Moderators: jsumali2, richierich, ua900, PanAm_DC10, hOMSaR

 
User avatar
TK787
Topic Author
Posts: 4813
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

Turkish Aviation December 2015

Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:19 am

Dear Turkish Aviation fans welcome to the latest thread and Happy Anniversary!!!!

Thanks a lot to everyone who participated in these threads since we started way back in December 2006.


View Large View Medium
Click here for bigger photo!

Photo © Gerard Griessel - AirTeamImages


Who would have thought??.... a TK A333 in Durban !!!

Here is a recap of some recent news/rumors:
-TK to start SAW-DXB, in response to EK starting the same route.
-TK to lease 5 x(??) A333s from Skymark
-Due to the downing of a Russian military jet, the relations between Russia and Turkey are getting worse. We might see the effects on Turkish Aviation and Turkish tourism in general.
-TK converts existing options to firm orders. 10 B737-8 MAX (delivery 2021), 20 A321 NEO (delivery 2020-2021)
-TK also postponed delivery of 17 A321 NEOs (original delivery 2017-2018, new delivery 2021-2022) probably due to new IST being delayed or as a.net member "wing" suggests; due to lack of pilots  
-TK was to get one more 77W this month, but latest news suggest it will be mid January and it will be the 300th frame for TK. We might expect a special livery.


Please continue with your news, photos, rumors, suggestions and good old sense of humor. Refrain from personal attacks, political comments. Keep Turkish Aviation threads for sharing information in a civil manner.
Thank you all.

TK787
 
ahmetdouas
Posts: 310
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:23 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:57 am

It's interesting to say lack of pilots, which I do not believe to be the case.
However, I did hear that some pilots left TK because they were being paid in Turkish Liras so with the depreciation it was costing them a lot of money.
Maybe take some Turkish Pilots from the Air Force?
 
User avatar
OA260
Posts: 25591
Joined: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:50 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:23 pm

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):

Thanks for a new thread. Congrats for the years of maintaining it  
It will be interesting to watch the SAW-DXB route with both on it !
 
User avatar
TK787
Topic Author
Posts: 4813
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:39 pm

Quoting ahmetdouas (Reply 1):
It's interesting to say lack of pilots, which I do not believe to be the case.

Welcome to a.net.

-"Lack of pilots" comment came from our long time member "Wing", who is a A330 pilot at TK. I bet he knows a thing or two about the inside situation.
-About foreign pilots flying at TK. 700+ work at TK, compared to 3000+ Turkish pilots. The largest groups by country are Germans, Greeks, Spanish, Italian and Dutch... From what I gather, as of Sept 2015; 59 foreign pilots left TK while another 183 joined in 2015. Like you said, TL went from 2.35 to 2.90 to the dollar this year and it might be one of the reasons. Also TK was looking at Russian pilots recently due to contraction of the market there.
-Taking pilots from TAF was the primary way to recruit in the past for TK. But in the last 10 years, Turkish Aviation needs much more pilots than the Air Force alone. IIRC, TK has its own flight school in Turkey and using another one in the USA. There are also a dozen private schools, but can not keep up with the demand.

Bahadir and Wing might have better information than me on this.
 
User avatar
TK787
Topic Author
Posts: 4813
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:42 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
It will be interesting to watch the SAW-DXB route with both on it !

Thank you.
From what I know, most of my friends choose EK over TK due to deploying larger aircraft. I am sure there is enough demand for all of them to survive on the route.
 
ahmetdouas
Posts: 310
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:23 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:49 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 4):

Yes I believe the 738 is too small for such a long flight and between the 738 and A330 and 777 I know which one I would choose!
 
User avatar
LAXintl
Posts: 25479
Joined: Wed May 24, 2000 12:12 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:53 pm

Wow December already. Thanks for the new thread TK787.


In regards to pilots yes there is a shortage in Turkey hence why so many foreign pilots are employed.
Remember Turkey is not only THY, but airlines like Pegasus, Sun Express, Borajet, Atlasjet, OnurAir, MNG, myCargo, Corendon, Freebird, etc all compete for pilots.

