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Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:19 pm

Interesting article from Av Week making Richard Anderson person of the year. Love him or hate him he seems to be getting it right.

http://aviationweek.com/commercial-a...r-delta-air-lines-richard-anderson
 
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:11 pm

Quoting BravoOne (Thread starter):
Love him or hate him he seems to be getting it right.

The airline is arguably the most profitable in the world, so he deserves his plaudits. OTOH, such a successful global business hardly needs help from the government to succeed.
 
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:22 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
The airline is arguably the most profitable in the world, so he deserves his plaudits. OTOH, such a successful global business hardly needs help from the government to succeed.

I worked with him on a case years ago, he impressed me then as a very smart man.

But this can be an honor of dubious quality. As I recall, Av Week named Jeff Smisek as their "Person of the Year" a few years ago. It will a long time before Smisek's stench is gone from UAL.
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:12 pm

I hate him like nuts. He's quite smart but takes advantage if every carrier and doesn't care but solely for the profit. I would consider him a second smiskey.
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:29 pm

Quoting Lesfalls (Reply 3):
I would consider him a second smiskey.

Really? Isn't that going a little far? I mean Smisek drove UA into the ground (quality-wise), meanwhile Anderson is increasing the quality of Delta's product pretty well. You may not like Richard Anderson which is fine, but I wouldn't get too carried away with it.
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:30 pm

Quoting Lesfalls (Reply 3):
I hate him like nuts. He's quite smart but takes advantage if every carrier and doesn't care but solely for the profit. I would consider him a second smiskey.

Saying you hate someone is a strong statement usually saved for someone like Ben Laden or ISIS. Has Anderson done anything personally bad to you?
 
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 8:57 pm

Having worked with Richard Anderson both at NW and DL I can honestly say there is not another airline executive in the US that cares more about this industry, its long-term viability and its safety. He is approachable, easily answers questions, responds to any employee email and forwards things on to the appropriate department. He is also a nice guy.

One day I was on the ATL campus and had used my lunch break to visit the Delta Museum. The senior leadership offices are in a non-descript, unmarked building and Richards's office is easily visible. It was about to begin one of those ATL major thunderstorms and the skies were very dark, so of course as I was sprinting back to the training building the heavens opened. I took a short cut across the grass and he was sitting at his desk with all the office lights on. He saw me running and motioned for me to come inside and get out of the rain. I gladly accepted as I was about to get soaked. We chatted in the hall for a few minutes until the rain had let up and I was able to sprint back to class. He certainly didn't have to do that but that is just the kind of guy he is and why his employees are pretty much in agreement that he is very good at his job.
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:13 pm

Quoting Lesfalls (Reply 3):
He's quite smart but takes advantage if every carrier and doesn't care but solely for the profit.

Guess what, bud? He has to produce. As a person in his position, he has to answer to a lot of people. And, quite frankly, it is all about the profit…..employees' families are depending on him.
 
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:15 pm

Quoting lesfalls (Reply 3), "I hate him like nuts . . ."

Wow, lesfalls, have you ever even met Mr. Anderson? With a statement like that, your credibility and respectability with regard to this forum just went down to zero in my opinion.

I agree with DTWPurserBoy (Reply 6). Mr. Anderson is absolutely approachable, very personable, genuine, and very sincerely cares about his customers and every employee of Delta Air Lines.

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Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:19 pm

This article is hardly a flattering portrayal of RA, nor is it a character assassination. It makes for an interesting read.
 
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:20 pm

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
The airline is arguably the most profitable in the world, so he deserves his plaudits. OTOH, such a successful global business hardly needs help from the government to succeed.

Delta is doing well, but there have been missteps.

The pilot's contract was (IMO) an error on Delta management's part, and the pilots will end up with a significantly richer contract than what was offered (unless the travel industry hits a downturn.)

When the other groups see that richer contract, they will have doubts about their non-union status So either Delta will pony up some money or the unions will try it again and the other employees will be looking at what the pilots got and how they got it.

I believe that this whole ME3 issue has gone badly for Delta as well, and Richard is the face of that.

And the frequent flier elites are not enamored with Richard either, which does not matter in today's travel industry environment. Again should there be a downturn, Delta might need to provide better rewards.

I believe the new baggage linterlining policy will induce some ill will once it rolls out and folks feel the effects. I may shift some trips to AA so I don't have to pick up bags mid trip. Yes I know, many of you don't check bags, but I often travel for 2-3 weeks at a time and I need my stuff.  

And Delta won't interline at all with AA. Period.

