Delta 757-300

delta762 · Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:05 pm

I am finally checking off my last aircraft type on Delta in a few weeks. The 753 is my final box to check. I will be flying into MCO on the 753 and it appears this aircraft type is heavily used on the ATL-MCO route. Can anyone tell me what other routes the 753 is used on? Thanks in advance for your answers!!

Delta762

American 767 · Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:16 pm

Probably other domestic routes out of DTW and MSP. Because remember, the 753s at DL are all ex-NW. True, there can be some cross fleeting after a merger, but seeing some 753s still flying out of DTW and MSP wouldn't surprise me. You might still see those in LAX.

flyDTW1992 · Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:21 pm

They do some Florida routes out of DTW, like MCO and FLL, and will also sub in on various flights, I've seen them on DTW-LAX a number of times, as well as some other "midcon" routes out to the West Coast.

AV8AJET · Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:29 pm

Been using it seasonally on the JFK-KEF also.

xaapb · Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:34 pm

What about service from DTW/MSP/ATL to LAS?

Greetings

GBerg · Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:38 pm

Hi delta762
I flew Delta 757-300 KEF-JFK return last summer. Mostly a pleasant experience but the last rows are noisy and shaky.

redzeppelin · Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:52 pm

I've logged the DL 753 on MSP-MCO, MSP-SEA and SLC-ATL.
They also do some turns to Hawaii.

Luftymatt · Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:03 pm

Quoting av8ajet (Reply 3):
Been using it seasonally on the JFK-KEF also.

Interesting, I didn't know that they were used internationally. Thanks for that

TS-IOR · Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:03 pm

Mainly run between ATL, MCO, FLL, MSP, PHX, LAX, HNL, SEA

Josh32121 · Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:04 pm

I was looking at ATL-SEA in March and saw one of the flights assigned to a 753. They also fly some ATL-LAX and ATL-SFO, I believe. They get around.

flyDTW1992 · Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:06 pm

Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 8):

Mainly run between ATL, MCO, FLL, MSP, PHX, LAX, HNL, SEA

You forgot DTW

parapente · Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:13 pm

Flew on a Thomas Cook 757-300 last week coming back from skiing with kids.Think it had circa 280 pax ( one class of course) slimline seats.Flight was only an hour so ok. Funny thing that to disembark the rear before the front as otherwise it would destabilise the aircraft! (Sadly we were in the front so got off last.

compensateme · Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:17 pm

Quoting American 767 (Reply 1):
Probably other domestic routes out of DTW and MSP. Because remember, the 753s at DL are all ex-NW. True, there can be some cross fleeting after a merger, but seeing some 753s still flying out of DTW and MSP wouldn't surprise me. You might still see those in LAX.

Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 8):
Mainly run between ATL, MCO, FLL, MSP, PHX, LAX, HNL, SEA

They're not primarily used out DTW & MSP nor are they concentrated between specific routes anymore. Since DL began domestic cross fleeting 5 years ago, they've flown a wide spectrum of routes. You can find them on routes like MKE-MSP (seasonal) to LAX-HNL.

On the late summer schedules, I noticed they're performing some routes from DTW (e.g. LAX) in time slots the (domestic) 763 has operated the past few years, so expect that as the (domestic) 763 fleet winds down, the 753 find a home as its de facto replacement.

FSDan · Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:29 pm

They are spread across the system at this point. Mostly they operate from MSP, DTW, and ATL to the West Coast (mostly SEA, SFO, LAX, and LAS, and sometimes PHX and SLC as well) and to Florida (mostly MCO, but also sometimes to FLL and RSW) as well as on hub to hub flights between MSP, DTW, and ATL. There is also at least one daily LAX-HNL flight, sometimes two. MSP-MKE is one of the only routes I have seen that doesn't conform to the aforementioned patterns. I have also seen short-lived/one-off usage on routes like ATL-SMF, MSP-ANC, and MSP-PDX.

JFK-KEF was on the 753 last summer, but this summer it is planned on the domestic 752 so that it can rotate with the aircraft that runs MSP-KEF.

