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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:12 am

Quoting ANA787 (Reply 148):
Is this the end of the announcements? I expected a little more than a seasonal addition.

I wouldn't get too down. It's still January after all, and I think the brand re-launch party for PDX was today, so that's probably where it was announced. Surely there is more up their sleeve. They have do something with the ERJ-175's, and there's only so much room in Seattle. Not much they can do with them in Anchorage. They could theoretically do some expansion out of LAX and/or SAN. Alaska did say last summer that they intend to strengthen and build-up the LAX "hub."

PDX is in for more growth. Don't hang your head just yet little buddy.
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:24 am

Quoting ANA787 (Reply 148):
Is this the end of the announcements? I expected a little more than a seasonal addition.

From what I have been told, No, there is some more of connecting the dots coming, as for new markets, I am not privy to another destination being added from PDX, I've heard a pretty obvious market is being announced from SEA soon. IND is my guess.

Quoting lhpdx (Reply 149):
Does AS plans to increase frequencies on existing routes out of PDX?

AS is strengthening its position on the West Coast & Portland is really in their plans for being the reliever hub just down the road from SEA, a very wise & smart move on their part. AS realized a long time ago Portland won't be the largest, but certainly a very dynamic market in the long run.
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Thu Jan 28, 2016 1:30 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 151):
AS is strengthening its position on the West Coast & Portland is really in their plans for being the reliever hub just down the road from SEA, a very wise & smart move on their part. AS realized a long time ago Portland won't be the largest, but certainly a very dynamic market in the long run.

Strategically it makes the most sense, especially with the frequent shuttle between the two hubs. It gives people more options quickly. They're smart to make the investment now.
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:11 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 151):
From what I have been told, No, there is some more of connecting the dots coming, as for new markets, I am not privy to another destination being added from PDX, I've heard a pretty obvious market is being announced from SEA soon. IND is my guess.

What about PDX-DEN? That seems to be a pretty glaring omission in the network, especially if AS is already starting nearby markets like PDX-OMA.
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:18 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 151):
I've heard a pretty obvious market is being announced from SEA soon. IND is my guess.

I'd have to think IND would be on the short list along with PIT and CLE.

While not an obvious add I'd love to see FAR.
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Thu Jan 28, 2016 2:37 am

Quoting intotheair (Reply 153):
What about PDX-DEN? That seems to be a pretty glaring omission in the network, especially if AS is already starting nearby markets like PDX-OMA.

PDX-OMA they can command a premium for being the only non-stop carrier, where PDX-DEN they will compete with 3 other carriers, F9, UA & WN.That frame is likely making more money for AS flying to OMA, than it would to DEN.

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 154):
I'd have to think IND would be on the short list along with PIT and CLE

I agree with you as well, these must be on the short list for AS, I have hopes for a PDX to Florida non-stop as well for the S16/17 time frame, just my two cents.

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 154):

While not an obvious add I'd love to see FAR

I have wondered how long it would take AAG to start some flying to the Dakotas, A bit far for Q-400's, but E-175's would work, if there is that much of demand in the market.
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Sat Jan 30, 2016 8:57 am

So does anyone have any idea what gate SY will be using this summer? I'm guessing something on C?
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Sun Jan 31, 2016 12:14 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 156):
So does anyone have any idea what gate SY will be using this summer? I'm guessing something on C?

DL's ticket counter handled them when they flew to IFP. SIgnage at PDX was horrible! I'd guess that with 5 flights a week they'd have their own staff this time around? Don't know what gate. It's a hard call! Hope they get their own ticket counter. Speaking of DL, they have a new fare sale: $49 to SEA and $59 to LAX! Been a looooong time since SEA was that cheap. It's no $19 (from the 80's), but hey, better than the current $79 if bought in advance. Plus starting 04APR their 600A flight to SEA is a 738! Hmmmmm. Who else has a morning jet to SEA?? Purchase by 11FEB, travel 25FEB-30APR. Spring break blackouts apply. The 717 starts PDX-SEA too, but the schedules aren't very consistent. On 07MAY there's ONE 717 and TWO 738's to SEA!
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:32 am

Quoting pdx (Reply 157):
Speaking of DL, they have a new fare sale: $49 to SEA and $59 to LAX! Been a looooong time since SEA was that cheap. It's no $19 (from the 80's), but hey, better than the current $79 if bought in advance. Plus starting 04APR their 600A flight to SEA is a 738!

