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737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:25 am

Here is a 737-400 painted in an exact copy of UAL Blue Tulip livery. And it has been that way since 2008. How were they able to get away with this? And what was the purpose of using UA livery?

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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:59 am

I doubt it. United NEVER fly 737-400. They probably similar paint scheme United's paint. I don't know why they do that copycat.


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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:38 am

 
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:40 am

It looks like the aircraft was flying in Dubai with the scheme first and then bounced around to several Eastern European airlines all of which seam to be, at best, second tier carriers. I assume UA feels like the effort to get them to change it just isn't worth it; and that's assuming they're even aware the aircraft exists. Beyond all that though I'm not sure how much legal precedence UA would have anyway; it's not like they've copied the UA logo or have used the name. It is also a retired livery.
 
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:10 am

Quoting UA444 (Thread starter):
exact copy of UAL Blue Tulip livery

How is that an "exact copy" of anything at UA??
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:11 am

Looks like a bad Photoshop job.
 
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:25 am

Quoting LAX772LR (Reply 4):

Maybe, because, you know it's the exact same livery. Down to the colors, the stripes, everything.  
 
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:26 am

Quoting DolphinAir747 (Reply 5):

It is real.
 
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 2:55 am

Sort of reminds me of Blue Bird Aviation (Kenya). They took some of Eastern Australia's old Dash 8-100s still in the Basic Qantaslink livery sans kangaroo. They decided they liked the livery so much they painted it across the whole fleet along with an Austrian inspired swoosh. They have a fair number of Q400s in the scheme but not one has ever operated down under they're all either ex SAS or Augsburg.

Also they painted a Fokker 50 which has never been painted in Qantaslink colours.


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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:29 am

Quoting vhqpa (Reply 8):
Sort of reminds me of Blue Bird Aviation (Kenya).

Another example of this phenomenon:

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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:32 am

Quoting simairlinenet (Reply 9):

I think that one would be a podium finisher for ugliest livery
 
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:37 am

Quoting UA444 (Reply 6):
Maybe, because, you know it's the exact same livery.

I'm starting to believe that you might not understand what "exact same" actually means... if that's the case.  

And even then, going back to your original post: exactly what do you expect UA to do... sue them? For what action, under what law, and in what jurisdiction-- Kyrgyzstan? lol
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 3:51 am

UA never had any 737-400s, and the aircraft never had a prior history with UA.

I can only assume copycat, and several airlines are doing it!

Take Lucky Air for example! A double whammy! They're "Lucky" they're not getting sued!   

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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:00 am

Quoting Boeing778X (Reply 12):
They're "Lucky" they're not getting sued!

Why?

If they're based/operate in a jurisdiction doesn't give a damn about IP protection, and they don't conduct significant commerce in a locale that does... then what do they have to fear?
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:09 am

So much fail in this thread of people actually looking at the origins of some of these hybrid liveries. Immediately jumping to OMG IT IS A COPY, SUE THEM! Eeesh
 
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:37 am

Quoting LAX772LR (Reply 13):
Why?

If they're based/operate in a jurisdiction doesn't give a damn about IP protection, and they don't conduct significant commerce in a locale that does

Precisely. Emphasis on the "Lucky."

I see a Boeing Sunset livery and British Airways styled tail in there!

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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 4:37 am

Quoting LAX772LR (Reply 13):
Why?

Quotes around "lucky" and the  Wow! indicate Boeing778X is making a joke. Quit being obtuse.
 
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:01 am

You guys think those are bad rip-offs? This one takes the cake!


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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:11 am

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 17):
You guys think those are bad rip-offs? This one takes the cake!

That's not even an ATTEMPT at hiding it!    You're right! That's pretty bad!

Anything as bad as that?
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:56 am

Quoting adamblang (Reply 16):
Quotes around "lucky" and the Wow! indicate Boeing778X is making a joke. Quit being obtuse.

Chill out.

I wasn't going to sit there and presume he was joking or not, especially since some posters seemingly don't realize that the threat of an infringement suit is meaningless in a situation like this.
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 6:03 am

Quoting LAX772LR (Reply 19):
I wasn't going to sit there and presume he was joking or not, especially since some posters seemingly don't realize that the threat of an infringement suit is meaningless in a situation like this.

China is the only country I know of where some Joe can make an "Apple Store" that looks like a "7-Eleven, and get away with it!"

Trust me, I know. Look up "Chinese Knockoffs" on Google Images. You won't be disappointed!

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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:31 am

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 17):
You guys think those are bad rip-offs? This one takes the cake!

Looks like half Gulfair & half TNT Express  Wow!
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 12:04 pm

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 14):

So much fail in this thread of people actually looking at the origins of some of these hybrid liveries. Immediately jumping to OMG IT IS A COPY, SUE THEM! Eeesh

There's a difference between a hybrid scheme and a blatant ripoff. As pointed out, UA never flew the 737-400, so it's clear that the airline copied United's rising blue livery. Same thing with the "Regional Paraguaya" example.

Quoting simairlinenet (Reply 9):

Another example of this phenomenon:


That was just a one-off hybrid livery because the aircraft had belonged to northwest beforehand. No other aircraft were painted in the scheme.
 
