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Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:48 pm

Just saw this:

http://news.yahoo.com/malaysias-firs...t-airline-takes-off-182332429.html

Article quote:

"Malaysia's first Islamic-compliant airline Rayani Air began operations Sunday with its maiden flight taking off from the capital to the resort island of Langkawi, local media reported.

In-flight meals served on board its flights are completely halal, with alcohol consumption strictly prohibited.

Muslim flight crew must don the hijab while non-Muslim crew are to be decently dressed, managing director Jaafar Zamhari told reporters.

There will also be prayer recitals before take-off."
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:09 pm

Will everyone have to pray or just the pilot?

Hey if their is a market for it then fair play to them, I'm not in the slightest religious but if someone want to practice their religion I'm all for that
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:14 pm

Ah, welcome to my no-fly list.

I wouldn't feel safe being piloted by someone who doesn't believe he's fully in control.
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:25 pm

Quoting dc9northwest (Reply 3):
I wouldn't feel safe being piloted by someone who doesn't believe he's fully in control.

Are they flying Airbuses??   
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:32 pm

Sounds like Iran Air, nothing wrong.
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:42 pm

It's too bad really - Saudi funded extremism is taking over what used to be a relatively moderate, open country. Malaysia is a hostile place for non-muslims from what I hear.
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:45 pm

Well, there is that pre-recorded prayer being playing on all EY flights, too. So why not? It does not do any harm to any non-muslim. If people "need" these things to get on an airplane and if the market is large enough in Malaysia, why not start such an airline...

Will there be also seperated seating for males and females? Or other things that sound "unusual" to non-muslims?
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:47 pm

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 6):

Obviously you have never been there otherwise wouldnt have posted this, its one of the most liberal muslim states in the world, almost un-Islamic.
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:49 pm

Some Muslim EK pilots say the prayer while doing the PA before take off. Nothing scary at all people!!!
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:49 pm

Quoting trex8 (Reply 4):
Are they flying Airbuses??

Nope. 737-400 according to Wiki and as in a photo of the model in this link:

http://www.malaysiandigest.com/front...ir-to-begin-operations-sunday.html

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Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 6):
It's too bad really - Saudi funded extremism is taking over what used to be a relatively moderate, open country. Malaysia is a hostile place for non-muslims from what I hear.

  

A real shame. Malaysia keeps on drifting to becoming more and more Islamic, and as you rightly point out, this is all funded by Wahhabists in Saudi Arabia, condoned by Najib Razak in order to distract Malaysians from the real issue: His (and UMNO's) incompetence.

Syariah law is already in place in a few states in Malaysia, including in Kelantan, where women aren't allowed to wear make up or high heels.
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:01 pm

Quoting nitepilot79 (Thread starter):
There will also be prayer recitals before take-off."

That inspires confidence regardless of the religion.  
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:08 pm

I'm very tempted to book a flight and eat some bacon sandwiches.
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:15 pm

Its like a Malay version of Iran Air, what is the big deal? dont see anyone cracking jokes about IR, atleast this one is safety concious and wont have a prayer area, nor dress their non-muslim hosties in hijab.
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:46 pm

Royal Brunei Also he a prayer before. atleast they did when I fly them from BNE to BWN.
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:52 pm

Quoting Coal (Reply 11):

Yep, parts of the Islamic world that were once rather tolerant and progressive are becoming worse thanks to Saudi's who export their hateful Salafist ideology with all the oil money they were given by a chance. One may only wonder how much better of a place world would be if Middle East's oil supplies were located in Europe or perhaps South America instead.

Quoting dubaiamman243 (Reply 9):

I wouldn't trust my life on hands of anyone who believes there's a need to pray to the little invisible man before each flight, especially when we know that little invisible man is a very incompetent one. Let's face it, if God or Allah is supposed to care about humankind and humans he has done an awfully bad job with ISIS running around and climate change threatening the very existence of our specie. If that's the best he has got I would rather go hang out with the devil, at least he seems competent enough based on the amount of evil in this world. However, until that day I will commit my life to breaking irrational rules of Islam and Christianity as much as possible.

