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Irish 22/15: Sleighrides And Snowballs

Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:52 pm

Good evening everyone, and seasons greetings one and all!

With just under two weeks left in 2015, we can look forward to 2016 with a lot of confidence. 2015 has seen us reach pre-recession highs and Dublin Airport has reached record figures for 2015 and Shannon has had a very good year. Cork can look forward to a good 2016, with some new flights announced and perhaps the highlight ... the Norwegian flight to BOS (though this remains subject to US government approval).

Some highlights of 2015:
- Growing traffic numbers
- Cityjet orders SSJs, the first Russian passenger jets ordered by an Irish carrier
- More new routes across the board. New Ethiopian flight to LAX, new Aer Lingus flights announced to BDL, LAX and IAD.
- Work starts in earnest on new DUB runway project
- New aviation policy launched
- Norwegian announces first direct flight from Cork to the US
- AC Rouge announces increase in DUB flights for 2016, while LH to go daily to MUC

All in all, it's been a good year for Irish aviation and 2016 promises to be even better. More importantly, of course, this growth was achieved safely and nearly 30m used Irish airports (and millions more flew though Irish airspace) without a single fatality or injury; long may that continue.

Here's the link to the previous thread, if anyone wants to refer back:
Irish 21/15: Blow, Blow, Thou Winter Wind! (by kaitak Dec 5 2015 in Civil Aviation)
 
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:00 pm

Biggest highlight of the year was the sale of Aer Lingus to IAG.
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RE: Irish 22/15: Sleighrides And Snowballs

Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:17 pm

How could I miss that! Yes, quite right!
 
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:28 pm

Can we start early with predictions of highlights in 2016?


- Aer Lingus joins OneWorld.
- Aer Lingus orders new wide-body aircaft.
- Aer Lingus announces MIA!      


Happy holidays everyone!   
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RE: Irish 22/15: Sleighrides And Snowballs

Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:32 pm

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
More new routes across the board. New Ethiopian flight to LAX, new Aer Lingus flights announced to BDL, LAX and IAD.

Have ET made any changes to their DUB-LAX schedule in light of EI launching the route?
 
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:37 pm

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
- Cityjet orders SSJs, the first Russian passenger jets ordered by an Irish carrier

This for me was one of the more interesting announcements we had in Irish Aviation.

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So many flights in and out of Ireland for me this year and the award for best experience has to go to Emirates. I finally got to fly the DUB-DXB route and was really impressed. I actually just realised I never posted a mini review.

So here are a few pics :


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The inflight entertainment system was impressive but I mostly watched the moving map when I was not sleeping. The crew were excellent and service flawless. Departing T2 DUB at that time in the evening is a dream and no crowds. It makes the check in/security/boarding all very smooth and stress free.

Also impressive were the loads in all classes. I can see why they very quickly became the choice for many premium and leisure travellers out of Ireland. Fingers crossed we get the A380 after Summer 2016. I would certainly be on it.

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I am looking forward to the expansion of Greek routes from Ireland for 2016 also. FR and A3 to ATH will be great to have and also still being looked over are two new Island routes. Fingers crossed.

All in all 2016 is looking very interesting for Irish Aviation and Im sure we are not done with route announcements yet  
 
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RE: Irish 22/15: Sleighrides And Snowballs

Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:50 pm

Quoting SURFER (Reply 205):

Have never been but it's a place even before the current problems that would never appeal to me. I think Turkey will see a dip from Ireland next summer as well. EI are finalizing their schedules at the minute and when I give a quick update it will show Irish people looking closer to home next summer.

Quoting 321neo (Reply 4):

No and I wouldn't expect any changes. EI have started a radio advertising campaign for LAX recently.

[Edited 2015-12-19 13:51:44]
 
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:13 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 4):

No changes expected by ET . They are not worried about EI coming into the market. They will still undercut EI by a wide margin in J class and have their small followers ex DUB and LAX. ADD-LAX is their main money maker although they have been surprised by the volume of premium ex DUB traffic they picked up. In part to do with their membership of Star Alliance.

