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Irish 1/16: Ireland Aloft!

Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:18 am

Good morning folks, a very happy new year to you and yours and may 2016 bring you all you wish for.

We had a great 2015 on the Irish aviation front, with records falling and growth continuing. 2016 looks like being another very good year, with lots of exciting developments in the pipeline: routes, runways, even more Rouge!

Here's the link to our last (and shortest) thread of 2015.

Irish 23/15: The Christmas Present (by kaitak Dec 24 2015 in Civil Aviation)

Go mbeirimid anseo ag an am seo aris!

Enjoy!
 
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RE: Irish 1/16: Ireland Aloft!

Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:04 am

Happy new year to you too Kaitak, and to everyone else!

Can't wait for some of the developments this year. The first ever routes to BDL & YVR. Increased summer capacity on American carriers to routes such as ORD & NYC. EI joining OneWorld (hopefully).

So what's next? AA to DFW or MIA? (Though I'd likely see this at the expense of one of their current routes). UA going year round to ORD? QR launching DUB?

Roll on 2016
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RE: Irish 1/16: Ireland Aloft!

Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:48 am

Good Morning Kaitak and a Happy and Prosperous New Year to All.

There is a Chinese man that is a customer of mine and his wife works for a GSA for Chinese Airlines here in Dublin,we do have a conversation about aviation from time to time and about the possibility of flights between DUB and China and yesterday he just told me that China Eastern Airlines are to open a service on the route.
Just wondering has anybody else heard anything about this.
 
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RE: Irish 1/16: Ireland Aloft!

Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:41 pm

I don't think that Shanghai is on the bilateral - from memory just Beijing and Shenzhen.

Shanghai is also a terrible transit airport due to the ever present delays and the fact that most domestic MU services depart from Hongqiao airport - a 90 minute transit away.
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RE: Irish 1/16: Ireland Aloft!

Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:55 pm

Happy New Year all. Im sure it will be a good one. Im looking forward to lots more flights out of DUB and some new firsts  

With regards DUB-China lots of rumors flying around the industry with each week that passes. Im sure one of them is more concrete than the rest but we will have to see how it develops.

One thing is for sure there are some amazing routes/fares to be found from DUB for interesting trips for Anetters.
 
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RE: Irish 1/16: Ireland Aloft!

Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:09 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 4):

Oh do tell Philip!!

Have a trip to LAS with BA in J and a trip to California with AA in J to look forward to. Bagged myself bargains, both sets of flights for under €2300
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RE: Irish 1/16: Ireland Aloft!

Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:14 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 4):
One thing is for sure there are some amazing routes/fares to be found from DUB for interesting trips for Anetters.
TK often has return flights to Asia and Africa in Y for under €400.

For example, right now you can book DUB-NBO return for €375 during May!

There are also fares with WS flying DUB-YYT return for €330 during the same month!

[Edited 2016-01-01 06:19:11]
 
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Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:20 pm

Quoting EIRules (Reply 5):
Oh do tell Philip!!

Finding them is half the fun  
Quoting 321neo (Reply 6):
TK often has return flights

Indeed TK have some great combinations that keep popping up from DUB and other European points. Even the most obscure back tracking flights.
 
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Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:23 pm

Quoting OA260 (Reply 7):
Indeed TK have some great combinations that keep popping up from DUB and other European points. Even the most obscure back tracking flights.


Early last summer they had DUB-IST-BOS for €480 return. Unfortunately the fare had increased by the time I got around to booking a few days later so had to stick with the usual BA via LHR.

There are a few incredible deals to the US running right now for the month of July. Return flights in Business for under €1000 with UA/LH/AF/KL/LX/BA! Use Lastminute.ie to find them! I just grabbed DUB-CDG-BOS with AF's new J cabin for €921 return...OMG!   

[Edited 2016-01-01 06:44:08]
 
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Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:53 pm

Some observations today, UA SNN-EWR was operated by a B764 today instead of the normal B752.

Also EI 137 (DUB-BOS) and EI 105 (DUB-JFK) are flying much further north than normal and passed through Northern Greenland.

Also this year will hopefully bring many firsts. We should have the first A350 flight when ET begins ADD-DUB-EWR - no sign of 5th freedom rights for this.

It isn't impossible that the A380 could fly DXB-DUB-DXB with EK by the end of the year.

Also we're getting AA 772's by the end of the year which will be a nice addition to the T/A market.

Thankfully the good news trend continues for DUB into 2016!
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Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:05 pm

Happy New Year, everyone. May this year be the best year for us all.