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:35 pm

Another cute example is Phuket Air of Thailand. They got one or more former Metrojet (US Airways LCC) 737-200s and loved the red/grey colours. So when they received YS-11s, they also used these colours even while Metrojet didn't have anything to do with YS-11s. Piedmont had them though but they were long gone before they even merged with USAir, different airframes.
MetroJet also had nothing to do with the Russian airline which unfortunately lost an A-321 above Egypt.

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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 1:56 pm

Quoting vhqpa (Reply 8):
Sort of reminds me of Blue Bird Aviation (Kenya).

It looks more like Austrian with the blue engines and shadow logo under the cockpit.
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:34 pm

What I'm surprised hasn't been acknowledged yet is how often these lower-tier carriers acquire their aircraft second-hand -- aircraft that often wear the basic livery of its previous operator, with logos and titles painted out -- and don't have the resources to fully repaint the aircraft.

I usually call these "Second-hand hybrid liveries" since the basic scheme is clearly that of a more prominent carrier, with the new operator's logos and titles slapped on.

In the case of the UA-based livery that started this thread, it looks like Eastok has operated several 737 variants. Likely, one of these was a retired UA aircraft that they acquired second-hand.

In fact, the search link that AdamBlang posted shows that there are some 733s that Eastok once operated in that same basic UA-style livery, and UA did indeed once have 733s in that livery. Chances are, they acquired that former UA 733, liked the livery, and had it applied to other aircraft as they acquired it.

This happens all the time. I mean, there are still Saab 340s flying around in faded pink ex-NW liveries, with the titles of their new operators on them.
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:17 pm

Maybe the lucky Air livery could have been the new IB//IAG livery 

Whilst red to yellow ratio is a little wrong (maybe lose the red belly- grey instead). It looks cool.

As for the Blue Bird livery, wow how unimaginative.
 
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:30 pm

Quoting JBo (Reply 25):
In fact, the search link that AdamBlang posted shows that there are some 733s that Eastok once operated in that same basic UA-style livery, and UA did indeed once have 733s in that livery. Chances are, they acquired that former UA 733, liked the livery, and had it applied to other aircraft as they acquired it.

None of the 733s they had were ex-UA, and not only that, UA never had 734s.
 
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 7:44 pm

I saw two Lucky Air B737-700 at Kemble in 2014.

They did not look very lucky then.  
 
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 9:32 pm

Quoting Boeing778X (Reply 18):
Anything as bad as that?

There is a picture here on A.net of a 737 in what is an exact copy of the United livery, but with "Continental" titles. I have no clue why United doesn't take that company to court as it is more than obvious that this is a copy.


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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:06 pm

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 29):
There is a picture here on A.net of a 737 in what is an exact copy of the United livery, but with "Continental" titles. I have no clue why United doesn't take that company to court as it is more than obvious that this is a copy.

  

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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:24 pm

Quoting JBo (Reply 25):
What I'm surprised hasn't been acknowledged yet is how often these lower-tier carriers acquire their aircraft second-hand -- aircraft that often wear the basic livery of its previous operator, with logos and titles painted out -- and don't have the resources to fully repaint the aircraft.

Iraq Air has an ex-UA 737-300 floating around with the same fuselage paint scheme with only the tail painted solid blue. The US flag is still visible near the rear door so it obviously needed a few more coats of paint to completely cover it. It worked out great one time because, while working tower, I was able to tell the crew of UA977 (777) to "give way to a company 737" while taxiing at DXB.

Iraq Air also has an ex-Air Tran 737 in the region that still has the "a" logo on the tail. They didn't even try to hide the previous owner!
 
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 10:40 pm

Quoting AviationAddict (Reply 10):
I think that one would be a podium finisher for ugliest livery

Really? I love it!

It sticks out... ain't nobody gonna mistake that carrier for anyone else, even NW.  
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:48 pm

Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 29):
There is a picture here on A.net of a 737 in what is an exact copy of the United livery, but with "Continental" titles. I have no clue why United doesn't take that company to court as it is more than obvious that this is a copy.


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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Fri Jan 15, 2016 11:54 pm

Soren....You deserve a medal!

Oh no... Now you've just set OP off the deep end.
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Sat Jan 16, 2016 12:43 am

Quoting jetblastdubai (Reply 31):

Iraq Air also has an ex-Air Tran 737 in the region that still has the "a" logo on the tail. They didn't even try to hide the previous owner!

Seeing that one in Beirut a few years ago for the first time REALLY threw me off. I think it's been repainted now though.
 
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:30 am

This really peaked my curiosity, so I started looking at the history of this bird.

She flew as EY-538 for East Air (EG) an outfit out of Tajikistan, also in the Rising Blue livery.


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I'm not exactly sure why they're painting aircraft into rising blue. My original theory was that they were doing it to match some ex-UA birds they had picked up, but I don't see any evidence of EG having ever flown any ex-UA aircraft.

Good for them though! At least the tulip scheme almost lives on somewhere  
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RE: 737-400 In United Livery

Sat Jan 16, 2016 5:48 am

Quoting FlyHossD (Reply 34):
Soren....You deserve a medal!

Oh no... Now you've just set OP off the deep end.

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