EI will cater to the mass market Irish/US traveller down the back and its more corporate leaning ''guests'' up front. Quite a bit of transfer traffic from the EU network too.

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Not too much more to say on Turkey. Events within the country and Syria will determine the effects for Summer 2016.As I mentioned in previous threads the trend of Irish tourists are ''safe'' destinations like Spain ,Portugal,Greece,Italy,Malta etc.. the forward booking trend for Summer 2016 seems to reinforce this also. Unless EI buck the trend which I highly doubt this will be the case also. Dublin based tour operators will be make or break for the DUB-ADB route next Summer !
 
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:22 pm

It's been a great year for sure! How about a DUB-CPT 2/3 times a week next winter for EI to use some spare capacity, the amount of traffic from the UK down there in the Northern hemisphere winter is incredible, chance to test the power of Aer Lingus Regional feeder power?
 
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RE: Irish 22/15: Sleighrides And Snowballs

Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:39 pm

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 8):
-You never know, they should announce 2 new routes for 2017.

Going to say no MIA and possibly only one route in 2017 with increased capacity on existing.
 
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:44 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 10):
Going to say no MIA

Of course you do.
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Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:44 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 6):
EI have started a radio advertising campaign for LAX recently.

Indeed they have, promoting one-way fares from €365. Meanwhile, one can easily find a DUB-LAX return fare with ET for around the €450-500 mark.

Quoting Eagleboy (Reply 8):
I can't see OW happening till 2017 at the earliest.

In a recent interview, the head of AA for Ireland & UK said that EI's entry into the alliance would be in the latter half of 2016, and is being sponsored by BA. While it may take longer for full incorporation into the AA/BA joint venture, things are very busy behind the scenes, with developments such as the implementation of code sharing having already been initiated.
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:02 am

Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 9):

It's been a great year for sure! How about a DUB-CPT 2/3 times a week next winter for EI to use some spare capacity

I dont see this as a money spinner for EI to be honest. Of course they wanted to start it some years back but crewing costs made it a no go. Even the LTU Winter charters lost money and they filled the A330s. If they go for it they are very brave.
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:57 am

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 10):
Going to say no MIA and possibly only one route in 2017 with increased capacity on existing.

Sounds less exciting more more likely.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 13):
I dont see this as a money spinner for EI to be honest. Of course they wanted to start it some years back but crewing costs made it a no go.

Cant see crewing costs being a factor. Its the time of excuse used by mgmt. Sure 10 years ago EI Mgmt were trying to get flight crew to sign up to a new DUB-CPT by using a pic of a beach front hotel.
 
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RE: Irish 22/15: Sleighrides And Snowballs

Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:22 am

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
announced to BDL, LAX and IAD.

Assume you meant EWR instead of IAD.
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Just came across this somewhat concerning tweet this evening from the Public Affairs Editor at the Sunday Business Post re: 2nd runway at DUB

"Dublin Airport growth potential threatened as new runway plans hit by serious planning Catch 22. Details in @sundaybusiness"

The story features on the front cover of the newspaper with the heading "Dublin Airport expansion plans in jeopardy".

https://twitter.com/Fearghaloc/status/678345877463965697
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:32 am

BFS-EWR seems to be doing really well through the winter. I have been looking and most days there are no more than 10 seats left both ways.

I don't know how that compares to the typical year.
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RE: Irish 22/15: Sleighrides And Snowballs

Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:52 am

Quoting frostyj (Reply 16):

What method are you using to check the numbers ?
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:16 am

Good morning everybody,
although I have followed this forum for quite some time, I only joined up last week. I have followed the Irish threads with great interest and I must say, I'm very impressed with the development of Irish aviation. I must admit though, that I started flying into Dublin in the late sixties, so there has been time for development.
After working for 44 years at an airport where politicians make every development project impossible or at least manage to delay it by years, I can only admire the way development at DUB seems to be welcomed by politicians and population. You seem to tolerate even scheduled fuelstops ( ET ) for which the are no direct benefits for the local economy ( except DAA ). What puzzles me is this : do you come up aginst any kind of opposition to this development by environmentalists, green party, local population in the airport neighbourhood ( Swords, Ballymun etc ) ? How are the resulting noise and pollution problems dealt with in Ireland ?
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:31 am

Quoting hynithuchi (Reply 19):
What puzzles me is this : do you come up aginst any kind of opposition to this development by environmentalists, green party, local population in the airport neighbourhood ( Swords, Ballymun etc ) ? How are the resulting noise and pollution problems dealt with in Ireland ?

