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LSZH34
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Swiss A343 LX161 Diverting To HEL?

Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:00 pm

Just saw this on FR24. Looks like they're diverting to HEL.

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/hb-jmb/#81c9c99
 
SpaceshipDC10
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RE: Swiss A343 LX161 Diverting To HEL?

Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:16 pm

Just landed. Since they were just west of LED and went to HEL, I suspect a medical diversion.
 
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RE: Swiss A343 LX161 Diverting To HEL?

Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:19 pm

Swiss' website now shows the scheduled depature for LX161 HEL-ZRH as 17:25 EET, so two hours from now. I'm not sure if passangers need to clear immigration at HEL now, but if there just offloading a medical, 2 hours ground time seem to be a bit long.

[Edited 2015-11-29 05:20:13]
 
SpaceshipDC10
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RE: Swiss A343 LX161 Diverting To HEL?

Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:24 pm

Quoting NH203 (Reply 2):
but if there just offloading a medical, 2 hours ground time seem to be a bit long.

Agree. A follow me car (I guess) "drove" it to the south side of the airport.
 
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RE: Swiss A343 LX161 Diverting To HEL?

Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:32 pm

Quoting NH203 (Reply 2):
but if there just offloading a medical, 2 hours ground time seem to be a bit long.

Maybe waiting for a crew swap?
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LSZH34
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RE: Swiss A343 LX161 Diverting To HEL?

Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:40 pm

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 1):
I suspect a medical diversion.

Was my first thought too. Many medical diversion in the recent weeks for LX on their longhaul flights.
 
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RE: Swiss A343 LX161 Diverting To HEL?

Sun Nov 29, 2015 1:46 pm

Quoting petteri (Reply 4):
Maybe waiting for a crew swap?

Could be, but I doubt they can fly in a replacement crew from ZRH in just 2 hours. ZRH-HEL alone takes around 2.5 hours depending on the wind.

Just a wild speculation here, but I think based on the fact they ditched LED as a possible alternate and went for HEL, it's either a non-severe medical, a "non-severe" malfunction of the aircraft or perhaps an unruly passenger.

Landing in Russia with 250 pax without proper visas will definitly be a more challenging situation then diverting to HEL, where every pax on board will meet the entry requirements (as Finland and Switzerland are both members of the Schengen Agreement). However, they must have figured they have the time to go to HEL. If there had been a serious problem, they'd have gone to LED either way.
 
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RE: Swiss A343 LX161 Diverting To HEL?

Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:00 pm

Quoting NH203 (Reply 6):
Just a wild speculation here, but I think based on the fact they ditched LED as a possible alternate and went for HEL, it's either a non-severe medical, a "non-severe" malfunction of the aircraft or perhaps an unruly passenger.

When they changed course, they 50km west of LED and at FL380. No flights have been sent in a holding pattern while LX161 was approaching HEL, so it might indeed be non-severe.
 
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RE: Swiss A343 LX161 Diverting To HEL?

Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:03 pm

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 7):
When they changed course, they 50km west of LED and at FL380. No flights have been sent in a holding pattern while LX161 was approaching HEL, so it might indeed be non-severe.

You're right, sry, I misinterpreted the FR24 path.
 
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RE: Swiss A343 LX161 Diverting To HEL?

Sun Nov 29, 2015 2:18 pm

HB-JMB is already on the move again, so I suposse they just dropped a medical or unruly passenger off.
 
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RE: Swiss A343 LX161 Diverting To HEL?

Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:05 pm

The flight is scheduled to arrive just after 18:00, hence a delay of 2 hours. I assume the plane could land in HEL without even dropping fuel as I guess the max Landing weight for an A343 is reached at around 3'000KM or 3 -4 hours before empty fuel tanks?
 
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RE: Swiss A343 LX161 Diverting To HEL?

Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:13 pm

HB-JMB is currently still scheduled to do ZRH-HKG tonight, leaving at 22:40 CET, so the aircraft will only be on the ground for about 4:40. I think that would rule out any problems with the aircraft, even if they might not be relevant for the MEL, thus allowing the flight to continue from HEL.
 
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RE: Swiss A343 LX161 Diverting To HEL?

Sun Nov 29, 2015 4:38 pm

Quoting NH203 (Reply 11):
so the aircraft will only be on the ground for about 4:40.

Unless something will be discovered, maintenance-wise, at ZRH, it's plenty of time.
 
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RE: Swiss A343 LX161 Diverting To HEL?

Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:50 am

According to info on Facebook, the diversion was to add fuel.
 
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RE: Swiss A343 LX161 Diverting To HEL?

Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:36 am

Quoting KLRU (Reply 13):
According to info on Facebook, the diversion was to add fuel.

Could be, after all, since there were high winds in some parts of Europe, and bad weather coming from the Atlantic, thus becoming headwinds for that flight.
 
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RE: Swiss A343 LX161 Diverting To HEL?

Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:33 pm

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 14):

That must have been intense headwinds.
 
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RE: Swiss A343 LX161 Diverting To HEL?

Mon Nov 30, 2015 2:18 pm

Quoting LSZH34 (Reply 15):
That must have been intense headwinds.

Yesterday, on a different thread, migair54 published this link, which has been updated today. He also said: "East bound enjoying a good tailwind. Around 150 knots at FL340", that is across the Atlantic. If LX161 had to land to refuel, it might have been just to have the minimums required.


http://www.turbulenceforecast.com/atlantic_eastbound_tracks.php

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