Richard is very gracious and charming in person, and largely has been a very good leader for the company. But there are some caveats.

David

[Edited 2015-12-18 13:24:23]
 
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:26 pm

Richard Anderson is the best airline CEO since god knows when, he deserves all the kudos there is.
 
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:37 pm

Quoting e38 (Reply 8):
Wow, lesfalls, have you ever even met Mr. Anderson? With a statement like that, your credibility and respectability with regard to this forum just went down to zero in my opinion

You gotta give this guy a break. Sounds to be very young and full of himself. When he grows he to can be the CEO of an airline.
 
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:43 pm

Quoting Lesfalls (Reply 3):
He's quite smart but takes advantage if every carrier and doesn't care but solely for the profit.

As CEO, that's his job...
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:58 pm

Quoting Prost (Reply 9):
This article is hardly a flattering portrayal of RA, nor is it a character assassination. It makes for an interesting read.

Which is why it's probably true.

Quoting diverdave (Reply 10):
When the other groups see that richer contract, they will have doubts about their non-union status

No we won't.

Quoting diverdave (Reply 10):
And Delta won't interline at all with AA. Period.
AA was putting 5:1 on Delta. That's not interlining; that adding virtual capacity.

Richard expects great things from the people around him--and he leads by example. I have a hand written (and addressed) "thank you" note from Richard sitting on my desk. He took the time to personally thank me for something I had done. When the leadership teams serve the worker great things happen.

[Edited 2015-12-18 14:02:18]
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:05 pm

Quoting e38 (Reply 8):
Wow, lesfalls, have you ever even met Mr. Anderson? With a statement like that, your credibility and respectability with regard to this forum just went down to zero in my opinion.

Clearly he doesn't. Just another internet troll or Delta hater.

Quoting e38 (Reply 8):
I agree with DTWPurserBoy (Reply 6). Mr. Anderson is absolutely approachable, very personable, genuine, and very sincerely cares about his customers and every employee of Delta Air Lines.

   This is the general opinion of just about everyone I know at Delta that works with/has met Richard Anderson.

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 6):
Having worked with Richard Anderson both at NW and DL I can honestly say there is not another airline executive in the US that cares more about this industry, its long-term viability and its safety. He is approachable, easily answers questions, responds to any employee email and forwards things on to the appropriate department. He is also a nice guy.

  

Quoting aviationaware (Reply 11):
Richard Anderson is the best airline CEO since god knows when, he deserves all the kudos there is.

  

Quoting Moose135 (Reply 13):

Quoting Lesfalls (Reply 3):
He's quite smart but takes advantage if every carrier and doesn't care but solely for the profit.

As CEO, that's his job...

    

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Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:55 pm

Quoting aviationaware (Reply 11):
Richard Anderson is the best airline CEO since god knows when, he deserves all the kudos there is.

Let's not forget about Air Asia, EK, IAG or FR CEOs- they have also done a fantastic job.

If Cristoph Muller turns around MH - he also deserves an honourable mention.
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:22 pm

Quoting diverdave (Reply 10):
I believe the new baggage linterlining policy will induce some ill will once it rolls out and folks feel the effects. I may shift some trips to AA so I don't have to pick up bags mid trip. Yes I know, many of you don't check bags, but I often travel for 2-3 weeks at a time and I need my stuff.  

And Delta won't interline at all with AA. Period.

Agreed. There are places SkyTeam can't take you that require connecting to AA/EK/etc.

Quoting diverdave (Reply 10):
I believe that this whole ME3 issue has gone badly for Delta as well, and Richard is the face of that.

Agreed. They squandered a lot of political capital.

Quoting diverdave (Reply 10):
the unions will try it again and the other employees will be looking at what the pilots got and how they got it.

Unions trying to unionize any ununionized group in the airline business is always a sure bet.

Quoting diverdave (Reply 10):
The pilot's contract was (IMO) an error on Delta management's part, and the pilots will end up with a significantly richer contract than what was offered (unless the travel industry hits a downturn.)

With the newly reinstated aircraft order, it would appear the pilots won that round by calling the bluff.

Another one would be the huge hedging losses over the last few years. Despite all of that, WN/UA area clearly worse than DL and AA is an unknown as the merger has occupied them.

Quoting b727fa (Reply 14):
AA was putting 5:1 on Delta. That's not interlining; that adding virtual capacity.

I don't understand why buying tickets on DL was a bad thing. They had to pay with real money.
 
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Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:36 pm

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 17):

Let's not forget about Air Asia, EK, IAG or FR CEOs- they have also done a fantastic job.

If Cristoph Muller turns around MH - he also deserves an honourable mention.