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Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:55 pm

Quoting 777way (Reply 8):
Obviously you have never been there otherwise wouldnt have posted this, its one of the most liberal muslim states in the world, almost un-Islamic.

33% of Malaysians believe suicide bombings against civilians can be justified in defending Islam from its enemies, (compared to 7% in Pakistan). 86% of Muslim Malaysians support the implementation of Sharia law, 44% of them believe Sharia law should extend to all Malaysians and 62% of them believe in the death penalty for converting away from Islam. If this is the definition of 'liberal' Muslim society, we have real problems.

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/t...hould-sharia-apply-to-all-citizens
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:06 pm

Although unfortunately there is a small minority of people that are so obsessed with religion that they would like this type of service, I think that everyone else would find it extremely offputting and in any case how would they compete with Air Asia and MAS, which sometimes have fares of less than 20$?
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:44 pm

I dont believe those stupid polls all can be faked to suit agendas.

Quoting mham001 (Reply 19):
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:59 pm

The resort island of Langkawi seems to be a strange place for the maiden flight unless they are getting more Gulf tourism than Western tourism these days.. I would that thought the more conservative states in the Northeast would be a better market.
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:09 pm

Quoting pvjin (Reply 18):
Yep, parts of the Islamic world that were once rather tolerant and progressive are becoming worse thanks to Saudi's who export their hateful Salafist ideology with all the oil money they were given by a chance

what does Saudi has to do with a Malaysian airline? If anything wrong happens anywhere in the world you find a way to blame Saudi. You must have a real dislike to them.

Quoting pvjin (Reply 18):
One may only wonder how much better of a place world would be if Middle East's oil supplies were located in Europe or perhaps South America instead.

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Quoting pvjin (Reply 18):
I wouldn't trust my life on hands of anyone who believes there's a need to pray

Why does a prayer bother's you so much?

Quoting pvjin (Reply 18):
However, until that day I will commit my life to breaking irrational rules of Islam and Christianity as much as possible.

So the Jewish religion is ok with you? Why don't you become a Jew, ah wait, they also believe in God

Quoting mham001 (Reply 19):
33% of Malaysians believe suicide bombings against civilians can be justified in defending Islam from its enemies,

Defending, then they were attacked, will you not use any means to defend yourself if attacked? This only applies to this posting.

And 30% of Republicans approve the destruction of an imaginary movie city because it has an Arabic/Muslim name.

Quoting mham001 (Reply 19):
we have real problems.

By we you mean????
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:20 pm

Quoting CARST (Reply 7):
Well, there is that pre-recorded prayer being playing on all EY flights, too.
Quoting dubaiamman243 (Reply 9):
Some Muslim EK pilots say the prayer while doing the PA before take off. Nothing scary at all people!!!

That's one of the reasons (among many, many others) why I'd NEVER EVER set foot on a ME3 plane or any Islamic airline at all!!!

It's religious fundamental fanatism at it's best... and I believe that is crap! It's 2015!

And with all due respect I do find it very scary when there is a pre-recorded prayer played over the PA system before take-off and imagining the pilots do it thmeselves is even more scary!!!

Just imagine a western pilot saying the lord's prayer before every take-off???!!! Sorry but I find that ridiculous!

So this new Malaysian airline goes instantly to my no-fly list!!!

I'm also pretty sure that with all the limited free speech these days due to more important political correctness my comment will be considered offending and will be removed soon... LOL!!!

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Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:28 pm

I guess it's quite easy to serve halal food when it only serves domestic sectors and catering consists of '...our complimentary snack pack offers passengers with tasty muffin, fruit juice and peanuts'.

The website is quite basic but the 'about us' section mentions absolutely nothing about the airline being geared towards a certain religion. It seems to be a loco for everyone (it describes itself as 'the latest low cost airline from malaysia that puts customers first).

I could be wrong but do the likes of Etihad/Emirates/Qatar also do some form of prayer before takeoff? It is not something that would put me off as a traveller at all. And i'm guessing it would only be played in arabic anyway so i'd likely be oblivious to it.
 
