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Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:16 pm

With over 200 replies in Australian Aviation Thread Part 133 (by qf789 Nov 25 2015 in Civil Aviation) Australian Aviation Thread Part 134 is now open

In Part 133 we discussed

- Alliance purchase remaining F70 & F100 from Austrian
- VA to operate weekly CHC-RAR 25th June - 8th October 2016
- ACCC issues draft ruling approving QF/AA expanded alliance
- JQ A320 VH-VQG new decals promoting new peanuts movie
- BNE-NRT loads improve during September
- JQ starts first Q300 service in NZ
- rumours of BNE-HNL loads doing poorly on HA
- Will QF try again to align themselves with MH after EK and MH announce partnership
- JL signals that PER may be next to be serviced, QF codeshare
- MF outlines its intentions to expand to MEL & BNE
- JQ under investigation for miscalculating aircraft weight
- QF SYD-DPS starts, lightly loaded
- VA691 MEL-PER unusual flight path, flies over BME
- Status of T3 at PER
- JQ to fly operate services from AVV to HBA & ADL
- REX signs contract to operate Albany & Esperance
- EY ups stake in VA
- NH eyes PER as second Australian destination
- VA and MEL airport in discussions in regards to significant works at T3
- Inaugural NH service to SYD operated by R2D2 789
- QF's new Asian destination with the freed up A330 from MEL-HKG, no news yet
- UA's performance in Australia
- JQ's MEL-PER flights 14 out of 21 flights over the past week cancelled
- Woolworths to offer QFF points as an option instead of cashback rewards
- Freight capacity on East coast

Merry Christmas to everyone. Hope we have a bumper year in 2016 in Australian Aviation
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:31 pm

QF fleet update

VH-QPF returned to service on Friday after been in BNE maintenance for refurbs

http://www.theqantassource.com/qanta...300-vh-qpb-returns-from-hong-kong/

This brings a total of 7 A333 (VHQPA, QPB, QPC, QPD, QPE, QPF and QPI) and 8 A332 (VHEBA, EBB, EBE, EBF, EBJ, EBK, EBS & EBV)

There have been 10 738's refurbed so far, VHVXC, VXQ, VXR, VYB, VYG, VYH, VYJ, VZB, VZD, VZE
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:17 pm

Qantas released an update to the market today - expecting a $875-925million profit for first half of FY15-16. No doubt they have benefited massively from low fuel prices, but it is still an impressive result.

release below:



QANTAS GROUP MARKET UPDATE
SYDNEY, 15 December 2015: The Qantas Group today announced that it expects to report an Underlying Profit Before Tax1 in the range of $875 million to $925 million for the first six months of financial year 2016.
The expected $875 million to $925 million range represents a significant improvement in underlying earnings for the Qantas Group, and compares to an Underlying Profit Before Tax of $367 million in the first half of financial year 2015.
Qantas’ strong first half performance is attributable to the continued delivery of the $2 billion Qantas Transformation program, revenue growth, and the benefit from lower fuel prices which has been secured through the Group’s disciplined hedging program.
Alan Joyce, Chief Executive Officer of the Qantas Group, said the anticipated first half result reflects strong performances from each of Qantas’ core businesses.
“We’ve seen improved revenue in our domestic and international operations, reduced costs across the Group through the Qantas Transformation program, and expect another record half-year result from Qantas Loyalty,” said Mr Joyce.
“This strong performance is underpinned by our continued focus on delivering the best service for our customers in all of the markets we serve.”
The expected first half result includes the estimated $17 million non-cash negative impact of bond rate movements on employee provisions, and the approximately $25 million one-off impact on Jetstar Group earnings from volcanic activity in Bali during the period.
Qantas announces its first half results for financial year 2016 on 23 February 2016.


Link to release: http://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/med...ases/qantas-group-market-update-2/
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:29 pm

From last thread:

Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 184):
A couple of Australian aviation stories in the media lately:
Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 184):
NH looks to other Australian destinations (MEL and PER mentioned):
http://www.smh.com.au/business/aviat....html

With the length of time the NH bird sits in SYD between flights does anybody think there's a chance it might be used on a tag on flight to somewhere else?

[Edited 2015-12-14 15:39:52]
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Mon Dec 14, 2015 11:58 pm

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 3):
With the length of time the NH bird sits in SYD between flights does anybody think there's a chance it might be used on a tag on flight to somewhere else?

The only feasible place would be NZ, and there is already plenty of capacity there with EK/QF and VA/NZ. Much better off using a NZ codeshare rather than flying their own metal.

