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Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:44 pm

With over 200 replies in Australian Aviation Thread Part 134 (by qf789 Dec 14 2015 in Civil Aviation) Australia Aviation Thread Part 135 is now open

In Australian Aviation Part 134 we discussed

- QF expecting a $875-925 million profit in first half of 15/16
- JQ regularly cancelling MEL-PER flights
- SMH reports flight path modelling for Badgery's Vreek Airport
- diversions due to SYD weather
- Australia signs expanded air services agreement with Canada
- Possible additional services to Canada
- CA applies for daily CTU-SYD using A330-200 from June 2016
- QF increases MEL-SIN from daily to 10 weekly
- QF increase in international over the past year
- EY to fly 2 class 787-9 to PER from 1 June 2016
- QF restarts SFO
- QF working on partnership with Caltex for FF
- QF sending 737's to SIN for repaint
- Traffic congestion around Australia's major airports
- QF operating flights for JQ on PER-DPS
- MH sending 772's to PER & A380's to SYD
- AC increases BNE to daily
- JQ to serve Honiara from March 2016
- CZ running seasonal service between SZX and SYD between Jan and March 2016
- Airnorth to operate daily service to MEL & 3 weekly to CNS from Brisbane Wellcamp
- REX opens reservation for WA flights
- EY455 SYD-AUH returns to gate for security issue
- REX fleet operations
- EK aircraft going tech 2 A388 and 1 77W in less than a week
- QF operating Antarctica flight from MEL
- QR A340 visits SYD
- Which terminal Airnorth will use at MEL
- UA 772's going tech regularly in SYD
- AA's inflight product on SYD-LAX
- QF fleet issues 3 744's go tech in JNB, SFO & HND, A333's replace 744 to HND & HKG. More A332's operating to SIN
- QF63 routes through PER due to carrying replacement engine for stranded 744 in JNB
- Eva Air sends Hello KItty livery to BNE
- QF/AA looking at opening 2 new routes over the next 5 years
- VA to overnight aircraft at NCL
- Xiamen Airlines to commence flights to MEL in July 2016
- NZ CEO takes aim at QF for restarting SYD-SFO
- ATC question - do they handle all flight movements
- HX starts HKG-OOL
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sat Jan 09, 2016 3:51 pm

To continue on from last thread regarding what new routes we could see from QF Im thinking MEL-DFW would be at the top of the list

Im also curious to see what plans AA has planned for the 789 of which they start receiving late October this year. They could operate a MEL-LAX service and replace the 2 weekly 744 service operated by QF or could we see them operate a route from their fortress hub DFW
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sat Jan 09, 2016 5:26 pm

The idea of MEL-DFW in Y sounds pretty painful, at 14,444km would you not be looking at flight time at around 17hours?

Surely if Qantas was to do this route, they would need to have an look at doing an Ultra-LongHaul Configuration? Would people otherwise be willing to travel for 17hours in an 3-3-3 31" pitched 789?

Does anyone know what EDTO limit CASA has pre-approved for Qantas for the 789 entry of service? With NZ about to get 330 EDTO in June, surely Qantas would be starting at less?
 
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Sat Jan 09, 2016 7:52 pm

With QF acting as match maker, not only AA/QF and EK/QF revenue-sharing JV, but could it also be region-specific (for the moment) AA/QF/EK?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:35 pm

Quoting travelhound (Reply 209):

That's interesting, I know from working at NTL that Virgin's market share has improved a lot since JQ cancelled flights over their dispute about the landing fees, which has been sorted now. But Virgin have been putting on the larger 737-800 instead of the E190 a lot lately. Even QF upgraded to Q400's and have 4 daily flights some days.

Quoting skyhawkmatthew (Reply 210):
The joint-user airports are Darwin, Townsville and Williamtown.

