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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:35 pm

KarelXWB wrote:
So why not delaying deliveries a bit? Must be quite expensive to have an idle fleet sitting on the tarmac for months.


Boeing isn't going to have space to store 9 Max acft on their property. Maybe they could help out WN under normal circumstances but they're already full to the rafters with over 10 Chinese NGs cluttering the place up at BFI and of course all the other Max acft are running ahead of schedule too so it's fair to say that some of the other Max customers possibly won't be ready to take theirs yet either. Boeing will want them off their property asap.

I'd imagine there's something in the contract about early and late delivery where Boeing agree to pay whatever the costs are to park/store them either on-site or off-site if the customer won't take them until the delivery date they agreed upon. I'm sure Boeing will have had this chat with WN already and formulated a plan between them where both parties are happy.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:45 pm

when ryanair will recive the first max?
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Mar 28, 2017 4:55 pm

enorloz wrote:
when ryanair will recive the first max?

Not until 2019. They have to wait until the MAX 200 is built and certified (not that that will be difficult).
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:27 am

ikolkyo wrote:
I'm surprised there wasn't dual certification with the EASA.


EASA is probably still chewing on the grandfathering disliking the taste. :-)

... and why show haste after the FAA dragged their knuckles on the A350?
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:26 pm

First Flydubai 737 MAX now fully painted:

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A6-MAX FlyDubai 737-8 MAX - C/N 60966 / LN 6326 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Wed Mar 29, 2017 6:33 pm

Looking good, especially the fully painted winglet. I wish WN would do the same.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Wed Mar 29, 2017 7:54 pm

ikolkyo wrote:
Looking good, especially the fully painted winglet. I wish WN would do the same.

Yeah I agree, or they could at least cut off the colors on the winglet's crease. It kinda gets my OCD going haha https://www.flickr.com/photos/flightblogger/28734712542/
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:02 am

WIederling wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
I'm surprised there wasn't dual certification with the EASA.


EASA is probably still chewing on the grandfathering disliking the taste. :-)

... and why show haste after the FAA dragged their knuckles on the A350?


Please ... it was 60 days after EASA. Hardly dragging their feet. And we don't even know if the hold up was on the FAA side ... it could have been missing paperwork etc ...

Sometimes I am convinced you want to build an even bigger ocean between the US and Europe ... :)
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:09 am

phxa340 wrote:
WIederling wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
I'm surprised there wasn't dual certification with the EASA.


EASA is probably still chewing on the grandfathering disliking the taste. :-)

... and why show haste after the FAA dragged their knuckles on the A350?


Please ... it was 60 days after EASA. Hardly dragging their feet. And we don't even know if the hold up was on the FAA side ... it could have been missing paperwork etc ...


I believe part of it was due to the Federal budget sequestration which resulted in non-critical FAA work (including the folks who handle certification paperwork) being halted for a period of time.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:57 am

phxa340 wrote:
Sometimes I am convinced you want to build an even bigger ocean between the US and Europe ... :)


The "site topic" says that wouldn't help much :-)
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Re: RE: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:00 am

WIederling wrote:
Quoting barney captain (Reply 22):Even the 787 has them -
No idea about missing windows due to ducting but for the 787
initially windows were planned bisecting the junction between sections.
This did not work out.

If you'll notice? at the Door 2RH there is a window blocked and there's a Lavatory in that position . There's also a lav on the opposite door as well I'll bet good money that's also the division between First Class and Coach..
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Thu Mar 30, 2017 5:19 pm

Close-up on LN 6114, another MAX for the Lion Air Group:

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PK- Lion Air Boeing 737-8 MAX - C/N 42994 / LN 6114 by Woodys Aeroimages, on Flickr
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Fri Mar 31, 2017 3:29 am

boefan wrote:
First Boeing 737-9 nearing completion

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Why is there a cubical farm next to the assembly line? What sort of paperwork are they doing? And is this for normal production, or due to the new model? And does Airbus do this thing too?
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:43 pm

kitplane01 wrote:


Why is there a cubical farm next to the assembly line? What sort of paperwork are they doing? And is this for normal production, or due to the new model? And does Airbus do this thing too?


