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Quoting ukoverlander (Reply 3): |
Quoting Polot (Reply 1): United is replacing the 777 with the 789..which only has about 15 less seats than the 777 used. The 789 also has the same number of premium seats (albeit all J instead of J+F), so hardly much of a downgrade. |
Quoting ukoverlander (Reply 3): From a passengers perspective I'd consider that to be a progressive upgrade. |
Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 4): 772 J pax to 789 J = improvement in seat configuration (2-4-2 with half facing backward to 2-2-2 facing forward) |
Quoting DolphinAir747 (Reply 6): |
Quoting N1120A (Reply 5): With Continental FAs and the terribly unergonomic CO seats, I wouldn't. |
Quoting N1120A (Reply 5): Many people prefer rear-facing seats. 2-2-2 is better than 2-4-2, but the decline in service quality and seat comfort more than negate that. |
Quoting DolphinAir747 (Reply 6): Please. This parochial attitude is bringing down and holding back UA. |
Quoting g500 (Thread starter): Had the Australian government allowed Singapore airlines to enter the route, UA might not even be on the route anymore |
Quoting Polot (Reply 1): Makes sense, there is not as much need for as many seats compared to a few years ago with the increased competition and the decoupling of MEL from SYD. |
Quoting Planeflyer (Reply 10): Now give me ULH form SD to Thailand, Taiwan, China and India! |
Quoting ukoverlander (Reply 3): From a passengers perspective I'd consider that to be a progressive upgrade. |
Quoting jetblue1965 (Reply 7): Only gripe are those who actually paid for GF, but then again, those should've been flying QF's A380 F to begin with. |
Quoting N1120A (Reply 5): With Continental FAs and the terribly unergonomic CO seats, I wouldn't. |
Quoting N1120A (Reply 5): With Continental FAs and the terribly unergonomic CO seats, I wouldn't. |
Quoting usflyguy (Reply 14): and that's your opinion, almost all long-time CO flyers absolutely hate UA and their service/employees. They can most certainly tell when it's a pmUA crew or customer service employee and not in a good way. |
Quoting RDH3E (Reply 15): Interaction with the crew makes up what, maybe 90 seconds of a multi-hour journey? |
Quoting RDH3E (Reply 15): It makes nearly no difference. Interaction with the crew makes up what, maybe 90 seconds of a multi-hour journey? |
Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 16): Nobody to greet you at the door, |
Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 16): nobody to show you to your seat, |
Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 16): nobody to take your coat |
Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 16): no polish, no professionalism. |
Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 16): Crew interaction makes up a huge component of the customer experience for most carriers, |
Quoting usflyguy (Reply 14): and that's your opinion, almost all long-time CO flyers absolutely hate UA and their service/employees. They can most certainly tell when it's a pmUA crew or customer service employee and not in a good way. |
Quoting Planeflyer (Reply 10): I fly over to asia 10X a year and have been in every large twin save for the 350. Due to the much reduced impact of jet lag I'Il take the 787 over any aircraft. |
Quoting N1120A (Reply 5): With Continental FAs and the terribly unergonomic CO seats, I wouldn't. |
Quoting DolphinAir747 (Reply 6): Please. This parochial attitude is bringing down and holding back UA. |
Quoting justloveplanes (Reply 19): Hope Boeing can pull off the passenger experience on the 777x like 787. |
Quoting jetblue1965 (Reply 17): Thinking a FA will show you to your comp upgrade domestic F seat is laughable. |
Quoting jetblue1965 (Reply 17): Most of my US domestic flights has that, across airlines. |
Quoting usflyguy (Reply 14): They can most certainly tell when it's a pmUA crew or customer service employee and not in a good way. |
Quoting sshank (Reply 18): And PM UA long time 1Ks like me are very amused at the above - there is absolutely nothing redeeming about the sCO experience |
Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 23): The discussion was about long-haul international. |