Quoting EIRules (Reply 1):
So what's next? AA to DFW or MIA? (

No thanks! I prefer Aer Lingus to MIA.  
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Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:37 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 8):
I just grabbed DUB-CDG-BOS with AF's new J cabin for €921 return...OMG!   

Nice price shame about the airline   Lets hope it is on a day they do not go on strike.  
Quoting Cipango (Reply 9):
It isn't impossible that the A380 could fly DXB-DUB-DXB with EK by the end of the year.

Sooner than that maybe  
Quoting Miami (Reply 10):
Happy New Year, everyone. May this year be the best year for us all.

Same to you. Im happy to say MIA is on my list this year. Cant wait it has been a few years since I was there  
 
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RE: Irish 1/16: Ireland Aloft!

Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:50 pm

Year round CLT-DUB would be a logical step.
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RE: Irish 1/16: Ireland Aloft!

Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:27 pm

A TK A333 operating flight TK12 (JFK-IST) made a medical diversion to SNN yesterday:

http://clareherald.com/2015/12/trans...rgency-diversion-to-shannon-72315/
 
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RE: Irish 1/16: Ireland Aloft!

Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:59 pm

Jet2.com flight LS518 (TFS-NCL) diverting to SNN now. The aircraft is a 738.
 
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Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:38 pm

Quoting EIRules (Reply 1):

I don't see any future routes from AA, retaining what they have will be good. It will be EI going to MIA or DFW at some point in the future, cost and feed give EI the edge (yes I know OW) but AA flying the route would not deliver the feed required to support. I wouldn't expect MIA in 2017 either, would expect more freq top ups to take place at ORD/BOS/MCO etc.

Quoting JetBlueCLT (Reply 12):

Think keeping wide body on PHL will be medium term goal, no point in having two B752's year round.
 
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Sat Jan 02, 2016 12:31 pm

FR this morning published a sneak peak of the airline's new Boeing Sky Interior which will feature on all deliveries starting this month!  https://twitter.com/Ryanair/status/683241748215283712

 
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Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:19 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 16):
FR this morning published a sneak peak of the airline's new Boeing Sky Interior which will feature on all deliveries starting this month!  

I flew on the new interior recently and it is a huge change. The legroom is brilliant and for the first time on a FR flight I could stretch my legs.

Seats were comfortable and not flimsy.

The new sky interior does look nice, good work FR!
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Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:29 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 16):

Not bad looks ok. Proof will be in the pudding as they say and on the longer 4 hour sectors to really see how comfortable it is.
 
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Sat Jan 02, 2016 1:45 pm

I can't see EI starting DFW, the joint venture has it covered with 5 daily ex LHR, if there was such huge demand they would add more using one of the JFK slots that they play musical chairs with.
If anything I think EI will consolidate the routes that IAG know they can make work such as JFK, ORD. The demand for DUB-DFW just isn't there even with feed from Aer Lingus regional.
 
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RE: Irish 1/16: Ireland Aloft!

Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:40 pm

Quoting 321neo (Reply 16):

FR this morning published a sneak peak of the airline's new Boeing Sky Interior which will feature on all deliveries starting this month!

Looks nice but I'm a little disappointed they decided to stick with those seats, very different to what was shown a few months ago.



It's still a huge improvement but I was expecting them to go one step further like the image above.
 
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RE: Irish 1/16: Ireland Aloft!

Sat Jan 02, 2016 2:59 pm

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 20):

Bet we know which one was cheaper!

Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 19):

I don't see it for a while at least but would never rule it out. One thing we could rule out is it will very unlikely be AA if and service was to operate.
 
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RE: Irish 1/16: Ireland Aloft!

Sat Jan 02, 2016 9:23 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 15):
I wouldn't expect MIA in 2017 either, would expect more freq top ups to take place at ORD/BOS/MCO etc.

I would agree. 2017 could be the consolidation of network. I would hope that IAG add 1 new T/A route for EI. I can't see 2 or more new routes. (just my opinion of course)
 
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Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:02 pm

Delta going all A330-300 according to latest schedule update, ATL also returns to earlier times which should help at USPC.

ATL - 08.15/10.15 - A333 - 5 April-28 October, 767 few days before/after
JFK - 09.50/11.50 - A333 - Year Round excl 26 March-3 May

If AA go B777, Air Canda will be the last main B767 operator at DUB.
 
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Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:27 pm

RE: Delta, I'll believe it when I see it...
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RE: Irish 1/16: Ireland Aloft!

Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:34 pm

Quoting A60Stock (Reply 24):

Lots of European 752 routes are changing to 763 for example AGP/MAN/SNN etc so they need the 763s. They are also receiving some new A333's this and next year.