The TuAF can only produce a fraction of the demand that all these civilian airlines require.
 
ahmetdouas
Posts: 310
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:23 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:02 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 6):
The TuAF can only produce a fraction of the demand that all these civilian airlines require.

Well then I guess TK needs to be more aggressive in recruiting Turkish youngsters to become pilots and sponsor them as most won't be able to afford the training needed to become one. I am sure there are plenty of young Turks who would love to fly if given the opportunity to do so!
 
User avatar
TK787
Topic Author
Posts: 4813
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:08 pm

Quoting ahmetdouas (Reply 7):
recruiting Turkish youngsters

Just in past July, TK recruited 500 candidates, with strict qualifications. All education expenses to be paid by TK, and eventually once hired by TK to be deducted from pilots' paychecks.
 
ahmetdouas
Posts: 310
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:23 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:10 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 8):

So i'm guessing they will need to recruit at least double that on top of that they are doing.
 
User avatar
LAXintl
Posts: 25479
Joined: Wed May 24, 2000 12:12 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:10 pm

Ali Genc the TK PR spokesmen says TK is ready to respond to any changes in Russian operations by rapidly shifting capacity to other market destinations which offer ongoing growth potential.

While TK still anticipates serving 1-million customers across its 10-Russian markets in 2015, Russia is merely one of 111 nations served by TK and only represents only about 1.5% of enplanenents, so the carrier is not overly reliant on a single market.
 
User avatar
mercure1
Posts: 5214
Joined: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:13 am

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:36 pm

I see TK as expert in market reaction.
Russian market which already seen great decline in demand this year already for European airlines, TK can easily adjust capacity with smaller frames, reduce frequency or even entirely vacate routes.
With such diverse network TK can place its equipment and efforts in alternate markets which offer stronger demand and resultant profits.
 
User avatar
TK105
Posts: 619
Joined: Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:40 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:49 pm

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 11):

There were some news that Turkey and India would discuss new bilateral during G20 summit at Antalya. Is there any update about it?
 
1g
Posts: 194
Joined: Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:43 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:25 pm

There was news a while back about Turkey and China lifting visa requirements for each other. Any update on this development? It barely got any media attention in the first place.

Seeing China's visa policy, it would definitely be a unique for Turkey to be visa exempt.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Visa_policy_of_China_for_holders_of_official_passports.png

15 visa exemption for Japan Singapore and Brunei, 30 day visa exemption some island nations and a 90 day visa exemption for San Marino (LOL)

Would definitely be a very nice development if it were to come true.

[Edited 2015-12-01 13:26:42]
 
Nimish
Posts: 2969
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2005 6:46 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:59 am

Quoting TK105 (Reply 12):
There were some news that Turkey and India would discuss new bilateral during G20 summit at Antalya. Is there any update about it?

TK services to points like BLR, MAA, HYD etc. are long overdue. TK needs to really cozy up to AI (IMHO) to start getting the leverage they need with the Indian govt.
 
User avatar
SQ773
Posts: 219
Joined: Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:24 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:23 pm

Hi there !

While seeing this link from Airbus, I noticed that in this TK A321 NEO the grey tulip is not on the fuselage.
Is there any change on their livery wherby the tulip is gone ??

http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pr...or-20-additional-a321neo-aircraft/

I really hope not....
 
User avatar
TK787
Topic Author
Posts: 4813
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:05 pm

Tower design competition for the new Istanbul airport;

http://www.airporthaber.com/havacili...limaninin-kulesi-nasil-olacak.html

Not all that impressed with them  
 
User avatar
mercure1
Posts: 5214
Joined: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:13 am

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:26 pm

i would like to see something like to see tower mimic a minaret to make use of the rich history of Islamic arts in Turkey.
 