Probably flight test engineers/maintenance people dealing with installing the test equipment on the airplane.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Fri Mar 31, 2017 2:56 pm

7BOEING7 wrote:
kitplane01 wrote:


Why is there a cubical farm next to the assembly line? What sort of paperwork are they doing? And is this for normal production, or due to the new model? And does Airbus do this thing too?


Probably flight test engineers/maintenance people dealing with installing the test equipment on the airplane.

And a great place to surf sites that suspiciously look like Facebook at work as seen on the double screen computer to the left.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Fri Mar 31, 2017 4:06 pm

kitplane01 wrote:
boefan wrote:
First Boeing 737-9 nearing completion

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Why is there a cubical farm next to the assembly line? What sort of paperwork are they doing? And is this for normal production, or due to the new model?

Back around year 2000 Boeing started moving key functions to the factory floor for faster problem resolution and improved interface.. the functions included Quality Control Manufacturing Engineering, Industrial Engineering, Liaison Engineering, Production Engineering , etc.. Design engineers were also moved form remote locations to the factory buildings.. The cubicle farms are not unique to new model lines and are found on all FALs
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:59 pm

kanban wrote:
kitplane01 wrote:
boefan wrote:
First Boeing 737-9 nearing completion

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Why is there a cubical farm next to the assembly line? What sort of paperwork are they doing? And is this for normal production, or due to the new model?

Back around year 2000 Boeing started moving key functions to the factory floor for faster problem resolution and improved interface.. the functions included Quality Control Manufacturing Engineering, Industrial Engineering, Liaison Engineering, Production Engineering , etc.. Design engineers were also moved form remote locations to the factory buildings.. The cubicle farms are not unique to new model lines and are found on all FALs



Does Airbus or Bombardier do this too?
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:24 pm

Don't think this was ever posted here but I still find it mind blowing WN has so many MAX just sitting around at Renton!

5 WN jets in 1 picture

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Source: https://flic.kr/p/RUcoZA
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Sun Apr 02, 2017 2:08 pm

Will the first flight 739 become first operational 739?
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Sun Apr 02, 2017 4:52 pm

Are any of Norwegian's 737-8MAXs painted yet? As far as I know, they'll be the first operator to fly the MAX even though Southwest is still launch customer?
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:15 pm

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Will the first flight 739 become first operational 739?


Are you talking about the first to enter service? Most likely not but will eventually be delivered to an airline after the test campaign is done and it has went through refurbishment.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:21 pm

When do we expect MAX 9 first flight? MAX 7 roll out?
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:04 pm

ikolkyo wrote:
benbeny wrote:
Will the first flight 739 become first operational 739?


Are you talking about the first to enter service? Most likely not but will eventually be delivered to an airline after the test campaign is done and it has went through refurbishment.

Yes, I'm talking about the first who enter service. Thanks for clarification.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Sat Apr 08, 2017 5:51 am

 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:12 pm

I would love to know how the 738 max has performed during flight testing. Since the reports way back when, about supposed serious shortfalls in the Leap performance, there has been virtually nada about how the plane is performing in real world conditions.

I find it eerily strange that a flight test program has produces so few rumours.
What the...?
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:55 pm

boefan wrote:


Nice. When will it get fully painted?
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:03 pm

April 13th for 737 MAX 9 first flight.

https://twitter.com/BoeingAirplanes/sta ... 1080326144
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:06 pm

Hmmm 13th, not a date I'd have picked for a first flight
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:42 am

The MAX 9 performed a taxi test yesterday, ahead of its first flight today.