Those other CEOs will have their turn if warranted.

Let's see what Muller does before nominating him.

Delta buys the airplanes that suit their needs. Remember they are still buying 739ERs.

Any CEO that looks out for his company and his employees is doing OK.

As for SkyMiles, what part of those who spend the most get rewarded the most. Casinos in Vegas comp the high rollers with suites and air travel. The comp the low rollers who might spend more time in the casino with watered drinks. Why should Delta or any other airline be different.

As far as product quality, when customers start flocking to airlines with wider seats, more leg room, free meals and other perks but higher prices, Delta will make those changes. At the present time, travelers are voting for cheap.
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:38 am

Quoting nikeherc (Reply 19):
As for SkyMiles, what part of those who spend the most get rewarded the most. Casinos in Vegas comp the high rollers with suites and air travel. The comp the low rollers who might spend more time in the casino with watered drinks. Why should Delta or any other airline be different.

It has run through my mind in the last few days if this is the beginning of the end of the frequent flyer system as we know it. From now on it will be revenue based as opposed to mileage. No upgrades.

I have heard since the day AA started the whole thing that every airline would love to dump frequent flyer programs but were afraid the competition would not respond in kind. I am not sure how they carry these balances on their books but at one point I know they were considered a liability.

It will be interesting to watch what the other majors do.
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Hats off to Mr. Anderson

In my opinion, the best CEO in the industry
 
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Quoting BravoOne (Thread starter):
Interesting article from Av Week making Richard Anderson person of the year.

As voted by Tim Clark and Akbar Al Baker     
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:15 am

Quoting MesaFlyGuy (Reply 4):

Yes I agree but the product to my point of view is still quite bad. The price I'm also paying to get a bag of peanuts in my ticket is not such a great product.

Quoting bobnwa (Reply 5):

Ok, I don't like him but not hate him. I don't like some of his moves especially where he continues to minimize costs(relally come on 1 Billion a year for the company is not Enough) and hides behind the government to get what he wants (from what I see but from what everyone says here I'm destined to be 100% wrong).

Quoting SkyTeamTriStar (Reply 7):

You mean his salary isn't big enough.

Quoting e38 (Reply 8):

So your saying that I am an idiot and should change my point of view by giving up what I think and agree with you.

Quoting BravoOne (Reply 12):

Thanks for your pleasing words. I feel much better after you telling me that. You really are motivating me to believe what I think and not what you think.
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Quoting Lesfalls (Reply 23):
The price I'm also paying to get a bag of peanuts in my ticket is not such a great product.

What are you getting on other carriers? AA doesn't even give peanuts, UA is only now rolling out free snacks, and WN (yes I know, not a legacy but still often comperable in price) gives peanuts and pretzels just like Delta.
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Quoting b727fa (Reply 14):
AA was putting 5:1 on Delta. That's not interlining; that adding virtual capacity.

Not exactly accurate, and Delta was being well compensated for it.
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Quoting MesaFlyGuy (Reply 24):

Your right but I'm comparing to standards abroad(sorry that I didn't say earlier).
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Yep. I love working for him and have the utmost respect for him, his leadership style and the example he sets for the workgroups at DL. Top Notch guy.
 
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:52 am

Quoting Lesfalls (Reply 23):
Ok, I don't like him but not hate him. I don't like some of his moves especially where he continues to minimize costs(relally come on 1 Billion a year for the company is not Enough

That's capitalism. It sounds like you like socialism.
 
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:06 am

Quoting enilria (Reply 18):
Unions trying to unionize any ununionized group in the airline business is always a sure bet.

So far, the union drives have been abject failures on the part of the union (I'm looking at YOU, IAM). The IAM is still subject to investigation by the DOJ for election fraud. Since the employees (except for the pilots) have received profit sharing AND a 14.5% raise, do you really think what the pilots receive is going to change their minds?

Quoting Lesfalls (Reply 23):
So your saying that I am an idiot and should change my point of view by giving up what I think and agree with you.

If you're wrong, you're wrong.

Quoting Lesfalls (Reply 23):
and hides behind the government to get what he wants (from what I see but from what everyone says here I'm destined to be 100% wrong).

????? Mind explaining this odd statement?
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:19 am

Quoting mayor (Reply 29):
Since the employees (except for the pilots) have received profit sharing AND a 14.5% raise, do you really think what the pilots receive is going to change their minds?

Of course, money is the only thing that the above and below wing employees should be happy and satisfied with.....
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:41 am

Quoting mayor (Reply 29):
So far, the union drives have been abject failures on the part of the union (I'm looking at YOU, IAM). The IAM is still subject to investigation by the DOJ for election fraud.