LH707330 · Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:45 pm

I've flown them on MSP-SEA twice, as well as SEA-HNL and back. They're used quite heavily on Hawaii routes, I think they fly them out to SEA in the late afternoon, then evening departure for Hawaii, redeye back, and then back to MSP/ATL, etc. Pretty good utilization when they do it that way.

seabosdca · Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:47 pm

For many years, they spent a whole lot of their time doing MSP-West Coast-HNL and back (via all of SEA/PDX/LAX) as well as Florida turns. Now, as pointed out above, they're more evenly distributed throughout the system, moving around in response to where domestic demand is heaviest.

chrisair · Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:48 pm

Get 'em all winter in PHX, usually heading to Atlanta. Flew one last winter. Nice ride, but my god it's a long airplane. Don't sit in row 49 if you have a tight connection.

N85M · Thu Jan 07, 2016 5:48 pm

I flew on a DL 757-300 ATL-FLL in November 2015.

DocLightning · Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:39 pm

Whatever you do, do NOT get seated in the aft 1/3 of the fuselage.

My first flight on the 753 was DTW-MSP (NW, duh) back in 2004 or 2005 for an interview. The entire aircraft had less than ten people aboard. It was fine.

My second flight was on the return leg MSP-DTW. The aircraft was full and I was in the second-to-last row. From the time when they turned off the seatbelt light to when I walked out of the door was a full 30 minutes. Yes, 1/3 of the time spent in the air was spent waiting to disembark. Embarkation took 45.

TLHFLA · Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:23 pm

The first 753 I flew on was a few years ago from TPA-ATL. The inbound plane was running behind schedule from ATL so when the plane arrived, the captain came into the gate house, got on the PA and asked everyone to gather around. He said we were running late and needed everyone to board quickly because it was a very long 757 with many, many seats. It felt like a pep talk before a football game.

Another time, I was scheduled on a 753 from ATL-TPA, but was swapped for a domestic 763 at the last minute. That happens from time to time.

delta762 · Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:10 pm

Thanks for all the helpful information. I'll be in the first class cabin so I imagine it will feel like any other seven five, at least those with the IFE. I may however venture back mid-flight and take the full stroll front to back.

Delta762

floridaflyboy · Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:47 pm

They've even used it on and off on IND-ATL the past few weeks and I've also flown it on MSP-IND a couple times.

EddieDude · Thu Jan 07, 2016 9:06 pm

I once saw on a flights search engine the 753 designator for the type of aircraft used on a specific JFK-MEX flight late this month. The next time I ran a search, I only found 752s. Was that a glitch, or is it really a one-off 753 flight to MEX due to high demand or something?

DTWPurserBoy · Thu Jan 07, 2016 10:11 pm

This airplane is generally detested by flight attendants. They call it "Satan's Bowling Alley."

hz747300 · Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:10 pm

For PHX, I thought it was only seasonal from DTW and MSP, no? During this time of year when half of Minnesota relocates to Mesa.

bigfoot0503 · Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:28 pm

Saw the 753 used over the last couple weeks on an ATL-PDX-ATL late night routing.

A333MSPtoAMS · Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:38 pm

In February I'm slated to return from ATL to MSP on a 753.

777Jet · Thu Jan 07, 2016 11:48 pm

Quoting delta762 (Thread starter):
I am finally checking off my last aircraft type on Delta in a few weeks. The 753 is my final box to check.

Awesome!

The 753 was my hardest type to log - it took nearly ten years because of equipment swaps.

Quoting delta762 (Thread starter):
Can anyone tell me what other routes the 753 is used on?

Quoting xaapb (Reply 4):
What about service from DTW/MSP/ATL to LAS?

I logged my DL 753 flight on DTW-LAS but that was in summer of 2014 so I'm not sure if it is still used on that route.

God luck!

United_fan · Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:47 am

I'm supposed to fly on one next Friday ATL-FLL and back to ATL on Monday. Never been on a 757-300.

SkyTeamTriStar · Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:53 am

Quoting DTWPurserBoy (Reply 23):
This airplane is generally detested by flight attendants. They call it "Satan's Bowling Alley."

Did F/As detest the stretched DC-8, also? just wondering......

PA727 · Fri Jan 08, 2016 2:09 am

Flow the DL 753 many times on the LAS-MSP redeye

TW870 · Fri Jan 08, 2016 2:36 am

Quoting SkyTeamTriStar (Reply 29):
Did F/As detest the stretched DC-8, also? just wondering......

