 pm

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Clearly someone omitted the NO STEP markings, sigh...

Rules are meant to be broken?
When I was in maintenance of A-4 Skyhawks a million years ago, our crew did regularly flout these signs.
But no, we wouldn't step on moving surfaces. We know what we were doing and stepped only on areas we were sure were robust enough.
Also, POS and newbies were emphatically discouraged from that practice.

To address your question, maybe since the old girl won't be taking off ever again, the sign was deemed moot?

Edit: Ok, just noticed that Polot got the right answer.
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Revelation wrote:
Clearly someone omitted the NO STEP markings, sigh...

I appreciate your attempt at humor,

But on a serious note.
1) Is this the prototype that flew, or one of the one's that never did?

2) Either way, it isn't going to fly again, so the only concern here is for the operator's safety, not for the aircraft itself.
So it's pleasing to note your concern for Brother Lee's safety.

3) Perhaps this is the underside of the wing, in which case the only markings would be "MIND YOUR HEAD"

or, bear with me now,

4) Or maybe, just maybe.... it's the vertical stabiliser.
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Edit: Ok, I also just noticed that Polot got the right answer, and is quicker than me at typing. :cry:
Nothing to see here; move along please.
 
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Re: Comac C919 Production And Delivery Thread

Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:05 pm

Flight testing is progressing really slow on the two prototypes:

News from Singapore suggests that the C919 might be delayed again. Tracking, using Flightradar24, of the flight test aircraft show that B-001A last had activity on December 19 and there is nothing on B-001C. The second C919, B-001C had its first flight of 2018 on January 14th. The aircraft took off from Shanghai Pudong International Airport at 7:38 a.m. and landed at 10:33 after a flight of two hours and 55 minutes. A Bloomberg article points out that this flight test program is much slower than Western programs and even slower than one might have expected from an aircraft from COMAC.


Ref https://www.airinsight.com/c919-delayed-again/

Few weeks ago Comac stated that systems will be upgraded during 2018, so that could explain the downtime.
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Flight testing is progressing really slow on the two prototypes:

News from Singapore suggests that the C919 might be delayed again. Tracking, using Flightradar24, of the flight test aircraft show that B-001A last had activity on December 19 and there is nothing on B-001C. The second C919, B-001C had its first flight of 2018 on January 14th. The aircraft took off from Shanghai Pudong International Airport at 7:38 a.m. and landed at 10:33 after a flight of two hours and 55 minutes. A Bloomberg article points out that this flight test program is much slower than Western programs and even slower than one might have expected from an aircraft from COMAC.


Ref https://www.airinsight.com/c919-delayed-again/

Few weeks ago Comac stated that systems will be upgraded during 2018, so that could explain the downtime.

Either that, or Chinese New Year! Lots of things shut down for many days around then.

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Either that, or Chinese New Year! Lots of things shut down for many days around then.


Interesting definition. The first aircraft hasn't flow for more than 2 months. Are you suggesting that flight testings shuts down 2 months prior to the Chinese New Year?
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Note: I feel its not worth opening a new thread for this little news, so please bear with this one-time hijack......

Thank you so much for this „one-time hijack“! I always tried to visit this prototype but it seemed to be impossible because it was stored on AVIC‘s factory or similar. Do you know where it is now? Do you have a link or similar?

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Chinese New Year! Lots of things shut down for many days around then.

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Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:06 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
Revelation wrote:
Either that, or Chinese New Year! Lots of things shut down for many days around then.


Interesting definition. The first aircraft hasn't flow for more than 2 months. Are you suggesting that flight testings shuts down 2 months prior to the Chinese New Year?

The first 300 hours (approximate) ate such a pain. One prototype must finish basic flight envelope so that all prototypes may fly less restricted. I'm not talking about full envelope flight testing being completed, but a subset to allow other prototypes to help expand the envelope.

This is as if the C919 is restarting!

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During the flight test campaign of the C919 (upto EIS 2021-2022), Airbus and Boeing are looking to deliver a combined total of around 5000 narrowbodies . . .
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Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:23 pm

Comac confirms that the first aircraft has undergone some upgrades:

Since making its first x-country flight to Yanliang on Nov.10, the 1st #C919 has kept busy with rigorous flight tests, logging 35 hours 56 min over 13 test flights at its new home.

AC101 was also fitted with water weight tanks, a trailing cone, and other flight test equipment.


https://twitter.com/COMACAmerica/status ... 1782141952
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Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:16 am

Who will be the first operator of the C919?
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Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:57 am

COMAC chief designer pegs C919 delivery to 2021


http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engines/c ... ivery-2021

COMAC has confirmed that it expects the first 150-seat C919 to be delivered in 2021, verifying earlier indications from the Chinese manufacturer that there is another year’s delay.
 
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Who will be the first operator of the C919?


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