That is the first time in a loooonngg time, as you said, since SEA was that low & jets to boot. I'd take the $59 to LAX on the 717 & drive out to somewhere along the coast from Newport Beach to San Diego somewhere & stay for 3 nights or so. At least one day in May I was checking for a St Louis trip I'm taking & the 7:00am AS jet to SEA was a 739 vs the 738, so far AS is going to run just one mainline jet a day this summer vs the 4 mainline jets they had last year.

Quoting pdx (Reply 157):
The 717 starts PDX-SEA too, but the schedules aren't very consistent. On 07MAY there's ONE 717 and TWO 738's to SEA!

I think PDX-SEA may see several different types over the years, it's a great way to get a plane from a hub to an important city in their network, 763's 757's aren't out of the question, but more likely 320's, 738's, 739's & 717's mainline & E-175's by OO.
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Sun Jan 31, 2016 10:48 pm

Some interesting changes for Oregon in this weeks OAG thread:

*AS PDX-ATL JUN 0>0.9 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.9 - Re-newed non-stop, albeit seasonally
*AS PDX-LAX JUN 9>8 JUL 9>8 AUG 9>8 - As was suggested in the OAG thread is this AS making room for AA?
AS PDX-YVR SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0 - Is this a fading market for AS or just AC taking market share? Is there room for WS?
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G4 AZA-EUG AUG 0.4>0.3 SEP 0.4>0.3 OCT 0.4>0.3
G4 EUG-LAS JUL 0.6>0.3 AUG 0.5>0.3 SEP 0.6>0.3 OCT 0.6>0.3

SY MSP-PDX JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7 - New Service & the return of SY.

*UA SFO-EUG JUN 7>5 JUL 7>4 AUG 7>4 SEP 7>4 OCT 7>4 - UA going 3 x mainline & 1 CR7

VX PDX-SFO MAY 2>3 JUN 1.9>3 JUL 1.8>3 AUG 1.9>3 SEP 1.9>3 OCT 1.8>3 - nice increase, since they were 1 daily last year
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Sun Jan 31, 2016 11:46 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 159):
AS PDX-YVR SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0 - Is this a fading market for AS or just AC taking market share? Is there room for WS?

I believe AC is taking all the market share. AC just recently went daily year round PDX-YYC(2x daily in spring/summer/fall) and AC is bringing back seasonal daily PDX-PDX-YYC/YVR on WS Encore. The PDX-YVR/YYC-LGW connection would be particularly attractive.

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 159):
VX PDX-SFO MAY 2>3 JUN 1.9>3 JUL 1.8>3 AUG 1.9>3 SEP 1.9>3 OCT 1.8>3 - nice increase, since they were 1 daily last year

Thrilled to see additional frequency to the bay. Will VX ever bring back PDX-LAX or try PDX-JFK?

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 159):
SY MSP-PDX JUL 0>0.7 AUG 0>0.7 - New Service & the return of SY.

Wonder what took them so long to return to PDX? I wonder if AS starting PDX-MSP had anything to do with this?

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 159):
*AS PDX-ATL JUN 0>0.9 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.9 - Re-newed non-stop, albeit seasonally

I predict we'll see more announcements coming soon. PDX-DEN anyone? E175 announcements?
PDX-SAT?
PDX-MKE?

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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:18 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 156):
So does anyone have any idea what gate SY will be using this summer? I'm guessing something on C?