Actually, the entire process is under investigation and DL is just as likely to be subject to investigation as the IAM is.
 
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Quoting ASFlyer (Reply 31):
Actually, the entire process is under investigation and DL is just as likely to be subject to investigation as the IAM is.

EXCEPT that DL and it's management NEVER had possession of the cards, forged or otherwise......they were in the hands of the IAM, the entire time and the union made a video out of that fact and their people delivering then to the NMB.
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I could never work for a man with a very prideful attitude such as Anderson's. So no matter what DL's accomplishments, he would never win my "person" of the year. For someone to be named for that distinction, loving yourself more than others and thinking you're a superior person is an automatic disqualification. But since this article doesn't care about personal character, you still can make a compelling case he shouldn't win. Much of the competition has caught DL on the business side. His company isn't set apart from the rest--except for creating strife and contention within the organization and with others in the industry. Why should that be rewarded? It was one thing to be prideful when DL was a clear step ahead operationally a couple years ago. It's another to continue with it when you're not. Now they're just another fish in the pond, except this fish doesn't make friends, only enemies. The RA likers will hate this post, but the truth hurts sometimes.
 
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:16 am

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 33):

And since most (99.9%) of your posts have been anti-DL since I first saw you posting on here, your credibility stinks. All I have to do is see that it is you that posted something to know how it's going to read.
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Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 33):
but the truth hurts sometimes.

Not the truth, just your (humble?) opinion.
 
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Quoting mayor (Reply 32):
EXCEPT that DL and it's management NEVER had possession of the cards, forged or otherwise......they were in the hands of the IAM, the entire time and the union made a video out of that fact and their people delivering then to the NMB.

EXCEPT that who had possession of the cards isn't necessarily the issue. The signatures on some of the cards turns out to be an issue it sounds like, and that could easily have been done by someone outside of the IAM to skew the results and cause exactly the situation that currently exists. I mean, we can go on and on about this, and I know we've discussed it. You refuse to believe that DL would ever interfere in a union election (despite having been found guilty of it in the past). I don't think the IAM is spotless but you're insinuation is that they're being investigated and they're not - at least not any more or less than DL is.
 
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Quoting ASFlyer (Reply 36):
The signatures on some of the cards turns out to be an issue it sounds like, and that could easily have been done by someone outside of the IAM to skew the results and cause exactly the situation that currently exists

Delta secretly orchestrated a massive conspiracy to inject fraudulent signatures into the mix by having fake people sign cards that were given to actual union members, then kept by the union, then submitted to the NMB? And this hasn't leaked? No whistelblower collected millions by showing the conspiracy? And not one person involved breached operational security by writing some dumb email that suddenly showed up in a public place?

Anything is possible. But some things are more likely than others. Unions enjoy a very favored status under the laws of this country. For the NMB and other labor authorities to take the action they did, there had to be a pretty strong case of misconduct. I'm not saying that some shenanigans won't be found, because they could be. But it isn't as likely as the alternative.
 
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:35 am

Quoting Lesfalls (Reply 3):
I would consider him a second smiskey.

Smisek ran his company so badly that he's now out of a job, whereas Anderson has made his company a better place.

Whatever you might think about Richard Anderson as a person, he is not a second Smisek.

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Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:56 pm

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 33):
I could never work for a man with a very prideful attitude such as Anderson's.

Right. Based on your profile you're from MN. Having grown up there, "Thou shall not be prideful" is the 11th Commandment of the Lutheran (Scandinavian Lutheran) church. Traffic Lights are needed in lieu of stop signs as the signs create traffic jams (you go first, no you go first, no you go first....and on, and on).

RA is from Texas. They're a prideful bunch.

What you fail to realize is that his attitude (boasting of DL's accomplishments) is infectious within the company. We also realize it sets an expectation. While we're proud of our accomplishments, his comments remind us to not rest on our laurels. He's a smart guy and knows how to motivate. One of my take-aways from my college management courses is that a leader motivates his/her workforce to accomplish the organization's goals. IMO, he does that and does it well. I've worked in organizations (non-DL) where employees would routinely revile the CEO in private conversation. That is not the norm at DL.

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 33):
His company isn't set apart from the rest--except for creating strife and contention within the organization and with others in the industry.

It was one thing to be prideful when DL was a clear step ahead operationally a couple years ago. It's another to continue with it when you're not.


"Strife and Contention within the organization"? Huh? Uh, no. Wrong (again).