Things could change but think its more possible now than since the A332 operated on ATL a few years ago.

[Edited 2016-01-02 14:38:26]
 
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Sat Jan 02, 2016 10:51 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 23):
Delta going all A330-300 according to latest schedule update, ATL also returns to earlier times which should help at USPC.

ATL - 08.15/10.15 - A333 - 5 April-28 October, 767 few days before/after
JFK - 09.50/11.50 - A333 - Year Round excl 26 March-3 May

If AA go B777, Air Canda will be the last main B767 operator at DUB.

Could the ATL route be eventually reinstated to year round service again? Even 4/5 weekly in the winter. Would of thought it worked well for connections in the Caribbean.

Also was the AA B777 ORD confirmed?
 
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Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:04 pm

Quoting EI121 (Reply 26):

AA 777 is not confirmed but perhaps it's refurb dependent?

The A333 was a big jump in capacity this year but improving economic conditions and low fuel prices have got to be positive but would be surprised to see it back year round for a while. At the minute it's not planned for winter 16/17.
 
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Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:07 pm

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 23):
JFK - 09.50/11.50 - A333 - Year Round excl 26 March-3 May

Whats the reason for the lack of service 26th March - 3rd May? Seems an odd time to not operate.
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Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:11 pm

I must say I was surprised to see the A333 on the JFK service, given DL's rather dubious record of releasing timetables on ex-DUB with A333 booked to operate, and for the faithful old B763 to appear instead. My hopes are not fantastically high, but I will be delighted to be proved wrong.
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Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:23 pm

Quoting Cipango (Reply 28):

Not sure but in recent years DL would operate the B752 in months like April/October and B763 the rest of the year.
 
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Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:58 pm

Travel Extra reports the following interesting bits related to DUB:

"Dublin airport will get more new route announcements before March, and two long haul airlines likely to announce services to the Middle East and Asia in 2017."

So QR and CX or another mainland China carrier?

www.travelextra.wordpress.com/2015/1...-sunday-supplement-january-3-2016/

Perhaps a reason for EK to get the A380 earlier this year not that they would be worried about QR operating.
 
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Sun Jan 03, 2016 2:31 pm

Quoting A60Stock (Reply 29):
DL's rather dubious record of releasing timetables on ex-DUB with A333 booked to operate, and for the faithful old B763

I think this year if any year we are more likely to see them stick to it. The demand for advance bookings for the USA is probably the highest since pre economic down turn. We shall see. As one would expect MCO LAS SFO LAX with stops in JFK are the big winners this year.
 
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Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:23 pm

Hi everyone, happy new year.

Little question: does EI Regional have self service check in kiosks in T1? Or a desk? I can't remember! Flying to KIR in the morning :

Thanks  
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Sun Jan 03, 2016 10:52 pm

All EIR flights are operated via T2. Don't forget to use the fast track security. Domestic passengers are entitled to use it.
 
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Sun Jan 03, 2016 11:44 pm

Landed on the SAS flight this morning from Stockholm. There was a lady at baggage claim doing market research, asking all passengers how much they spent on their flight tickets and how much they spent/intended to spend on their holiday. Possible relaunch by Aer Lingus or Ryanair?

I flew out with Norwegian via Oslo, and back with SAS. Both flights had good loads, and from what I heard people tell the researcher, some people paid a pretty penny for the SAS flight.
 
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RE: Irish 1/16: Ireland Aloft!

Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:37 am

Quoting rufusisgod (Reply 34):
All EIR flights are operated via T2. Don't forget to use the fast track security. Domestic passengers are entitled to use it.

They don't advertise that anymore do they? There used to be a sign clearly indicating that but I didn't see it last time I flew from T2.
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Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:48 am

Quoting rufusisgod (Reply 34):
Domestic passengers are entitled to use it.

This is the first I've ever heard of this and using the CFN flight frequently I'm quite annoyed now   
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Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:11 am

Quoting gosimeon (Reply 35):

Don't see it as anything to do with EI/FR, not FR's thing and EI will unlikely revisit for some time as DY loco T/A hit them hard. Would expect DY to take it at some stage. As for SK fares, daylight robbery. Have had fares quoted at €400 rtn now I don't know what's worse SK charging them or the fools paying such a high price to save maybe 2 hours connection.
 
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Mon Jan 04, 2016 10:15 am

Quoting gosimeon (Reply 35):

They are doing it on various airlines around the baggage hall. As for SK I have picked up some very good fares recently lower than DY so like all airlines it pays to shop around and very much varies from how far you book in advance to the day or month you fly.
 