User avatar
LAXintl
Posts: 25479
Joined: Wed May 24, 2000 12:12 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:06 pm

AtlasGlobal launching daily IST-Sharjah service effective March 26th. They were originally planning to launch summer of 2015, but for whatever reason delayed start up till 2016.
 
boun
Posts: 48
Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:23 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:30 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 18):

AtlasGlobal launching daily IST-Sharjah service effective March 26th. They were originally planning to launch summer of 2015, but for whatever reason delayed start up till 2016.

I think they have already been flying from SAW. Are they discontinuing that or this new service complements the one from SAW?
 
777way
Posts: 6457
Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:38 am

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:06 pm

Ariana seem to be flying to Sivas once weekly from KBL, rather unusual destination http://www.flyariana.com/Sched/view.asp

[Edited 2015-12-02 13:14:42]
 
User avatar
LAXintl
Posts: 25479
Joined: Wed May 24, 2000 12:12 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:48 pm

Looking in GDS only company I see on SAW-SHJ is Air Arabia.

Quoting 777way (Reply 20):

Ariana seem to be flying to Sivas once weekly from KBL, rather unusual destination

There are thousands of Afghans in Sivas.
It's long been a location where Western allies train Afghan police and civilian government employees.
 
777way
Posts: 6457
Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2005 1:38 am

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:52 pm

^ The service is just one off and not showing in older and newer schdeule.
 
boun
Posts: 48
Joined: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:23 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:12 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 21):

Looking in GDS only company I see on SAW-SHJ is Air Arabia.

You're right. Nothing shows up as KK7284 in FR24,too. Strangely enough, there is an airlineroute link from the summer: http://airlineroute.net/2015/04/08/kk-sawshj-s15/. I guess this never materialised or had a short lifetime.
 
n471wn
Posts: 1717
Joined: Tue Dec 02, 2003 12:23 am

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:27 pm

Has any decision been made on the damaged 330 at Katmandu?
 
User avatar
TK787
Topic Author
Posts: 4813
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Sat Dec 05, 2015 2:24 pm

Quoting n471wn (Reply 24):
damaged 330 at Katmandu?

AFAIK, it is a write off.

-Has anyone else seen the TK ad on top of the a.net page? I know it is a cookie, but never had it here before.
 
User avatar
Yakamoz
Posts: 544
Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:30 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Sat Dec 05, 2015 3:56 pm

Quoting n471wn (Reply 24):
Quoting TK787 (Reply 25):

Nothing official at the moment.

TC-LNB A332 is now in service since 3rd December after a long time stored.
 
User avatar
Yakamoz
Posts: 544
Joined: Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:30 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Sat Dec 05, 2015 7:49 pm

More fleet updates:

- Act Airlines will add 7th B747-400F. Aircraft is 9V-SFL of Singapore Cargo.

- Next B773 of TK, TC-LJD, has flown to Portland for painting.

- According to Anadolu Jet webpage, there is no B737-700s left in their fleet. That means also TK fleet is now 297 and TC-LJD won't be 300th aircraft.
 
User avatar
LAXintl
Posts: 25479
Joined: Wed May 24, 2000 12:12 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Sat Dec 05, 2015 9:29 pm

Per agreement with Pakistan, TK received approval to add Faisalabad. Plan first half 2016, with most likely 737s initially.
 
Turkish777X
Posts: 376
Joined: Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:38 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:59 am

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 28):
Per agreement with Pakistan, TK received approval to add Faisalabad. Plan first half 2016, with most likely 737s initially.

What is the assigned frequency? Amazing how the service to Pakistan grew so rapidly in the last years.
 
User avatar
LAXintl
Posts: 25479
Joined: Wed May 24, 2000 12:12 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Mon Dec 07, 2015 3:16 pm

This week the Airport Council International annual congress takes place in Istanbul. Event is sponsored by IGA the developer and operators of the 3rd airport, while TK is the main sponsor including offering keynote speeches by Temel Kotil.

Lets see what news comes out of it....

Quoting Turkish777X (Reply 29):
What is the assigned frequency? Amazing how the service to Pakistan grew so rapidly in the last years.

