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Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Fri Nov 06, 2015 7:31 pm

Referring to the thread in February:

Finns Trying To Get The Oldest DC-9-10 In Service (by saleya22r Feb 4 2015 in Civil Aviation)

The flight is now planned on November 28 according to the Finnish Aviation Museum
The route:
Nairobi-Aswan-Venice-Helsinki

Tickets can be booked on http://www.traveller.fi/viimeinen-kuulutus-tumppiysi-takaisin-kotiin/

Trying to see if they have anything in English. Nairobi-Helsinki costs 2500 euros, Venice-Helsinki 1450, so the prices seem to be a bit stiff..
The plane would then be placed in the museum at HEL.
 
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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Fri Nov 06, 2015 8:46 pm

Ameristar still flies DC-9-15's in America.
 
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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:08 pm

That´s a very nice development! Thanks for sharing your research!
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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:10 pm

Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 1):
Ameristar still flies DC-9-15's in America.

Yes, but as suggested by the thread linked at the beginning, 5Y-XXA is the oldest DC-9-10 still in service. This coming December it will turn 50. That DC-9-14 was delivered to AC in February 1966 as CF-TLE.

Ameristar's oldest -15RC is still 17 months younger.
 
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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:14 pm

Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 1):
Ameristar still flies DC-9-15's in America

OK, thanks for the info. It's not mentioned on their Web site (http://www.ameristarjet.com/)though, only the MD83. It's a charter company right? Anyway, this particular DC-9-14 with c/n 19 flew first in December 1965, and was allegedly the oldest pax jet in regular revenue service in 2014, perhaps in 2015. Finns are interested as she flew as ON-LYD with AY between 1971-1983. The museum needs the funding, hence rather expensive tickets that do not include the fare to Nairobi or Venice.
 
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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:20 pm

Quoting saleya22r (Reply 4):
his particular DC-9-14 with c/n 19 flew first in December 1965, and was allegedly the oldest pax jet in regular revenue service in 2014, perhaps in 2015.

Perhaps the last in regular revenue service, but apparently l/n 17 still serves as VIP with USA Jet. Anyway, this is cool to see Baby 9 still around.

http://www.planespotters.net/airfram...DC-9/45718/N191US-USA-Jet-Airlines
 
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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:26 pm

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 5):
Perhaps the last in regular revenue service, but apparently l/n 17 still serves as VIP with USA Jet. Anyway, this is cool to see Baby 9 still around.

No idea where 191 is, but it's not in use, I can tell you that much (very likely it has been cut up). The oldest bird they actively use is L/N 186, N195US.

Other US operators of the baby 9 include Kalitta Charters II and Ameristar, C&M Airways and Skyway Enterprises. Additionally, I believe Aeronaves TSM is adding or has added a baby 9 to their fleet.

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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:31 pm

Quoting B747400ERF (Reply 1):
Ameristar still flies DC-9-15's in America.

But they're freighters, are they not?
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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:36 pm

Quoting DiamondFlyer (Reply 6):
Additionally, I believe Aeronaves TSM is adding or has added a baby 9 to their fleet.

Indeed, they recently took both ex-Evergreen baby 9s that were stored at MZJ.
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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:40 pm

I saw L/N 50 N8860 in COD this spring.

https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/McDonnell-Douglas/DC-9/45797/N8860-SCAIFE-Flight-Operations
 
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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Fri Nov 06, 2015 11:47 pm

Quoting Spacepope (Reply 8):
Indeed, they recently took both ex-Evergreen baby 9s that were stored at MZJ.

These were built as -15MC (Minimum Change) for Tree-Top Airlines aka Trans-Texas Airways  . See below for more:

http://aviationcentral.weebly.com/douglas-dc-9.html



[Edited 2015-11-06 15:52:04]
 
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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:11 am

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 3):
That DC-9-14 was delivered to AC in February 1966 as CF-TLE.

It was the 3rd delivered of AC's 6 original DC-9-14s which were acquired as a stopgap while waiting for the DC-9-32s. They went back to Douglas in 1968 after only about 2 years in AC service once the -32s began arriving. My first 2 flights on DC-9s were on those aircraft, YVR-YWG-YVR. Might have been the same aircraft both ways as it was a daytrip on a youth standby fare within the first couple of weeks of AC service, just to be able to fly on the DC-9. The inaugural AC DC-9 route was YVR-YWG-YUL and back the same way. The aircraft overnighted at YVR.