Right now United has the ATW/BTW Sun Country contract for their IFP flights. I see them using ATS for both functions like VX, F9, and NK do at PDX.
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:57 am

Quoting ANA787 (Reply 160):
*UA SFO-EUG JUN 7>5 JUL 7>4 AUG 7>4 SEP 7>4 OCT 7>4 - UA going 3 x mainline & 1 CR7

Mainline UA back in EUG? WOW!!
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:02 am

Quoting UnitedFlyer (Reply 162):
Mainline UA back in EUG? WOW!!

I thought a few of our Oregon thread participants would like to see this up-gauge. I am thrilled for our Eugene travelers. The last time I flew a mainline plane from EUG was in November 1985 on an AA 727-100.

This summer is 2 x A-320's, x A-319 & only one CR7. Is this the first time that EUG has had regularly scheduled Airbus service? I have looked through December on United.com & this 3 mainline stay through the end of the year, with just one CR7 a day, very happy for Mahlon Sweet & it's users.

Quoting ANA787 (Reply 160):
I believe AC is taking all the market share.

Very interesting, with PDX being a decent sized hub for AS, I was sure that connecting opportunities would allow at least 2 dailies work. I guess this indicates that it's more Canadian origin traffic on the route & Portlanders likely would make the 6 hour drive (on a very good day).

Quoting ANA787 (Reply 160):
Thrilled to see additional frequency to the bay. Will VX ever bring back PDX-LAX or try PDX-JFK?

IMHO, VX will fly 3 x daily to SFO, no LAX again (ater all there are 5 carriers on it now AS, AA, DL, WN & NK) & unless Portland passenger loads do very well here for VX, I doubt we'll see any other VX hubs from here, sadly.

Quoting ANA787 (Reply 160):
Wonder what took them so long to return to PDX? I wonder if AS starting PDX-MSP had anything to do with this?

I think AS is way less of a thorn to SY than DL is, so I'd imagine it's mostly the people at SY deciding where to fly their 738's to the top destinations in the country & Portland has become one of the top US destinations for our brewpubs, which are the most plentiful in all the land, excellent food options from food trucks to 5 star gourmet dining & just about everything in between, some unique & original restaurants on all different culinary levels, It's an exciting & delicious place.

Quoting ANA787 (Reply 160):
I predict we'll see more announcements coming soon.

You will, more connecting cities to PDX that are on the map already, One new city from SEA is coming, expect something unexpected soon.

Quoting ANA787 (Reply 160):
PDX-DEN anyone?

Nothing seems to sound like grinding gears to me ore than AS back in this market. With other contenders & a strained fleet, maybe 2 x E-175 or something could work. I don't know any many people that fly PDX-SEA-DEN just to be on AS.

Quoting ANA787 (Reply 160):
E175 announcements?

Even more coming after the first 15, 30 more, 18 replace DH4's then the rest is for expansion, OMA has gone mainline, more E-175 available for new cities & routes. This year should be a real treat for us AS fans.
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:22 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 163):
very happy for Mahlon Sweet & it's users.

Its cool to have bigger planes, but this is a significant reduction in frequency.
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Mon Feb 01, 2016 5:47 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 163):
Is this the first time that EUG has had regularly scheduled Airbus service?

No, Frontier (F9) did during their very brief service to EUG.
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:59 pm

Back after a while.

Flew in from SFO this last weekend and heading down to baggage claim, noticed that F9 had left the ticket counter at the far left of the middle "island" and had moved down by DL. Didn't go look but they're probably down by VX/DE/FI. Probably for the the 3 flights that F9 is adding but also thought it might be for SY but they don't start for 4 months
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:05 pm

I'm not really sure how G4 schedules and dispatches its fleet, and I've never been able to tell on its website, but I'm pretty sure G4 flies A319s into EUG on a somewhat regular basis. I saw one headed to LAX I think just a few weeks ago. (EDIT: Looking at some recent flight schedules on FlightAware, all of G4's recent flights out of EUG have been on the MDs. But I swear I saw an A319 in the corner of my eye around Christmastime, or at least I'd be willing to bet G4 Airbuses have come to EUG before.)