Will be interesting to see NH/QF duke it out on SYD-HND, they have identical flight times but quite a big difference in capacity (744 vs 789) especially with NH's premium layout on it's 789's.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:17 am

2 out of 3 JQ flights MEL-PER have been cancelled today as well, JQ 962 is operating while JQ972/976 are the flights cancelled
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Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:28 am

Quoting qf789 (Reply 5):
2 out of 3 JQ flights MEL-PER have been cancelled today as well, JQ 962 is operating while JQ972/976 are the flights cancelled

On another site (which I dare not link to for fear of a ban from the moderators) there are suggestions crewing issues have been a factor. Please note that posters on that site have not provided proof of their suggestions.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:45 am

Quoting qf789 (Reply 5):

I have noticed this a lot in the past 2 weeks as well.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Tue Dec 15, 2015 3:11 am

Quoting qf789 (Thread starter):
- Woolworths to offer QFF points as an option instead of cashback rewards
http://www.smh.com.au/business/retai...-for-shoppers-20151214-gln6rz.html

I wonder if this will make the "I'll stop using Everyday Rewards and switch to flybuys" group happy?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:22 am

SMH is reporting on flight path modelling for Badgerys Creek Airport with complaints that it may damage the World Heritage listing of the Blue Mountains. Personally I'm disappointed by the lack of aircraft gazing opportunities from home and work with the new airport, but I guess that's because Kingsford Smith ain't going away any time soon.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:51 am

Quoting allrite (Reply 9):
SMH is reporting on flight path modelling for Badgerys Creek Airport with complaints that it may damage the World Heritage listing of the Blue Mountains.

What an absolute load of crap. How on earth are properly managed descending aircraft going to impact on the World Heritage Area of the Blue Mountains? I mean the whole point of having an airport out West is to allow for the aggregation of aircraft over sparsely populated areas which is exactly why they would be aggregated over the Blue Mountains. This article is smh non-journalism at its finest and it doesn't state what impacts they're concerned about!
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:13 am

Quoting Sydscott (Reply 10):
What an absolute load of crap. How on earth are properly managed descending aircraft going to impact on the World Heritage Area of the Blue Mountains? I mean the whole point of having an airport out West is to allow for the aggregation of aircraft over sparsely populated areas which is exactly why they would be aggregated over the Blue Mountains. This article is smh non-journalism at its finest and it doesn't state what impacts they're concerned about!

What do you expect from that Rag of a newspaper they are just like the Age here left wing green loving idiots, if they wanted to build an airport right in the middle of the Simpson Dessert
they would be writing about how the jets would be a threat to the environment out there.
Seriously there has to be a balance found between environmental and progress because this is so out of kilter now to the Left.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:17 am

ANA 789 diverted to Cairns yesterday en route back to Japan. Assume it was medical.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:44 am

Thanks to the slightly wild weather around Sydney at the moment, there is currently extensive holding, and looks like several diversions to Melbourne, Canberra and Brisbane, including 2 A330s to Canberra so far.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:53 am

Quoting skyhawkmatthew (Reply 13):
Thanks to the slightly wild weather around Sydney at the moment, there is currently extensive holding, and looks like several diversions to Melbourne, Canberra and Brisbane, including 2 A330s to Canberra so far.

flightradar24 has made for some interesting viewing.

Quite a few planes doing many loops in the various holding patterns.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Wed Dec 16, 2015 1:27 am

Quoting skyhawkmatthew (Reply 13):
2 A330s to Canberra

1 of which is the Cebu Pacific from MNL... would be an interesting sight!
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:14 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 14):
flightradar24 has made for some interesting viewing.

As has liveatc......ATC asking for volunteers to line up and takeoff!

[Edited 2015-12-15 18:14:55]
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:07 am

Australia signs expanded air services agreement with Canada

http://australianaviation.com.au/201...ir-services-agreement-with-canada/
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Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:12 am

Quoting qf789 (Reply 17):

Australia signs expanded air services agreement with Canada

http://australianaviation.com.au/201...ir-services-agreement-with-canada/

That's quite an impressive increase.

I wonder whether YVR-BNE will now start at higher than 3 x weekly... and whether MEL might end up on the AC map again.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:22 am

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 18):
That's quite an impressive increase.

I wonder whether YVR-BNE will now start at higher than 3 x weekly... and whether MEL might end up on the AC map again.

*Fingers Crossed* Though I would expect it more likely to be a more seasonal route, at least initially. 3x weekly throughout the year and 5-7x weekly over the holiday peaks, until they can build a consistent daily service.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:31 am

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 18):
That's quite an impressive increase.

It lists the four gateways in Australia, but I'm not sure about the Canadian end - or is there only YVR?

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:44 am

Is any port beyond YVR feasible given the distancce?

I understand the QF 747s are weight restricted on the trip from Syd to YVR.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:46 am

Quoting timtam (Reply 21):
Is any port beyond YVR feasible given the distancce?