I dont know. Suspect it will start with something like 3-4x weekly.
 
gokmengs
Posts: 1283
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:48 am

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:45 pm

Just about to book JFK-IST I didn't realize they made all 3 flights 330's, I do like the quite cabin of the 330 compared to 777 but I will miss the wifi.
Will the 777's be back on the route soon?
 
1g
Posts: 194
Joined: Sat Sep 05, 2015 2:43 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:30 pm

Quoting gokmengs (Reply 31):
but I will miss the wifi.

TK has WiFi on all of its flights to and from JFK if I'm not mistaken. All the flights I flew with had WiFi and all of them were done with the A330.
 
gokmengs
Posts: 1283
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:48 am

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Mon Dec 07, 2015 7:42 pm

Quoting 1g (Reply 32):

I can assure you that's not the case as of end October, the 330 I flew to JFK didn't have wifi.
 
User avatar
TK787
Topic Author
Posts: 4813
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:12 pm

gokmengs,
You must have have missed the news earlier this year. Yes, this happened Oct.24th. That is why I wanted to fly the last 77W Comfort class on Oct.23rd. But due to work schedule, I had to change me ticket to a later date and downgrade to Y.
Most 333s I have been on have the wifi, and by the end of next year TK is planning to equip all long haul fleet with wifi.
And Yes, 777 are making a comeback next year, but I am not sure if Comfort will be back ;(
 
User avatar
TK787
Topic Author
Posts: 4813
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:16 pm

Ahhh, here is the answer:
2 out of 3 JFK flights will be back to 77W, starting 30May16
http://airlineroute.net/2015/10/23/tk-jfk-s16/
 
gokmengs
Posts: 1283
Joined: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:48 am

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Tue Dec 08, 2015 6:26 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 35):

Thanks for the info my friend, must have missed that, one of these days maybe we'll be on the same flight 
 
User avatar
ankaraflyjet
Posts: 487
Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:34 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:50 pm

RJ launched AMM ESB AMM today, hrice weekly on winter timetable


ESB also exceeded 11 million pax as of end of Nov 15 so last year's pax number already passed, so will close at 12 million looks like, woow, 10 years ago it was less than 2 million, that is a significant progress...
 
eielef
Posts: 730
Joined: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:07 am

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Tue Dec 08, 2015 7:55 pm

Any chance of getting IST-EZE nonstop? At least 2 weekly or so? I think is technically possible...
 
User avatar
LAXintl
Posts: 25479
Joined: Wed May 24, 2000 12:12 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:56 pm

Some bits of news from the ACI annual congress in Istanbul this week.
Participants included TK CEO Temel Kotil, Transport Minister Yildirim, executives from TAV operator IST airport and IGA operators of the future 3rd airport, plus other many industry and airport delegates.


IATA
o Commends Turkey as model nation for its leadership in development of air transportation. Positive regulatory environment, priority given to infrastructure investment, pro consumer environment, and active civil aviation authority.
o Expect doubling of world air traffic by 2030. Travel becoming ever more accessible for global citizens. No longer hobby of the elite.

IGA
o 3rd airport on track for 2018. Main terminal and 3 runways part of phase 1.
o Expect 80-90 million passengers first year
o Will move forward immediately with phase 2 with additional terminal and runway to meet annual 100mil+ forecast demand.
o Biggest infrastructure project in Turkish history
o 6,000 - 8,000 workers on site daily on 24/7 shift
o Biggest challenge to date has been excavation and earth works leveling site. At peak used 2,000 trucks to move earth.
o Expect to be Europe's busiest
o Not only will airport be key passenger hub, but also for cargo. DHL earlier announced building 20,000sqm Regional Operation Centre and hub at new airports. Also companies like Amazon will be creating new distribution logistic center in Turkey near airport to serve much of Europe, Africa and MidEast.

