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WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:14 pm

C-GOGN, operating YEG-OGG (WestJet's first ever flight to Hawaii using their own metal) diverts to YYC...

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/ws1884/



[Edited 2016-01-10 09:20:11]
 
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:01 pm

Quoting N111MD (Thread starter):
(WestJet's first ever flight to Hawaii using their own metal)

Pardon?
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:13 pm

Quoting threepoint (Reply 1):
Pardon?

Its the inaugural flight to Hawaii for THEIR OWN 767's. This is the first time they've flown 767's to HI (they've flown 737's for years), but they wet leased some 767's earlier this year for the route.
http://worldairlinenews.com/2016/01/...7-300-scheduled-service-to-hawaii/

[Edited 2016-01-10 10:31:47]
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:24 pm

Quoting N111MD (Thread starter):
C-GOGN, operating YEG-OGG (WestJet's first ever flight to Hawaii using their own metal) diverts to YYC...

WestJet has been flying its own metal to Hawaii for years.



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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:43 pm

Quoting N111MD (Thread starter):
C-GOGN, operating YEG-OGG (WestJet's first ever flight to Hawaii using their own metal) diverts to YYC

Using their first B763 would be more accurate, WS has used their own metal to Hawaii for years!
 
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:49 pm

Correction: "WestJet's first ever flight to Hawaii using their own 767"
 
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:29 pm

It appears C-FOGJ will be continuing the flight to OGG.
 
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:46 pm

And now, flightradar24 shows C-FOGJ is taxiing at YYC as WS1884 to OGG. So, it looks like a change of metal, and then getting underway again.
 
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:04 am

Quoting N111MD (Reply 5):
Correction: "WestJet's first ever flight to Hawaii using their own 767"

Or (I assume) the first WS flight from YEG to Hawaii using their own metal? WS did operate the 737-700 YYC-HNL for a year or two but it had payload penalties and wasn't economic so they then began wet-leasing 757s from Thomas Cook for the seasonal YYC/YEG-Hawaii routes. Not sure if they operated the 737-700 nonstop YEG-HNL.
 
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Mon Jan 11, 2016 4:40 am

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 8):

Quoting N111MD (Reply 5):
Correction: "WestJet's first ever flight to Hawaii using their own 767"

Or (I assume) the first WS flight from YEG to Hawaii using their own metal? WS did operate the 737-700 YYC-HNL for a year or two but it had payload penalties and wasn't economic so they then began wet-leasing 757s from Thomas Cook for the seasonal YYC/YEG-Hawaii routes. Not sure if they operated the 737-700 nonstop YEG-HNL.

I believe they did operate from YEG to Hawaii with the 737s the same year. Only operated one winter sked and then the wet lease started the following year with North American. The 5 year contract started with Thomas Cook the following year.
 
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:19 am

Quoting nikeson13 (Reply 2):
Its the inaugural flight to Hawaii for THEIR OWN 767's. This is the first time they've flown 767's to HI (they've flown 737's for years), but they wet leased some 767's earlier this year for the route.

Thank you, I am well aware of this, having used WS' product many times. It was not clear the OP understood the distinction, but all is well now.
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:26 am

Is anyone besides me wondering why the plane diverted or is everyone mainly here so they can display their impressive WestJet knowledge and correct the OP's obvious mistake?
 
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:09 am

Quoting ASFlyer (Reply 11):

Is anyone besides me wondering why the plane diverted

Some brief searching around on twitter didn't come up with much. One person said mechanical, and another said the particular plane wasn't properly ETOPS certified, and so was turned back. So for now, there's nothing but rumours and hearsay.
 
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Mon Jan 11, 2016 3:58 pm

Quoting aerolimani (Reply 12):

Quoting ASFlyer (Reply 11):

Is anyone besides me wondering why the plane diverted

Some brief searching around on twitter didn't come up with much. One person said mechanical, and another said the particular plane wasn't properly ETOPS certified, and so was turned back. So for now, there's nothing but rumours and hearsay.

Maintenance issue, the aircraft are certified for ETOPs....
 
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:22 pm

Gotta be frustrating for WS! First the delay in getting the planes registered in Canada due to some improper/incomplete paperwork from Qantas (the original owners), then having to temporarily lease lift from OMNI, as ETOPS certification wasn't ready when the flights were to be on the new metal....now a MX issue on the inaugural YEG flight.

UGH! Thinking back to 1996, when WS started with 732's, it seems like a bit of deja vu! If i remember correctly, they had headaches on the (sometimes VERY) used equipment.... and if I remember, a temporary grounding!

Luckily, that came to pass, as I am sure the hiccups with the 763's will also. I do hope I have an opportunity to fly on the WS 763's at some point!
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:30 pm

From another forum....

"Diverted due to an indicator light relating to heat in the flight deck."

C-GOGN is currently operating WS1850 YYC-OGG, so must have been an easy fix.

[Edited 2016-01-11 11:31:39]
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:48 pm

Quoting rikkus67 (Reply 14):
Thinking back to 1996, when WS started with 732's, it seems like a bit of deja vu! If i remember correctly, they had headaches on the (sometimes VERY) used equipment.... and if I remember, a temporary grounding!

At the time of the grounding which lasted for about 2 weeks in September 1996 the entire WS fleet was 4 737-200s, all between 24 and 27 years old. Three were original Pacific Western aircraft, disposed of by PWA years earlier. A couple had already had about 8 operators.
 
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:26 pm

Quoting aerolimani (Reply 12):
One person said mechanical, and another said the particular plane wasn't properly ETOPS certified,

No, see here: http://atwonline.com/airframes/westj...s-767s-flies-own-widebodies-hawaii
 
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:00 am

The aircraft would not have departed if it was not ETOPS certified. Don't be crazy.

There is a big difference between being certified, and compliant. There are many failure/degrades that could occur prior to reaching the ETOPS boundary that would prevent the flight from continuing.

You need normal hydraulics, electrics, de/anti-icing. You can have degraded comms, nav, but to a point. There's quite a few things you can have go u/s.

You could also have a situation where you depart and despite the aircraft being okay going, the failure may prevent dispatching out of the out-station. Ie: no parts, minimal maintenance. This cud have been the case and they decided to pop into YYC where they had parts etc to allow it to come home once it got to where it was going.

To suggest it was not ETOPS certified is silly.

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[Edited 2016-01-11 16:04:57]
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:25 am

Well what did they expect? QF got rid of them for a reason.
These are old planes. To think they can run like a swiss watch is unrealistic.
 
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Tue Jan 12, 2016 12:26 am

Quoting sixtyseven (Reply 18):
The aircraft would not have departed if it was not ETOPS certified. Don't be crazy.

It's happened before. Obviously not likely with the very small WS 763 fleet.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/american-ai...flight-certified/story?id=33725599
AA Flies Non-ETOPS Equipment To HI (by aa777lvr Sep 11 2015 in Civil Aviation)
 
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:06 am

WestJet's status as a low-cost airline may soon change now that they've abandoned their one-type strategy. Adding their Encore/Dash subsidiary and now expecting heavy overseas utilization of a rather old fleet of '67s certainly hasn't simplified their operation.
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:02 pm

Today the same flight operated again by a 738 diverted to YVR.

http://www.flightradar24.com/WJA1884/8849c96
 
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RE: WestJet Flight 1884 Diverts To Calgary

Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:02 am

Quoting SpaceshipDC10 (Reply 22):

Today the same flight operated again by a 738 diverted to YVR.

http://www.flightradar24.com/WJA1884/8849c96



Tech stop for fuel, not a diversion...

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