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Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:19 pm

W8 has registered its eighth 763F on January 4. A decade ago that same aircraft was already registered and operated from Canada by Zoom after a decade with KL.


http://www.planespotters.net/airfram.../767/26263/C-GCIJ-Cargojet-Airways


CJT will again operate cargo flights for LOT between WAW and JFK.

http://aircargoworld.com/cargojet-re...ews-winter-freighter-lease-to-lot/
 
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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:31 pm

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Thread starter):

Is there really so much demand for a direct cargo flight to Warsaw? I understand that there is a very large polish population in NYC but is it really needed.
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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:42 pm

I Wonder if this is the white tale I saw yesterday at YHM? I love seeing them getting all these 767. I still am surprised they haven't gotten a few large
aircraft for the YHM to YYC and YHM to YWG flights.
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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:58 pm

Quoting Lesfalls (Reply 1):
Is there really so much demand for a direct cargo flight to Warsaw? I understand that there is a very large polish population in NYC but is it really needed.

Read this report that I have linked in another thread last year. It's probably for the same reason and the same frequency.

http://air.logistics-business-review...t-flights-to-us-and-canada-4495566

LOT Cargo Launched WAW-JFK-WAW Route (by SpaceshipDC10 Jan 24 2015 in Civil Aviation)

Quoting fly_yhm (Reply 2):
I Wonder if this is the white tale I saw yesterday at YHM?

Could be this one: http://flic.kr/p/BAifPa

Quoting fly_yhm (Reply 2):
I still am surprised they haven't gotten a few large aircraft for the YHM to YYC and YHM to YWG flights.

You mean larger to lift more on one flight? Is it really worth it to introduce another type with everything it involves, especially since they are still in the red?

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Q2 http://aircargoworld.com/cargojet-slips-in-second-quarter/
 
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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:44 am

I wonder what their plans are to replace their 8-strong 722F fleet?

I was surprised that they returned 2 762Fs to lessors while retaining the 722F fleet. Perhaps the lease rates on those 2 762Fs were too high.

Presumably, the lower fuel prices have extended the life of the 722F fleet somewhat.
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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:25 am

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 4):
I was surprised that they returned 2 762Fs to lessors while retaining the 722F fleet. Perhaps the lease rates on those 2 762Fs were too high.

Perhaps, but perhaps it's something else. Read the last paragraph from that report: http://cargofacts.com/and-still-more-767-freighters-for-cargojet/
 
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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:40 am

Amazon has a few warehouses in Poland. Weren't they interested in B767 operations?
 
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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:24 pm

Don't forget, that the B-727's are owned - they don't cost them much, even if parked or only used lightly. In the end CargoJet will have only B-757-200F and B-767-300F.
 
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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:35 am

Quoting yyz717 (Reply 4):
I was surprised that they returned 2 762Fs to lessors while retaining the 722F fleet. Perhaps the lease rates on those 2 762Fs were too high.

My understanding is that all remaining 762F will be returned to CAM in short order, perhaps even all this quarter and be replaced by newly acquired/leased 763F.
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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:49 pm

Quoting Steelhead (Reply 7):
Don't forget, that the B-727's are owned - they don't cost them much, even if parked or only used lightly. In the end

It seems four have been active during the last few days.
 
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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:40 am

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 3):
You mean larger to lift more on one flight? Is it really worth it to introduce another type with everything it involves, especially since they are still in the red?

I mean drop the one flight and just operate with a singe MD-11 or 777 freighter.
The YHM-YWG flights at times leave 10-15 mins apart.
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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:50 am

It was delivered yesterday and flown TLV-CGN before performing flight W8 1894 CGN-YHM.

http://www.flightradar24.com/reg/c-gcij
 
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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:59 am

Will check it out later today at YHM.

Interesting to see that today CargoJet is flying a B-767-300 to Roswell (via Buffalo). Could it be the same aircraft?


CJT1894 B763 Cologne Bonn (EDDK / CGN) 01:37a CET 02:52a EST




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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:41 am

Quoting Steelhead (Reply 12):
Could it be the same aircraft?

Seems so: http://www.flightradar24.com/CJT991/8989706
 
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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:15 pm

Yes, C-GCIJ is one the way from BUF to ROW
 
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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:41 pm

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Thread starter):
A decade ago that same aircraft was already registered and operated from Canada by Zoom after a decade with KL.

...and by Lot itself as well, registered SP-LPG.
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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:44 pm

TLV doesn't have a paint hall?
 
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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:55 am

Quoting blueflyer (Reply 16):
TLV doesn't have a paint hall?

I don't get your point. What reply are you referring to?
 
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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:01 am

Quoting hkcanadaexpat (Reply 8):
My understanding is that all remaining 762F will be returned to CAM in short order, perhaps even all this quarter

So they can be used on the Aerosmith contract by ABX and ATN.  
 
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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:11 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 17):
I don't get your point. What reply are you referring to?

I think the question is: why does it need to go to ROW for painting when it could have been painted in TLV where the conversion was taking place? I, for one, assume that TLV has a paint hangar as i'm pretty sure the Air Canada Rouge frames come back painted after conversion. But i could be wrong.
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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:36 am

 
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RE: Cargojet 8th B767-300(F) + LOT Cargo Flights

Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:22 am

Quoting blueflyer (Reply 16):
TLV doesn't have a paint hall?

The new owner and/or operator is allowed to have it painted wherever, by whom, when and for how much $$ it wants to. There are a million possibilities as to why they might want to send it to Dean Baldwin: price, schedule, past relationship, quality of work, value proposition, US location. Schedule probably weighed heavily.

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