Quoting jsnww81 (Reply 23): On my last four flights - two on UA and two on AA - the "greeting" at the door was an FA with their back to passengers while they noisily broke up ice cube sheets in the galley. One of them did turn around, sigh annoyingly, and say to the gentleman in front of me "are you all here already? I told them we needed more time." Welcome aboard the friendly skies! |
Quoting DiscoverCSG (Reply 4): 772 F pax down to 789 J = downgrade 772 J pax to 789 J = improvement in seat configuration (2-4-2 with half facing backward to 2-2-2 facing forward) 772 Y pax to 789 Y = decrease in seat width Excepting the advantages of lower cabin altitude and bigger windows, only J pax see an improvement, and 789 J is still not a state-of-the-art, all-aisle access J class. |
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 8): Quoting g500 (Thread starter): Had the Australian government allowed Singapore airlines to enter the route, UA might not even be on the route anymore SQ would have lost their shirt. |
Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 24): The 787 is much more confortable than the 777 or 747 IMO. |
Quoting delimit (Reply 31): As a disinterested outsider, this. You guys aren't doing yourself any favors. Getting to one big happy family is going to improve everyone's experience of UA. |
Quoting OA412 (Reply 30): Even in Y? I've not heard good things about anyone's 787 in Y other than JL's 8-across. |
Quoting g500 (Thread starter): United's piece of the LAX-SYD market gets smaller and smaller |
Quoting B737900ER (Reply 26): Besides the brief HKG, what's different? And can we please, please, please, all grow up and get past the stupid sUA vs sCO junk. |
Quoting DolphinAir747 (Reply 6): LAX SYD and LAX MEL 789s combined have more seats than a single LAX SYD MEL 744, no? |
Quoting ua900 (Reply 38): Perhaps more noticeable is the Int'l medium haul stuff shifting to IAH, e.g. GUA, SAL and SJO. |
Quoting ua900 (Reply 25): Well pick sCO if you like seat belt signs that remain lit for 80% of your transcon or drawn galley curtains in C on the 767/777s. Forget about water service every 30 mins. Venture behind the curtain if you want anything outside of the initial service or the meal service. I also don't recall a sUA crew ever hitting me up to buy extra cigarettes for them at the duty free while they're working a turn. |
Quoting B737900ER (Reply 40): Those were never "shifted" to IAH. They have been since at least 2008 |
Quoting ua900 (Reply 25): Not saying it's better or worse than sUA, just different, that's all. |
Quoting strfyr51 (Reply 33): That's just flat Wrong!! The first 25 787's were flown by Exclusively PM-CO crews as UA owned the majority of the 777's and ALL the 747's So until the 26th 787 was delivered S-UA crews were NOT flying the airplanes. Now that the seniority list has been merged? The crews fly what they can BID. Which means you might have an S-UA Crew S-CO Crew or a mixture. The Flight Attendants and Mechanics have STILL yet to obtain a single contract merging the Seniority lists. But that is in work.. |
Quoting FlyHossD (Reply 20): that NONE of the 787s were delivered to Continental. NONE! ALL were delivered to United. That is, UAL had the opportunity to specify the seats and arrangement of the cabin and did so. |
Quoting N1120A (Reply 46): Not talking about pilots, though the horror stories out of the 737 training program and the lack of hand flying by sCO pilots is a little scary, but the F/As. |
Quoting N1120A (Reply 5): With Continental FAs and the terribly unergonomic CO seats, I wouldn't. |
Quoting N1120A (Reply 5): Many people prefer rear-facing seats. 2-2-2 is better than 2-4-2, but the decline in service quality and seat comfort more than negate that. |
Quoting ua900 (Reply 25): there's no GS/GF check in at LAX |
Quoting ua900 (Reply 25): the decision to not build a dedicated GS check in a la ORD. |
Quoting Planeflyer (Reply 37): |
Quoting N1120A (Reply 46): Maybe if you are on an sCO plane. |
Quoting N1120A (Reply 46): Which is why the F/A call button is nicknamed the CO button, as you have to hit it every time to get a drink refill. |