TAV
o Now truly a global company and can integrate capital, knowledge and technology in airport construction and management.
o Directly manages 14 airports in 7 counties, but subsidiary companies operate at over 50 airports providing everything from ground handling to duty free and food and beverage services.
o With partnership with ADP Aéroports de Paris will become ever more active. See opportunities in Africa, Asia and Americas.
o Expect IST to overtake FRA as Europes 3rd busiest airport.

ACI
o New airports in Beijing, Dubai and Istanbul will make these cities worlds most largest transit centers.
o Airports once built for benefit of airlines and operational ease in mind are now increasingly focused on passenger experience instead.
o Being able to digitally engage customer becoming important for airlines and airports.

DHMI
o Expect no slot constraints at new airport. New airport will offer 1.5x slot capacity of current IST from day one, and approx 3x the slot capacity when all 6 runways operations.
o Air carrier passenger ops will end at IST once new airport opens. Still considering options, but maybe allow some bizjet, maintenance and cargo ops could remain at IST in short term. Long term want to redevelop former airport land into other uses.

THY
o Very excited about new airport. Better passenger experience and room for lots of network growth
o Today TK offers more connections between Europe-Africa-Middle East then any airline
o Considering development of one or more regional brands to further provide feed the new airport. At the moment TK has no aircraft under 100 seats besides its Borajet partnership while all its European peers have significant regional feed options.
o Could serve "hundreds" of second and third tier airports with regional feed within 3hrs of Istanbul.
o As Istanbul's connectivity grows, more foreign companies are attracted to set up offices which drives further demand and connectivity. Its become a "self sustaining cycle". TK seeing its highest ever volume of premium and business demand from IST.

Pegasus
o Pegasus with 100 planes on order reviewing opportunities for ops at 3rd airport. While very happy and dominant hub carrier at SAW, but with ~90km road distance between two airports sees two airport as operating complimentary side by side and serving own catchment areas.

=
 
User avatar
mercure1
Posts: 5214
Joined: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:13 am

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:30 pm

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 39):
o Considering development of one or more regional brands to further provide feed the new airport. At the moment TK has no aircraft under 100 seats besides its Borajet partnership while all its European peers have significant regional feed options.
o Could serve "hundreds" of second and third tier airports with regional feed within 3hrs of Istanbul.

Wow this would be a massive move.

Imagine TK having 100 additional new secondary destinations and a couple hundred regional aircraft for such feed.

It would make TK and new airport hub even more formidable.

 Wow!
 
User avatar
TK105
Posts: 619
Joined: Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:40 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:31 pm

Just got back from another ESB-IST-DXB round trip on TK-EK combo.

IST is a zoo as usual. But most interesting thing is again Visa Violation Office and the long queue in front of it. Queue is getting longer as far as I can see, every time I pass in front it (next to passport control).

This time I also witnessed for the first time passport control by police at the bridge, upon arrival to IST. We all have experienced similar controls after a TK plane lands to a EU airport. But this time, it was at IST and the control was at the gate of arriving EK121. Police let any Turkish Passport holder without any question but all foreign passport holders where questioned (for what I do not know).

EK has an excellent internet service on board. For 1 USD, you get 500MB data limit which is an excellent deal. It also works considerably fast. But food on EK economy class is simply terrible.
 
User avatar
ankaraflyjet
Posts: 487
Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2007 5:34 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:03 pm

Quoting TK105 (Reply 41):

May be you can try ESB-AMM-DXB next time so we can get some report on RJ's new service...
 
User avatar
TK787
Topic Author
Posts: 4813
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:16 pm

TK becomes official airline sponsor for Euro 2016:
http://www.uefa.org/mediaservices/mediareleases/newsid=2315735.html
 
User avatar
LAXintl
Posts: 25479
Joined: Wed May 24, 2000 12:12 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:39 am

In a last minute swap, effective December 28th no more Comfort Class in MIA.
I don't know if this coincides with an aircraft check where the comfort class product will commence to be removed or aircraft simply being moved to another market.