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Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:14 am

Looks like seasonal service to Funchal may return this Summer.
Looking through a tour operator brochure they seem to be using ASL Airlines (Air Contractors) once a week on Thursday from May to October.
 
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RE: Irish 1/16: Ireland Aloft!

Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:22 am

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 40):
Looks like seasonal service to Funchal may return this Summer.

Yes its a charter and being filled by Sunway and Concorde .

ABR469J / ABR470J Great to see it back.
 
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Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:37 am

Quoting Jamie2k9 (Reply 38):
EI will unlikely revisit for some time as DY loco T/A hit them hard.

Can you explain this? It sounds juicy!
 
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Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:02 pm

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 40):

Started back last summer.

Quoting 321neo (Reply 42):

ARN was really good for transit traffic at DUB particularly to JFK, then DY came along with lower fares and impacted so expect EI could make more elsewhere.
 
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RE: Irish 1/16: Ireland Aloft!

Mon Jan 04, 2016 1:56 pm

Quoting EIRules (Reply 1):
So what's next? AA to DFW or MIA? (Though I'd likely see this at the expense of one of their current routes). UA going year round to ORD? QR launching DUB?

Would like UA to do EWR-ORK.....in fact, many people have also asked to see this one happen. Yes, Norwegian is starting BOS-ORK this year, and planning to do some kind of NYC trip(presumably JFK) from ORK in 2017. UA has a year's window, and making that bold move would be a surprise success....especially since EWR is a hub.....and perform similarly to their EWR-NCL flight.

QR getting DUB would be consistent with their mode of operation.

A3 should put HER-ORK in their rotation of the odd, non-daily flights for summer.

AA...... a 1x/week seasonal summer DFW-DUB may be useful.

Perhaps some low-cost carrier, or charter, can do SAV-DUB seasonally, 1 or 2x/week. Airport terminal may be small, but runways are long, and a lot of demand for Irish travel, considering the size of the city.

[Edited 2016-01-04 06:09:59]
 
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Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:20 pm

Quoting Freshside3 (Reply 44):
A3 should put HER-ORK in their rotation of the odd, non-daily flights for summer.

Although it would not be ruled out there would need to be large support from the local trade / TO to fill it. Whilst we have seen a substantial increase over the last decade in Greek routes from Ireland ( mostly charter and seasonal ) these have all been mostly from DUB. Mind you it might be a good time as demand increases from the Irish outbound market for Spain,Greece,Portugal etc... rather then for North Africa and Turkey markets. Whether the recent discounts will help the latter is a wait and see situation.
 
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RE: Irish 1/16: Ireland Aloft!

Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:39 pm

Quoting Freshside3 (Reply 44):
AA...... a 1x/week seasonal summer DFW-DUB may be useful.

1x weekly wouldn't make the route viable as frequency is key. I would imagine if the route were to start, it would be approx. 4x/5x weekly if not daily.

Quoting Freshside3 (Reply 44):
Perhaps some low-cost carrier, or charter, can do SAV-DUB seasonally, 1 or 2x/week. Airport terminal may be small, but runways are long, and a lot of demand for Irish travel, considering the size of the city.

Though SAV is beautiful, I could guarantee at least half of the Irish population don't know anything about it (or have even heard about it) aside from Forrest Gump. SAV doesn't have any international flights at present which bears question of whether its viable for customer and immigration. I know DUB has CPB, but flights can be delayed and CBP closes.
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Mon Jan 04, 2016 3:08 pm

I've an idea, on the same basis as BDL is going to be served by EI (more for the local populous than the Irish), could CLE be a potential destination to be 757-served in 2017? Just as a bit of blue-sky thinking, it could be four-weekly with a seasonal twice-weekly service between SAV (although, for my money, I'd rather see EI make a go of YUL).

Just blue-sky thinking, mind, so don't take it too seriously.
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RE: Irish 1/16: Ireland Aloft!

Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:43 pm

Quoting Cipango (Reply 46):
Though SAV is beautiful,

It really is - I was there in 2015 - great place and friendly people!
I do enjoy a spot of flying, especially when it's not in economy!
 
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RE: Irish 1/16: Ireland Aloft!

Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:06 pm

Quoting Freshside3 (Reply 44):
A3 should put HER-ORK in their rotation of the odd, non-daily flights for summer.

Cork had a weekly HER link up until Thomas Cook exit from Ireland in 2014, it always did well but TCX exit from Ireland had a much bigger impact at Cork than anywhere else. A3 are not operating any BFS charters this summer so expect capacity with them is limited and a service from Cork would need the backing from Falcon.

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