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:29 pm

Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 25):

It's only offensive in it's stupidity
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:36 pm

Quoting pvjin (Reply 18):

You had me, then you lost me.

Replacing God with Gaya and claiming climate change threatens our very survival rather than posing a threat to our status quo doesn't really help your argument.
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:54 pm

Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 25):
That's one of the reasons (among many, many others) why I'd NEVER EVER set foot on a ME3 plane or any Islamic airline at all!!!

assuming from the flag beside your nik: yep, you're way better off with germanwings. but please take a look at the pilots, one might be sad! it's actually funny that the ME3 carriers you avoid never lost a single live because of religion! yet the disgusting german lufthansa that operates three subsidiaries out of one airport to break unions solidarity was not able to see how a sad pilot could do what he did. but hey, LH treat the relatives very well, remember their first offerings? to sum it up, maybe prayers and hidjabs don't matter that much? maybe it correlates the same way as german "gründlichkeit" and their ability to build an airport!? or maybe it's like inviting the whole world to a party and then forcing everybody around you to house the guests they didn't invite.

other than that, religion is becoming more important in most of europe, especially since we are so welcome to certain very religious groups. from my childhood i remember religion more or less something associated with folklore, and after a stay in the us i was shocked at the high degree of religious people there! now this is spreading all over the planet again...

... even into the cockpit! and i personally don't understand religion!

i remember my captain and the purser on my flights with biman bangladesh, that they announced even in english, that "if god the merciful wishes, we shall arrive at our destination" (maybe followed by "in time" or "safe" - that i can't remember). at the time i thought it was fun... i never felt any discomfort on my flights with iranian, arab and bangladeshi airlines, never. the discomfort would rather be related to the B737-400, which most probably isn't factory new, and is operated by a small asian airline. but in this case, you may trust in god!
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Sun Dec 20, 2015 11:55 pm

Quoting pvjin (Reply 18):
. Let's face it, if God or Allah is supposed to care about humankind and humans he has done an awfully bad job with ISIS running around and climate change threatening the very existence of our specie.

Even if I believed in God - which I don't - I doubt I'd expect that deity or any "higher being" to save mankind from its own stupidity.

Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 25):
That's one of the reasons (among many, many others) why I'd NEVER EVER set foot on a ME3 plane or any Islamic airline at all!!!

I imagine there are quite a lot of deeply Christian pilots - especially in the US - who say a prayer or two. Would you put those airlines on your "no-fly" list as well?

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 12):
It's not a market that I'm a part of but that doesn't delegitimize the enterprise.

The chances of most posters in this thread actually needing to fly the airline are pretty low.

I took a look at the Rayani website and I could find any mention of Allah, or even sharia, so maybe it's a case of A.netters yelling before anyone's hit them again?

http://rayaniair.com/rairweb/index.php

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Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:16 am

This...

Quoting karungguni (Reply 23):
The resort island of Langkawi seems to be a strange place for the maiden flight unless they are getting more Gulf tourism than Western tourism these days.. I would that thought the more conservative states in the Northeast would be a better market.

If it indeed a sharia-based airline - and not one that just caters towards some of the elements of sharia-adhering passengers (good question on whether they separate men and women and insist on women only travelling with male relatives - what about cabin toilets?) - why a resort destination where generally there are more liberal attitudes towards social conduct?

Intriguing case. But I think there are some pretty insurmountable challenges to having a strictly sharia airline.

I have to admit to not really liking the broadcast prayer on airlines, but have no problem with flight crew taking a moment to privately pray. Hopefully for a safe and successful flight.

[Edited 2015-12-20 16:22:16]
 
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:18 am

Quoting winterlight (Reply 14):
I'm very tempted to book a flight and eat some bacon sandwiches.

Or you could ask the FAs for one.

