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Thomson Flight Came Within 1,000ft Of Missile

Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:23 pm

Havent heard about this before..

Apparently this Thomson flight from Stansted (STN) had to take evasive action after the pilot spotted a missile within 1,000ft of the aircraft.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/uk-holiday-jet-came-within-1-000ft-missile-012401467.html#dSPT0fO

[Edited 2015-11-07 04:33:44]
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RE: Thomson Flight Came Within 1,000ft Of Missile

Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:41 pm

Just seen a flight radar recording of this flight, a bit vague other than showing a change in direction. The report says pretty much the same as the first post above...

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/watch-moment-british-jet-189-6786700

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RE: Thomson Flight Came Within 1,000ft Of Missile

Sat Nov 07, 2015 1:44 pm

If a missile was within 1000 feet of you, there is no maneuver an airliner can do to avoid it if it was coming towards you. If it was other than a model rocket, the speeds are usually mach 1 plus....


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RE: Thomson Flight Came Within 1,000ft Of Missile

Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:27 pm

There was an item about this on the BBC this am.

They said that the investigation concluded it was likely to be part of a military training exersize.

Not sure what is most alarming, the idea of the Egyptian military playing with their toys near an airport, or the word "likely".
 
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RE: Thomson Flight Came Within 1,000ft Of Missile

Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:34 pm

Quoting reltney (Reply 2):
If a missile was within 1000 feet of you, there is no maneuver an airliner can do to avoid it if it was coming towards you. If it was other than a model rocket, the speeds are usually mach 1 plus....

  

The news item clearly is dramatized. No evasive action was needed or could have done anything. But regardless, kudos to the Captain for keeping calm and carrying on with what he thought he could do  

From the article:
"A government spokesman said: " We investigated the reported incident at the time and concluded that it was not a targeted attack and was likely to be connected to routine exercises being conducted by the Egyptian military in the area at the time.""

Oh great ... that solves it then. The Egyptian military practicing live fire drills in the flightpath of Sharm al Sheikh ... the tourists must be relived that the military is stationed so close to protect them from the baddies!  
 
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RE: Thomson Flight Came Within 1,000ft Of Missile

Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:39 pm

Quoting ASA (Reply 4):
a government spokesman said: " We investigated the reported incident at the time and concluded that it was not a targeted attack and was likely to be connected to routine exercises being conducted by the Egyptian military in the area at the time.""

Sounds exactly what was originally thought to have happened to TWA 800 and the missle training exercises.
 
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RE: Thomson Flight Came Within 1,000ft Of Missile

Sat Nov 07, 2015 3:00 pm

Quoting reltney (Reply 2):
If a missile was within 1000 feet of you, there is no maneuver an airliner can do to avoid it if it was coming towards you. If it was other than a model rocket, the speeds are usually mach 1 plus....

I think thats understandable, this missile obviously wasnt trained on anything other than an irresponsible practice firing but the Captain wouldnt know that in his initial reactions.
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RE: Thomson Flight Came Within 1,000ft Of Missile

Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:48 pm

He could always do what they did to avoid missiles in "The Concorde... Airport '79" movie. Oh yeah, that still would have damaged the concords structure. I was some great visuals though.
 
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RE: Thomson Flight Came Within 1,000ft Of Missile

Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:15 pm

It'll be interesting to see how many tourists visit Sharm this winter compared to previous years. Even if, as the article states, this was just the Egyptian military and the plane wasn't in danger, I'd imagine a lot of people would prefer to stay home this winter just to be safe.
 
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RE: Thomson Flight Came Within 1,000ft Of Missile

Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:45 pm

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 3):
Not sure what is most alarming, the idea of the Egyptian military playing with their toys near an airport, or the word "likely".

I mean the Egyptian army blew up a convoy in the Sinai of Mexican tourists with Apache Helicopters just a couple of months ago. The Sinai is basically like Western Iraq. Only nominally governed.
 
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RE: Thomson Flight Came Within 1,000ft Of Missile

Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:24 am

Quoting N415XJ (Reply 8):
It'll be interesting to see how many tourists visit Sharm this winter compared to previous years. Even if, as the article states, this was just the Egyptian military and the plane wasn't in danger, I'd imagine a lot of people would prefer to stay home this winter just to be safe.

Tourist throughput for Egypt will be very low I am afraid. Very sad, I loved Egypt in 3 visits 2001 - 2005, but think I would keep away for now.

The whole of the MENA region will just take another blow I think.
 
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RE: Thomson Flight Came Within 1,000ft Of Missile

Sun Nov 08, 2015 1:36 am

I can't believe a western airline pilot witnessing a missile in the area would go unreported (publicly at least) for this long
 
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RE: Thomson Flight Came Within 1,000ft Of Missile

Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:57 am

Quoting smokeybandit (Reply 11):
I can't believe a western airline pilot witnessing a missile in the area would go unreported (publicly at least) for this long

I can believe that we only heard about this publicly because of the Metrojet A321  
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RE: Thomson Flight Came Within 1,000ft Of Missile

Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:21 am

Quoting solarflyer22 (Reply 9):

I mean the Egyptian army blew up a convoy in the Sinai of Mexican tourists with Apache Helicopters just a couple of months ago. The Sinai is basically like Western Iraq. Only nominally governed.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...-egyptian-airstrikes-desert-convoy

Their wider group of 22 people had parked on Sunday for a barbecue near the Bahariya oasis, a tourist site in the western desert, when army aircraft began shelling them believing they were militants, security sources and survivors have said.
 
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RE: Thomson Flight Came Within 1,000ft Of Missile

Sun Nov 08, 2015 7:28 am

[quote=777Jet,reply=12]I can believe that we only heard about this publicly because of the Metrojet A321
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I agree, plus its amazing that no passengers saw or reported anything.
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RE: Thomson Flight Came Within 1,000ft Of Missile

Sun Nov 08, 2015 3:24 pm

Quoting rbavfan (Reply 7):

Best part was firing the flare out the window. I need to try that.
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RE: Thomson Flight Came Within 1,000ft Of Missile

Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:22 pm

Quoting smokeybandit (Reply 11):
I can't believe a western airline pilot witnessing a missile in the area would go unreported (publicly at least) for this long

I personally believe that there was some creative reporting in this story, and that the reality wasnt as exciting as the media have made out.
 
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RE: Thomson Flight Came Within 1,000ft Of Missile

Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:25 pm

Quoting EMAman (Reply 16):

I personally believe that there was some creative reporting in this story, and that the reality wasnt as exciting as the media have made out.

Next we are going to hear this:

'Airplane came within 500ft of airport building - passengers terrified'      
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