I understand the QF 747s are weight restricted on the trip from Syd to YVR.

The key question is whether or not carriers can use Los Angeles as a stopover point en route. The old bilateral did not allow for it, it will be interesting to see if this one does. Definitely a step in the right direction though!
 
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Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:02 am

Quoting timtam (Reply 21):
Is any port beyond YVR feasible given the distancce?


Agreements often allow for routes which may not - now - be feasible as a non-stop, but may become so, or with a tech stop.

NZ, for example, signed Open Skies with Brazil, even though the national airline does not presently have an aircraft that could fly non-stop GIG/GRU-AKL without significant weight restrictions.

SYD-YYC is about 700 k less than SYD-DFW. I don't know if an airline would have any interest in SYD-YYC, I'm just interested in what the bilateral allows.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:05 am

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 18):
I wonder whether YVR-BNE will now start at higher than 3 x weekly... and whether MEL might end up on the AC map again.

I don't really see much scope for immediate increases in the AC BNE flights or any need for a 3rd destination at this stage. I think it could have gone in at a higher frequency into BNE with the previous bi-lateral but chse to start conservatively to build its market.

Once they were ready to grow, one would think they would build the frequency on BNE-YVR before looking at MEL flights but stranger things have happened.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:45 am

Quoting mariner (Reply 20):

Depending what the 2000 MOU says (not available on the interwebs), the current agreement provides for Australian designation on YVR and one other port in Canada (to be nominated by Australia). I would suspect only YYC would ever get the Aussie nod.
 
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Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:08 am

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 25):
Depending what the 2000 MOU says (not available on the interwebs), the current agreement provides for Australian designation on YVR and one other port in Canada (to be nominated by Australia). I would suspect only YYC would ever get the Aussie nod.

Cheers - that's what I was looking for.

Calgary's a good fun city, but with a population of a million and change, it's tough to imagine non-stops SYD-YYC, nor any of the western provinces,which makes the "second city" clause moot, I guess, absent the old idea of SYD-LAX-YYZ.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:15 am

CA has just applied for daily CTU-SYD from June 2016 with A330-200. They just keep on coming.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:23 am

^^ Daily? That's crazy.

CTU is not a market that has performed that strongly yet for any longer haul flights. 3U has also flown MEL-CTU for years now and still remains at 3 x weekly and airlines like BA have appeared to struggle to get that market to really pay off yet.
 
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Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:54 pm

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 25):
Depending what the 2000 MOU says (not available on the interwebs), the current agreement provides for Australian designation on YVR and one other port in Canada (to be nominated by Australia). I would suspect only YYC would ever get the Aussie nod.
Quoting mariner (Reply 26):
I guess, absent the old idea of SYD-LAX-YYZ.

We don't yet know what was negotiated in terms of expanding the stopover rights. This would be one of the few agreements with Canada where both parties would want something and Australia had some leverage to push for a bit more freedom from the Canadian side. If we haven't used that to open LAX as a stopover point then, in my opinion, that's a bit dumb because it would be something both AC and QF could in the future use. That would make the second Australian designation as YYZ.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:29 pm

Quoting mariner (Reply 26):
it's tough to imagine non-stops SYD-YYC

I agree, but I guess it might depend who the Aussie carrier was and who their Canadian partners, if any, might be?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:37 pm

Looks like the 3 x weekly A330 flights which were upgraded to 744 on MEL-HKG will now go onto the MEL-SIN route (moves from 7 to 10 weekly).

QF037 MEL 1605-SIN 2215 ....567
Qf038 SIN 2335-MEL 0900+1 ....567

Thanks to judd77 on another forum for that schedule info.

Strange decision considering QF also has partner agreements with JQ and EK on the route, especially as the latter is moving to an A380 on MEL-SIN-DXB from March next year.

Being greedy I would have loved to see a new destination on the QF MEL network but good to see them add capacity here.

[Edited 2015-12-16 15:39:17]
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:44 am

Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 31):
Looks like the 3 x weekly A330 flights which were upgraded to 744 on MEL-HKG will now go onto the MEL-SIN route (moves from 7 to 10 weekly).

QF037 MEL 1605-SIN 2215 ....567
Qf038 SIN 2335-MEL 0900+1 ....567

Correct. According to Australian Aviation QF37/38 it is to meet growing demand from Asia. SQ is also looking at boosting capacity.

http://australianaviation.com.au/201...osts-melbourne-singapore-schedule/
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Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:19 am

I like what QF have been doing these days shifting around capacity.

It has certainly become far more strategic and adventurous in its capacity and destination management.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:26 am

Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 31):

Looks like the 3 x weekly A330 flights which were upgraded to 744 on MEL-HKG will now go onto the MEL-SIN route (moves from 7 to 10 weekly).