I'm sure they won't respond like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=io_HLVYN37s

Quoting mham001 (Reply 19):
33% of Malaysians believe suicide bombings against civilians can be justified in defending Islam from its enemies, (compared to 7% in Pakistan). 86% of Muslim Malaysians support the implementation of Sharia law, 44% of them believe Sharia law should extend to all Malaysians and 62% of them believe in the death penalty for converting away from Islam. If this is the definition of 'liberal' Muslim society, we have real problems.

Hmmmm... I was not aware that views in Malaysia were that extreme.

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Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:31 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 33):
Everything Malaysia including MH might be staying on my blacklist for good now.

I doubt the airline(s) will care. I don't think you're the target market.

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Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:47 am

Quoting mariner (Reply 30):
I imagine there are quite a lot of deeply Christian pilots - especially in the US - who say a prayer or two. Would you put those airlines on your "no-fly" list as well?

I've worked for a US carrier and I've never ever heard one of our pilots saying a prayer out loud - especially not over the PA system! And if they'd do it I wouldn't appreciate it at all... I'm not a religious person. I do believe in something and I do believe in christian values because I believe they help us being good people... however I'm not religious and I absolutely don't appreciate it if someone forces me to listen to a prayer somewhere I can't easily leave from...
I wasn't appreciative of Alaska Airlines praying cards either which they put on their meal trays years ago! Everybody should believe what they wanna believe, everybody has the right to be either a believer, a doubter or not religious at all... but don't shove any form of religion in my face as if to say: You gotta come on the right track...
Pray if you want to but leave others alone! So YES an overly christian airline would go to my no-fly list as well!

Quoting coolian2 (Reply 27):
It's only offensive in it's stupidity

and calling my point of view stupidity isn't ??? LOL!!!

Quoting Ty134A (Reply 29):
assuming from the flag beside your nik: yep, you're way better off with germanwings. but please take a look at the pilots, one might be sad! it's actually funny that the ME3 carriers you avoid never lost a single live because of religion!

I fly with DL and UA... they haven't lost a single life due to (christian) religion either... and I haven't heard of any suicidal pilot as well... at least none wearing a uniform and being paid by them!

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Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:52 am

The "Sharia-compliant" angle is a niche that Rayani Air wanted to carve to differentiate itself over AK, OD, FY & MH, but other than the wearing of the hijab by its female cabin crew a lot of its "Sharia-compliant" service are standard practice on domestic flights operated by AK/OD/FY/MH, like the serving of halal food & the lack of alcohol drinks.

Quoting aerokiwi (Reply 32):
If it indeed a sharia-based airline - and not one that just caters towards some of the elements of sharia-adhering passengers (good question on whether they separate men and women and insist on women only travelling with male relatives - what about cabin toilets?) - why a resort destination where generally there are more liberal attitudes towards social conduct?

Sharia compliance only applies to airline ops and not passengers. Also, they did simultaneously launch a flight to Kota Bharu, Kelantan which is the conservative Muslim capital of Malaysia.

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 33):

Hmmmm... I was not aware that views in Malaysia were that extreme.

Unless you actually interact with Muslims in Malaysia then you still aren't aware of actual Malaysian views. 86% of Malaysian Muslims support implementation of Sharia law? Not really, based on what I see everyday. I don't think it's even 40%.

Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 35):
I've worked for a US carrier and I've never ever heard one of our pilots saying a prayer out loud - especially not over the PA system! And if they'd do it I wouldn't appreciate it at all... I'm not a religious person. I do believe in something and I do believe in christian values because I believe they help us being good people... however I'm not religious and I absolutely don't appreciate it if someone forces me to listen to a prayer somewhere I can't easily leave from...

Here's what I don't get. Hearing an utterance of a prayer won't make you have a change of heart & it'll only take a minute or two. If you're hard pressed on not wanting to hear it you can just plug in headphones to tune it out. While you say that you don't appreciate having someone else's views & action being forced unto you, here you're forcing your views on others - so what makes it right for you to do so?

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Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:54 am

Quoting 777way (Reply 31):
Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 24):
So the Jewish religion is ok with you? Why don't you become a Jew, ah wait, they also believe in God

In the grand scheme of things Judaism is quite a tiny and irrelevant religion so I didn't bother to mention it this time, but sure, I do find it equally irrational as other abrahamic religions.