Right. Who do you think wrote the playbook? The likes of AA/UA are realizing that can't just cancel when it's operationally convenient. They're worried about saving their corporate contracts.

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Sat Dec 19, 2015 2:58 pm

Quoting MSPNWA (Reply 33):
I could never work for a man with a very prideful attitude such as Anderson's. So no matter what DL's accomplishments, he would never win my "person" of the year. For someone to be named for that distinction, loving yourself more than others and thinking you're a superior person is an automatic disqualification. But since this article doesn't care about personal character, you still can make a compelling case he shouldn't win. Much of the competition has caught DL on the business side. His company isn't set apart from the rest--except for creating strife and contention within the organization and with others in the industry. Why should that be rewarded? It was one thing to be prideful when DL was a clear step ahead operationally a couple years ago. It's another to continue with it when you're not. Now they're just another fish in the pond, except this fish doesn't make friends, only enemies. The RA likers will hate this post, but the truth hurts

Other than yourself saying it, I don't see anyone else agreeing with you. I am ex NW and now a DL retiree and want to say you are totally wrong. Do you just sit there every day waiting for a chance to blast Anderson on this board. A pathetic attempt to say the least.
 
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:31 pm

Quoting NWAESC (Reply 40):

Finally. Now we know MSPNWA's true identity.

Is she the same one who writes the pro-AS/antii-DL articles for that rag....the Puget Sound Business Journal?
 
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:39 pm

MSPNWA must really miss the old days of Steven Rothmeier, Al Checci, Gary Wilson, Donald Dasburg, etc... Every labor group disgruntled and pitted against each other, not to mention management. The occasional trips to the unemployment office to collect your benefits during frequent strikes. Compensation that never exceeded 'industry standard' after years of struggle. Not to mention our good buddies at Teamsters, PFAA (R.I.P.), AFA,AMFA, and the IAM.

Sure, we weren't "prideful". It had nothing to do with Lutherans .It had more to do with working for a company that, at best, strived for mediocrity in customer service and was constantly being referred to by media and the public as "Northworst". Not 48 hours would go by without the Minneapolis Star/Tribune dragging NWA through the mud for some reason or another.

There were many, many, wonderful people at NWA. They were a good employer and provided me with a livelihood for decades and the opportunity to have many wonderful experiences in my life. For that I remain eternally grateful. And, no matter what, I always took pride in MY level of customer service.

That being said, take off your rose colored glasses when you look back at NWA.

Kudos to you Mr. Anderson and al my Delta colleagues!

[Edited 2015-12-19 07:53:36]

[Edited 2015-12-19 07:58:32]
 
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 4:35 pm

Quoting aa777lvr (Reply 43):
Is she the same one who writes the pro-AS/antii-DL articles for that rag....the Puget Sound Business Journal?

Maybe? I honestly don't know. I try to avoid anything that comes out of SEA...

Quoting global1 (Reply 44):
Donald Dasburg, etc

Pedantry alert: It's John Dasburg.

Quoting global1 (Reply 44):
Not 48 hours would go by without the Minneapolis Star/Tribune dragging NWA through the mud for some reason or another.

Every newspaper dumps on the hometown carrier...
"Nothing ever happens here, " I said. "I just wait."
 
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 4:48 pm

Sorry, my bad. Don, John, whatever...cretins most of them. No concern for employees whatsoever.

As far as media is concerned, not so in Atlanta.

In any case, Northwest is dead. Has been for years now. It's never coming back. Let her Rest In Peace and move on.
 
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 4:53 pm

Agreed. The AJC here in ATL seems very resonanable on its coverage of the local companies (DL, UPS, Home Depot, Chick Fil A, etc).
 
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:01 pm

Quoting NWAESC (Reply 40):
ATW's Karen Walker throws shade:

http://m.atwonline.com/blog/what-do-...eltas-richard-anderson-have-common

Yup, she's none too happy, after having been called out by Peter Carter (Delta Counsel) on her poor editorial piece in ATW, opining about why DL was canceling ATL-DXB, but without many facts to back her views up.
 
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Richard Anderson - Aviation Week’s Person of the Year 2015

Sat Dec 19, 2015 5:32 pm

Quoting BravoOne (Thread starter):
Interesting article from Av Week making Richard Anderson person of the year. Love him or hate him he seems to be getting it right.

Too bad he left Continental Airlines before Bethune arrived and picked Smisek. Maybe Anderson was responsible for all the Continental/Northwest and Continental/Delta merger talks.

Anyway, he is firing all ignitors at Delta. Congratulations on being named Airline Person Of The Year.
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