Actually, Williamtown is a Military Airport. NTL have an operating agreement with the Department of Defence that allows them to use the base for RPT Flights. I still don't understand why they can't make it joint user, as it would take a lot of hassle of the RAAF for the extra services they supply.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:44 pm

Well it looks like the rumour came true, according to Airlineroute.net AirAsiaX will extend their existing Kuala Lumpur-Gold Coast flights on to Auckland from March:

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Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:08 pm

Quoting mpj (Reply 4):
I still don't understand why they can't make it joint user, as it would take a lot of hassle of the RAAF for the extra services they supply.

How's that???

Incidentally, LEA is in the same boat as NTL, as is KTR.
 
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Sun Jan 10, 2016 12:04 am

Quoting QF175 (Reply 5):
Well it looks like the rumour came true, according to Airlineroute.net AirAsiaX will extend their existing Kuala Lumpur-Gold Coast flights on to Auckland from March:

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Do they have 5th freedom in this sector? If so I imagine there are some unhappy faces in JQ and NZ this morning.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:05 am

Quoting a320fan (Reply 7):
Do they have 5th freedom in this sector? If so I imagine there are some unhappy faces in JQ and NZ this morning.

Will probably just see NZ run an AKL-OOL-KUL service with an 763 until there gone, It will be MH that is more worried as they have just made AKL-KUL daily with an 330.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:06 am

From previous thread...

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 214):
Quoting EK413 (Reply 199):

I hate to say it, but this comment is very short slighted. Who would pick UA? Any frequent flyer in the Bay Area. And UA have a hub at SFO to feed their flights so they're less reliant on O&D.

You definitely misread my comments I was referring to product offerings on the International sector... I'm sure the product offering on the B777 fleet is an improvement but QF would have a far more superior product...

Quoting qf789 (Thread starter):
issues 3 744's go tech in JNB, SFO & HND, A333's replace 744 to HND & HKG. More A332's operating to SIN

Worth noting the 3rd B747 went tech in SYD for several weeks not HND.  

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Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:09 am

Quoting EK413 (Reply 9):
You definitely misread my comments I was referring to product offerings on the International sector... I'm sure the product offering on the B777 fleet is an improvement but QF would have a far more superior product...

Aren't these flights becoming an 789 later on this year? so the Y hard product wouldn't be to much different from Qantas.
 
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Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:29 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 8):
Will probably just see NZ run an AKL-OOL-KUL service with an 763 until there gone, It will be MH that is more worried as they have just made AKL-KUL daily with an 330.

Really... NZ will respond to D7 with their own AKL-OOL-KUL service? I don't think so, why would NZ need to respond, they aren't currently serving KUL so why respond to a D7 tag on service from OOL?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:43 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 8):

Would love to know what your drinking/taking to think of that! There is no way NZ will introduce a KUL service from OOL considering D7 is way cheaper with way lower costs
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:45 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 10):
Quoting EK413 (Reply 9):
You definitely misread my comments I was referring to product offerings on the International sector... I'm sure the product offering on the B777 fleet is an improvement but QF would have a far more superior product...

Aren't these flights becoming an 789 later on this year? so the Y hard product wouldn't be to much different from Qantas.

Correct which brings their offering to par with QF but for the time being QF definitely have the better product...

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:23 am

Quoting a320fan (Reply 7):
f so I imagine there are some unhappy faces in JQ and NZ this morning.

I wish Air Asia X better luck in NZ than it had last time.

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Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:34 am

Thinking more about this, they must have 5th freedom or I don't think this route would make sense. Unless they are suffering low loads on the OOL route and hope they can boost that by the AKL pax. Even then it's a long tag flight just to pick up some extra pax. I expect this is largely targeted for local traffic (presuming 5th freedom rights). That will really hurt the local competitors JQ, VA & NZ particularly JQ who has the most to loose from budget conscious pax choosing D7. A D7 A333 is a lot of seats to fill and I imagine a lot been sold cheap. Perhaps we will see a JQ 787 on OOL-AKL and a period of insane low fares as they try to push D7 out of the market?    Makes more sense than NZ on OOL-KUL.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:54 am

Quoting EK413 (Reply 13):
Correct which brings their offering to par with QF but for the time being QF definitely have the better product.