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Apr 25, 2017 7:59 am

Second MAX 9 in full Lion Air livery:

ImageBoeing 737 MAX 9 Lion Air LN6308 by Huy Do, on Flickr
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:43 pm

817Dreamliiner wrote:
Second MAX 9 in full Lion Air livery:

ImageBoeing 737 MAX 9 Lion Air LN6308 by Huy Do, on Flickr

When's the first 7M9 meant to be delivered.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:04 pm

Flight testing has just started, I presume first delivery will happen somewhere in 2018.
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First Norwegian Boeing 737-8 Max in flight testing today

Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:11 pm

 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Sun Apr 30, 2017 12:47 pm

Aerial view of the second MAX 9 in Lion Air colors:

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Boeing 737 MAX 9 Lion Air N739EX LN6308 by Huy Do, on Flickr
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue May 02, 2017 8:44 am

Thai Lion Air LN 6114 has taken to the skies for the first time.

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Boeing 737 MAX 8 Lion Air N6067E LN6114 by Huy Do, on Flickr
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue May 02, 2017 9:58 am

Interesting article about the revised main gear arrangement for the -10:
http://aviationweek.com/commercial-avia ... -test-plan

Sounds like they are really pushing the boundaries to get it all to fit in the existing well. Let's hope it's going to be reliable.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Tue May 02, 2017 4:09 pm

MileHFL400 wrote:
Hmmm 13th, not a date I'd have picked for a first flight



It's just a date/number. I can't believe people get caught up on all this BS - the 13th crap.

It annoys me that airports, planes, etc skip the number 13 so often. It's just a number. No one is going to not fly on a particular plane because it has a row 13 or a gate that is number 13. It's ridiculous.
Whatever
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Thu May 04, 2017 11:11 am

LN 6384, first MAX 8 for WestJet:

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Thu May 04, 2017 5:08 pm

And look, sun......finally. :-) I might need to run into Renton and see what's going on.
-Dave


MAX’d out on MAX threads. If you are starting a thread, and it’s about the MAX - stop. There’s already a thread that covers it.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Thu May 04, 2017 5:42 pm

Second MAX 8 for Norwegian spotted fully painted at Renton

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http://twitter.com/woody2190/status/860186484137009153
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Thu May 04, 2017 6:13 pm

I love that the MAX is really starting to ramp up, can't wait to see them all flying.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Thu May 04, 2017 7:18 pm

MesserJ wrote:
ikolkyo wrote:
Looking good, especially the fully painted winglet. I wish WN would do the same.

Yeah I agree, or they could at least cut off the colors on the winglet's crease. It kinda gets my OCD going haha https://www.flickr.com/photos/flightblogger/28734712542/


That grey piece where the paint stops is a fairing that comes off - the winglet is 3 pieces. Upper blade, lower blade, and fairing in the middle. They have chosen just to paint the upper blade. If they pained the fairing in the middle then you'd have some paint appearing to go down the lower blade and it would have looked even more silly.

I like what Norwegian did, painted the lower and upper blade red and then made the middle fairing blue.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Thu May 04, 2017 9:18 pm

Malindo Air will take delivery of the first 737 MAX 8 on May 15:

https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/malindo ... -operator/
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Fri May 05, 2017 9:39 am

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Fri May 05, 2017 10:42 am

Looks like #2 and #4
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Fri May 05, 2017 4:43 pm

Exactly #1, #2 and #4 are undergoing rework, #3 is still up in the air and doing test flights in the area.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Sat May 06, 2017 1:12 pm

So I presume FAA almost give it green light for commercial flights?
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Sat May 06, 2017 1:25 pm

benbeny wrote:
So I presume FAA almost give it green light for commercial flights?

The FAA certified the Max 8 in early March.
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Sat May 06, 2017 2:12 pm

Polot wrote:
benbeny wrote:
So I presume FAA almost give it green light for commercial flights?

The FAA certified the Max 8 in early March.

Thanks for correction, apparently I was late in this
 
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX Production Thread - Part 1

Sat May 06, 2017 3:58 pm

Interesting development seems like N8703J is being ferried to New Chitose Japan through Anchorage .

No idea what's the reason yet . If anyone knows something more please do share

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