It's interesting you ask this question, because a story has just broken this weekend related to planning issues at DUB!

Grounded: Dublin Airport expansion plans in jeopardy

Huge pressure to increase capacity at airport as traffic set to grow beyond 25 million passengers

Dublin Airport’s proposed new runway is under threat, as planning restrictions mean that there will be fewer morning rush hour flights once it is built.

http://www.businesspost.ie/grounded-...rport-expansion-plans-in-jeopardy/

It seems that a new planning application will need to to be made in order to avoid the restrictions on early morning flights.

[Edited 2015-12-20 02:34:36]
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:00 am

Quoting 321neo (Reply 20):

Serms some fool was reading pprune where we had a little discussion about the conditions of the new runway.

Top quality journalism!!!!!
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:40 am

Quoting frostyj (Reply 21):

That wont give you an accurate idea sadly.
 
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RE: Irish 22/15: Sleighrides And Snowballs

Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:03 pm

Quoting frostyj (Reply 16):
I have been looking and most days there are no more than 10 seats left both ways.
Quoting OA260 (Reply 17):
What method are you using to check the numbers ?
Quoting frostyj (Reply 21):
The app.

What app?
Airlines dont give out too much info on seat availability/load factor on specific flgihts/days.
You need industry access to get details, even then you might not be able to access some info.
 
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RE: Irish 22/15: Sleighrides And Snowballs

Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:04 pm

Quoting hynithuchi (Reply 19):
I can only admire the way development at DUB seems to be welcomed by politicians and population. You seem to tolerate even scheduled fuelstops ( ET ) for which the are no direct benefits for the local economy ( except DAA ). What puzzles me is this : do you come up aginst any kind of opposition to this development by environmentalists, green party, local population in the airport neighbourhood ( Swords, Ballymun etc ) ? How are the resulting noise and pollution problems dealt with in Ireland ?

DUB's location is good as approaches to current main runway have next to no residential housing as it's not allowed. The new runway did have some opposition as you would expect as it will affect some people however it was never anything significant. Lots of people from Swords work at the airport so it's really in their interests which helps. IAA have conditions in place to minimize noise and after Swords and a few seaside towns a lot of land in North Dublin is restricted from major development.

I don't see fuel stopovers as a problem as they don't require stands and don't impact on operations at all so if you can make money along the way why not.

Our Green Party went with the economic downturn!
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:01 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 25):
Our Green Party went with the economic downturn!

Well, a bit like here, but unfortunately ( at least for GVA airport )if the Green Party is on the decline here, it's simply because all other parties now also like to show a shade of green in order to attract the former Green votes.

I'm aware of Dublin Airport's location which cannot be compared to GVA, but I'm positively surprised at the lack of serious opposition. Good for DUB and I hope you can keep up this kind of development.
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:49 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 12):
In a recent interview, the head of AA for Ireland & UK said that EI's entry into the alliance would be in the latter half of 2016, and is being sponsored by BA.

That's a nice nugget of information! If it is in the latter half of the year it could be around the start of the Winter schedule.
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:09 pm

Shannon Airport €20m air cargo plan drops to earth

In 2012, the Dublin Airport Authority signed a heads of agreement with international group Lynx to establish the hub at Shannon.

