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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:39 am

Quoting sydscott (Reply 97):
For Hong Kong it is a slot and utilisation issue

I would have thought times similar to JW would be easier to get slots at HKG, so you might be right about the synergies with 3K/BL.

Quoting sydscott (Reply 97):
The question is what's next and I'd say it's probably a new domestic base along with some leisure oriented routes

I'm inclined to agree that GK would add another base, OKA seemingly a prime target. MM is growing at OKA and NH has a larger presence than JL. I'd also expect GK take over some of the tags that 3K are operating. Although 3K should have lower labour costs, the layover costs in Japan would not be insignificant. It's probably cheaper to have the 3K crews operate SIN-TPE-SIN than SIN-TPE-KIX.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:07 am

Quoting flylonghaul (Reply 94):
QF1 is operating with a ~15 hour delay ex SYD, departed at 8:21am this morning.

Anyone know why?

Combination of engineering, crew hours & Sydney wx...

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 95):
VH-OQF had an issue earlier this week (yesterday or Wednesday). Could be related?

Operating aircraft was -OQG not -OQF  

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:21 am

Quoting EK413 (Reply 101):
Quoting flylonghaul (Reply 94):QF1 is operating with a ~15 hour delay ex SYD, departed at 8:21am this morning.

Anyone know why?
Combination of engineering, crew hours & Sydney wx...

Quoting DeltaB717 (Reply 95):VH-OQF had an issue earlier this week (yesterday or Wednesday). Could be related?

Operating aircraft was -OQG not -OQF

Also EK413 AKL-SYD diverted to MEL due to weather then up to SYD however by the time it arrived in SYD it was too late to turnaround to continue on to DXB therefore it overnighted and operated this morning's EK415. Last nights EK414 did a quick turnaround to operate EK413 SYD-DXB via MEL as there was insufficient time for catering in SYD before missing the curfew.

http://www.theeksource.com/emirates-...-over-ek413-diverts-via-melbourne/

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:56 am

Turning around EK414 to operate EK413 is crazy! Forget catering, I'm surprised they even had time to deplane the entire aircraft let alone board it again as well. Kudos to the ground crew for getting it off again so soon.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:32 pm

Quoting qf789 (Reply 102):
Last nights EK414 did a quick turnaround to operate EK413 SYD-DXB via MEL as there was insufficient time for catering in SYD before missing the curfew.

Second time in the past few weeks that has happened!
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:39 pm

Now this is pleasing to see... Effective 30 May 2016 Silkair will decouple Darwin and Cairns and will instead operate nonstop flights to both ports. From this date Cairns will see 3x weekly flights with 5x weekly flights to Darwin:

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:34 pm

Air New Zealand has suspended flights to Vanuatu because of the condition of the runway.

Now Qantas has suspended its codeshare with Air Vanuatu for the same reason:

http://www.afr.com/business/tourism/...er-safety-concerns-20160122-gmc5if

"Qantas halts codeshare with Air Vanuatu over runway concerns

Qantas has suspended its codeshare with Air Vanuatu effective immediately over concerns about the conditions of the country's international runway at Port Vila that led Air New Zealand to suspend its services.

The Australian carrier will no longer sell Air Vanuatu's flights from Sydney and Brisbane to Port Vila on its website."


The cyclone caused tremendous damage on the islands, and here's hoping they can find some m way to get things back in shape. It doesn't help that half the government MP's have been jailed for corruption, leading to the present election.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:36 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 84):
Quoting EK413 (Reply 72):
I guess we can agree to disagree then
Quoting EK413 (Reply 72):
I last flew UA in 2002

Having done six long haul flights on United last year, I feel that my experience is slightly more topical.

Agreed.

Quoting qf789 (Reply 102):
Also EK413 AKL-SYD diverted to MEL due to weather then up to SYD however by the time it arrived in SYD it was too late to turnaround to continue on to DXB therefore it overnighted and operated this morning's EK415. Last nights EK414 did a quick turnaround to operate EK413 SYD-DXB via MEL as there was insufficient time for catering in SYD before missing the curfew.
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 103):
Turning around EK414 to operate EK413 is crazy! Forget catering, I'm surprised they even had time to deplane the entire aircraft let alone board it again as well. Kudos to the ground crew for getting it off again so soon.

Impressive aircraft utilisation if you ask me.

This wasn't the 1st time EK pull this stunt. The SYD curfew needs flexibility when nature causes major disruptions...