I disagree. The hard product is pretty comparable from nose to tail. Both offer a herringbone style, but not enclosed suite, product in F, they both have a lie flat product without all aisle access in J, and they both offer comparable legroom and AVOD in Y. QF offer W, and their AVOD system is better but that's the end of it as far as I can see. Now, Qantas definitely have a superior soft product but that's not what you were talking about.

The J product on the 787 is probably better than the 777 and the AVOD system is much better, but the difference between the UA 777 and 787s really isn't that big, the removal of F notwithstanding.

Quoting EK413 (Reply 9):
You definitely misread my comments I was referring to product offerings on the International sector

No I don't thing that I did misread your comments. No matter how good Qantas is compared to United, United have far and away the upper hand on SFO-SYD. To suggest otherwise is facile.

Quoting Planesmart (Reply 3):
could it also be region-specific (for the moment) AA/QF/EK?

AA are doing a pretty little dance between QR and EY, seemingly getting tantalisingly close to both but committing to neither. IMHO they prefer to play this game than to enter a full blown partnership with one to maximise the potential connection opportunities. Either way EK aren't in contention.
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Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:07 am

Quoting a320fan (Reply 15):
I expect this is largely targeted for local traffic (presuming 5th freedom rights). That will really hurt the local competitors JQ, VA & NZ particularly JQ who has the most to loose from budget conscious pax choosing D7.

Well - maybe.

The theory is that Air Asia X will bring a lot of its own trans-Tasman pax with it. LCC's usually stimulate the market, to a greater or lesser extent.

That probably doesn't work for trans-Tasman, which is fairly saturated, but it may - may - hold for KUL-(OOL)-AKL - tourists from Malaysia getting two bites of the cherry, perhaps.

After all, Air Asia X did think it could stimulate KUL-CHC, and perhaps it might have - except there had just been a massive earthquake, which the airline either ignored or discounted.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:09 am

Quoting EK413 (Reply 9):
Worth noting the 3rd B747 went tech in SYD for several weeks not HND.  

To be fair, OJM was actually in maintenance rather than 'gone tech'...
 
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Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:05 am

Quoting mariner (Reply 17):
After all, Air Asia X did think it could stimulate KUL-CHC, and perhaps it might have - except there had just been a massive earthquake, which the airline either ignored or discounted.

D7 managed to achieve some impressive load factors on their KUL-CHC flights, they just had to sacrifice too much yield to do it! KUL-OOL-AKL is a much safer route for them, OOL is well established and the KUL-AKL and OOL-AKL markets are well established already.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:33 am

Quoting CHCalfonzo (Reply 19):
D7 managed to achieve some impressive load factors on their KUL-CHC flights, they just had to sacrifice too much yield to do it!

In which the earthquake played no small part, Christchurch was scarcely a "tourist town" at that time.

But yes, despite that, they averaged 80% load factor and the critical thing is that there wasn't a lot of outbound tourism from CHC then, people leaving were leaving permanently and not many to Malaysia. This suggests that there is a fair ol' swag of Malaysian traffic to NZ. and the competitor - Malaysian - does well out of AKL, although there is pressure on yield again, they are having to discount, sometimes quite deeply:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/6...il-to-deter-New-Zealand-travellers

"Malaysia Airlines tragedies fail to deter New Zealand travellers

Malaysia Airlines is filling its flights to and from New Zealand despite the carrier facing financial turmoil and the effects of two high profile disasters last year.

But travel agents and an aviation analyst say the airline has been offering deep discounts to attract passengers after the mysterious disappearance of flight MH370, thought to have crashed off the West Australian coast in March last year and the shooting down of MH17 over Ukraine last July."