This followed the two sides entering a memorandum of understanding in 2009 to explore jointly the feasibility of developing the cargo hub.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/busines...go-plan-drops-to-earth-371788.html
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:32 pm

INCREASE IN TRANSATLANTIC PASSENGERS THROUGH SHANNON AIRPORT

Over 312,000 people have flown to and from Shannon Airport on transatlantic flights in the first nine months of the year.
New CSO figures show an increase in the number of passengers travelling to Boston, New York's JFK Airport and to Philadelphia.
However, the number of passengers to Newark and to Chicago have dropped.
Despite this, the total number of passengers on flights to North America is up by 2.5%.
The transatlantic markets are seen as key by local tourism providers, with US visitors typically spending longer in Ireland than their European counterparts.

http://www.clare.fm/news/increase-tr...passengers-through-shannon-airport

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Christmas 'ruined' for Belfast airport staff hit by payment errors

Up to 40 security staff at Belfast City Airport are facing a cash-strapped Christmas after being paid hundreds of pounds short for the past three months.

Many of the security workers lost out on more than £1,000, with some of them forced to max out their credit cards just to cover monthly bills.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...it-by-payment-errors-34300127.html
 
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:05 am

Quoting 321neo (Reply 20):
It seems that a new planning application will need to to be made in order to avoid the restrictions on early morning flights.

That article is Sindo journo sensationalist nonsense. Its a well known fact the planning application needs amending. The DAA aren't totally incompetent not to have copped that. Some sort of compromise will happen. The North Dublin constituency is politically too toxic to p**s off by not allowing the airport (and jobs) to grow.
 
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:16 am

Aer Lingus A320neo looking good!

http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p578/Kev_Andrew/800x600_1450367984_A320neo_Aer_Lingus_zpseaoe6ymg.jpg

IAG have firmed up options for 15 aircraft, they haven't specified which airlines in the group will use them but Airbus released renderings for all of them.

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Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:23 am

What routes will that be used on?
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:09 pm

Quoting frostyj (Reply 31):

If they do indeed come into the EI fleet they would be used on the whole European network. Hopefully they would put the Shamrock on the sharklets too.
 
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:15 pm

Terminals in two of the State’s airports are to get facelifts over the coming weeks.

Dublin Airport Authority has hired Glenbeigh Construction to carry out work on the ground floor of its Terminal One building, part of an overall refurbishment that will cost €10 million.

Meanwhile, Shannon has taken on Clare company M Fitzgibbon Contractors for renovations to the mid-western airport’s terminal building for which the local council recently granted permission.

The work in Dublin will be on the ground floor of the terminal – the arrivals area – and will take in food and drink outlets and public seating. It will also increase the commercial space available.

Shannon is carrying out a floor-to-ceiling refurbishment focused on gates one to five which includes the arrivals hall, transit lounges and the departure gate areas. The work will employ 25 to 30 people.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/t...irports-to-get-facelifts-1.2472999
 
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:19 pm

Quoting frostyj (Reply 31):
What routes will that be used on?

Any current A32x route no doubt, and perhaps short Canadian routes.
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:11 pm

Brilliant! I have a friend who's a short Canadian - she'll be delighted with that!
 
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:26 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 32):

Why? What's the point in getting the neo if they're just going to use it on short routes?
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:33 pm

Quoting frostyj (Reply 36):
Why? What's the point in getting the neo if they're just going to use it on short routes?

I think EI routes all aircraft across the network, fairly indiscriminately. The A320neo may appear on DUB-LPL, for example, but later in the day do a longer run down to the canaries. I think the A321neo is all but certain for EI, 4-6 of them are likely to be in long-haul configuration.
 
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:51 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 35):

   
Quoting frostyj (Reply 36):

As stated by Brian it will be on random routes along with longer EU sectors. We may also see the L/H config on them too just like the A330 heads down to AGP FAO in peak season. Also like IB do with their Midhaul config when needed.
 
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:04 pm

Quoting frostyj (Reply 36):

Beleive it or not shot sectors still cost money to operate, At some stage the while shoet haul fleet will be NEO aircraft.

I cant link right now but Stobart is likely going to be sold early next year after returning to profit. Article in Irish Times if somebody can link.
 