UA is also upgauging EUG-DEN somewhat. It looks like it's all CR7s this summer. CR7s and E170/175s do pop up on that route from time to time, but looking at summer schedules, it looks like all the UAX CR2s are gone from EUG.

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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:51 pm

Has anybody served OTH-SEA and if so with what equipment? Thanx.
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Mon Feb 01, 2016 8:54 pm

Quoting doug_or (Reply 164):
Its cool to have bigger planes, but this is a significant reduction in frequency.

You still get pretty good coverage across the day with 4 flights. And the new schedule adds 152 seats to the market. That's a 44% increase! Big.

Interestingly, PDX goes from 6 to 8 flights/day to SFO, which add a combined 237 seats per day. That's a healthy 31% increase, but definitely smaller than the increase at EUG.

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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:04 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 163):
I don't know any many people that fly PDX-SEA-DEN just to be on AS.

I do, so does my entire staff. It sucks, but I'm not flying WN or UA. Sorry.
AS could fill a daily E175 with folks like us and please a lot of loyal mileage plan members.

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I think bad exchange rate and all is killing yvr for AS.
One daily non stop from pdx is brutal for business travelers.
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:59 pm

Quoting doug_or (Reply 164):
Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 170):
I think bad exchange rate and all is killing yvr for AS.
One daily non stop from pdx is brutal for business travelers.

but the exchange rate is great for Americans.
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:03 am

Yes, but none of our Canadian customers are buying our products.
So why go visit them?

Not like Canada makes much other than maple syrup and overpriced oil.  
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:34 am

Eugene Airport passengers set record in 2015

http://registerguard.com/rg/news/loc...900000-at-airport-in-2015.html.csp

Good for EUG and also from a post above good for MFR. So glad to see record passengers.
Why endure the nightmare and congestion of LAX when BUR, LGB, ONT & SNA is so much easier to fly in and out of. Same with OAK & SJC when it comes to SFO.
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:53 am

Just the EUG - SFO flights are very expensive. UA must be using SFO as a connection hub (primarily).
Why endure the nightmare and congestion of LAX when BUR, LGB, ONT & SNA is so much easier to fly in and out of. Same with OAK & SJC when it comes to SFO.
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:27 am

Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 170):
I do, so does my entire staff. It sucks, but I'm not flying WN or UA. Sorry.
AS could fill a daily E175 with folks like us and please a lot of loyal mileage plan members.

I chose to word what I said poorly, you are right there are people who fly like this, I take AS via SEA vs a non-stop on another carrier also, we are AS loyalists. What I failed to mention was to the average person buying a ticket online. I must have been real tired & it came out wrong, very wrong, so wrong.

Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 170):
Yvr is a mess. Was up there last weekend for 24hrs. Did the dreaded pdx-sea-yvr.
On the way home Alaska YVR-SEA was late, but only had like 14 people in it.
So they moved me to the pdx-yvr AC flight so I wouldn't miss connect.

The dreaded PDX-SEA-ANYWHERE, I haven't been to Vancouver in a long time, but I remember a fairly robust economy at that time.

Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 170):
I think bad exchange rate and all is killing yvr for AS.

I bet all carriers are hurting with Canadian origin traffic because of the sliding CAD. I just remember AS having a much bigger presence at YVR.

Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 170):
One daily non stop from pdx is brutal for business travelers.

Unless you carrier swap or take a SEA connection, you end up with an overnight & bigger expenses, it's become too hard to do day trips on AS/QX.

Quoting DC10LOVER (Reply 173):

Good for EUG and also from a post above good for MFR. So glad to see record passengers.


I expect MFR to surpass EUG in the next decade, just my two cents.

Quoting DC10LOVER (Reply 174):
Just the EUG - SFO flights are very expensive. UA must be using SFO as a connection hub (primarily).


Even when I went to College in Eugene the fares on the EUG-SFO flight were way higher than flying from Portland, it way ridiculous, one of my best friends flew back & forth all the time during the school year, to see his family in the bay area.