Can't find any photos of CF-TLE while with AC but this is CF-TLF at YYC on June 1, 1967:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kenfielding/5589392279/in/photostream/

AC ordered all their DC-9s without the optional rear ventrai airstairs.

CF-TLF in the YYC photo above spent the rest of its life with Texas International and then Continental when Texas International became part of CO. It crashed on takeoff at DEN on November 15, 1987, en route to BOI, with 28 fatalities of the 82 aboard. Blamed on inadequate de-icing and crew inexperience. The pilots, who were both among the fatalities, had very little time on the DC-9. Link to the NTSB report at the bottom of this summary:
http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=19871115-0

[Edited 2015-11-06 18:13:03]

[Edited 2015-11-06 18:13:41]
 
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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:49 am

The Finnish Aviation Museum has nothing about this English :http://ilmailumuseo.fi/en/ -nor the travel agent mentioned above although I'm sure they would be more than happy to serve the A.netters if needed!

Obviously the flight will only be flown if there's enough pax. My understanding is that the flight still needs the approval of the European Civil Aviation authorities. Hopefully it can be done, the other option is scrapping in Nairobi I guess.
It's just three weeks from now, so it might be difficult for many to to the travel arrangements but maybe there's been inside info a long time already..

According to planespotters.net, the airframe status of c/n 19 is now "stored"
 
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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:24 am

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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:56 am

Isn't #4 still active in Aftica?
 
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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:00 am

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 10):
These were built as -15MC (Minimum Change) for Tree-Top Airlines aka Trans-Texas Airways  . See below for more:

That's correct, but most (if not all) have been converted to DC-9-15F standard.

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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:20 am

Wasn't Delta supposed to fly the last of any DC-9/MD80/90, 717 series.  
 
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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:45 am

Quoting saleya22r (Reply 12):
According to planespotters.net, the airframe status of c/n 19 is now "stored"

I am not sure about that. I was told it is operating FlySAX flight to Mogadishu tomorrow.
 
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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:01 pm

Quoting rbavfan (Reply 16):
Wasn't Delta supposed to fly the last of any DC-9/MD80/90, 717 series.
Quoting rbavfan (Reply 16):
Wasn't Delta supposed to fly the last of any DC-9/MD80/90, 717 series.

well, who flies the last of the DC9 series is a long way off. It could very well be Delta as far as scheduled (significant) service is concerned. But the 717's ( AKA MD-95) could also very well end up as freighters, or VIP or whatever for years after Delta is done with them. I do not recall the exact date, but I would bet that DL has them plugged into the plan for at least 10-15 years...so you are looking at beyond 2030. That I think is a sure bet!
 
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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:16 pm

Quoting TZTriStar500 (Reply 13):
http://www.classicjettours.com/dc9.html

Thanks for the addition!

Quoting UA444 (Reply 14):

Isn't #4 still active in Aftica?

Planespotters says 5Y-XXB is stored, but maybe this not correct. Incidentally, also with AY between 1971-83 as OH-LYC

Quoting UK_Dispatcher (Reply 17):
I am not sure about that. I was told it is operating FlySAX flight to Mogadishu tomorrow.

OK, thanks for the info. Good to hear it's active!
 
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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Sat Nov 07, 2015 4:15 pm

Quoting saleya22r (Reply 19):
Planespotters says 5Y-XXB is stored, but maybe this not correct.

I shot 5Y-XXB in 2012 at NBO... it was certainly in storage at that time and not looking so great:

http://www.lockonaviation.net/html/showphoto.php?id=8882

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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:33 am

Quoting rbavfan (Reply 16):
Wasn't Delta supposed to fly the last of any DC-9/MD80/90, 717 series.  

What? Do you mean DL is about to buy 5Y-XXA after the upcoming flight?   
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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Fri Nov 20, 2015 6:37 pm

According to the Finnish Aviation Museum, the flight is not going to take place as planned next weekend. The current owner of the aircraft allegedly cancelled the meeting where the acquisition was supposed to be finalized. Maybe they get more if it is scrapped?
 
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RE: Last Flight For DC-9-14 (5Y-XXA) Now Planned

Fri Nov 20, 2015 8:55 pm

Can see it ending up rotting away in the grass.
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