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:42 pm

When are EI due to launch AerSpace and on which routes?
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:48 pm

Quoting EIRules (Reply 40):

It was due Q4 so I guess Q1 2016 now unless there is a further delay.
 
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:10 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 35):
I have a friend who's a short Canadian - she'll be delighted with that!

Fares will be 34.8% more expensive for taller Canadians.

Quoting frostyj (Reply 36):
What's the point in getting the neo if they're just going to use it on short routes?

There will be extra legroom seats for longer people.
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:15 pm

Quoting BestWestern (Reply 42):
Quoting frostyj (Reply 36):What's the point in getting the neo if they're just going to use it on short routes?

It's the same as for the 757; it will be able to serve places like BDL and others in the north east and eastern Canada, which are not big enough markets for the 330, or indeed (as with the JFK day flight), they want to add extra flights for Business Pax.

It would also help NI too; I could see EI doing BFS-BOS/YYZ/PHL/YUL/YYZ in the fullness of time. The 757s are only ever intended to be transitional aircraft, dipping the corporate toes in new markets. Once they're happy with the results (and they seem to be so far), they can get something for long haul ... well, you know what I mean!
 
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:28 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 43):
I could see EI doing BFS-BOS/YYZ/PHL/YUL/YYZ

IMHO that probably won't happen. Same goes for SNN, ORK. If anything, these airports may get a new route or two, such as ORK-DUS, however most significant capacity growth will be ex-DUB.

BHD, ORK and SNN are non-core locations for IAG.
 
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:30 pm

Belfast International is our main airport.
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:44 pm

Quoting frostyj (Reply 45):

BFS will be mostly LCC growth in 2016. Take FR for example they realise the market that BFS is so expect some nice cheapo flights to European destinations to be launched.
 
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:19 pm

Dublin has achieved 1m transfer passengers in 2015!

With EI increasing its own t/a capacity by 17% next year, it looks like that growth can only continue!

Interesting also to see that the DAA's press release also refers to the "DUB HUB" - a term we've been using on these threads for many years!
 
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RE: Irish 22/15: Sleighrides And Snowballs

Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:53 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 47):
Interesting also to see that the DAA's press release also refers to the "DUB HUB" - a term we've been using on these threads for many years!

They've used the term to name a interesting new terminal connection tool as well!



https://daa-transfers.appspot.com
 
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RE: Irish 22/15: Sleighrides And Snowballs

Mon Dec 21, 2015 9:05 pm

Quoting kaitak (Reply 47):
"DUB HUB"

Earlier this year they even had some advertising in the Terminals with that logo.
 
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RE: Irish 22/15: Sleighrides And Snowballs

Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:53 am

Quoting 321neo (Reply 44):

IMHO that probably won't happen. Same goes for SNN, ORK. If anything, these airports may get a new route or two, such as ORK-DUS, however most significant capacity growth will be ex-DUB.

BHD, ORK and SNN are non-core locations for IAG.

I think the capacity of the A320 may just be too large for any new European destinations from BHD/BFS, ORK or SNN. However if they were ever to acquire one of the regional jet types, then additional European routes from these airports might become viable. Sadly however, I suspect that this would not be high in EI/IAG's list of priorities.
 
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RE: Irish 22/15: Sleighrides And Snowballs

Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:23 am

Quoting frostyj (Reply 45):
Belfast International is our main airport.

Given the recent legal spat between Aer Lingus and BFS, it is unlikely that they will want to do business there again. BHD is a slowly expanding base for them, and whilst the runway length doesn't permit anything bigger than an A320 or 321 to the continent, it would be possible, if they deemed the market to be there, for the new A321NeoLR to fly BHD-SNN-the States. A short stop in Shannon for fuel, picking up passengers and using pre-clearance would be an attractive way to do things, and Mr Ambrose (le grande fromage at BHD) has mentioned the transatlantic word before..

I assume if the entire thing was sold under one flight number (i.e. it's not possible to just book BHD-SNN), it could avail of the lower APD deal that United currently gets in BFS??)

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