CAPA thinks that the main pressure from Air Asia X will be on Malaysian. I can't argue with that, but I'm not totally convinced that Malaysian will lose, since fares are already reasonable on the full service carrier - and it's a non-stop. I do think that there are tourists who will want OOL and AKL but I'm not so sure about Kiwis wanting OOL and KUL.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:04 am

Interesting reference in a report from CAPA to Jetstar submitting an offer for Skymark.

http://centreforaviation.com/analysi...-invaluable-skymark-support-260531
 
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Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:01 am

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Interesting reference in a report from CAPA to Jetstar submitting an offer for Skymark.

What "version" of the A380 is in question here? Is it possible ANA would lease these ac, if so, to whom???
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Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:59 am

I've come across a lot of kiwis in south east Asia in my years of travelling. It will be interesting to see if they are as fickle as a large portion of Australian travellers who want one thing and that's cheap as possible. (And to complain when said LCC cancels or is delayed.)


Also something not discussed a lot is that the decision on the proposed ILS at OOL is due later this month. Mr Truss is currently deciding which way to swing. There's been a small but relatively vocal campaign on the coast against it, with just over 1000 'likers' on their Facebook page. They throw out some silly claims backed by "facts" such as 60,000 residents will be subjected to 100 flights a day screaming over their head, that ALL aircraft WILL use the ILS 100% of the time... It's funny how much ignorance there is really.
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Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:10 pm

QF767 BNE-PER diverted to ADL tonight, looks like a medical diversion
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Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:29 pm

Quoting thai77w (Reply 23):
I've come across a lot of kiwis in south east Asia in my years of travelling. It will be interesting to see if they are as fickle as a large portion of Australian travellers who want one thing and that's cheap as possible. (And to complain when said LCC cancels or is delayed.)

Not forgetting that JQ failed on AKL-SIN, they couldn't even fill it at $199NZD a seat. Although it could not helped that JQ had an pretty poor rep with the New Zealand market.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:23 am

There's a new start-up trying to get off the ground - Airly - heavily based on the US "airline" Surf Air.

It's like a club - for rich people. You pay $1000 joining fee and $2500 a month in return for unlimited free flights Melbourne (Essendon) to Sydney (Bankstown) and Canberra:

http://www.9news.com.au/national/201...ed-flights-between-sydney-and-melb

Start-up promises 'unlimited' flights between Sydney and Melbourne for a monthly fee

The company, Airly, plans to invite members to pay a once-off $1000 joining fee and a $2,500 monthly fee to access unlimited flights between Sydney’s Bankstown Airport, Melbourne’s Essendon Airport and Canberra, the Sydney Morning Herald reports."


They plan to sue a King Air A350 - (Surf Air in the US uses the Pilatus PC-12) - and it doesn't say how much money they're trying to raise, but Surf Air has some wealthy backers.

I don't know if there's a market for it here - they are looking for "several hundred" members - but 10 out of 10 for effort, I guess.

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Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:14 am

CZ operational changes

CAN-SYD which was planned to be 3 daily year round, then reduced to 17 weekly has now been reduced to 2 daily for NS16

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Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:09 am

Quoting mariner (Reply 26):
It's like a club - for rich people. You pay $1000 joining fee and $2500 a month in return for unlimited free flights Melbourne (Essendon) to Sydney (Bankstown) and Canberra:
Quoting mariner (Reply 26):
They plan to sue a King Air A350 - (Surf Air in the US uses the Pilatus PC-12) - and it doesn't say how much money they're trying to raise, but Surf Air has some wealthy backers.

Part of their selling point is that they offer an approx. 2 hour round trip saving vs taking a normal commercial flight out of SYD/MEL. I'd be interested to see how they've calculated that time saving, given the flight times will be slower than a commercial flight (turboprop vs jet). I wonder if people will be willing to sit in a turboprop vs a A320/737/A330 that QF/VA/JQ use.
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Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:55 am

The Australian Financial Review's Rear Window has just reported that Singapore Airlines is set to announce 4x weekly Singapore-Canberra A330 flights teamed with a Canberra-Wellington leg.