And sure, that practice you mentioned 777way is crazy, however based on my understanding it's done only by some ultra orthodox Jews.

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 24):
what does Saudi has to do with a Malaysian airline? If anything wrong happens anywhere in the world you find a way to blame Saudi. You must have a real dislike to them.

KSA among a couple of other states is exporting radical Salafist Islam all around the world, creating trouble to anyone who doesn't like their medieval ways. In fact perhaps calling them even medieval is wrong, after all in the medieval era Islamic world was largely rather well doing and progressive compared to Western Europe.

Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 24):
God has own way to tease you.  

Oh well, at least he didn't starve me to death at childhood like he has done to millions of other people around the world.
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:55 am

I won't fly with them but only because I like to drink during the flight.

As long as it gets passengers safely, why does it mater if the pilots are Muslims?
 
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:01 am

Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 35):
I do believe in something and I do believe in christian values because I believe they help us being good people... however I'm not religious and I absolutely don't appreciate it if someone forces me to listen to a prayer somewhere I can't easily leave from.

Since it doesn't mean anything to you, I can't imagine why you would care.

I don't care. I never used to care when Alaska Airlines handed out their little prayer cards with the meals.

If they tried to force me to pray that might be a different story, but that's never happened to me on any airline, or anywhere in the Middle East. I was sitting next to an elderly American woman once who, Bible in hand, wanted me to pray with her, but I declined.

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Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:04 am

While I probably won't be in a position to fly them any time soon, I find some of the opinions here astounding.

I've flown EK a few times now and the first time the pre recorded prayer was played I was thinking to myself "that's a first" I certainly wasn't going to jump up and run in terror because of an Islamic prayer. Hell half of EKs crew are westerners!

I'm not religious at all but I've got no issues with this airline or EK, Iran Air, Kuwait Airways etc etc. in January I flew MH and it was just after the air Asia crash in Indonesia. Our flight path went very close to the accident area, I noticed the cabin crew gather in the galley and say a short prayer and a moments silence in respect for the lives lost. I made a point of thanking them for their respect.
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:26 am

I'm not setting foot on any US carriers, do they care? NO!
 
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:35 am

Quoting winterlight (Reply 14):

I'm very tempted to book a flight and eat some bacon sandwiches.

Yes, good for you, that would certainly teach them a lesson.   
 
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:38 am

Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 25):
And with all due respect I do find it very scary when there is a pre-recorded prayer played over the PA system before take-off and imagining the pilots do it thmeselves is even more scary

Tell me please what so scary in a prayer, whatever religion it is?
How do you know that Christian/Jewish pilots do not pray before a flight?
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Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:41 am

Quoting karungguni (Reply 23):
The resort island of Langkawi seems to be a strange place for the maiden flight unless they are getting more Gulf tourism than Western tourism these days.. I would that thought the more conservative states in the Northeast would be a better market.

That's why it is popular. A lot of women get to Malaysia and the first thing they do is discard more extreme religious gear for something more comfortable.
 
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RE: New Malaysian Airline Sharia-Style

Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:42 am

Judaism has LY that abides by some Jewish rules: No flying on the Sabbath, Kosher meals, in some cases women not seated near Orthodox Jewish men. Islam has SV/KU/BI/IR/W5 and probably many more airlines where female crew wear the hijab and cover their arms and legs, no alcohol is served, halal food is provided, a prayer is said prior to departure, the IFE shows where Mecca is, some even have prayer areas on the aircraft and audio versions of the Quran on the IFE.

What's the big deal about another airline operating by Islamic rules? It's serving a niche market who probably appreciate it's entry into service. If you're a Christian, Jew, Buddhist, Atheist etc. and are 'outraged' or critical of the airline... don't fly it. It's quite simple. And you're probably not it's target market anyway.

I'm not Muslim and I've flown EY, EK and QR and seeing Mecca on the map hasn't bothered me. Hearing a prayer prior to departure hasn't bothered me (on the contrary, I found it quite calming and reassuring. And I've listened to Quran verses on the IFE).