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:09 am

Quoting qf789 (Reply 102):
Also EK413 AKL-SYD diverted to MEL due to weather then up to SYD however by the time it arrived in SYD it was too late to turnaround to continue on to DXB therefore it overnighted and operated this morning's EK415. Last nights EK414 did a quick turnaround to operate EK413 SYD-DXB via MEL as there was insufficient time for catering in SYD before missing the curfew.

Wow, AKL-MEL-SYD-MEL-DXB on the one flight number with 2 different ac. A great way to clock up the mileage. I just wonder about the timing of the op decisions that were made, before or after dep to SYD. If it was made before the dep, would it have been possible for the pax that were going to DXB to remain in MEL airside until the arrival of the other ac from SYD?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:36 am

Quoting TN486 (Reply 108):
I just wonder about the timing of the op decisions that were made, before or after dep to SYD.

The flight was approximately 40 minutes from SYD before the decision was made to divert to MEL.



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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sat Jan 23, 2016 8:12 am

Quoting qfvhoqa (Reply 96):
I note that the MNL & TPE flights are red-eyes but HKG is not. I wonder why they haven't gone for increased utilisation by flying overnight.
Quoting sydscott (Reply 97):

For Hong Kong it is a slot and utilisation issue.

CX and many european carriers depart HKG 2300 - 0130, so there are no slots.

MNL has a different bank, with most of their evening flights to USA etc departing by 2230 with much less activity 2200-0400 than HKG.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:16 am

Was lucky enough to go airside yesterday, shame about the weather...:cheers:


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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sun Jan 24, 2016 12:20 am

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Great pics mate!

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Sun Jan 24, 2016 1:52 am

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:14 am

Came back from overseas today and saw the ex-VA 73H repainted in TT colors at the VA maintenance base at MEL. I don't know the registration used but it looks pretty schmick. No photos sorry as I was in the van going back to the off-site car park.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:17 am

Quoting flylonghaul (Reply 94):
QF1 is operating with a ~15 hour delay ex SYD, departed at 8:21am this morning.

Anyone know why?

OQG was coming out of overnight maintenance and apparently had a computer problem they couldn't fix. Then storms hit SYD and ground ops were suspended around 6.00pm... And the decision was made to reschedule for a delayed overnight 8.00am as with crew hours and the tech delay there was possibility of not departing Thursday prior to curfew.

QF1D departed SYD three crew down too!

We landed in LHR Friday evening at 9.20 ish (after circling some 25 minutes over London).

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:43 am

This flight just popped up on my radar https://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL2052

Looks like the UA flight that was divided to Sydney on Friday?
 
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Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:48 am

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:39 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 112):

Great pics mate!

Keep them coming!  

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:19 am

Quoting thai77w (Reply 118):
As you wish!!

Pics @ OOL, right???
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Sun Jan 24, 2016 11:37 am

Quoting 777Jet (Reply 119):
Quoting thai77w (Reply 118):As you wish!!
Pics @ OOL, right???

Answering for thai77w, indeed they are at OOL.

Nice shots as well.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:24 am

Quoting mariner (Reply 106):
Air New Zealand has suspended flights to Vanuatu because of the condition of the runway.

Now Qantas has suspended its codeshare with Air Vanuatu for the same reason:

VA however will continue flying to VLI. Port Vila runway surface causes Air NZ to suspend flights and Qantas to end codeshares while Virgin maintains services
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:32 am

Quoting qfvhoqa (Reply 121):
VA however will continue flying to VLI. Port Vila runway surface causes Air NZ to suspend flights and Qantas to end codeshares while Virgin maintains services

That one will be an interesting one at the next VA board meeting.

You would think if NZ and QF have both said its un-safe VA would have the same standards?

Its there less of an risk with the 738, than an A320?
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:35 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 123):
That one will be an interesting one at the next VA board meeting.

You would think if NZ and QF have both said its un-safe VA would have the same standards?

Its there less of an risk with the 738, than an A320?