Exciting news for Canberra Airport and Canberrans if true.
 
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Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:35 pm

Quoting qf789 (Reply 32):
Good news for Canberra. Here's the link

http://www.afr.com/brand/rear-window...lights-to-canberra-20160111-gm3dju

Wow, good news for Canberran's. I for one was doubtful the first international service would be on a widebody (I was thinking more likely a narrowbody across the ditch to NZ). But happy to have been proven wrong.

Will be interesting to see how the flight composition will be made up of on the onward leg to SIN, will it be half WLG and half CBR or will we see more SIN passengers being weighted to CBR?

Thinking aloud, could SQ have done AKL-CBR-SIN? This would've no doubt cannabilised a bit of their direct AKL-SIN service, but would've opened up CBR-AKL which undoubtedly is the bigger market vs CBR-WLG. Whilst a 4x weekly doesn't do much in terms of connections, it would've given NZ a nice free kick by potentially directing some CBR passengers across the Pacific on NZ via AKL (flight times/connection time dependent).
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:55 pm

Quoting pblaketas (Reply 31):

Exciting news for Canberra Airport and Canberrans if true.

It's finally happening!

Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 33):

Will be interesting to see how the flight composition will be made up of on the onward leg to SIN, will it be half WLG and half CBR or will we see more SIN passengers being weighted to CBR?

Genius move by SQ, they can tap into decent traffic between Wellington and Canberra. Must remember that many embassies in Canberra are also responsible for New Zealand. Probably not 1200 seats a week worth but hopefully enough high yield. Most trans-tasman flying is decidedly low yield. Emirates has flooded AKL, JQ is big to CHC with EK also having the Sydney flight.

WLG is the only one without an Asian carrier and a CBR leg may work well.

I'm going to guess there may be a few possibilities for connections from ADL/PER/HBA on VA.

For Canberra's sake I very much hope this works, I count myself among the doubters in the past and this has definitely come out of left field.
 
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Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:39 pm

I also count myself among the doubters, at least in so far as I thought VA or perhaps NZ across the ditch was CBR's best, if not only, hope. I did not expect 4x weekly A330 to SIN... but, if it's true, this will be great news & I'm keen to see it work out! I, for one, would use it just to see it stay. And I would like to think I will be there to cheer on the first arrival!

FWIW, I guess maybe SQ's propensity for risk is higher (and potentially their cost base lower) than VA & NZ who will probably be watching this 'experiment' with interest and the Americas in the back of their minds.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:45 pm

Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 33):
could SQ have done AKL-CBR-SIN?

AKL seems a bit too circuitous, and a bit overkill with connections already from SYD at least. As I said in my previous post, I'mthinking VA / NZ are probably watchihg with a E190 / B738 / A320 connection to AKL in mind. And, as QFA380 suggests, I wonder if VA will also be announcing some new domestic routes...
 
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Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:35 pm

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 34):
Genius move by SQ, they can tap into decent traffic between Wellington and Canberra. Must remember that many embassies in Canberra are also responsible for New Zealand. Probably not 1200 seats a week worth but hopefully enough high yield. Most trans-tasman flying is decidedly low yield. Emirates has flooded AKL, JQ is big to CHC with EK also having the Sydney flight.

I agree very creative!! Curious how they will manage lounge facilities, hopefully we see a bit more expansion with economies of scale. I'm sure many high yield pax will be very happy in SQ J across the ditch!!
 
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Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:05 pm

Quoting QFA380 (Reply 34):
I'm going to guess there may be a few possibilities for connections from ADL/PER/HBA on VA.

As for PER, what connections?

VA have no flight to CBR yet, and anyone wanting to fly to WLG might as well go via one of the other East Coast cities.