Well that was an anticlimax.

Odd that they are adding more capacity at the same time that EK are. If EK really need more capacity for MEL-DXB it would have made sense to add a second non-stop like SYD, given that they would still have a route stopping in Asia to mop up cargo demand. I therefore assumed that this upgauge was intended to increase capacity on SIN-DXB, and then MEL-SIN in conjunction with QF.
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Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:28 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 34):
Odd that they are adding more capacity at the same time that EK are. If EK really need more capacity for MEL-DXB it would have made sense to add a second non-stop like SYD, given that they would still have a route stopping in Asia to mop up cargo demand. I therefore assumed that this upgauge was intended to increase capacity on SIN-DXB, and then MEL-SIN in conjunction with QF.

I agree.

It seems a bit odd, but they must both have their reasons to do this. Maybe the numbers are stronger than it would appear at first glance.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:45 am

Quoting IndianicWorld (Reply 33):
I like what QF have been doing these days shifting around capacity.

Me too!

I think the messages they are giving the market are good as well.

The latest profit forecast announcement included a comment a long the lines. Even though our profits are good, we are still going to practice capacity discipline.

Although, a little boring, ultimately this good news for QF's shareholders, staff and business going forward.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:22 am

QF is really growing in Asia. The last 12 months they have:

*Daily BNE-NRT
*Extra 4x weekly SYD-HKG
*Extra weekly SYD-MNL
*Increased PER-SIN from 5x weekly to daily
*Upgauged some MEL-HKG from A330 to B744
*Extra 3x weekly MEL-SIN
 
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Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:18 am

Quoting vhebb (Reply 37):
QF is really growing in Asia. The last 12 months they have:

*Daily BNE-NRT
*Extra 4x weekly SYD-HKG
*Extra weekly SYD-MNL
*Increased PER-SIN from 5x weekly to daily
*Upgauged some MEL-HKG from A330 to B744
*Extra 3x weekly MEL-SIN

Admittedly some of the above is just restoring the service to previous levels (e.g. SYD-HKG was previously 2x daily, SIN-PER used to be daily) , but still, good that they are increasing capacity rather than decreasing.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:23 am

EY to fly 787-9 to PER from 1st June 2016 (arriving PER 2nd June). Will be operated by 2 class 787-9

http://www.ausbt.com.au/etihad-bring...787-9-onto-perth-abu-dhabi-flights
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:27 am

Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 38):

Agreed PER-SIN used to be 2 X daily A330..but then that was before everything Europe bound was sent via DXB.
 
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Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:52 am

Friendly reminder inaugural QF SYD-SFO service tomorrow  

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Fri Dec 18, 2015 12:07 am

QF is working on a partnership with Caltex for FF

http://www.ausbt.com.au/up-next-for-...el-deal-to-earn-points-at-the-pump
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Fri Dec 18, 2015 1:13 am

Anyone flown JL SYD-NRT either 772 or 77W in Y? Have found a great deal from AKL (QF across the ditch) and was wondering if anyone has had any experiences with JL. TIA

[Edited 2015-12-17 17:13:22]
 
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:03 am

[quote=SYDSpotter,reply=38][/quote

The PER-SIN flight the customers are loving. I was speaking to quiet a few Platinums On-Board and a few that have come back from SQ. which is nice.
On the 21DEC15 QF is operating the QF77 PER-SIN, but the aircraft doesn't return as the QF78, have no idea what it's doing after that, but a healthy load going up on both flights that day....QF71 being full..... As per usual.
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:12 am

Quoting JQflightie (Reply 44):

That's good to hear - hopefully there will be seasonal upgrades to the A330
 
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:14 am

Quoting WSTAKL (Reply 43):
was wondering if anyone has had any experiences with JL. TIA

It's been awhile but in the 2000s JAL was about the best in the business for service, good interiors (B743), just an all round good airline. Are their B772 &Ws 10 abreast? If not I'd certainly fly them today, even though I don't like B777s they are berable @ 9 abreast.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:06 am

Quoting JQflightie (Reply 44):
On the 21DEC15 QF is operating the QF77 PER-SIN, but the aircraft doesn't return as the QF78, have no idea what it's doing after that, but a healthy load going up on both flights that day....QF71 being full..... As per usual.

Perhaps a one off heading up to SIN for respray?

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:50 am

Quoting WSTAKL (Reply 43):

Not very recent, but I flew JL BNE-NRT-BNE back in 2009 on a 767. I thought that they were adequate but nothing special, the likes of CX, EK and EY are much better from my limited experience. That said, I wouldn't hesitate to fly them again if the price was right
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 134

Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:43 am

Quoting EK413 (Reply 47):

Not terribly sure, I was under the impression that we were restarting our B737s in TSV?
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