No. I flew for United - granted I started 7 years after the last DC-8s left - but my coworkers had generally positive memories of the -8s. Though the stretch -8s were long like the 757-300s, they had far more galley space. Plus, jets delivered in the 1960s had either 34 or 36 inch pitch in coach, so overall you had a less dense configuration, which made the passengers happier.

cfichad · Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:05 am

I flew on a 757-300 in October between DTW and SEA and I was seated in the middle seat of the exit row. The seat barely moved and the pitch was miserable. No issue with the Delta service, they were great as usual.

warreng24 · Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:18 am

Quoting chrisair (Reply 16):
Get 'em all winter in PHX, usually heading to Atlanta. Flew one last winter. Nice ride, but my god it's a long airplane. Don't sit in row 49 if you have a tight connection.

Not to go too OT, but I was curious about the length of the 753 vs the DC-8 60 Series. Both are narrowbodies, but the DC-8-6X is 187 ft vs the 178 ft of the 753.

Holy crap that must have taken forever to board.

michman · Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:36 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 27):
I logged my DL 753 flight on DTW-LAS but that was in summer of 2014 so I'm not sure if it is still used on that route.

Yes, there was a 753 flight on DTW-LAS today. As well as as DTW-ATL, DTW-LAX,DTW-FLL, and 3x DTW-MCO.

[Edited 2016-01-07 19:44:25]

Viscount724 · Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:03 am

Quoting warreng24 (Reply 33):
Quoting chrisair (Reply 16):
Get 'em all winter in PHX, usually heading to Atlanta. Flew one last winter. Nice ride, but my god it's a long airplane. Don't sit in row 49 if you have a tight connection.

Not to go too OT, but I was curious about the length of the 753 vs the DC-8 60 Series. Both are narrowbodies, but the DC-8-6X is 187 ft vs the 178 ft of the 753.

I flew on quite a few 60-series DC-8s (and a few re-engined -71s) and can't recall boarding or deplaning being unusually long. Also have to consider that average load factor in those days was seldom much above 60% so many flights were half full or less. Only charter carriers operated with the highest-density seating with about 250 seats, and those types of passengers were more interested in the fare than how long it took to board.

Typical scheduled carrier 2-class configuration on the DC-8-61 and -63 was seldom much over 200 seats, little more than a full 737-800/900 on a LCC today. And Y class seat pitch then was usually 34 inches, 3 or 4 inches more than the usual Y seat pitch now.

UA's re-engined DC-8-71 configuration had 200 seats, 26 F and 174 Y, compared to 234 seats on DL's 757-300.

seabosdca · Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:45 am

There is also less usable passenger space in that configuration than you might think, for two reasons. First, the DC-8 airframe is not as efficient in terms of cabin length as the 753. The difference in cabin length is less than the 9-foot difference in fuselage length. Second, a lot more space in that DC-8 is dedicated to closets, galleys, and lavs than you would see in a DL 753.

[Edited 2016-01-07 20:45:55]

bpat777 · Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:52 am

I logged my 1st and only DL 753 PHX-ATL Aug 2014. In ATL I asked one of the F/A's if I could take pics of the cabin since they had a long turn. I explained that I had heard and read it takes forever to get off if you're in the back but experiencing is in fact torture. He agreed and said he believes it causes the most missed connections of any plane in the fleet. That is one long plane.

Viscount724 · Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:17 am

DL DC-8-61s had a different cabin configuration that UA with 18 F and 194 Y, total 212, and with F class galley and lavatories at the front rather than mid-cabin, and the Y class galley in front of the small rear Y class cabin. Not sure if there was any change in seating configuration when DL converted the -61s to -71s.

There were many optional galley/emergency exit layouts offered on the -60 series DC-8s. AC -61s and -63s and CP -63s had a first class lounge at the front on the right side, with the F class galley behind the lounge and 2 lavatories on the left side opposite the galley. That matched the standard DC-8-10 through -50 series configuration.

bpat777 · Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:56 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 38):
Viscount724

Thnx for the seating maps. 4 lavs in the back for all those coach passengers? And some people complain about the DL 739ER

flyforever · Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:43 am

I had never flown a Delta 757 and now I have a ticket with 3 757 Delta. I've flown already LAX-KOA with a 757-200 ex AT (funny fact is that the registration was N752AT). Now I'm flying with a 757 KOA-SEA and SEA-DTW but I don't none of them are -300. I'll let you know.