It's not that I can't see VA operating PER-CBR successfully, I just don't see what a flight to WLG achieves.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:14 pm

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 35):
I thought VA or perhaps NZ across the ditch was CBR's best, if not only, hope. I did not expect 4x weekly A330 to SIN... but, if it's true, this will be great news & I'm keen to see it work out!

  

Well said!

I wish SQ well and hope the route(s) work.

Smart move by them to pick WLG over AKL.

So going from no Intl flights in CBR to having a flight to Asia and NZ from the same carrier thanks to good aircraft utilization is great IMHO.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:24 am

Further to Airnorth's upcoming services out of Wellcamp, is there any truth to or confirmation of suggestions on other forums that they have acquired (or will acquire) a 5th E170? From their schedules, it looks like it would be needed fairly soon to cover all their flying.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:05 am

SQ eyes more flights to SYD & MEL

Sydney’s SQ251/252 service, which typically runs three days a week outside of the peak summer season, is likely to become a permanent daily service, Tan says.

Melbourne could also see a fifth daily flight or a long-term return of the Airbus A380 superjumbo


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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:02 am

SQ to add 4th flight to BNE initially 3 weekly from 28 May 2016 with plans of it going daily later in the year, previously this flight has been run on a temporary basis during peak periods

SQ265 SIN655-1645BNE 333 146
SQ266 BNE1800-20+1SIN 333 146

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:20 pm

On the SQ flights into CBR, what sort of impact do we think this is going to have on the CBR-SYD/CBR-MEL etc flights? Id think that there would be a not insignificant amount of connection traffic on this route no? Might we see flight reductions?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:26 pm

Quoting QF2220 (Reply 43):

On the SQ flights into CBR, what sort of impact do we think this is going to have on the CBR-SYD/CBR-MEL etc flights? Id think that there would be a not insignificant amount of connection traffic on this route no? Might we see flight reductions?

I don't think so.

There is still a huge amount of domestic connecting and SYD/MEL O&D traffic, not to mention traffic going elsewhere in south-east Asia, other ports in NZ (although it may be easier to connect in WLG than SYD?), and the Americas. Passengers heading to Singapore or Europe who are high-tier QF FFs will probably still rather connect through SYD/MEL on QF.

Additionally, a large part of the reason for the enormous volume of flights between especially SYD and CBR is flexibility. We may see more downgauges on the days SQ operates but I don't think there will be much of a frequency reduction, if any. That said, it is not infrequent to see two CBR flights amalgamated if loads are light; we may end up seeing more of that too.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:00 pm

Quoting skyhawkmatthew (Reply 44):

Thanks for this

Anyone know what the proportion of connecting pax is from CBR?
 
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Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:14 am

I just got an e-mail from Air Asia about sales on OOL-AKL.

Is this a new route?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:24 am

Was parked at Bay 7 in DRW yesterday and could see the tail of an A340 in Airbus A340 livery, who owns that? It was parked up near all the Air North Planes.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Thu Jan 14, 2016 12:37 am

Quoting JQflightie (Reply 47):
Was parked at Bay 7 in DRW yesterday and could see the tail of an A340 in Airbus A340 livery, who owns that? It was parked up near all the Air North Planes.

It's Airbus' F-WWAI. Not a clue what it's doing here but it's been doing some interesting flying around the NT.  http://flightaware.com/live/flight/F...I/history/20160113/0630Z/YPDN/YPDN
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:16 am

Quoting skyhawkmatthew (Reply 48):
It's Airbus' F-WWAI. Not a clue what it's doing here but it's been doing some interesting flying around the NT. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/F.../YPDN

Nice!

Maybe doing some test flights after a few mods / upgrades - now that oil prices are expected to keep dropping we might see a return of some parked A340s after a bit of tweaking    

Just kidding, but wouldn't it be nice to see more quads back in action...
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