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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:10 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 175):
I expect MFR to surpass EUG in the next decade, just my two cents.

If MFR continues to grow, maybe we will see mainline UA there as well?
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:58 pm

Just checked MFR - SFO for August. All OO United Express flights. No mainline.
Why endure the nightmare and congestion of LAX when BUR, LGB, ONT & SNA is so much easier to fly in and out of. Same with OAK & SJC when it comes to SFO.
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:41 pm

Quoting DC10LOVER (Reply 177):
Quoting DC10LOVER (Reply 177):
Just checked MFR - SFO for August. All OO United Express flights. No mainline.

No, but... frequency goes from 4/day to 5/day and where the current schedule is 3 x CRJ200 and 1 x CRJ700, the summer schedule is 1 x CRJ200 and 4 x CRJ700. That's nearly 100 additional seats per day - a 45% increase over current schedules and essentially the same percentage increase EUG in seeing.

...and if it's any consolation, MFR has 5 flights/day, where as EUG only gets 4!

Another observation: It appears that RDM gets no UA love at all this summer. Whereas PDX, EUG, and MFR all get significant increases, RDM summer schedules still show only 3 x CRJ200 on SFO-RDM. Though perhaps those schedule changes are still to come.
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Tue Feb 02, 2016 8:22 pm

I know I say a lot, but it doesn't seem like that long ago that both MFR and EUG supported mainline operations year-round.

As for RDM, that's a long segment on a -200, but at least there's another option out of there besides to "just" SEA or PDX...
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:12 pm

Quoting nwaesc (Reply 179):
As for RDM, that's a long segment on a -200, but at least there's another option out of there besides to "just" SEA or PDX...

From RDM you've also got DEN, LAX and SLC as options on UA, AA, and DL (respectively).
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:39 pm

Quoting nwaesc (Reply 179):
As for RDM, that's a long segment on a -200

Is it really? Just over an hour in the air? RDM's other -200 destinations (DEN and SLC) are both further away.
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:36 pm

I see that Frontier is now flying out of D6 and American is now using C23 at PDX........
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:45 pm

Looks like a few more general aviation hangers is going to be constructed at PDX called NORTHSIDE REDEVELOPMENT GENERAL AVIATION HANGAR DEVELOPMENT PHASE II completed in 2017

PDX%20CAC%20Business%20Aviation%20Development%20January%202016%20FINAL.pdf" target="_blank">http://cdn.portofportland.com/pdfs/P...pment%20January%202016%20FINAL.pdf
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Tue Feb 02, 2016 10:59 pm

Quoting Airnerd (Reply 180):

I meant compared to what UA offered ex-RDM not all that long ago...
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Wed Feb 03, 2016 12:14 am

Quoting nwaesc (Reply 184):
I meant compared to what UA offered ex-RDM not all that long ago...

E-120s to SFO?   
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:19 am

Quoting nwaesc (Reply 179):
As for RDM, that's a long segment on a -200, but at least there's another option out of there besides to "just" SEA or PDX...

Back in the early 2000's I flew SFO-RDM on the EMB-120 for a 2 hour non-stop, totally full on Dec 23rd. I would have given a kings ransom halfway through that flight for a CR2.

Quoting doug_or (Reply 185):
E-120s to SFO?

You get it, it was the longest EMB-120 flight in the system IIRC. Too long, Too small & Too expensive.
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:37 am

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 186):
Too long,

For long, how about when SkyWest did nonstop LAX-Telluride flights with the 120s during,IIRC, 1 ski season.
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Wed Feb 03, 2016 3:38 am

I have to say, I always enjoyed the OO crews on the Brasilia flights. Nice bunch of young men and women.
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Wed Feb 03, 2016 5:36 am

Quoting mtnwest1979 (Reply 187):
For long, how about when SkyWest did nonstop LAX-Telluride flights with the 120s during,IIRC, 1 ski season.