I wonder if the route was not making money for NZ? Seems it was only 1x weekly even during peak season, now that's all but over and with the added runway issues they decided to jump ship.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:59 am

I somehow feel that QF's position is largely grand standing, and a knee jerk reaction to NZ to make it look like they're tough on safety. If the runway condition is unsafe then that must be addressed ASAP, don't get me wrong, but there aren't any fewer flights from Australia to Port Vila as a result of QF's decision.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:03 am

Quoting QF15 (Reply 124):
Seems it was only 1x weekly even during peak season

Actually, it's been 2x weekly during the peak seasons. IIRC even 3x at one point, or am I mistaken there?
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:15 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 125):
I somehow feel that QF's position is largely grand standing, and a knee jerk reaction to NZ to make it look like they're tough on safety. If the runway condition is unsafe then that must be addressed ASAP, don't get me wrong, but there aren't any fewer flights from Australia to Port Vila as a result of QF's decision.

Not from Australia, perhaps, but one less from NZ, and it's pretty bad. Air NZ was sufficiently concerned to send tech experts to Vanuatu to oversee the last flight out:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/news/7...ervice-due-to-runway-concerns.html

"Air New Zealand technical experts are being sent to Port Vila to provide additional oversight for Sunday's arrival into and departure from Port Vila."

An excess of caution, perhaps? Or maybe - just maybe - it's the push that Vanuatu needs to do the work. The World Bank had $59 million standing by to fix the runway but it seems there was "disagreement" in the changed Vanuatu governments as to who should get the contract.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:40 am

Quoting mariner (Reply 127):
Air NZ was sufficiently concerned to send tech experts to Vanuatu to oversee the last flight out:

Oh I totally understand, and I commend Air New Zealand for their action. Putting safety first should be everyone's priority. I guess my point is that a 737 load of passengers are at "risk", however assessed and defined, regardless of whether QF codeshare with NF or not. NZ took meaningful action to reduce that risk, QF put out a press release that makes them look good but actually achieves virtually nothing.

It almost makes me think that they wanted to terminate their agreement with NF anyway, and just found a convenient excuse to do so.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:03 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 128):
It almost makes me think that they wanted to terminate their agreement with NF anyway, and just found a convenient excuse to do so.

Good point, I wonder if we may see JQ start a SYD-VLI sometime in the future once the problem is sorted out. Correct me if I wrong but somewhat similar to when they pulled out of their Air Pacific partnership and started up NAN a few years ago.

As a side note I think if it was that bad Transavia might be asking for their plane back from NF...
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:56 am

Quoting QF15 (Reply 129):
Correct me if I wrong but somewhat similar to when they pulled out of their Air Pacific partnership

The Qantas/Fiji Airways partnership is still alive and well. Qantas still code share on SYD/MEL/BNE-NAN and NAN-LAX, NAN is a permitted stopover on QF fares to the US, and Fiji Airways is the only non-OneWorld carrier that earns status credits in the Qantas Frequent Flyer program.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:00 am

Just curious if anyone sees ADL getting TPAC service in the near/midterm? Even HNL would be nice.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:06 am

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 131):
Just curious if anyone sees ADL getting TPAC service in the near/midterm? Even HNL would be nice.

No.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Mon Jan 25, 2016 6:41 pm

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 128):
NZ took meaningful action to reduce that risk, QF put out a press release that makes them look good but actually achieves virtually nothing.

I'm confused.

Since Qantas doesn't fly its own metal to Vanuatu, I'm not sure what else you would have them do?

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Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:27 pm

Quoting QF15 (Reply 124):
I wonder if the route was not making money for NZ? Seems it was only 1x weekly even during peak season, now that's all but over and with the added runway issues they decided to jump ship.

Its 1x weekly in Summer, and 2-3x weekly in Winter and on top of that they code-shared on NF's 3x weekly service.

The loss to NF will be the NZ code-share, you would probably find an reasonable amount of passengers would be have been ticketed by NZ rather than directly than NF.


For NF having there flights sold on the NZ website, was probably very valuable in the New Zealand market.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:15 pm

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 125):

Im interested to know what is happening with all the current tickets sold on the codeshare yet to fly? They will still be active tickets/codeshare flights no?
 
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Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:07 am

Quoting QF2220 (Reply 135):
Im interested to know what is happening with all the current tickets sold on the codeshare yet to fly? They will still be active tickets/codeshare flights no?
http://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/qan...ices-tofrom-port-vila-vanuatu-vli/

Due to concerns over the condition of the runway at Port Vila International Airport in Vanuatu, Qantas is suspending its codeshare agreement with Air Vanuatu effective immediately.
We apologise for any inconvenience this might cause.
Customers can receive a full refund, change their destination, keep the value of their booking as credit to use at a later date or book a new ticket with Air Vanuatu.