Flyforever

TW870 · Fri Jan 08, 2016 9:50 am

Quoting bpat777 (Reply 39):
Thnx for the seating maps. 4 lavs in the back for all those coach passengers? And some people complain about the DL 739ER

But the DC-8-61 would be way better that the 739. There is a complete, clear cross aisle that is separate from the galley that can be used as a waiting area for the 4 lavs on the DC-8. This DC-8 configuration resembles the UA 747-400s, which are excellent because the galley is abeam doors 4 L/R, and then the passengers wait for rear lavs abeam the cross aisle at 5 L/R. When I saw this DL DC-8 diagram, I was struck by how well it would work, with the mid-cabin galley in Y and then the complete cross aisle and lav waiting area at the back. The 739 is the opposite, with the lavs wedged into the aft passenger cabin with no waiting space for passengers.

Ty134A · Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:13 pm

try to get a seat in the forward part of the cabin, to catch the sound of the engines! here a few impressions of my trip with condor!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uEd0rtUYRw

N776AU · Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:22 pm

If you've never flown Delta's 757-300s or the 757-200s post-mods it's amazing. Those that have been through the process are like whole new airplanes. I love them.

superjeff · Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:31 pm

Quoting bpat777 (Reply 39):
Thnx for the seating maps. 4 lavs in the back for all those coach passengers? And some people complain about the DL 739ER

But there were also 3 lavs in the front on the UA configuration. I actually flew many UA '61's and Delta '61's and they were both very pleasant to fly on, even in coach. The extra legroom helped, and the fact that the series 60's did not have those awful Palomar seats.

greg3322 · Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:41 pm

Quoting delta762 (Thread starter):
I am finally checking off my last aircraft type on Delta in a few weeks. The 753 is my final box to check.

I don't know where you are sitting, but I have sat towards the back of one of these and it is really weird when taxiing. These things are so long, that you seem to go the other way when they make big turns on the ground. Hard to describe, but those that have experienced it know what I mean.

sspontak · Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:56 pm

Interesting the length of the L-1011 was 178' and the length of the DC-10 was 170'. That compares to the length of the 757-300 of 179' and the DC-8-61 of 187'. That shows the DC-8-61 was one long aircraft.

luckyone · Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:06 pm

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 35):
I flew on quite a few 60-series DC-8s (and a few re-engined -71s) and can't recall boarding or deplaning being unusually long. Also have to consider that average load factor in those days was seldom much above 60% so many flights were half full or less. Only charter carriers operated with the highest-density seating with about 250 seats, and those types of passengers were more interested in the fare than how long it took to board.Typical scheduled carrier 2-class configuration on the DC-8-61 and -63 was seldom much over 200 seats, little more than a full 737-800/900 on a LCC today. And Y class seat pitch then was usually 34 inches, 3 or 4 inches more than the usual Y seat pitch now. UA's re-engined DC-8-71 configuration had 200 seats, 26 F and 174 Y, compared to 234 seats on DL's 757-300.

I have a book on the DC-8 (or more appropriately had, as it's most likely now in a box somewhere in my parents' basement) that discussed United using two gates, and parking the aircraft along side the terminal. Which would never happen today.

Max capacity for a DC-8-60 was 259. It's 295 for a 753.

WALmsp · Fri Jan 08, 2016 5:50 pm

My experience on a 753 was with Continental rather than Delta, First on a redeye from LAX to EWR and then from IAH to LAX. I can definitely attest to the length of time it takes for boarding and de-boarding. As a disabled traveler, I am among the first to get on the plane and the last get off. On both flights, I said just a few rows behind L2 near the front of the Y cabin. Upon arrival, as we emptied the plane, the line of people coming up from behind my row felt endless. The fortunate part was that my connection in EWR was an hour and a half later so waiting for my turn to get off that flying pencil was a whole lot less stressful!

zmatt1 · Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:35 pm

Delta 757-351 N589NW operating MSP-PDX today as DL2163.

[Edited 2016-01-08 10:37:12]

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