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RE: New Malaysian Airline Sharia-Style

Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:45 am

Quoting L1011Lover (Reply 35):

and calling my point of view stupidity isn't ??? LOL!!!

I apologise as I should have been more polite.
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RE: New Malaysian Airline Sharia-Style

Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:53 am

Quoting RickNRoll (Reply 44):
That's why it is popular. A lot of women get to Malaysia and the first thing they do is discard more extreme religious gear for something more comfortable.

Muslim women in Malaysia can get comfortable just about anywhere in the country & not just Langkawi. I've seen Muslim women in bikinis on the beaches of Penang & Port Dickson which is a short drive away from KUL.

Muslim women in Malaysia aren't forced by law to wear the hijab or as you call it "more extreme religious gear" so lets not misrepresent my country, will you?
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RE: New Malaysian Airline Sharia-Style

Mon Dec 21, 2015 1:58 am

^ Yes to suit their perspective on here, Malaysia has become akin to Afghanistan.
 
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RE: New Malaysian Airline Sharia-Style

Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:27 am

Boycotting airlines because the pilots pray, what has A.Net sunk to?

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 33):
Hmmmm... I was not aware that views in Malaysia were that extreme.

Everything Malaysia including MH might be staying on my blacklist for good now.

What's that saying: "There are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." I don't believe for a second that those numbers truly represent what they are claiming to. No doubt there is a percentage who feel that way but they remain in the minority.

Malaysia is a beautiful country, even though it does appear to have somewhat shifted towards conservative thinking lately. Blacklist if you will but you're missing out.
 
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RE: New Malaysian Airline Sharia-Style

Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:28 am

I really don't see what all the fuss is about.

The people who set this airline believe there is a market to be served. If having a prayer before take off or serving halal meals is a way of serving a market and making a profit so doing, why not? I note that their company logo includes arabic script so I would imagine that their plans are to grow services to the MENA region and not targeting passengers who can't survive an hour or two without alcohol.

I read through the various pages on their website and they do offer inflight snacks, described as "a tasty muffin, fruit juice and peanuts." (Yes folks, you better stop drinking orange juice because it is halal. ) Other items are available for sale. So passengers can choose whether they buy or not.

It isn't as if anyone on Anet will be forced to fly with them. There are plenty of other options available for you to choose from, so why fulminate about others having a choice?

As an aside, the use of the term halal has become a marketing term with even products such as water and fruit discribed as such. If someone is really going to refuse an apple because someone else describes it as halal, they really do have a problem.
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RE: New Malaysian Airline Sharia-Style

Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:39 am

Quoting dubaiamman243 (Reply 8):
Some Muslim EK pilots say the prayer while doing the PA before take off. Nothing scary at all people!!!

Same at RJ.

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 5):
It's too bad really - Saudi funded extremism is taking over what used to be a relatively moderate, open country. Malaysia is a hostile place for non-muslims from what I hear.

You're mixing up Malaysia and Indonesia...

Quoting Coal (Reply 10):
Syariah law

Well... in Arabic that means "car law" so... I think you mean sharia.

Quoting LSZH34 (Reply 13):

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"Positive rate, Gear up"

"Engaging Godpilot 1"

I know Jewish, Muslim and Christian pilots, all of whom say forms of prayer before they fly. A Christian pilot friend of mine was screamed at by his Jewish counterpart for making the sign of the cross before the takeoff roll. The best part is you wouldn't know your pilot's religious beliefs had the airline not publicly stated that the airline is sharia based.

It's sad that we cannot respect that others have different religious beliefs anymore.. Lord have mercy...
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RE: New Malaysian Airline Sharia-Style

Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:39 am

What ever the marketing angle, thats a cheap 'n nasty colour scheme.
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RE: New Malaysian Airline Sharia-Style

Mon Dec 21, 2015 2:50 am

Quoting 9w748capt (Reply 5):
Malaysia is a hostile place for non-muslims from what I hear.

Well, with all this unbridled immigration, you'd better buckle up!
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