Based on what QF have posted on their website the codeshare has already been cancelled completely. Tickets will not be able to be flown on but they will be able to be refunded or used as a credit.

[Edited 2016-01-25 16:09:09]
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Tue Jan 26, 2016 12:21 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 134):
you would probably find an reasonable amount of passengers would be have been ticketed by NZ rather than directly than NF.


For NF having there flights sold on the NZ website, was probably very valuable in the New Zealand market.

I doubt it, personally. Almost all tickets would have been issued through travel agents, be it bricks and mortar or online, as part of a 'package'. Without the historical cultural and economic links between Vanuatu and New Zealand compared to Samoa, Tonga etc, there would have been relatively few direct sales.

Quoting QF2220 (Reply 135):
Im interested to know what is happening with all the current tickets sold on the codeshare yet to fly?

As per advice to the industry: passengers may (1) tickets reisued on the same flights coded as NF, or (2) change ticket and/or hold value of ticket in credit for use to an alternative destination, or (3) apply for a full refund.

http://www.qantas.com/agents/dyn/qf/info/201601/0118

Quote:
For customers holding a Qantas (081) issued ticket:

SYDVLI and BNEVLI (and vice versa)
Passengers may, without fee:

Rebook to alternative flight using:

Air Vanuatu service with ‘NF’ flight number operated by Air Vanuatu.

Change destinations

The value of the existing ticket can be used towards the purchase of a new ticket. If the new fare is more expensive than the existing ticketed fares, the fare difference is payable by the passenger. Applicable surcharges, fees and taxes may apply.

Retain the value of the ticket in credit

Retain the value of the ticket in credit for future travel within 12 months from the original ticketed date of departure. If the new fare is more expensive than the existing ticketed fare, the fare difference is payable by the passenger. Applicable surcharges, fees and taxes may apply.
Refunds

For customers who have commenced their journey, a full refund of the affected sector(s) will be available


Conditions

All changes must be made prior to the original ticketed departure.

Travel dates must be within ticket validity.

If the same booking class is not available, the lowest booking class within the same cabin may be booked (e.g. within Business or Economy cabin).

All other rules and conditions of the ticket remain unchanged.

Customers are permitted to make changes as outlined in this policy. Any subsequent changes made after the ticket is reissued will be subject to the rules and conditions of the original ticketed fare purchased.

Qantas will not be responsible for paying any other costs or expenses such as hotel or other ground operator fees arising due to events beyond our control, unless required by applicable laws.

Refund requests must be submitted no later than 30 April 2016
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:30 am

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QF6601 did a flyover up the coast then over the harbour today.

It did a spectacular take of from the not often used RWY07

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:39 am

Quoting kiwiandrew (Reply 136):
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 137):

Thankyou both - I should have checked myself!
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Tue Jan 26, 2016 8:52 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 137):
I doubt it, personally. Almost all tickets would have been issued through travel agents, be it bricks and mortar or online, as part of a 'package'. Without the historical cultural and economic links between Vanuatu and New Zealand compared to Samoa, Tonga etc, there would have been relatively few direct sales.

New Zealand is different slightly to Australia, when it comes to booking travel within New Zealand apart from Flight Centre travel agents have slowly disappeared.

The majority of all NZ's short-haul bookings are done online directly.



Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 137):
As per advice to the industry: passengers may (1) tickets reisued on the same flights coded as NF, or (2) change ticket and/or hold value of ticket in credit for use to an alternative destination, or (3) apply for a full refund.

Interesting one, so Qantas is saying the airport is un-safe yet will sell you an NF issued ticket? Wouldn't this say open them to some legal issues should say the aircraft did crash on the unsafe runway?

NZ is refusing to re-book passengers on NF issued tickets, as they said its not safe to use that runway without it being paired.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:55 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 140):
New Zealand is different slightly to Australia, when it comes to booking travel within New Zealand apart from Flight Centre travel agents have slowly disappeared.

How is that different to Australia? when it comes to booking travel within Australia the majority of people book it online directly as well. Likewise, most smaller travel agents have disappeared....apart from the biggie Flight Centre.

The point at hand is still the same for New Zealanders, going to overseas holiday islands in the Pacific or further afield, high volumes of this traffic is sold through travel agents who sell holiday packages (including online travel sites, as opposed to airline or hotel direct).

