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SR380
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Questions About Boeing 2707-300

Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:26 am

Hi Guys,

Next year will mark the 45's birthday of the cancelation of the American SST project the Boeing 2707-300.

Some questions pop-up in my mind:

1) The aircarft was ordered by 26 airlines (122 orders). Does anyone know which airlines ordered it?
2) While knowing the reason why the project was cancel, I recently discover that they were close to building the first prototype. Evene engines seems to be completed.
3) There have been some major progress including Quiet Spike adaption to reduce and control sonic booms, engine performance and so many studies on the Tupolev-144 and other NASA works such as the AST.

Could we then see something close to this bird flying one day?
 
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RE: Questions About Boeing 2707-300

Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:38 am

Scroll to reply #9

Which Airlines Ordered The Boeing 2707 SST? (by BestWestern Oct 31 2005 in Civil Aviation)

I found it with google, wikipedia has a decent short article but only a partial list of ordering firms.
 
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RE: Questions About Boeing 2707-300

Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:48 am

Quoting tootallsd (Reply 1):
Scroll to reply #9

Which Airlines Ordered The Boeing 2707 SST? (by BestWestern Oct 31 2005 in Civil Aviation)

Thanks!

From that reply:

Quote:

AIRLINE
Aer Lingus 2
Air Canada 6
Air France 6
Air India 2
Airlift Int. 1
Alitalia 6
American 6
BOAC 6
Braniff 2
Canadian Pac. 3
Continental 3
Delta 3
Eastern 6
El Al 2
Iberia 3
JAL 5
KLM 6
Lufthansa 3
Middle East -
Northwest 6
Pakistan Int. 2
Pan American 15
Qantas 6
Trans-Am. 1
TWA 12
United 6
World 3
TOTAL 122

How comes that Airlift and Trans-Am did order just a single airframe? Was it intended for a special purpose?

Sorry for the formatting....
 
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RE: Questions About Boeing 2707-300

Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:49 am

Thanks! Didn't expect some of those airlines to order it.
 
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RE: Questions About Boeing 2707-300

Wed Dec 23, 2015 11:59 am

Air France and BOAC both ordered some? Did they intent to operate them alongside Concorde?
 
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RE: Questions About Boeing 2707-300

Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:08 pm

Quoting nighthawk (Reply 4):
Air France and BOAC both ordered some? Did they intent to operate them alongside Concorde

Yep. This were two very differents birds
 
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RE: Questions About Boeing 2707-300

Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:24 pm

Eastern - 6

Just where in the heck were they planning to operate it?
 
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RE: Questions About Boeing 2707-300

Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:30 pm

Eastern - 6

Just where in the heck were they planning to operate it?


On the Air-Shuttle, of course  
 
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RE: Questions About Boeing 2707-300

Thu Dec 24, 2015 1:10 pm

Quoting BostonBeau (Reply 7):
On the Air-Shuttle, of course

  

I think the EAL order was due to this being while the
Trans-Pacific Case was under way at the CAB...the "cause
celebre" of the late 60's...EAL and I believe every other
trunk carrier (as they were then called) was a party to
that case. They all needed to demonstrate the "able"
part of "ready, willing and able". EVERYBODY wanted
rights to Hawaii; AA badly wanted TYO, etc., etc.

And...Aer Lingus? What were THEY thinking??

A most interesting customer list. I love that Airlift
order for just ONE...idiotic.
Try a Little VC-10derness
 
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RE: Questions About Boeing 2707-300

Thu Dec 24, 2015 3:52 pm

Quoting SR380 (Thread starter):
While knowing the reason why the project was cancel, I recently discover that they were close to building the first prototype. Evene engines seems to be completed.

Boeing had a mock-up of the airplane, but I am not sure how close they were to actually producing a flight-test vehicle. I do know Boeing briefly considered moving forward on their own after the US government cut funding in 1971, but quickly came to the conclusion they could not afford it. As such, I think they were not close to being ready.



Quoting SR380 (Thread starter):
There have been some major progress including Quiet Spike adaption to reduce and control sonic booms, engine performance and so many studies on the Tupolev-144 and other NASA works such as the AST.

Could we then see something close to this bird flying one day?

I do not believe so. The fuel burn is so great that I do not believe a large (300 passenger) intercontinental SST can be economical to operate. It is not just the cost of the fuel, but the amount of fuel needing to be carried impacting revenue payload.

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