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 40):
Wow this would be a massive move.
Imagine TK having 100 additional new secondary destinations and a couple hundred regional aircraft for such feed.
It would make TK and new airport hub even more formidable.

  

Yes indeed could be a huge move to have a few hundred regional aircraft feeding the new airport hub.
 
User avatar
TK105
Posts: 619
Joined: Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:40 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:53 am

Quoting mercure1 (Reply 40):
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 44):

A new LCC can be formed to serv European secondary destinations. In fact such an operator can be very effective if it uses the same model as Anadolujet. Not being in EU will further protect TK against its peers in this model. I even have a name for you which is in line with targets and general understanding of TK management, as well as complements Anadolujet name:

RUMELIJET

But if TK uses this name, they have to pay me IP/TM rights. I have already applied to TPE to register this trade mark and I'm serious.  

Dear TK Management,

I'm open for offers for sale or lease of this trade mark, please do not hesitate to contact me through a.net private msg.

Quoting ankaraflyjet (Reply 42):

I checked RJ schedule. It does not fit very well. But with a combined busines opportunity in Jordan with over night stay, sounds interesting.
 
User avatar
TK787
Topic Author
Posts: 4813
Joined: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 am

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:07 pm

Binali Yildirim, Minister of Transportation wants the new airport in Istanbul to open on February 26th, 2018.
I looked it up if that was a historically significant date, and sure enough; it is the birth date for both the President and the Prime Minister.  
 
ahmetdouas
Posts: 310
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2015 2:23 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Fri Dec 11, 2015 10:59 pm

 
Turkish350XWB
Posts: 491
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:23 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:58 pm

Quoting TK787 (Reply 46):
Binali Yildirim, Minister of Transportation wants the new airport in Istanbul to open on February 26th, 2018. I looked it up if that was a historically significant date, and sure enough; it is the birth date for both the President and the Prime Minister.

Thanks for looking up. That's really funny, I only know two kinds of states were the birthday of the leaders is celebrated: third world countries and totaliarian regimes, e.g. Nazi-Germany, North-Korea  ))
 
User avatar
LAXintl
Posts: 25479
Joined: Wed May 24, 2000 12:12 pm

RE: Turkish Aviation December 2015

Sat Dec 12, 2015 12:14 am

TK changes DEL To 77W from 330 in January. Mumbai already sees 77W

Quoting Turkish350xwb (Reply 48):
That's really funny, I only know two kinds of states were the birthday of the leaders is celebrated: third world countries and totaliarian regimes, e.g. Nazi-Germany, North-Korea &nbsp )

 

I guess you consider the US third world countries and totalitarian regime then.

Not only do we celebrate a national holiday commemorating George Washington's birthday, individual states also have additional holidays to commemorate other presidents.

The US even has national holiday honoring birthday of leftist labor movement activist (Cesar Chavez) and civil rights activist (MLK)

I'm sure other democracies as well honor important leaders be it presidents or those from other walks of life.

Popular Searches On Airliners.net

Top Photos of Last:   24 Hours  •  48 Hours  •  7 Days  •  30 Days  •  180 Days  •  365 Days  •  All Time

Military Aircraft Every type from fighters to helicopters from air forces around the globe

Classic Airliners Props and jets from the good old days

Flight Decks Views from inside the cockpit

Aircraft Cabins Passenger cabin shots showing seat arrangements as well as cargo aircraft interior

Cargo Aircraft Pictures of great freighter aircraft

Government Aircraft Aircraft flying government officials

Helicopters Our large helicopter section. Both military and civil versions

Blimps / Airships Everything from the Goodyear blimp to the Zeppelin

Night Photos Beautiful shots taken while the sun is below the horizon

Accidents Accident, incident and crash related photos

Air to Air Photos taken by airborne photographers of airborne aircraft

Special Paint Schemes Aircraft painted in beautiful and original liveries

Airport Overviews Airport overviews from the air or ground

Tails and Winglets Tail and Winglet closeups with beautiful airline logos