Didn't great lakes fly this with a 1900?
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Wed Feb 03, 2016 6:59 pm

I also read in the comment section of a news article that people in MFR want 2 non - stop AS flights to LAX..
Why endure the nightmare and congestion of LAX when BUR, LGB, ONT & SNA is so much easier to fly in and out of. Same with OAK & SJC when it comes to SFO.
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Thu Feb 04, 2016 2:28 am

Quoting DC10LOVER (Reply 190):

I also read in the comment section of a news article that people in MFR want 2 non - stop AS flights to LAX..

There is a need. A jet would be nice. Does QX still have a crew base at MFR? (I read conflicting reports some months ago.) If not, then AA/Eagle could operate the second frequency.

Was nice to have a pair of grown-ups working the LAX-MFR trip a week ago. Not sure if they were MFR-based or not.
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:48 am

Quoting Wingtips56 (Reply 191):
Does QX still have a crew base at MFR?

I thought I remember hearing that QX was closing their crew base at MFR, or may have already done it. I think it may be in this thread.

Quoting Wingtips56 (Reply 191):
If not, then AA/Eagle could operate the second frequency.

I find it interesting that AA flies LAX - EUG / RDM / PDX & AS flies the one other viable route AA doesn't to Oregon from LAX, MFR!
I think there is a good establishment of AA & AS flights that enhance the options on each other.
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:29 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 192):
I find it interesting that AA flies LAX - EUG / RDM / PDX & AS flies the one other viable route AA doesn't to Oregon from LAX, MFR!
I think there is a good establishment of AA & AS flights that enhance the options on each other.

I believe AS/QX have flown LAX-EUG and LAX-RDM in the past. Not sure why they dropped those, but MFR continues to work.
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Thu Feb 04, 2016 5:09 pm

Quoting RWA380 (Reply 192):
I find it interesting that AA flies LAX - EUG / RDM / PDX & AS flies the one other viable route AA doesn't to Oregon from LAX, MFR!

Well, it is the shortest of the bunch. On a Q400, that starts to make a difference at 2h20m flight time.
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Fri Feb 05, 2016 12:58 am

More in the Oregonian on the possibility of Delta pulling the plug on PDX-NRT:
http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/in...sia_critica.html#incart_river_home

Note that they leave out the entire NWA chapter of this service. What really happened is that DL served the route from 1986 to 2001. No one flew it until 2004 when NWA restarted it. The only reason DL flies it now is that they consumed NWA in 2009 and inherited the route again.
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:36 am

Here's one nobody's posted: SeaPort/K5 announced 03FEB that they will discontinue OTH/North Bend as of 21MAR. That preceded the 05FEB announcement that SeaPort has filed Chapter 11. (separate discussion on that).

So.... since LMT (the TSA issue) has thrown a wrench at KS/PenAir, what are the odds they will apply to pick up the EAS flying at OTH. It's been discussed casually here before, but now there is a wide open window!

I'm sure it's only a matter of time before PDT goes up for grabs too, but that TSA issue there too may be a show-stopper for KS.

Discuss....
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:47 am

Meanwhile, this just in:

KS/PenAir to begin PDX-ACV ("California Redwood Coast - Humboldt County Airport") aka Arcata-Eureka with two daily flights 21APR.

Report in the Eureka Times-Standard : http://www.times-standard.com/genera...heres-a-new-airline-coming-to-town

So OTH and PDT that I mentioned above may have to wait. And LMT's loss!
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:54 am

Pendleton, Oregon is so close to Pasco, Washington, why even have flights into Pendleton. This would make a great shuttle between Pendleton and the Pasco Airport (flights)

By the way. I love the Oregon thread even though i am in Seattle.
Why endure the nightmare and congestion of LAX when BUR, LGB, ONT & SNA is so much easier to fly in and out of. Same with OAK & SJC when it comes to SFO.
 
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RE: Oregon Aviation Thread - Part 10

Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:02 am

Nice to see Penair expanding more at it's PDX hub in 2016..Hopefully there's more to come................

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