Quoting zkncj (Reply 140):
Interesting one, so Qantas is saying the airport is un-safe yet will sell you an NF issued ticket? Wouldn't this say open them to some legal issues should say the aircraft did crash on the unsafe runway?

Interesting point, though I guess by pulling their codeshare and ultimately 'cancelling' the booking, and not automatically rebooking, they are giving the option and decision to the passengers. No doubt with an explanation so the passengers are aware and can make their own decision on risk. I take it QF not be actively selling/issuing tickets outside this scenario to VLI, only making it easier for the passengers who still wish to travel on NF who had originally planned to go, otherwise those same pax would take the refund and rebook anyway). I'd be curious to see what sort of disclaimer they issue to passengers who choose to rebook, there must be something in there to cover them from a legal perspective to dissolve any liability.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:07 am

Interesting article posted to PlaneTalking today (take it as you will):

Qantas 787-9s said to offer dreamy comfy 235 seat count
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:11 am

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 125):
I somehow feel that QF's position is largely grand standing, and a knee jerk reaction to NZ

I'm beginning to agree with you.
A check of Qantas.com shows that QF won't sell you a ticket to VLI on NF's 737 (as can be expected, given their announcement). Qantas.com will sell you a ticket with a flight on NF's or FJ's ATR, but I believe the runway is safe for turboprops. When it comes to award tickets though, QF will still allow you to redeem Qantas points for a flight on NF's 737 to VLI.   
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Tue Jan 26, 2016 11:17 am

Quoting zkncj (Reply 140):
Interesting one, so Qantas is saying the airport is un-safe yet will sell you an NF issued ticket?

Hence my initial point, Qantas' position can almost be summarised as "it is so dangerous we're not going to stop anyone landing there".

Quoting qfvhoqa (Reply 143):
When it comes to award tickets though, QF will still allow you to redeem Qantas points for a flight

To be fair that could just be an oversight where nobody thought to remove it from the booking engine.

Quoting QF175 (Reply 142):
Interesting article posted to PlaneTalking today (take it as you will):

I'll believe it when I see it. If the Qantas 789s have anything less than a "dreamy, comfy" 250 passengers then the next round is on me.

Quoting zkncj (Reply 140):
New Zealand is different slightly to Australia, when it comes to booking travel within New Zealand apart from Flight Centre travel agents have slowly disappeared.

Re-read what I said, I specifically included OTAs. The like of Expedia and Webjet are travel agents, and the OTAs + FCTG dominate this market. The likes of Vanuatu and Fiji are very rarely sold unbundled, customers book a "package" involving their flights and accommodation in one transaction be it online or through a shop front.
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:00 pm

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 144):
Hence my initial point, Qantas' position can almost be summarised as "it is so dangerous we're not going to stop anyone landing there".

Can or should Qantas try to stop anyone flying there? Isn't a matter of personal choice?

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:36 pm

Quoting mariner (Reply 145):
Can or should Qantas try to stop anyone flying there? Isn't a matter of personal choice?

Depends on the corporate risk associated with selling tickets to an detestation, should something thing happen.

It probably wouldn't be an very good look for Qantas in the Aussie, should say an plane goes off the runway in Port Vila with an large amount of Australians onboard who we're sold tickets by Qantas, when they knew there was an safety issue with the runway.
 
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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:16 pm

Quoting zkncj (Reply 146):
Depends on the corporate risk associated with selling tickets to an detestation, should something thing happen.

That suggests that Flight Centre, say, would be liable if they had sold the ticket, which, I think, is a bit of a stretch.

The airport isn't closed, it is open for business and one Australian airline is still flying there, as well as the national airline and several other airlines.

I'm no lawyer but I have been quite litigious in my life and have never lost a case, either as plaintiff or defendant. As such, it remains my choice if I want to go and if "something happened" then - I would think - any liability would attach to the airline that flew me there.

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

Tue Jan 26, 2016 10:24 pm

Quoting ZuluAlpha (Reply 138):
QF6601 did a flyover up the coast then over the harbour today.

I was at North Sydney at the time it did the tight 180 degree turn and the whale was flying so slow I thought it was going to just drop out of the sky! Then it made a very tight left hand turn to come back and I swear it looked as if the 180 degree turn was completed in less than a 1km radius and done in a matter of seconds... Amazing! After another loop it did a decent looking climb towards the North East with black smoke coming out of the holes...

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RE: Australian Aviation Thread Part 135

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